Glad no filthy south americans will be winning it now. I'm fine with whoever wins it out of the remaining 3.

You're not exactly qualified to comment on the topic of filthiness.

nazi much? Our naturally feed meat and organic vegetables would have saved you from becoming a giant ball of fat and shit lawl, maybe you could even enjoy a sport like, football maybe, and feeling healthy. Keep dreaming that youre a smart ass and that your geographical position is a good one in the upcoming worsening of the financial situation that already hit jackpot at Greece. When you have no food or water, internet and quake means shit. South America is the last paradise Bush and Moon bought giants lands close to here. Food and water is what matters at the end. Food is not problem, you could probably hibernate for years with all the excess of fat that you have acumulated lawl. Is eating helping you forget your imposibility to meet womens?

Im not the type of person to bash people for being fat, just showing how easy is to find some reason to hate, hater.

Your people live in the dirt and you are a disgrace to the human race (because you look like us, not because you are human or anything.)

I love cleaning dirt its awesome

Oh wow there's 1 or 2 rich people, I'm so shocked.

Fit healthy people, beautiful beaches and water. There are some things money cant buy, referees not being a good example tho.

http://www.abep.nepo.unicamp.br/encontro2006/...06_203.pdf

oh and just for the record. NOW you are being trolled, cause you kept asking for it.

When did i say there were no Liam sized guys here? But they dont go to beaches so the fact reamins dude, stop trolling :p lalalala

"Uruguay
Over half of the adult population in Uruguay is obese or overweight (FAO 1999,
Curto et al 2004). Approximately 18% of the population aged 18 and older is obese and
almost 36% overweight (Curto et al 2004)."

not only are you poor but you're also fat. tough.

Not as fat as us. We win.

LMAO@Stats

Probably European tourists.

Yeah the rest of us is riding horses and firing arrows hahaha

That girl is sooo hot!

Youre welcome to paradise, theres enough for everyone and the huge amounts of Vit D they absorb thanks to the sun raise their hormone levels and makes them pretty horny too. Meanwhile Liam believes hes smart eating burgers and farting like a pig while we have raves on the beach with hot chiks and good quality stuff, lawl.

Don't have a lot of books in Uruguay huh

agree. So much better than last world cup where finals were between FAGS and FAGS

Glad those cheats are out. Bunch of whiny little bitches.

Actually they're not out - playing for 3rd now, which if they managed to win would be a massive achievement none the less.

Yeah, they won't tho ... regardless of who'll lose tomorrow.

don't you find it pretty ironic if Germany and Netherlands would play the final in this South African world cup?

both countries having colonised Africa (including SA).. also both of them very racist in the past. it's like "yo we're back!" :D

Would have been better with Portugal/Belgium/England/Netherlands top4 :DDDDDDDDD

Germany barely had any colonies though. They failed compared to other countries. :,(

Yeah English and French were best at African colonization by far.

And lets not forget their biggest crime in exploration, the Country-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named.

The British were the best globally!

Strangely enough Germany and the Netherlands is going to have huge support in SA, since most of the white and coloured peoples ancestors were from these countries. Even me.

shitty team and netherlands another shitty team.

At least they played for more than the first 20 minutes of the game.

brazil dominated the first half and the beginning of the second till felipe melo(the dutch player) scored the goal for netherlands.

Wow, you're actually blind.

sorry buddy i like you but watch the match once again, the only thing netherlands did was through balls onto robben and wait brazil attack(which was obviously a waste of time, when brazil had the ball brazil was just passing the ball and involving the opponent till they open a gate to brazil score another goal etc etc, like we always did till the world cup)

At least they played for more than the first 20 minutes of the game.

So he was correct ;)

sorry, didnt get the point

Yeah, it was only Melo's fault, that Brazil played boring as hell the whole tourney.

The better team in that game won. Simple as that.

hahaha the better team won, look at uruguay vs netherlands, uruguay scored twice against them.. even tho.. try to remember when netherlands had that "chance"(for me it wasnt a chance, it was clearly goal) and lost the "chance" with 3 strikers against juan and julio cesar. yes the "best" team won, we lost our heart during that game, the team played differently its funny.. just like one or two games can decide the world cup but it doesnt mean that brazil is a shitty team like this nethersuckslands divers etc. van bommel today was funny.. more wood's face than any other player i ever seen ahahaha fuck himself too :)

Dude, Brazil played utter shit. The whole tourney.

When you stop playing, 'cause your 1 in the lead, you have a shitty team.

no, our coach lost his mind i dont understand, he replaced elano with daniel alves(a fullback right), you can do it once or twice but like 5 games in a row is ridiculous.

felipe melo lost his mind, no HE MADE THE PASS to robinho to score 1x0 brazil against netherlands. suddenly is he a shitty player? im sorry dude you sucks.

best defense in the tournament, luis fabiano = 3 games 3 goals
kaka = 3 games 3 assistances

its simply like that.. when you have a coach that looses his mind during the game, the players look at him and they want to feel confidence and this fucking coach didnt pass it to the players.

once again you dont understand football, this is the same team who won the confederations cup, the america cup and top1 in the qualifiers. no this is not a shitty team dont through shit in the air mash you DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. hahaha

Elano was injured wasn't he and Ramires suspended?

ramires wasnt suspended he was on the bench, no dunga just sucked unfortunately but he won everything before with this same team.. the team is just one of the best we had as well.. dunno why people like to make ceremony innit these are facts nobody cant take it away.

typical gipsy excuses.

They played good, they just didn't "play" much if you follow.

After Stekelunburg pulled of that save, Brazil didn't threaten once. And that was in the 30th minute or so?

Yup, the next chance they had was Kaka firing wired (well covered by defender and keeper) at like 70 mins?

anyway i dont know where to reply so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm1IZiVSQw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftLKduSIIqA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDis3TZdw_s

im sorry i cant find any video of manoel tobias :( i think it was old enough to anybody cares about futsal in brazil(i mean, the media :))

all we did was passing and controlling the game till they open a path to our team strikes and finishes the match like the team aways did since dunga started coaching the squad? you must watch the whoke pack from the beginning till the end.

And they failed and got owned.
Sneijder said before the match that Cesar weakness was crosspasses into the box and so he made those passes with a lot of pleasure.
You can blame Melo, but Cesar missed the ball before it hit Melo's head. So if Melo didnt hit the ball it would end up in the goal too.

bb.

when he leaves the goal he says: ITS MINE(in portuguese), no it was melo`s fault, next...

It was the teams fault.

clearly melo`s one... next...

Delusional.

all these brazilians are obviously suffereing from aids sideffects. it was clear as day that Julio Cezar actually hit Melo from behind and screwed up his defensive header. all while failing to catch the ball at the same time.

a supposed world class goalkeeper that can't jump higher with his hands than a player with his head deserves to get a goal. not to mention that he was the one coming from behind and Melo couldn't see him so it's 100% Cezar's fault.

Maybe so, but he still missed the ball badly while he could've hit it. Despite Melo being there.

the boy is a hero, but yeah i understand your pointview

I know another shitty team.

wait till tomorrow (here is 8:00 pm) to tell me :)

what? why? all shitty teams are already out?

:) argentina doesnt have a team, argentina has maradona which is a puppet and their little kids such as messi(tell me, what he did in this world cup? at least kaka made at least 3 or 4 assistances) and the little super star tevez.

Right, that is Kaka's standard. Give like 3-4 assistances. Well done.

Messi: 4 Assistances
Kaka: 3

Btw: Is Cacau still our star?

messi 4? WHEN? ..please come on...

One direct, three indirect (after his actions/shots the other Argentine players scored). He was also the best passer in the Argentine team. The reason he didn't shine like he usually does is because he was left in midfield to distribute the ball more. Kaka didn't do much more than run forward with the ball a few times and try a through pass, Messi was actually the brain of almost every offensive action Argentina undertook. Alongside Mascherano, the most important player in that team, easily.

"One direct, three indirect (after his actions/shots the other Argentine players scored)."

god`s sake, get your ass back to baseball and learn football before release shit comments like that. not even going to read the rest you said.

you'Re just raged that you trying to make fun of Germany kinda backfired.
Including whom you predicted to be our star.

lmao@agu

you damn asked your opinion? im not even raged hahaha i just dont like when someone thinking that know something about football comes up with some stupidity, like you actually did a couple of times.. at least i have to admit, özil is a good player yeah.

so you are saying you hate yourself?

you got 1 good point in a million of bullshit you always post and you are proud of it? ask cypher if he`s proud too.

lol, one point. You haven't made a single correct prediction about our team...
Looks like your counting is about as good as your knowledge of the German team.

Your problem is, in this discussion and others as well, that you know more about certain topics involving foreign countries than your average countrymen. You probably even speak better English. That leads you to assume that you know more about the topic than the people from the country that is discussed. It also leads you to assume your English is great.
You are wrong in both cases, and is the reason why everyone here thinks you are an idiot and constantly makes fun of you.

lmao@agu

the point is that you always mess up when i come up with a tough argument, like this post you posted. yes you pointed out one good argument about özil in the middle of many bullshit you posted and so what? you got annoyed! hahahahaha dont even know why im replying. what do you do for living becks? posting and trolling on esr as a job? i mean now i have time to visit this website and fuck the trollers but its just a matter of time to university calls me back and.. unfortunately i have a life. lets see whats going to happen between spain and germany this evening, im not even cheering for spain but just because you`re german nazi i`d cheer for spain to see your silly face in here posting shit as everyday on esr but at this time even more silly.

next reply he`s going to make: bad english balblabla, doesnt know about football blablalba, i never got a pussycat balblabla

hahahahahahahahahahaha

I posted I wouldn't bet on cacau starting, while he was your star player. Point for me.

I mentioned Özil, Schweinsteiger, Podolski, Kroos all are more talented than Cacau. Point for me.

You said this German team is the worst you have ever seen. LMFAO.


The only tough thing about your argument is that it is tough to belive someone could be as wrong as you are. Which is why I usually stop replying to your idiotitc "HAHGAHAHAHA spam HAHAHAS" posts.
They make you look dumb all by themselves.

by the way.. what happened to the serbian game? wasnt it 1x0 to serbia? hum.. i wonder whats going to happen when germany plays against spain. i still keep my word for me is one of the worst except for sawezaeegentiger and podolski. note: i didnt expect and also the whole world that klose who scored like 3 goals in the last season would be one of the most important players in this world cup.

its easier after all that happened you guys start to cry about what i posted. imagine the opposite.. everything to germany had ruined and to brazil hadnt. but i havent even complained about that and the only surprise is this ozil you mentioned and whatever re-read what i typed over there a million times.

a-hi my name is ronaldo, what do i do for living?
i play football
b-hi my name is anton, what do i do for living?
i play quake series
c-hi my name is bEcKsSs, what do i do for living?
i troll on esr


after this joke they are coming up with trolls, aids and bad-english

Yes, we lost to Serbia.

That doesn't make any of your posts correct.
You are just an idiot who thinks he knows everything.

The difference between us is that I never claimed to know about football all around the world. I just said that I know more about German football than you do.

You are just another idiot who thinks too much of himself, without anything to back it up.

INsteada you desperately try to attack me personally by trying to put my nation's team down and by attacking me personally.

Just look at the reality: Everyone is constantly making fun of you and your opinion about yourself.
And you clearly show that you are incapable of understading why that is.

It's a bit sad really :(

yes we lost to serbia blalbalalblablalbalbla

aids blablablalba
bad-english blalbalbalblabla
i got a psycho problem blalbalblabla
i dont do anything in my life and i troll on esr blablalbalblabla



hahahahaha hail the nazis the pure race

I haven't mentioned the aids word to you once.
I work as an engineer, as I have written on this site several times.
The only thing that could be called a "psycho" is some ignorant user called _agu. I wouldn't call it a problem though.

You English is simply not good. That alone is no ptoblem, but your insisting that you English is good is idiotic. You need to know your flaws to improve.

Will stop replying to you once more as your posts have decayed into idiotic drivel again.

blalbalbalbalblablablal hahahaha

What about Müller?

... aaaand Lahm, Friedrich, Khedira? World class defense.

ah yeah man im really surprised as well about müller, tactically i think he`s doing perfect. i can admit when im wrong, can this other guy up there too? no i dont think so hahahaha

How can anyone be surprised by Muller?

Do you not get CL matches/highlights wherever it is you are located?

CL?

Champions League.

ah i have watched but dunno... i was more interested in man united and inter

seriously, keep watching your gipsy league and leave football discussion to people who know... well anything really.

and buy our players .. and they are going to be the top1 in your league, yes i`ll do it, dont worry about

ah by the way.. the most solid defense is still the brazilian one, try to look at the statistics :D but .. to you win you need a complete team right? :(

Switzerland.

omg dude look at the video i just watched:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHmUCgxD7bk&am...r_embedded

Can't believe he wasted all that water, his little brother will have to walk a few miles to the pump now.

hahahahahaha

Oh and for the record, I believe the odds are slightly in Spain's favor. And I have no problem if we go out in this round. We did very well and let a lot of other teams with big names behind us.

Teams whose fans were so confident :P

HAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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BZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZ
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hey , where is your OZIL legend? ah i thought busquets fucked his ass!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

BZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZ
BZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZBZZZZZ

HAIL THE NAZIIIIISS

LOL

yes, and those comments are the reason everyone thinks you are retarded :)

those who think i am retarded are the same ones who think are trollers?

I'm not sure, but weren't you saying that you weren't raged and frustated?

lol

not really, next world cup: brazil, my hometown: recife, one of the world cup venues :)

That's cool indeed!

ah by the way, who asked your opinion? hahahahaha

i did

lmao@agu

proud to be german? no you are from switzerland and your german is much uglier than his.

proud to be using the internet

whatever swiss-german hahahah

onoz, racism!

im not racist, your country is divided in 3 parts and you guys have 4 official languages: german, french, italian and romance.

i have met people from all these "parts" of switzerland and to be honest none of them were at least patriots. im not the european "stylish" who thinks i can control the world because im the monarch, this is you not me.

well we are controling the world, whats your point?

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well we are controling the world, whats your point?

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah



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i did

lmao@agu
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proud to be german? no you are from switzerland and your german is much uglier than his.
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proud to be using the internet
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whatever swiss-german hahahah
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onoz, racism!
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im not racist, your country is divided in 3 parts and you guys have 4 official languages: german, french, italian and romance.

i have met people from all these "parts" of switzerland and to be honest none of them were at least patriots. im not the european "stylish" who thinks i can control the world because im the monarch, this is you not me.
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well we are controling the world, whats your point?
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well we are controling the world, whats your point?

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah



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LOLOLO copy paste makes perfect sense

wow this troll is a truly troll as i see...
well swiss german-part is controlling the world baby yes they are! oooooooh yeaaaaah

yeah correct

yeah man, fucking "a"

You guys speak portugese, because they owned your balls.

we speak portuguese but they also nominated once rio de janeiro as the portuguese empire capital, isnt it funny?

learn history, its good for you.

Hey, that is a very good point. Never thought about it.

You're talking to becks. He thinks he knows everything about everything.

just your prejudiced opinion.

If you had put in the effort to actually form an objective opinion you would have noticed that I very often ignore topics where I am certain I know less that the actual person, or only want to discuss a singular aspect.

But you don't, you just take a quick look and form an opinion.

That said, I always think that I really don't know that much, but am amazed how people actually know less or get the easiest things wrong.

Now you may go back to your prejudices.

no,its just a fact,by thinking you know everything,you limit yourself greatly in your intellectual development
you once said "i question everything" ,well start with yourself
You must come to a realization that your knowledge is subjective and wont grow until you realize you know very little if anything at all.This hold true for everyone.We block ourselves from new information ,by closing up like this.

Keep an open mind

( > < )

again,this is true for you,myself and mostly everyone else

as was told you many times before, you are still in the phase where you have to learn to read and understand well:

I always think that I really don't know that much

you don't have to be defensive like that,..

and the whole sentence is:

"That said, I always think that I really don't know that much, but am amazed how people actually know less or get the easiest things wrong."

this makes a world of difference,because you don't question "the easiest things" and think your know more,when in fact your knowledge is subjective and relative (as is mine and everyone elses)

btw. you have a strong opinion on just about every subject i came across on ESR,so i don't really know what your talking about in that post above (i have strong opinions myself,but try to squeeze in "in my opinion .." or whatever )

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nothing defensive about my post.

You are bad at understanding what people write and have proven that several times.

I mean you didn't even manage to consider the basics that led to this discussion:

_agu was writing about Germany's team and I disagreed, and as it turns out I was correct, because agu knew even less than me.
If your and Vo0's accusations held any value I should have been commenting about Brazil's national team. I didn't because I am certain _agu knows more about it than me.

Thus, once more, you failed to understand a discussion.


On and I write "I think" and "in my opinion" fairly often, I even once got criticized for it by xou. But again the fact that you don't notice shows that you are unable to read carefully.

sad,you must have very low self-esteem or something,..

at least in moments like this, you feel good about yourself right

lol? whatever.

hahahaha, first you accuse me of thinking I know everything and then next you accuse me of having low self-esteem.

god, you should stick to copy&pasting crap from the internet, it gets only worse when you write on your own...

By which i mean someone got home a shot of his that hit a post or was deflected. Get that cactus out of your anus, boy.

nah go back to your baseball

wat

nice, i just looked esr for this thread, and here it is!

cuntland is out. haiiiiii suareeeeeeeezzzzzzzz

they should be robbed on the way home

they not only have been robbed, the alse have been sneijdered and bronkhorsted

germany vs spain is the real final anyway

No.

The real final is Germany vs. Netherlands.

btw: Why so hostile, man?
You wouldn't believe how Germany cheered for you guys yesterday. I got a bar round the corner, called 'De Prinz' owned by a dutch guy. They blocked the street with oranje and there were more Germans than Dutch. :)

maybe NL will choke in the final like Voo vs Fat

that was beyond mean

OH NO SHE DIDN'T

Not sure. Many Dutch are anti-German, especially regarding football. I'm sure it has to do with the rivalry, and the fact that you stole many of our bikes.

Just " no " isn't really hostile.

There is a healthy rivalry between the dutch and german national teams. Ballack allready pointed that out to the english press when England thought they were playing "THE CLASSIC" Ballack said that the only classic for germany is vs the Netherlands.

NL has a lot more sympathy for the germans nowadays then 20 years ago. Nowadays I think we are actually pretty fond of our neighbours, but we don't like to admit it :)

Was directed at something he wrote in another thread. :)

HUP HOLLAND HUP!

Am thinking about driving over there for the final.

Spain have been genuinely (though relatively!) poor the whole tournament really, they've really struggled to make use of their dominance in possession.

finally somebody came up with something valuable.

netherlands kicked out brazil, spain didn't play vs someone good so far


Edit: ah yeah, portugal, sorry. but brazil > portugal

lmao@_agu, and gSTRUCTOR

Haha you ended asking time even while the referees cheated and you come here to do this kind of comment. World finals arent the strong point of dutchs anyway, do you agree? You just dont have what it takes, sorry nothing personal, just stating facts.

Haha the hate! :)

replying this is even worthless than the referees in this world cup.

Props to Holland, excelent team from the middle to the scorers. That second goal stinks tho, the fair play motto is a joke. But in our case it was the oposite, they ruled offsides that werent. That doesnt sustracts from the dutch merit! It does from the value of the title and FIFA in general, with drastic mistakes always directed to the same ones, it cant be chance.

Its not restricted to football, its the society we live in. The same elites that robs billions to african countries from their natural resources, give speaks of racism in the world cup, while the gulf is dying quickly with the worst man made disaster ever, and there is the biggest ever concentration of troops and carriers in the persian gulf, but you wont see that on the MSM.

Its all a show guys, sorry to burst your bubble, talent doesnt matters its all about profit, their only god is money. Money can buy anything. We may be a thirld world country, we may be few, but our humble titles have the value of not being tainted with cheat. To all the ones that called cheat the hand of Suarez vs Ghana, now you have a good example of cheating in football, a referee ignoring an offside on purpose cause he was in the perfect line to see the action, cant be human error.

This is NOT againt Holland, this is not a rant, i salute their skills, like in any game its a pleasure to have powerful rivals, this is against a sick system. As Kishnamrti said "Its no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society". The more i understand the rules of the system the better i accept what is and enjoy all the wonderful things that this universe delivers.

LMAO

LMAO

Weak excuses coupled with completely unrelated rants about capitalism. This almost sounds like Jamerio and Jonesy had a son.

I would like to hear your opinion about the cup so far, mate. :)

I'm not raged about Brazil being out if thats what you're implying.

Not at all. Just wanted to know if there's still sane people in Brazil. :)

LMAO

That second goal stinks tho, the fair play motto is a joke.

rofl

redfaced

u mad again?
fairplay and urugay?
the country its name isnt fair too, i cant stop laughing at it

you are making up racism everywhere and you are a bad loser

lol

Also: Suarez is the biggest cheat in a WC since Rivaldo.

A lie said enough times become a truth, doesnt it? Keep thinking thats cheating, obviously your knowledge of football is on par with most in esrtrollity.

Haha ... iirc using your hand isn't exactly allowed in the game we call football.
You actually deny this fact? Or do you try to justify the actual cheat with your stupid fantasy-world accusations towards FIFA, the referees and africans?

edit: rephrased.

Stop lying. Uruguay people play football the American way. Is not cheating. Okay?

How something that is in the rules can be considered cheating? Not ruling offsides that end in goals sounds a lot more to cheat for me, dont know you. Gyan missed by his own incompetence, while holland scored the second goal due to the incompetence of the referee, the same one that rules various offsides against uruguay some of them not being such. We should have won anyway versus the referee like with Ghana, i dont blame the defeat only on that goal, but only a moron would say were the ones that cheat.

Delusional level: Jamerio.

Offside goals are happening since decades. Face it. The players are not the ones accountable for this. Just because you're Uruguay doesn't mean, it's not happening to you.

A player who denies an obvious goal with his hands is a cheat and shouldn't be celebrated like a messiah.
He should've shown, at least, A LITTLE BIT of humbleness. Just like you. Instead he went on celebrating, like he scored the winning goal.
You reached the semis due to cheating. Fact.

You think an offside goal the referees don't see, is a bigger cheat than a guy denying an obvious goal with his hands.


Wow.

A internet though guy behind his monitor giving lessons of how to be humble rofl

You are retarded and delusional.

It's always weird people with poor English skills who have these insane opinions.

i don't know if you're trolling (the markers have blurred very fast on this type of thread), but a cheat is something against the rules that went unpunished.. this is clearly not the case as the rules have been applied strictly with no room for debate (red card + penalty kick)

if it's in the game, it's in the game!

Apparently you have no idea what "cheat" means.

A cheat is someone who breaks the rules regardless of being caught and punished.

so.. if every foul and offside is a cheat, why does it matter so much to cry "cheat!!" in this situation? surely a lot of fouls change the outcome of the game as well, not so visible though..

Haha good point never thought it in that way. Good luck finding people on this forum that put truth before personal interests.

An unbooked red card that destroys the possibility of a goal would've been just as bad imo.

am drunk.

Well, offside can hardly be called cheat since it's usually accidental. You can't cheat by accident and most fouls aren't on purpose but that handball was, thus it is cheating.

Yeah yeah its the magic of language and thats why good lawyers earn so much money, being the one with the best lines can try to buy "truth", but if your intuition isnt sharp enough to see it youre just full of it and trying to bend the system to fit your personal opinion.

The actions of a player is subject to the skills of the referees, so at the end you can say the ultimate to blame are referees if they cant detect the "cheat". But if the referee clearly is on position to see the action and does nothing, then that is cheating of a referee and is subject to #~$NO CARRIER

Or whats better when they have hawk sight for one side and they can miss such obvious goals as the English one versus Germany. Its their fscking work theyre at the biggest event they should try a lot harder to not miss so much. Leaving the biased part away, the simple fact that there is so much miss is fail.

i don't know man.. this is pretty nuanced for me

i consider things like stalling, diving, faking injuries and boosting performance with drugs more cheating than standard fouls and hanball.. i think these are just part of the game wether we like it or not, especially if they're performed for tactical reasons AND punished correctly.

btw.. not all offsides are accidental, hint: Pippo Inzaghi

Like I said, the overwhelming majority of offsides and fouls are completely accidental and are just a result of mistiming or a lack of skill and naturally you wouldn't call these cheating.

All those things you listed are cheating but so is a deliberate handball such as the one seen in the Uruguay game (we aren't talking about a situation like Kewel in the Aus v Ghana game).

To put it another way, lets drop the word "cheat" for a moment. If you broke into my house and stole some things but didn't get caught, you're still a thief and I've still been burgled.

If you came across some item in the street that I had dropped but there is no way to link it back to me, you can't really be called a thief and nor can I really claim to have been burgled. It's still "wrong" to take it but it's not the same.

I'm curious, what is the comparable word "Cheat" in Romanian?

well, let's say i don't mind cheating in a sport when it is obvious, punished accordingly and can be undone. in this situation it was a calculated risc, a tactical decision

cheat as a verb or noun? there's many words for that :D
here are the most common used

to cheat = a trisa / trisare, a insela / inselare (latin: insellare)
cheater = trisor (fr: tricheur)
cheat = truc (fr: truc), subterfugiu (fr: subterfuge)

punished accordingly and can be undone.

Wouldn't making the cheat undone mean simply giving ghana the goal instead of giving them a penalty kick because there was no other way for him to stop the goal from happening without the hand cheat?

Exactly. This is where the rules are a bit flawed, imo. In this particular case, it should be handled like goal tending in basketball.

accidental plus tho. :E

hmm.. you are right

I'm not sure i agree with that logic. You can't gauge intent the same way you can gauge the severity of a foul. Cheating is anything that gives a side advantage, or deprives their opponents of an advantage, by breaking the rules. A simple counter breaking sliding tackle could have the same repercussions as Suarez's handball, even if the result wouldn't be as immediately evident.

Yeah, Suarez did cheat but so do thousands of players every game night, it's just how sports go. He should be neither glorified nor condemned for what he did, at the end of the day, the only real reason as to why this particular situation evokes intense discussion is the high profile nature of the game it happened in and the moment said foul play happened in. Appiah was offside moments earlier in that action, should he run to the ref and say the pen and red card should be revoked because he broke the rules? Would you think him a sane man if he did just that?

IMO the real evil in sports is the cynicism of things like what Materazzi had done to Zidane.

A simple counter breaking sliding tackle could have the same repercussions as Suarez's handball, even if the result wouldn't be as immediately evident.

You can't cheat accidentally, if it was a professional foul then yes, that is cheating but if it was accidental then it is simply a foul (though it should be punished correctly, which is why the rules need amending as it's too easy to break counter-attacks this way).

In order to be a cheat there has to be an act of dishonesty involved, ergo there has to have been intent (Be it subconscious or conscious) to break the rules.

He should be vilified as much as anyone else who performs a similar act, just as other players should be vilified with respect to their offences (Robben and injury feigning or Melo and stamping...).

I don't get the Robben bashing tbh. He's not been in the "news" as a diver in his first bundesliga season. Not at all.

Have you not watched any of these games?

Any contact and he's down as if he's had his ankled snapped in half.

Well, yeah. Not like he's worse than all the other guys and it's mostly after an actual foul.

He's by far and away the worst culprit and does it regardless of the challenge being a foul or not.

Robben + any physical contact OR looks like contact = in a ball on the ground screaming holding calf/ankle

Not in the Bundesliga so far.

Maybe that's the case but in every match I've ever seen him play he's been a complete and utter cheating scumbag.

Since the rules don't specify that the context of an offense should dictate the frame in which it should be taken as, why should we? Foul's a foul, foul is cheating, intent doesn't matter as long as the flow, and possibly, the outcome, of the game is affected. If future regulations will change this, alright then, and let me go on the record here that i'd love to see some additional rules for punishing feigning, diving and harder penalties for committing game altering offenses.

I mean, i understand your point, but i just can't agree with that.

no, a foul is not always cheating.

Fouls can happen accidentally, because one player can't control his feet, looks in the wrong direction, or whatever

accidental foul = no cheat
intentional foul = cheat

As i've seen most refs don't whistle if it's clearly an accident or only do so if one or both of the players got fucked up so they can receive medical attention. Like i said, it's open to interpretation and you can't really gauge the intent with precision, it's always a judgement call. So as far as the rules are concerned, it's all cheating.

That's not what happens at all.

Also as far as the rules are concerned it isn't all cheating, it's all "fouls" and intent isn't ever really taken into consideration that often (usually only dealing with handballs...).

that's because of the level of body control those players accidents don't happen nearly as often. But they do.
e.g. Often enough a player wants to kick a ball from between another players lags that has his back turned towards him. But hits a leg instead. Intention was clearly to hit the ball, but it turned into a foul.


But just look at the hobby leagues. I'd say most fouls there are accidental.

cheat | ch &#275;t|

verb
1 [ intrans. ] act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, esp. in a game or examination : she always cheats at cards.
• [ trans. ] deceive or trick : he had cheated her out of everything she had.
• use inferior materials or methods unobtrusively in order to save time or money : they cheat by photographing mashed potatoes instead of ice cream.
• informal be sexually unfaithful : his wife was cheating on him.

2 [ trans. ] avoid (something undesirable) by luck or skill : she cheated death in a spectacular crash.
• archaic help (time) pass : the tuneless rhyme with which the warder cheats the time.

I don't know anyone who uses the second definition in this context and it doesn't seem you are either.

noun
a person who behaves dishonestly in order to gain an advantage : a liar and a cheat.
• an act of cheating; a fraud or deception

The first definition is obviously what we both have in mind. I guess the difference is in scope and personal interpretation.

gSTRUCLOLTOR

On another topic:

Wouldn't it be awesome, if some of our amazingly talented Fragmoviemakers would make a highlight movie of this World Cup?
I'd say it would be a chance to get attention outside of the community, no?

I actually like 'Waving Flag', but i hate that there's no "ingame footage" in the video.

probably noone will, but if they do, they must include lampard's goal vs germany, tevez vs mexico, suarez hand of crap, villa's offside vs portugal, and similar stuff that will be remembered after this WC.

never before seen amount of fail on the biggest football tournament.

instant replay pls.

Don't forget Fabiano's juggling skills

lol yeah, that one was special

They'll be loads of WC comps on youtube anyway, don't need Quake fags doing it :D

esr football experts

i lold

polish football

i lold

i dont see any connection

You just got a esr football experts opinion on polish football

i dont give a shit about polish football

that's cause they went to play for germany

seems like a good choice to me

neither do we :D

but you know what's funny? for some reason you seem to have hooligan firms, although the level of football in your league is mediocre at best
i guess the viewership has to entertain itself if the people on the field can't provide something worthwhile

u r actually pretty right

i respect the South American teams, as such. They only have a rudimentary football culture which isn't very organized, and they don't have determination, discipline and soul to win a game against a good team like Germany. They're a bit like the Italians. If they win, they act like they're the greatest but if they lose you expect them to do a suicide. Personally, I think they use the services of prostitutes too.

a german Jonesy?

krautesy?

Well said, well said.

On the other hand the Germs just choke in the most important game.

Yeah haha i already said it, hate plusing versus Uruguay is like having Mike on your side, bad luck very very bad luck. Germany lost without fighting, NL vs UY was much more spectator friendly and enjoyable with 5x more goals and most of them AAA quality. The only team that hasnt hate plused against Uruguay will be the champ, tho. What a brilliant TEAM with capital words. They pass the ball with outstanding accuracy nearly at all ranges.

Without the help of referees, as prolly will be the case with those 2 european teams, the dutch can only win by a miracle, mark my words. Spain, welcome to the club of champs. They have the right mix of good players and enough FIFA influence to not be robbed and overcome a rival with a weak defense whose more agressive zaguero, the relative of the coach huh, kicked the shit out of everone throught the tourney and ended seeing the yellow at the last minutes of the semifinal, when it means shit. What a joke most of those (referee) clowns are.

Spain arrives with a balanced mix of talent and fair play, Holland has talent also but FIFA has weakened them by referee cheating, the most despicable form of cheating in football cause referees are like the law on the pitch. I wish both happy goaling next Sunday.

Is this a troll thread?

welcome

Btw we are the only team to score 2 goals vs NL in a long time, if it wasnt for the clearly invalidated goal we would be the ones playing on Sunday.

Happy to play Germany anyway, to keep closing filthy mouths, As i said in another thread, when you learn to play football here theres no diference between a friendly on the beach and the world cup final, you always give your maximum, always. Germany didnt put what Uruguay in the semis, much less theyre going to do it on the Saturday match.

My predictions:
Spain>Holland (if referees doesnt becomes news, like today match)
Uruguay>Germany (if referees doesnt becomes news, like today match)

lmao. your just as stupid, as it gets.

to keep closing filthy mouths

South Korea and Ghana? what the fuck, man?

You dont get it do you. I will explain slowly so you can. I said mouths, or fingers but fingers sounds fugly, im talking about losers like you posting nonsense here. I have the most respects to each athlete that defended his country in this tournament. Clear enough?

Ok, mate. Well done. You closed the mouths of Ghana and South Korea.

Congratz.

And France, and Mexico, and the local South Africa. Germany next.

Yeah, really awesome. France fighting with their coach instead of playing football, Mexico with a .. what? 38yr old up front and a 170cm guy between the posts and a team that didn't even qualify for the african championships.

gg.

Youre a bag of shitty excuses arent you? You dont accept documented tv proof of referee cheating, but you come with the worst excuses ever hahah. You make Germans look dumb stop ruining the reputation of such smart country. Good luck next Saturday, youre gonna need it.

They drew with France, 0-0.

I know!

I gotta say, I admire your schizophrenic passion gSTRUCTOR.

Him and _agu make quite the pair. The fuck is it with South American's acting retarded on the tinternetz?

Not only on teh internetz tbh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVksdN4QnvA

should have taken his player of the year award for that, tbh.

Heres a wall you wont like :(
LMAO@Haters

"Uruguay won its independence in 1828 following a three-way struggle between Spain, Argentina and Brazil. It is a constitutional democracy, where the president fulfills the roles of both head of state and head of government. The economy is largely based on agriculture (making up 11% of GDP and the most substantial export), the state sector, and the information technology field and tourism is also strong in the country. Uruguay's economy is on the whole more stable than in surrounding states, and it maintains a solid reputation with investors. According to Transparency International, Uruguay is the least corrupt country in Latin America with its political and labor conditions being among the freest on the continent. An estimated 94.6% of the population are of mostly European descent.

Uruguay has a middle-income economy, mainly dominated by the State services sector, an export-oriented agricultural sector and an industrial sector. Uruguay relies heavily on trade, particularly in agricultural exports, leaving the country particularly vulnerable to slumps in commodity prices and global economic slowdowns. In recent years Uruguay has shifted some of its energy into developing the commercial use of technologies and has become the first exporter of software in Latin America. The main sport in Uruguay is soccer; Uruguay is the smallest country to have won the FIFA World Cup, having won twice - in 1930 and 1950.

Montevideo is the largest city, the capital and chief port of Uruguay. Montevideo is the only city in the country with a population over 1,000,000. According to Mercer Human Resource Consulting, Montevideo provides the highest quality of life in Latin America."
source with photos

HAHAHA L and Haters Co KEEP THE HATE AND LIES COMING LAWL

losing much? :(
SOUTH AMERICAN PRIDE BABY \o> \o/ <o/

Some quick facts from your own post to tone you down boi:

An estimated 94.6% of the population are of mostly European descent.

"South American" pride indeed.

main sport in Uruguay is soccer

You just called football 'soccer', hence all your statements regarding football in any past, present or future ESR discussions have been nullified.

Have a good day!

Haha youre an expert nitpicker and plus whore, congrats dude :) You find little details to look smart. Soccer Football whatever youre funny indeed. They plus the nitpicker while ignoring the facts, best lifestyle of a whole lota dirt, haha but those photos are from European Tourists!!! Hahah nono dude theyre from the descendents of smart europeans that had the balls to conquer another land.

About the European part, i have a thread about the big percentage of Italian in Uruguay/Argentina and the absolute domination of the sports in the first 30 years of international game (2 cups and 2 olympic games Uruguay, 2 cups Italy). The natives here were massascred every body knows that, what a joke youre :)

They lie. They troll. They spam. When i entered this site with a detailed info on the bandwith of Quake4 i remembered how important popularity was and the joy on the pluses. Now im each day happier to have a low popularity, and im beggining to understand why each passing day less and less world class players post here. Your attitude shows that youre mostly a bunch of losers at the most important game, life.

k

just put on ignore some of these guys, if not all:
-mash
-becks
-IgniCock
-Lethe
-Aquashark
-Demiurge
through these consider Demiurge a little bit more ok but he usually tend to autoevaluate himself too high at which point he is no better than other, Aquashark an explosive temper who might fall in the trap of eating in the same place he shit, becks has a bit of better logics but in that rigid engineering way who many times sees a bit in front of him but never the entire picture, close to zero imagination also, his only fun moments derrive from a complex logical situation or silly joke, he likes a bit psychology maybe has been reading some books on this discipline but with poor results, Lethe a guy with no character (he used to be peacefull with other people only sporadic fightings with becks now he kinda kisses becks ass) as for the other on the list they are just pure trash



all these tend to show moderate aggressivity in their posts if they doesn't agree on what you say and then will desperately constantly try to show the world that you are a moron which complementary to their HAL9000 self-image have to feed their ego; I understand part of their upset: none of them is playing or has a chance to play at professional level, on a so-called elitist quake players forum despite the fact that they will hardly try to convince you that this is happening because it is their choice; so you have to excuse them a bit, this is their "will to power" way

if you want pure information you don't need to log in and if you wanna have a dialogue you will hardly have any kind with their kind
bottom line is, Good Will Hunting style, there is nothing they can say that hasn't been said already but better in some book so you won't miss a goddamn thing if you put these retards on ignore

haha, raged.

rofl at implying you see "the whole picture".
You comments of explaining it were hilarious though, I'll give you that.

Also, madbringer already informed you of the invalidity of your first "Cup".

so basically your quotes are all about being better than other South American countries, and then you say "south American pride".

Seriously, you should take a break from these discussion, wait a few months then come back and look at your posts again.

You might notice then that they are full of contradictions, like the one above, which is why people are constantly making fun of them.


They are also full off attacks against the rest of the world, but for some reason you expect us to swallow that and hail Uruguay as the greatest country in the world. You are just one biased individual, and that is something that will alway be ridiculed here. And that is what I like about this site: Honesty. Not the firendly, nicely, ignoring all contradictions, censorship of other site.

You distort the origin of my defense to support your view. I wouldnt need to post those facts from international organizations if it werent for esr trolls posting LIES afters LIES about my beatiful country :) You pick one side of the story to support your view. We are a humble nation, but if somebody tries to fsck us we have to prove them wrong. Is it so hard to understand?

stupid cunt.

we are a humble nation,

holy fucking shit.

You post several posts about how great your country is, how it's better than it's neighbor countries.
Then you go to proclaim you are humble on top of it.
And for that you call me and others liars.


You really remind me of this guy:

"I am athletic, awesome looking and very smart. Women want me, men want to be me. But my best trait by far is that I am so very humble."

By clawo Liam +++'
Glad no filthy south americans will be winning it now.

By Iceland linkoo +| - Reply to #44
Don't have a lot of books in Uruguay huh

etc...

We dont have books says a troll on esr, so i bring a fact, we are the #1 softwater exporter from LA.

etc...

troll troll troll always trying to grow his epenis

*facepalm*

Hate to drag this out, but you're pissing everyone off with this cunt arrogant act, so here goes: those two WC wins you have were flukes. The first one was a fucking joke, only FOUR European countries attended because the trip took several weeks (could only use boats back then), there were no qualifications held, and the final was a circus due to Argentine players receiving death threats, should they beat the hosts. Well fucking done, you are the champions.

The nineteen fifty gold was less of a fluke, but certainly the fact that europe was just barely beginning to rebuild from the chaos of world war 2 played a huge part in the events transpired. And again, not all of the teams could attend due to the then-remoteness of the playground and logistic fuck-ups. Still, it was a beautiful victory over Brazil, all in all, a deserved title. Only, it was half a century ago.

The olympic games were (and still are) a joke so dunno if you should take pride in those.

So to sum it up, your sport achievements constitute of one legit WC gold won over half a century ago in a hack of a tournament. Grats.

thanks!

Its a good thing that Muslera plays for Lazio.

Starting to feel sorry for Uruguay...

Dont feel sorry anymore, divine justice has just server Netherlands the place they are good at.

I still consider Germany the 2010 World Cup champions. I was with them the whole time. They lost to Spain, just like they lost to Serbia. They didn't get beat, they beat themselves.

Lesson to be learned, Germany, don't kill Jews (i'm ethnically Jewish), and don't ally with Austrians.

good man.