ESR - IEM4 WC Finals QL

<< Comment #1 @ 13:35 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

oskid

1. av3k
2. Cypher
3. Cooller
4. rapha

Edited by lobuz at 13:37 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #65 @ 17:23 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #1

You posted in reverse what it will be. ;P

<< Comment #619 @ 10:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #65

damn you were really close :D

<< Comment #161 @ 05:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

n1ghty - Reply to #1

kk pololski :F

<< Comment #232 @ 09:38 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CAREEM - Reply to #1

fuck, u might have right :P

<< Comment #583 @ 09:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #1

lmao

<< Comment #2 @ 13:38 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob

1. Cypher
2. fox
3. cooller
4. DaHang

<< Comment #3 @ 13:39 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wrong person

no offence, but am i crazy, or carmac really got something in common with "dr. evil" ? :)

oh, and also GO FOX!!!

Edited by amj at 13:40 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #4 @ 13:42 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By $\0/$ fragerr

go avek nigga boy

<< Comment #7 @ 14:07 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

zealot - Reply to #4

When I think that I'm over you
I'm overpowered

Your data, my data
The chromosomes match
Exact as in matter
A matter of fact

Edited by zealot at 14:10 CST, 4 March 2010

2%

<< Comment #19 @ 14:56 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

miks

someone, please make a fragmovie from this event, it's gonna be epic!

<< Comment #5 @ 13:49 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Akuma

Nice coverage for ESR xou, thanks :)

Good response time for demo uploading too, thanks ESL demo ppl!

1. Cypher
2. Dahang
3. Cooller
4. Rapha
5. Fox

Edited by Akuma at 14:06 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #21 @ 15:01 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed - Reply to #5

rapha and dahang can't both be in the top4

<< Comment #32 @ 15:37 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Akuma - Reply to #21

Good point. I didn't look at the brackets :(

<< Comment #55 @ 17:02 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #32

And Cooller has to be top 2 if Av3k or Fox aren't above him ;)

<< Comment #154 @ 05:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #5

ESL demo ppl = IEM admins

<< Comment #6 @ 14:00 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

1. cypher
2. cooller
3. rapha
4. av3k

<< Comment #8 @ 14:24 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf '

1) C
2) O
3) O
4) L
5) L
6) E
7) R

my prediction for top 7

16%

<< Comment #9 @ 14:29 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

spartaz0rd

1)cooller
2)dahang
3)cypher
4)av3k

Edited by spartaz0rd at 14:31 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #10 @ 14:42 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

exp!

cypher is gonna take this

<< Comment #11 @ 14:43 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Co1nCo1n

1) dunno
2) dunno
3) dunno
5) dunno
6) dunno
6) dunno
7) strenx

:-(

<< Comment #47 @ 16:26 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

spyteman - Reply to #11

dunno is playing cpm........................

<< Comment #200 @ 09:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #47

his full name is "dunno who"

<< Comment #12 @ 14:44 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ted

why spread this out over so many days...

<< Comment #13 @ 14:49 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Co1nCo1n - Reply to #12

May be it is just to let a lot of free time to the players (for partying and drinking) ?

<< Comment #34 @ 15:39 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ted - Reply to #13

i don't like to mix business with pleasure.

<< Comment #14 @ 14:51 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ps2mouze

http://cyberfight.ru/site/news/65403/

44%

<< Comment #17 @ 14:55 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #14

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&am...&tl=en

<< Comment #72 @ 17:38 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #17

translated again

http://www.hosed.com/video/35/pussy-fountain-paints-the-walls-wow

<< Comment #118 @ 01:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #72

I read your url while I clicked it. Not a site I want to visit while being at work :(

<< Comment #112 @ 00:41 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #17

"showed avec where crabs hibernate"
LOL!

<< Comment #20 @ 14:56 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #14

what does he shout when he punches the table at the end ? translate please.

<< Comment #24 @ 15:07 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr - Reply to #20

"DA" in Russian, "YES" in English.

<< Comment #25 @ 15:07 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wrong person - Reply to #20

he's screaming victorious "Yeah!" =)

<< Comment #22 @ 15:02 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio - Reply to #14

Great vid love the end :) and ofc THE rail. Epic.

Edited by Carpio at 15:03 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #26 @ 15:17 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Co1nCo1n - Reply to #14

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #124 @ 01:45 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Aquashark ' - Reply to #26

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwuMbNnccc

<< Comment #30 @ 15:27 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #14

DAAAAAAAAA SUKA BLJAT' :DDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #35 @ 15:40 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro - Reply to #14

moar of this!! i actually applauded together with them at the end.

<< Comment #41 @ 15:58 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #35

I like how his folks are getting excited standing right there behind him, and even applaud at each good shot. And that he doesn't seem to be disturbed at all by that.

<< Comment #43 @ 16:11 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Co1nCo1n - Reply to #41

Have you ever seen some CS matchs with their fanboys ? :)

<< Comment #49 @ 16:35 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #43

Never played, never seen, never bothered. Also, cooller doesn't recommend video games ;)

<< Comment #102 @ 22:10 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #41

Noise cancelling headphones.

<< Comment #107 @ 22:57 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #102

God bless your belief in technology. But in reality, they don't suppress all ambient sound. He still hears it for sure, given the proximity and "volume".

<< Comment #117 @ 01:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #102

he was using his own gear
we only have the headsets on stage for the matches shown on the big screen with live commentary

<< Comment #50 @ 16:36 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #14

haha,outpour of emotions at the end "DAAAAAAA!!!!" fucking love it :D

best match so far by a mile

<< Comment #15 @ 14:53 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz

Pretty please, just do everything possible that any of the rest doesn't get fucked up anymore. I'm so totally looking forward to the games.

<< Comment #16 @ 14:54 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wocK_

let me get this straight.....

STREAM B HAS NO HIGH QUALITY OPTION EVEN WITH THE PREMIUM???

THIS IS THE REASON WE WILL NEVER GET GTV BECAUSE ESL WILL JUST CHARGE PEOPLE FOR STUPID MONEY FOR AN ACTUAL STREAM THAT IS OF DECENT QUALITY....

they should check out the eve-tv streams because they really did own. Boring as shit tho but they looked amazing

They should do passes for events. Then id actually consider it. Except i almost did buy one but lucky i found out B doesn't have high quality...

otherwise id be raging :/

6%

<< Comment #37 @ 15:42 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Crasis - Reply to #16

Stream B has a high quality:

Linked from here: http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/

CeBIT Premium Stream B direct link here: http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-cebithigh

1%

<< Comment #42 @ 16:00 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

supersonicwaffle - Reply to #16

B does have high quality....

<< Comment #45 @ 16:20 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #16

it does, you're probably referring to when carmac said on stream he was sorry they couldn't offer premium stream for the QL matches but he probably just meant he was sorry quake wasn't in stream A which has more prettier effects.

<< Comment #48 @ 16:30 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wocK_ - Reply to #45

yep Carmac has confused me

oops

Still though an event pass would be nice

nothing else is on for 3 months except this as far as i know

<< Comment #113 @ 00:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

a hule? - Reply to #16

stream b quality is visibly worse than the usual premium quality. if i had known that premium would be in such quality i would never have bought it.

but i don't whine, since i can see that there are objective reasons for quake being shown on stream b. i just hope they will have good quality for at least the semis and the grand final. otherwise, this event would remain a complete failure in my eyes.

<< Comment #156 @ 05:23 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #16

ESL TV A & B have free and premium quality. I think you're referring to the ESL Radio stream, the one using livestream?

<< Comment #18 @ 14:55 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stingerrayer

why does a wanky female CS game take precedence over QL quater-final matches?

<< Comment #28 @ 15:22 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #18

Ok lets blame females, grow up kid. Try blaming ESL for not having one channel per game for a paid service.

<< Comment #33 @ 15:39 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stingerrayer - Reply to #28

did you even try to construct a reply that made sense, or was relevant to my post?

<< Comment #44 @ 16:14 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #33

Its hard to make sense when answering such level of questions.

<< Comment #53 @ 16:45 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carsomyr - Reply to #28

He didn't blame "females." He made a good point.

<< Comment #58 @ 17:12 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #28

you on your period son?

1%

<< Comment #68 @ 17:29 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #58

He bashes females, you use "period" as an insult. Women haters on the rise.

<< Comment #93 @ 21:14 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jubei - Reply to #68

Trying to work out if you are trying to get some female attention by going all pro women here.

The man didnt say it was 'females' fault, what he said is why is a female cs game taking precidence over a quakelive quarter finals game.

No game of CS should be shown over quake, let alone a female one which is essentially like watching pub league football.

<< Comment #40 @ 15:55 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob - Reply to #18

Even a standard group stage CS match will get far more viewers than a quarter final QL match, unfortunately.

<< Comment #64 @ 17:23 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #18

Hey, it's obvious CS hasn't gotten enough coverage!

<< Comment #120 @ 01:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #18

I am pretty sure there will be a broadcast of the QL matches, I'm not sure but i believe that the female cs match will have German commentary and our English commentators will be available.

<< Comment #23 @ 15:04 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kK_Storm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfs8i58xOto&am...r_embedded

Watch as a whole or start it @ 3:20 ;)

Edited by kK_Storm at 15:08 CST, 4 March 2010

5%

<< Comment #29 @ 15:22 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #23

DAAAAAAAA !

<< Comment #115 @ 01:04 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

a hule? - Reply to #23

oh, fucking idiotic background commentary.

<< Comment #27 @ 15:19 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR '

God is dead. All hail the return of the king.

<< Comment #36 @ 15:42 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro - Reply to #27

hail

<< Comment #31 @ 15:29 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Roswell47

----F
--F-O
F-O-X
O-X
X

<< Comment #38 @ 15:47 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

deotrip

cooller vs rapha demos plz!

edit: nvm found them on esl page

Edited by deotrip at 15:50 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #39 @ 15:54 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lamur - Reply to #38

link

<< Comment #46 @ 16:22 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz

1. av3k

<< Comment #51 @ 16:40 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JayDee_

cypher
cooller
dAhANg
fox

<< Comment #52 @ 16:42 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

15:00 CET, 5 March 2010: Relegation 1 - rapha vs DaHanG - on ESL TV B (bet / details)

so even tho fox won dahang,he had less maps so takes 3rd place ?

are yall finally 100% sure about this ? :P

<< Comment #54 @ 16:58 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

noctis - Reply to #52

fox is second so he plays av3k who got third, what are you trying to say?

<< Comment #79 @ 18:20 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #54

what do you mean what i am i trying to say? it seems no one STILL doesnt know for sure how it is :p

<< Comment #125 @ 01:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #79

well, you can look at the ESL rulebook an it's quite clear there.

Sput already explained to me that it is a website problem cause the sorting mechanism is wrong and any correction they do by hand gets undone when a new result is added.

<< Comment #56 @ 17:04 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro - Reply to #52

it seems they fixed it on website now. fox is 2nd due to win against dahang.

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../rankings/

<< Comment #70 @ 17:31 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #56

but dahang has more map wins, they are not even. dahang should place 2'nd.

<< Comment #87 @ 20:32 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Vo0 - Reply to #70

But fox beat dahang.
ESL's ruling:

Player A beats Player B
Player A has equal win/loss as Player B
Player B has more net map wins than Blayer A
Player A still places higher as he beat Player B.

ROCKET SCIENCE.

<< Comment #97 @ 21:44 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #87

Rocket science?

Player A (2-0-3) Maps :4-6
Player B (2-0-3) Maps :7-6
Player C (4-0-1) Maps :9-2

Player A beats Player B
Player B beats Player C
Player C beats Player A

Player A is still 2nd???

Man ESL rules suck:/

<< Comment #108 @ 23:09 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Vo0 - Reply to #97

Ofcourse. Player A beat Player B (tied for win/loss), therefore Player A is 2nd. What does not make sense?

<< Comment #129 @ 02:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #97

"direct comparison" is used for this type in many types of leagues, so it's hardly "ESL rules".

The reasoning is: Why should someone be placed below someone he beat, if both have the same amount of points?

<< Comment #390 @ 17:45 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #129

Idk.. out of 10 games DaHanG would've probably won 8.

It only saddens me to see such talent and hard-work and hype get knocked out b/c of the lack of double elim. in playoffs, or just bad match-up. Oh well... better luck next time Tim.

<< Comment #646 @ 11:12 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #390

well he did lose twice...

but I know what you mean, Cooller lost only once :(

<< Comment #745 @ 18:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #646

Cooller says he's happy that he finally gets to feel what it's like to be in a finals game again. That made me smile a little. He said "Thank God." Made me smile moar

<< Comment #57 @ 17:05 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Tanksy

according to what Carmac said onstream, those brackets are wrong. It should be rapha vs fox and avek vs dahang.

Edited by Tanksy at 17:05 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #61 @ 17:19 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #57

Yep, thats what I figured too, from what I see fox got 7 map wins and dahang 8, so I can't see why they need to swap back-and-forth, they certainly don't know the rules.

*yawn*

<< Comment #69 @ 17:30 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

revocelot - Reply to #57

I hope that's the case.

<< Comment #121 @ 01:20 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #57

it is definitely rapha vs dahang and fox vs av3k

<< Comment #126 @ 02:00 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mammon - Reply to #121

cause fox beat dahang and they have same amount of match wins

<< Comment #134 @ 02:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #126

yes, map wins only come into the play when there is a situation where a tie on points can't be resolved by using the direct encounter of the involved participants

<< Comment #59 @ 17:13 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird

WHERE ARE THE VODS?!
IM NOT TALKING WOW/CS

<< Comment #63 @ 17:20 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #59

there hasn't been enough CS these past days... really

:(

<< Comment #92 @ 21:00 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Naghokez - Reply to #63

there hasn't been enough whine from you about CS these past days... really

:(

<< Comment #163 @ 06:03 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #63

true...ill watch some cs vods too ofc but want ql!

<< Comment #144 @ 03:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

moss - Reply to #59

If you love capslock, why don't you marry?

<< Comment #164 @ 06:03 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #144

OK

<< Comment #253 @ 09:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wocK_ - Reply to #144

CAPS LOCK IS THE NEW LOL

HAVE U NOT HEARD?

<< Comment #60 @ 17:17 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

so ESL can't decide who placed 3'rd in group B? It's obvious fox did, as dahang has mor map wins.

They been swapping back and forth about this all day, make up your minds.

<< Comment #62 @ 17:19 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Tanksy - Reply to #60

Carmac said fox had placed second but that was before cooller beat rapha. Now he probably wants to go back on it so that he can prevent 2 Americans from being in top 4.

<< Comment #67 @ 17:29 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #62

hehe, well seeing this tournament is run to the ground it even pisses me more off when they can't count the map wins. If the maps were the same I could understand fox taking 2'nd, but it wasn't dahang has more wins and that's what counts.

<< Comment #74 @ 17:43 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

andysak - Reply to #67

Head-to-head fox beat DaHanG... might clear things up a bit.

<< Comment #123 @ 01:24 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #60

the reason it switched back and forth is due to how the website works. every time a a new score is entered the league will refresh the rankings and re-set our manual adjustments to the ranking.

<< Comment #137 @ 03:13 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #123

yes, I got it now.
sorry for my whine, I was just frustrated because of it and made me utter stuff I normally wouldn't do.

But I have no one but myself to blame.

<< Comment #66 @ 17:24 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ShadyVoltaire

here is a better one

Edited by ShadyAK at 17:27 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #71 @ 17:32 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio

Map wins only counts if a three way tie happens. In this case head to head result should decide imho.

<< Comment #73 @ 17:40 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #71

ye, In Your Opinion. are you admin?

dahang has 8-4 map wins, fox has 7-6.

Edited by x1138 at 17:41 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #75 @ 17:43 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #73

his opinion and ESL rules, retard

7%

<< Comment #76 @ 17:46 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #75

just gtfo, dick

<< Comment #78 @ 18:00 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #76

:D

<< Comment #83 @ 19:14 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash] - Reply to #76

haha. it's awesome how you embarass yourself in every single post.

<< Comment #103 @ 22:14 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #83

well, I wouldn't sink as low as rooting for av3k

<< Comment #170 @ 08:51 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash] - Reply to #103

right.

<< Comment #77 @ 17:59 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

langley

Clearly fox is the underdog here and deserves to win!

F O X
O
X

<< Comment #84 @ 19:21 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob - Reply to #77

F O X
~~O O O~~
X

I win.

I always knew i'd make it big at naughts and crosses.

Edited by grimbob at 19:22 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #114 @ 00:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

langley - Reply to #84

I sure hope fox for once will make it big himself! loloz

<< Comment #80 @ 18:31 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

j0sh_

I'm watching this at work!

I've got alot of explaining to do with all this cum sprayed everywhere!

<< Comment #88 @ 20:36 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carsomyr - Reply to #80

You better lie and tell your boss you were watching porn. At least you'll have a shred of dignity when you get fired.

4%

<< Comment #89 @ 20:38 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

j0sh_ - Reply to #88

lmao

<< Comment #167 @ 06:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

slunge - Reply to #88

haha ; )

<< Comment #100 @ 21:47 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (bas5-toronto01-1177868615.dsl.bell.ca)

Rapha vs FOX and dahang vs av3k would be better imo.

Rapha lost to fox before and all that shit, so we can expect a nice match up.

av3k vs dahang? I think dahang can beat him easy.

I don't want to see Rapha vs Dahang.. thats just shit. And av3k will roll fox easy.

Cypher is badass. I would want to see him play vs an in-shape toxjq though. Since he will face a smarter aimer than strenx with a godly rail on top. I think he'd get rolled hard.

<< Comment #81 @ 18:41 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Fatola

F O X
O - O
X O F

Edited by Fatola at 18:42 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #312 @ 11:35 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #81

there's zerox4

<< Comment #82 @ 18:51 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us

aw that sucks dahang vs rapha. those 2 should have only met in finals. :(

<< Comment #99 @ 21:47 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (203.0.223.243) - Reply to #82

and why should dahang and rapha meet only in finals? (I'm assuming you mean "grand final"??)

Dahang isn't playing that well and is hardly impressive...

<< Comment #127 @ 02:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr - Reply to #99

Because they are from USA, ofc.

3%

<< Comment #391 @ 17:47 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #127

Better than any of the euro's he played obv.
Fox had his string of luck, and it will end when he plays cooller.

<< Comment #130 @ 02:11 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #82

Apparantly that's what happens if people are not good enough to win all their group matches.

<< Comment #191 @ 08:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #130

like canada?

<< Comment #196 @ 09:11 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #191

yes, us players are like canada.

<< Comment #338 @ 13:14 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #196

so rapha gonna win it all then huh?

<< Comment #341 @ 13:17 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #338

Is this tournament in rapha's living room?

<< Comment #351 @ 13:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #341

USA MOTHER FUCKER SHOVE IT DOWN YOUR THROAT AND SUCK ON IT WITH YOUR TONSILS BITCH.

<< Comment #352 @ 13:45 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #351

I'll take that as a no.

<< Comment #354 @ 13:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #352

you would take that. take that dick down your mouth as i bust a load.

<< Comment #355 @ 13:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #354

I am a vampire.

<< Comment #375 @ 15:35 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #355

becks where do you live I want to punch you irl

<< Comment #376 @ 15:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #375

Come to the finals tomorrow ;)

<< Comment #386 @ 17:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #341

haha ... dm13 ... rapha's living room

<< Comment #85 @ 19:30 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

terrorhead

2gd > fatality

<< Comment #101 @ 21:52 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c - Reply to #85

2GD: "He's taking those Risky Risks."
Joe Miller: "Risky Risks?"

ahahahah...priceless

<< Comment #86 @ 20:07 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

go av3k!!!

7%

<< Comment #91 @ 20:47 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #86

Plused for loyalty.

<< Comment #94 @ 21:15 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash] - Reply to #91

that's just how we roll!

<< Comment #90 @ 20:43 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

j0sh_

I was impressed w/ dkt vs cypher. dkt really put up more of a fight than I thougth he would. Impressive

<< Comment #131 @ 02:12 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

leopold ' - Reply to #90

Agreed

<< Comment #98 @ 21:46 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (cpc2-ando3-0-0-cust677.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

Go Av3k!! He may be a douche sometimes but he is a good kid :P

<< Comment #159 @ 05:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dadS - Reply to #98

alltimes

<< Comment #95 @ 21:35 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

GrotesK

cooller by way of daaa! smash

Edited by GrotesK at 21:37 CST, 4 March 2010

6%

<< Comment #157 @ 05:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Inane - Reply to #95

Cooller used tableslam.
It's super effective!

On a related note I couldn't help but slam my table too when he got those final frags.

<< Comment #317 @ 11:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #95

could also be "YAAAAAWN"

<< Comment #96 @ 21:44 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

evilbollweevil

The Playoff bracket misleads a bit with the #7 and #8 spots blank...almost like 8 players, but in fact there's only four to actually play, then those winners play Cooller&Cypher.

Am I correct? Thanks.

p.s. holy shit! (plz no puns) I had Cooller's v. Rapha's vid running on another window while I was typing and could actually FEEL that fist thump on MY computer desk! DA!

Edited by evilbollweevil at 21:47 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #104 @ 22:21 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja

so is dahang 2nd or 3rd?

<< Comment #105 @ 22:30 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #104

haha, yeah. dahang finished 3'rd because fox beat him.

Funny thing is that the so-called score difference don't mean shit, can't understand why it's even there on the rankings page.
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../rankings/

So it's rapha vs dahang... which sux.

<< Comment #106 @ 22:34 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #105

That does not make sense.

<< Comment #109 @ 23:45 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #106

A hypothetical question:
Let's say that two players are tied, and we can use whatever means possible (i.e. assume we aren't confined to anything and can freely change our tourney structure at will), then what way of deciding who gets through makes most sense?

Edited by p4r4 at 23:51 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #110 @ 23:51 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #109

it does not matter what I think it only matters how it is.

<< Comment #111 @ 23:52 CST, 4 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #110

So you say that the most obvious and direct way of deciding who has higher place makes no sense?

Edited by p4r4 at 23:53 CST, 4 March 2010

<< Comment #136 @ 03:10 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #111

on another note, you can lose a group match towards a player and still place top in the group.

My point was that it's kinda weird that dahang places 3'rd when he has more map wins than fox. That fox won against him shouldn't theoretically place him above dahang.

It's odd that is all.

Edited by x1138 at 03:18 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #152 @ 04:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #136

It's not at all odd. For group games, you have to come up with a scheme which, for each pair of players, is able to decide which one ranks higher in the end. That is which puts players A ... F in a strict order A>B>...>F.

Now, game win's alone obviously don't cut it yet. Question is which criterion or criteria you'd apply at the next level.

As to direct comparison, this already resolves the issue in a group stage where all players are required to play each other and where the game itself knows no tie/draw. Whereas map wins might not resolve it quite yet, because two players could have the same number of game and map wins.

So you could have sorting schemes like
* game wins, direct comparison
* game wins, map wins, direct comparison

Now, for each of those you could make an argument about which of them makes more sense. Regarding the latter, you could say for example that game wins over a group already have an averaging effect, so you want an average applied at the next decision level too. Like map wins.

But then, you could say that the competition is not about winning maps but winning games. So there you'd take the game wins and then the direct comparison. A scheme which unambiguously resolves all ranking issues already while only involving game wins.

From my pov it's rather a matter of taste which one you pick (also because I'm too lazy to think through possible pros and cons). But you certainly can't say that the former is less intuitive than the latter. Deciding by game wins and game wins alone whenever possible is very intuitive.

<< Comment #192 @ 08:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

clan519 - Reply to #152

Map wins makes a lot more sense than head to head, don't even pretend that it doesn't. Should be map wins, frag difference, and then head to head.

<< Comment #197 @ 09:12 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #192

what? if 2 contenders are equal in wins in groupstage, give me a single reason to not choose the winner from the direct confrontation of those two!

<< Comment #211 @ 09:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

clan519 - Reply to #197

So if say Dahang loses a close match with Cooller 2-1, and the final map was decided in sudden death, he should still be ranked lower than say someone who lost to Cooller 0-2 by heavy margins but managed to beat Dahang by 2-1 in another scraper? No, performance in the group matters as much if not more than h2h, it's how they do it in all real sports.

<< Comment #236 @ 09:40 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #211

They do in most other sports, like ball games, because those games allow ties/draws. See the logic I detailed above.

<< Comment #302 @ 11:04 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mammon - Reply to #211

fucking moron

<< Comment #204 @ 09:27 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

.syL - Reply to #192

I've looked at your post with timescale 0.1 and determined that you're full of shit

<< Comment #215 @ 09:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

clan519 - Reply to #204

HRRR, kgb still hacks btw.

<< Comment #205 @ 09:27 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #192

Counting map wins is last resort way, no need to use it when we have direct comparison of two players.

Edited by p4r4 at 09:28 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #313 @ 11:40 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #192

Indeed it should be:
1) Wins
2) Maps
3) Head to Head

The whole point of groups is to find out who is "best" averaged out after all, or we'd just do full SE tournaments surely?

<< Comment #327 @ 12:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #313

yeah, group system like this is directly comparable to SE. lol.

<< Comment #329 @ 12:51 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #327

It wasn't a comparison?

<< Comment #330 @ 12:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #329

sounded like it to me :(

<< Comment #339 @ 13:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #330

Was saying how the idea of groups is to get the "best" players on "average" through, so Wins->Maps->Head-to-Head makes more sense (Since frags would just be outright unfair).

I guess you could say it's a comparison but that wasn't the point!

<< Comment #344 @ 13:23 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #339

maybe, but the maps thing is not a very indicator, either, because a 3rd map does not always get played.

If a player wins 2/3 of his map against another one, their match should normally end up being counted a win and 2-1 maps. But if he manages to win the first one, we never find out if he would have love a third map.
Of course, this is weakened a bit by players picking maps but it still is a factor.

<< Comment #348 @ 13:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #344

In fact, might be better to just have every player in the group play every map against each other.

Time constraints but blah, it's TL10 ffs, 50min per game is fine :D

<< Comment #194 @ 09:08 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #111

I mean seriously this whole thing was fucking stupid. That anyone would consider or think it obvious that map wins should not count to a players rank is a fucking idiot. Especially when you look at the ESL website and they take the time to show u Fox and Dahang ranked the same, dahang has more map wins, but fox wins over dahang. http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../rankings/

So what fox beat dahang, dahang beat the other players that beat fox, big deal should come down to map wins any other conclusion makes you a fucking idiot. go ahead para.

<< Comment #198 @ 09:14 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #194

map difference is only useful in a three-way-tie, as direct confrontation is ambigious with a>b>c c>a

<< Comment #316 @ 11:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #198

Do you think in college basketball when a undefeated team loses to a non ranked team suddenly that team is better then them? Or should be ranked in the NCAA tournament above them? Get a clue

<< Comment #332 @ 12:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #194

lmao@usa

<< Comment #133 @ 02:26 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio - Reply to #105

"Funny thing is that the so-called score difference don't mean shit"

Man can you pls get over this? You embarass yourself with every post you make. In 99% of the cases its like this in every event. h2h > maps in a 2 way tie. It just makes much more sense. It looks like everybody understands this expect you.

<< Comment #138 @ 03:19 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #133

yeye, I am over it :)

<< Comment #116 @ 01:12 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita

i don't know why, but I just don't want cypher to win. his play style is exciting and all that, but I can't put my finger on it as to why i feel mostly apathetic to watch him play.

i can see rapha beating cypher, but not dahang, so go rapha! not that it matters since fox will win it all though... !

<< Comment #119 @ 01:17 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

langley - Reply to #116

arktik, is that you??

<< Comment #132 @ 02:12 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #116

Cold war is over.

<< Comment #143 @ 03:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #116

I was a bit bummed about rapha losing to cooller in an extremly close match, it will be interesting to see the following matches, rapha, dahang, fox, av3k.

But if it's one player that I really think deserves a win it's fox.
But if he manages to win against av3k, I still can't see him winning over cooller. I think out of the two(fox and av3k), av3k has a better chance taking the win over cooller.
I just don't see fox making it to the finals :/

Hopefully he will prove me wrong :)

<< Comment #122 @ 01:23 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita

har, I was wondering why the term "relegation" was used, as the word sounds awkward and obscure to use for these qualification matches. after googling, however, i realized it's because I'm american that when used that way the word doesn't register in my lexicon :(

<< Comment #195 @ 09:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

clan519 - Reply to #122

No, you're still right. It's not really the right word. Relegate means to put someone in a lower category, like in soccer you get relegated to a lower league when you finish in the bottom 2 or 3.

I don't know why they just didn't call it a lower bracket, or why they didn't do a bracket at all.

<< Comment #382 @ 16:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

scowl - Reply to #195

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../rankings/

<< Comment #128 @ 02:07 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus

It's a bloody shame I can't get any time off for this tournament.
Really want to see todays matches...
Tomorrow my gf celebrates her bithday so I'm gonna miss the grandfinals too. Fuck:/
Luckily I got to see Cooller vs Rapha yesterday. Good stuff. It's a lot of back, but that's what happens when it's about a lot of bucks.
1 mistake and you've lost...

Fox vs Av3k. I hope fox, but I doubt he will beat Av3k. I'm afraid of Av3k vs Cooller in the semis.. as I expect Av3k to beat Cooller and allthough I like Av3ks playstyle I can't stand that guy anymore. So goooo fox :)

rapha vs dahang... wow.. tough call. Probably rapha will win this. he's so damn smart and hardly ever makes mistakes which makes him sooo hard to beat.

<< Comment #135 @ 02:47 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Warlock

Must say I'm rather dissapointed with 2GD's commentary so far. He seems to fool around and joke during games mostly, while he should be professional and give a professional commentary during the games. He gets payed for doing his job for a reason and people pay for the stream to have quality on video and shoutcasting.

Saying things like he having more skills than fatal1ty proves rather that his knowledge is more in his name than in the game.

I don't mind if he does the jokes before or after the games but please focus on the game while casting :/

And yes I can understand its tiresome having to shoutcast for long periods, but let's not use that as an excuse since alot of people have to speak nonstop like this for their 'real' job all the time.

I don't understand why they would show WoW on the video stream either. I played the game and from watching it on stream you can barely make out what is happening. It is far from spectator friendly and switching from a good QL game to WoW is just silly.

Hoping today and tomorrow will be better to make up for the bad coverage this event so far had.

Cheers,
wl

4%

<< Comment #139 @ 03:24 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #135

omfg when he stays 100% on topic u guys whine that ud rather listen to dj wheat and 2gd is like a walking encyclopedia of quake so he should chill a little cos his commentary is boring

but when he starts to joking its not good for u either

Edited by 7herm at 03:24 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #140 @ 03:24 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #135

No disrespect to 2gd, but I actually thought he was damn funny this time around. I never thought he to be funny before, these last days it looked to me he was suffering from lack of sleep or might be on drugs.
But I think he did a really good performance and a bit of that 'whatever' attitude which I think spiced up this tournament a lot considering what happened on wednesday.

Again, no offense there.

Edited by x1138 at 03:27 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #141 @ 03:25 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #135

perhaps because i am not a sports fan, and not prone to "professional" casting, I enjoy 2gds casting and the jokes. i have no standards for how proper commentary ought to be done i s'pose. on top of that you're talking about the quake community. fuck, the motto for spectating quake games mostly involves cum and spraying it... everywhere.

<< Comment #145 @ 04:02 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Warlock - Reply to #135

You're missing the point, I don't mind his jokes at all. He just did them too much while the games were realy exciting , close and heading to a climax. Doing jokes on this momentum just breaks the thrill it gives, atleast to me.

<< Comment #153 @ 04:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro - Reply to #135

weird thing is i usually focus much better on a game flow when 2gd is commentating.

but i do agree about his attitude. hes cockyness is as big as cooller's awsomness even if smartly wrapped in joking.

<< Comment #155 @ 05:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #135

2gd: single ray of light in this tournament, he is the only commentator who gives more information than I can gather by watching the game. in combination with esl.joe it becomes pure awesomeness somehow. and you gotta love those 'impersonations': mh is up and he is going to....no.... "i gotta need those 5 shards. they are way more important" ...yes...

compared to other casters he watches the respawn timers and can tell what the opponent is up to.

also he and slasher (in a negative manner, personally he's ok though :)))))), make me favor british english to american english. it was quite the contrary b4 watching/listening to those two...

that little touch of cockyness? fine with me, he played cooller in warmup and wasn't 2bad i guess. normally i don't like it either, but it just fits somehow and it usually happens only once per week or so:))))))))

cooller's performance v. rapha was also a ray of light ofc

Edited by t1e at 05:19 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #142 @ 03:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu

2gd <3

<< Comment #146 @ 04:05 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dansen

yesterday i enjoyed carmacs commentary way more so than 2gds..

carmac actually did his homework and was able to offer alot of background information and random trivia about every player.

and also he gave the casting a very professional appearance.

when 2gd came on and started being witty again... well.. i'm not going to hate on 2gd, because i do think he's the right person for the job.
but he isn't motivated enough, and thinks people are satisfied when he sits down and doesn't stop talking...

Edited by dansen at 04:05 CST, 5 March 2010

2%

<< Comment #148 @ 04:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Warlock - Reply to #146

agree

<< Comment #173 @ 08:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash] - Reply to #146

i think it's because he has to cast WoW all the time.

hi 2gd! :D

<< Comment #147 @ 04:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

why do I get a "ESR is currently down" a lot of times recently?

Is Cooller trying to log in and the server cant handle the awsomness?

<< Comment #162 @ 05:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

^AME- - Reply to #147

it's griffins mum

<< Comment #166 @ 06:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #162

milf

<< Comment #149 @ 04:24 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JDMYO

Cooller Cypher final will be epic!!! Wouldn't know which way it would go. Coollers locking down maps for fun on item control and Cyphers agility is off the scale! :)

<< Comment #150 @ 04:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yeo

i want to see rapha vs cooler in the final

and dahang/cypher 3rd

<< Comment #151 @ 04:41 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

GUArd - Reply to #150

sorry, cypher to strong :)

<< Comment #158 @ 05:39 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou

Added the Groups rankings, it seems many of you have issues understanding them.

<< Comment #160 @ 05:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #158

still doesnt make sense to me. ....gj

<< Comment #165 @ 06:07 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #160

What's so hard to understand? Should I add the rankings rules?

<< Comment #168 @ 06:28 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion - Reply to #165

yes please and comment on the difficult to understand parts :)

<< Comment #607 @ 10:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #168

Here they are:
1. Overall points
2. Points among tied participants
3. Map difference among tied participants
4. Number of won maps among tied participants
5. Overall map difference
6. Overall number of won maps
7. return to 2. (in case the number of tied participants has been reduced by criteria 3-6)

Only steps 1 & 2 were necessary in this case.

<< Comment #169 @ 08:51 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lolvc

i want to be there :( instead i'm sat here with orange juice :(

<< Comment #189 @ 08:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lolvc - Reply to #169

I'm level 47 in modern warfare 2!

Although i'd probably say level 9000 as valkyrie.

<< Comment #303 @ 11:05 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #189

pc version?

<< Comment #171 @ 08:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

DAHANG !???!!!?! you poor man

<< Comment #172 @ 08:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

Has anyone noticed that since coolller and chyper took first place in their groups,there hasnt been one word/comment about the 10minute TL :)))

odd

<< Comment #208 @ 09:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (95.71.dyn.lse.ac.uk) - Reply to #172

10 minute time limit is still retarded...

<< Comment #174 @ 08:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kRoNic-

2gd telling slasher to die was the highlight of the tournament.

<< Comment #175 @ 08:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

squishy

JAY AND JOE AWESOMENESS!

<< Comment #176 @ 08:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

madbringer

TWOGOOD CAN'T QUIT IF HE DOES I WILL TRACK HIM DOWN AND KILL IN ASS WITH TUNAS

<< Comment #177 @ 08:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs

what's up with the slasher hate? really unprofessional and just plain mean, especially after how he helped out on the first day :(((

<< Comment #178 @ 08:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Inane

JOE WE LOVE YOU TOO.

<< Comment #179 @ 08:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy

Joe is lovely

<< Comment #180 @ 08:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

antroz

I like you Joe - get 2GD to come play QQC/ENC for uk! You can play too!

<< Comment #181 @ 08:56 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yank3

AV3KBESTPLAYER

<< Comment #182 @ 08:56 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kevz

look. a comment, now u have smt to read 2gd

<< Comment #183 @ 08:56 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Six16

I like Jay's laid back commentating, its funnier!

<< Comment #839 @ 03:23 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dansen - Reply to #183

joe's the laid back guy!!!

Edited by dansen at 03:24 CST, 8 March 2010

<< Comment #184 @ 08:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

squishy

JOE > JAY

<< Comment #185 @ 08:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SenT!neL

don't leave 2GD :(

<< Comment #186 @ 08:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

abso

no wow today ??? C'mon :(((

<< Comment #187 @ 08:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

squishy

Lol at 2gd claiming to be ultimate gamer, looks like jamerio has got some competition!

<< Comment #188 @ 08:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

madbringer

LUKE AND DENNIS > JOE AND JAMES

<< Comment #190 @ 08:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

Xou was getting owned by 2GD earlier on Ztn :P He ragequit when James RJ'ed up to that ledge

2GD & Joe <3

<< Comment #209 @ 09:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

80k

2GD & Joe = teh best commentary with proper game and player knowledge.

<< Comment #267 @ 10:01 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JoKa - Reply to #209

Second that

<< Comment #193 @ 09:02 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt

demos of rapha vs dahang up:
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann...h/17484210

<< Comment #202 @ 09:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #193

Was that game shown at http://esl-radio.de/features/videos/shooter-videostream/ ???

Been there for an hour and im only seeing cypher/dkt, cypher/strenx, wazzuppppppp???

RAGEEEEEEEEEEEE

<< Comment #203 @ 09:20 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #202

we're running it on the B stream on the tv.esl.eu website

<< Comment #260 @ 09:56 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #203

Oh noes so everybody with octoshit issues was left out in the cold. Dont you think its very lame to provide a working stream yesterday on that link, and killing it the next?

<< Comment #296 @ 10:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #260

i think esl radio were running that one up with their own resources as far as i know, they are not members of our staff but on-line volunteers

Edited by SpUt at 10:44 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #324 @ 12:40 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #296

Thanks for explaining, but : / anyway

<< Comment #199 @ 09:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

fox :(

<< Comment #210 @ 09:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed - Reply to #199

fox :(

<< Comment #223 @ 09:35 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz - Reply to #210

avek :)

<< Comment #241 @ 09:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

funnyb - Reply to #223

poland :(

<< Comment #242 @ 09:44 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz - Reply to #241

sweden :(

<< Comment #293 @ 10:41 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Mitritch - Reply to #242

RUSSIA!!!!

<< Comment #308 @ 11:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #293

DAAAAAAAAA!!

<< Comment #201 @ 09:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita

shucks ;( poor fox. av3k is damn sharp though, very few mistakes and solid aim

<< Comment #207 @ 09:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (190.144.163.86)

avek fox buffering each 4 seconds what a fucking piece of shit stream

<< Comment #206 @ 09:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gyr0

The 4 remaining players are clearly the 4 best ones when they actually care about winning.

<< Comment #212 @ 09:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata

esr alltime down
cool shoutcast

<< Comment #213 @ 09:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

fanfreluche

Amazing movement skills by fox in that relegation match.
He stayed true to himself in good post group choking fashion...

<< Comment #851 @ 06:34 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #213

About what you wrote on the eslradio stream the other day :

bit of karma, eh?

http://www.cio.de/news/cio_worldnews/2227051/ ;)

<< Comment #854 @ 12:10 CST, 10 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

fanfreluche - Reply to #851

The wheel turns my friend, the wheel turns.
However take this news with a grain of salt. I have seen blueprints of what they have in mind and let me assure you this DRM shit is the least of your worries.
In the not too distant future, the entire concept of owning a console will be gone according to their view *( Guillemot brothers from Ubisoft )*
Services similiar to Onlive is what they are pushing for during meetings and all the equipement we are buying leads me to believe it's kinda true....

Even quakelive is like that when you think about it :)

Edited by Freelance_ at 12:12 CST, 10 March 2010

<< Comment #214 @ 09:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast

ninjasneeezzeeee!

<< Comment #217 @ 09:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yank3

cool, esr-tv

<< Comment #216 @ 09:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ischju

haha that ninjasneeezzeeee was really epic >D

3%

<< Comment #218 @ 09:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

avek > cooller
rapha > cypher

rage coming up.

2%

<< Comment #219 @ 09:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

.syL

omg we're on tv hi mommy!

<< Comment #220 @ 09:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

btl

Best thing about today was the story about Cypher leaving fnatic (?) for Serious Gaming because fnatic didn't pick him up at the airport in France.

<< Comment #228 @ 09:37 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #220

yeah cypher sitting in middle of a roundabout eating a cheeseburger while sam got drunk under the eiffeltower XD

<< Comment #405 @ 19:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #228

haha yeah, that was a brilliant story. fnatic lost out on a world champ cause sam got boozed up :D

<< Comment #408 @ 20:08 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ralph - Reply to #220

ahahahaha

<< Comment #410 @ 20:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #220

btw I think Carmac provided on 2nd day with a funny story on how av3k took a trip to lan in USA and almost finished in Tokyo haha...

<< Comment #486 @ 04:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #410

yeah indeed that was good too :D

<< Comment #221 @ 09:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

QuakeLiveTV

2gd, please give equal-opportunity plugs for various shoutcasting crews. :P

<< Comment #222 @ 09:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

GG Fox! It was fun watching you reach all the way to this point.

<< Comment #224 @ 09:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stafu

2gd and Joe > *

Casting has been awesome the last 2 days, so awesome that you've made up for the absolute fail that was the first day. :p

<< Comment #225 @ 09:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xCal

Cypher will win the whole tournament no doubt. even if cooller goes "DAA" mode..

<< Comment #226 @ 09:37 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

swine

ninja sneeze <o/

<< Comment #227 @ 09:37 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt

fox vs av3k demos up:
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../17484209/

<< Comment #239 @ 09:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (p671d6d.tkyoea16.ap.so-net.ne.jp)

Like 2gd and joe! A big thumbs up!

Don't take a year of! Continue to give us expert casts!

<< Comment #238 @ 09:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mobish

I want to have 2gd and joes baby :$

<< Comment #243 @ 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c - Reply to #238

Ahh..so you're the other guy who's been tweeting off late :P

Edited by Cyn1c at 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #340 @ 13:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mobish - Reply to #243

teehee yup

<< Comment #231 @ 09:38 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lizahd

this fox was great to watch, he should switch his style and play this on a "serious" base.

quakecon needs some upsets tho, this time k, but any further tourneys wheres everything is shared between rapha av3k cooler cypher,, no thx :P

<< Comment #229 @ 09:38 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

_agu

give her a BIGODE

<< Comment #230 @ 09:38 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CAREEM

cypher will win rapha and av3k will win cooller

final: av3k vs cypher 2:3 for Cypher

<< Comment #233 @ 09:39 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

madbringer

I'd like to take this moment and thank 2gd and Joe for destroying my internet credibility by exposing me as Carmac's fake account. :(

<< Comment #234 @ 09:39 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

netrex

The part after the matches was the best part of the stream :P Clearly.

<< Comment #235 @ 09:40 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

Thank you ESL..I took 2 days off for this and it was totally worth the time.

<< Comment #237 @ 09:41 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

QuakeLiveTV

Thank you 2gd, thank you ESL for the awesome coverage. Loved every second.

<< Comment #281 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

chubz

why no vod's of stream B? or I can't find them ...

<< Comment #240 @ 09:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

LukKe

lmao @ commented picture browsing

<< Comment #244 @ 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Aquashark '

leave 2GD alone!! (he's amazing compared to 'nice prediction rail' from the past)

Edited by Aquashark at 09:47 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #245 @ 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

DOLLAPMAH

Best commentating ever!!!11

<< Comment #246 @ 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

killat0n

Have some eliminated players play again. And you guys cast it for us :D

<< Comment #247 @ 09:46 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Inane

No one ever answered my question about the rims on that VW...

<< Comment #248 @ 09:47 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro

jay, joe, tell xou to cash our bets.

<< Comment #249 @ 09:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E '

open a server. community gather

<< Comment #250 @ 09:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Six16

Jay and Joe should have a talk show like digg nation, this is funny :)

<< Comment #280 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (dslb-094-223-088-136.pools.arcor-ip.net)

http://www.tek-9.org/articles/tek9_quakelive_..._10-1.html

check out how accurate this top 10 is. shame the SE-Bracket doesnt allow for it to be 100% precise : >

<< Comment #416 @ 00:48 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JoKa - Reply to #280

fox > DaHanG though :>

<< Comment #279 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (78-73-120-155-no162.tbcn.telia.com)

dont doit!

<< Comment #251 @ 09:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

lol..hi Mandy!

<< Comment #252 @ 09:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu

XDDDD

<< Comment #254 @ 09:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob

LOTS OF EXCITEMENT!!!

<< Comment #255 @ 09:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm

2GD is like a Jeremy Clarskon of gaming

12%

<< Comment #258 @ 09:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu - Reply to #255

totaly :)

<< Comment #360 @ 14:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #255

you deserve a [+] for this, fellow pole

<< Comment #256 @ 09:54 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

netrex

Hehe, I might be tired, I've been LOLing of this like crazy :P

<< Comment #278 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (p57B755AA.dip.t-dialin.net)

quake commentators + cs = awesomeness

<< Comment #257 @ 09:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

deffo too much effort for a beard. dun get those guys. :(

<< Comment #259 @ 09:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob - Reply to #257

Looks a little bit drawn on :<

<< Comment #261 @ 09:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

puritan '

rofl @ translation

<< Comment #262 @ 09:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob

Rofl

holds his microphone like a right fag

<< Comment #263 @ 09:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JoKa

Love you Joe and James :P

<< Comment #264 @ 09:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

swine

James and Joe are owning shit out of teh yermans :D

<< Comment #265 @ 09:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob

I got lots of camera time! =)

<< Comment #277 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (lan-84-240-32-98.vln.skynet.lt)

James and Joe rocks ;d

<< Comment #266 @ 10:00 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

y insult me, james? y?

<< Comment #268 @ 10:01 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

brumu

why arent there any vods ? :<

<< Comment #269 @ 10:01 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

QuakeLiveTV

BEST STREAM SIGNOFF EVER!

<< Comment #270 @ 10:02 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

2GD

That "F U Slasher" that you managed to squeeze in before the stream went off was epic!

<< Comment #271 @ 10:02 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Inane

Haha best signoff ever.. <3 Joe&2gd

<< Comment #276 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (dslb-088-074-012-069.pools.arcor-ip.net)

great commentary, really fun to watch

<< Comment #272 @ 10:04 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Spyyder

lololol awesome signoff. <3 2gd

<< Comment #275 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (p548F8884.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)

Man, I love the English IEM stream so much. I'm from Germany actually, but the English stream is so hilarious and interesting at th same time, I'm tuning in just for you guys and even watch WoW :D

<< Comment #315 @ 11:49 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #275

You're German?

<< Comment #273 @ 10:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

rofl @ 2gd and joe

faking awesome

<< Comment #274 @ 10:08 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

caesar_

clear top 4 in the world

<< Comment #282 @ 10:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Slasher

SERIOUSLY?

4%

<< Comment #283 @ 10:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #282

fu slasher

<< Comment #307 @ 11:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #282

<3

<< Comment #284 @ 10:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JoKa

Please, please ESL, make a VoD of all that awesomeness :D

<< Comment #285 @ 10:19 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wocK_

9am gmt for the finals?

delays pls

<< Comment #286 @ 10:21 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TAFKAagardenchair

rapha will win because cooller always parties on fridays

<< Comment #288 @ 10:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #286

rapha beats cypher cause cooller parties on fridays?

<< Comment #289 @ 10:30 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TAFKAagardenchair - Reply to #288

YEAH

<< Comment #290 @ 10:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #289

IT DOES MAKE SENSE

<< Comment #298 @ 10:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

garz - Reply to #290

strenx parties on fridays

<< Comment #287 @ 10:25 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

obi

More of the girl in the yellow latex plz.

<< Comment #306 @ 11:14 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TAFKAagardenchair - Reply to #287

pvc but let's not get technical

<< Comment #311 @ 11:24 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carsomyr - Reply to #287

Tacky.

<< Comment #291 @ 10:31 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Mav_

Missed the signoff. Could someone please explain what happened exactly? Or did anyone recorded? :/

<< Comment #292 @ 10:34 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Slasher - Reply to #291

tldr; "Fuck you Slasher"

2%

<< Comment #295 @ 10:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu - Reply to #292

:(

<< Comment #301 @ 10:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

garz - Reply to #292

and this is ok for you? why does he say that?

<< Comment #297 @ 10:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hobbes8548 - Reply to #291

To elaborate basically 2GD and Joe argued for a few minutes on what to do for the signoff and they agreed they would countdown to 3 and both say "bye" as the volume fades to silence. When it came time, Joe said "bye" and 2GD said "fuck you slasher!" to fade. EPIC!

5%

<< Comment #299 @ 10:54 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #297

It's funny in anyway, but i'm clueless if this is just joking around with slasher which I think, or do they really dislike slasher which I doubt :)

<< Comment #309 @ 11:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #299

slasher jumped in and saved us from watching 2GD cast WoW, so they gotta hate him ;P

<< Comment #310 @ 11:21 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Heartlesss - Reply to #299

joking

<< Comment #322 @ 12:20 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Slasher - Reply to #299

50/50 :)

<< Comment #294 @ 10:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius

what was so great about the stream/shoutcast? I couldn't follow it

<< Comment #300 @ 10:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4

Why the hell there are vods of cs and wow but no quakelive?

<< Comment #304 @ 11:07 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird

what idiot chose the term 'relegation' for what is playoff matches

6%

<< Comment #314 @ 11:49 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #304

German

<< Comment #361 @ 14:37 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #304

we are not actually using that term any more, but it stuck with some people.

<< Comment #305 @ 11:10 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary

oh i miss spartie so much :'(
hey if u see this, FCKING DO WELL AT QCON!!

<< Comment #318 @ 11:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

veed

av3k vs cypher in the final

<< Comment #319 @ 12:04 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RMS

Funny that commentating is much more discussed here than the games

<< Comment #331 @ 12:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #319

Well, the games weren't extremely interesting tbh.

<< Comment #320 @ 12:05 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary

avek interview after quarter, some info
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/228783-avek

3%

<< Comment #323 @ 12:21 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary - Reply to #320

after watching it, i do think people should check this out, at least for polish metaphor about cellphone and shoes :D
"friendship is about forgiveness"
"if people really enjoy cyph games, then they shouldnt blame him on anything , cause itll harm him really much "

Edited by incendiary at 12:44 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #347 @ 13:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #323

he was trying to explain that metaphor real hard for 5minutes,no luck :D

But he does a nicer person then what that previous interview portrayed

<< Comment #349 @ 13:33 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #347

Everyone can come across as a cunt or a nice guy when they try :)

<< Comment #350 @ 13:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #349

true :)

<< Comment #326 @ 12:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio - Reply to #320

Nice interview! Props Av3k!

Edited by Carpio at 12:54 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #328 @ 12:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz - Reply to #320

avek <3

<< Comment #334 @ 13:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #320

LMAO that's the worst metaphor ever.

Tells you everything you need to know about Poland...

<< Comment #336 @ 13:13 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #334

p.s. Who's mad?

I mean, getting mad over the restart is pretty stupid since it was QLR/Admins and av3k's fault and the interview was just funny surely?

And getting mad over interviews is a bit silly no? Strenx/av3k esr rage was hilarious.

<< Comment #358 @ 14:04 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kaide - Reply to #320

that was full of win <3

<< Comment #362 @ 14:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #320

he failed at explaining that "metaphor" cos it wasnt a metaphor he just tried to look gangsta lol

BUT

after this one interview i believe again hes a very cool guy and what he said before was a big mistake

its a polish kids thing to try looking tough

he probably saw a guy dealing some cheap drugs on his street and felt like in a movie or whatever- getto avek

anyways

GOOOOO AVEKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #369 @ 15:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #362

its so easy to manipulate our emotions it seems :))

<< Comment #393 @ 17:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #369

yeah

if he pisses me off again im gonna ass rape him and cut his head off

<< Comment #399 @ 18:51 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #393

rofl

<< Comment #403 @ 19:03 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ia - Reply to #393

And take his shoes.

<< Comment #374 @ 15:17 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #362

GHETTO AV3K

DAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

<< Comment #321 @ 12:11 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

twister

are there any vods coming up?
on iem europe they were up few hours after the games..

<< Comment #325 @ 12:49 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

MindTheGap

CONFIGS plzzzz

<< Comment #333 @ 13:00 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ischju

i jizzed in my pants when i heard that joe and 2gd are having a baby.

<< Comment #335 @ 13:09 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

Apparently, Av3k is not the only one who has something to say about cooller :)

rapha: "cooller has the best dodging"

Read the complete thing here along with video:

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/28690-rapha_...st_dodging

<< Comment #337 @ 13:13 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #335

Rapha has great insight, I've never heard anyone say that about cooller before :(

<< Comment #411 @ 20:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

judge717 - Reply to #337

that's surprising. I've always considered cooller to be a god at dodging in fights. I learned a lot of my dodging skills from watching his demos. World class player!

<< Comment #421 @ 02:33 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wrl - Reply to #411

heh

<< Comment #846 @ 03:01 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ischju - Reply to #337

Don't you remember the story about Coller knowing the amount of rockets Av3k had left during one of the games at Carmacks house? I jizzed in my pants. He counts your rocket man. I wonder what else he does. :P

<< Comment #343 @ 13:21 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ischju - Reply to #335

It's true. I've seen Cooller dodge. :p

<< Comment #346 @ 13:32 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

.syL - Reply to #343

I haven't. That's how good he is

<< Comment #356 @ 13:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion - Reply to #335

Cooller is in your game...dodging your rockitz

<< Comment #357 @ 13:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #335

rockets dodge cooller!

7%

<< Comment #364 @ 14:49 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #335

As in Cooller The Rocket-Dodger?
Why do they call him The Rocket-Dodger?
Because he dodges rockets, Avi.

<< Comment #365 @ 14:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CraneSec - Reply to #335

The lighting in that video makes it look like a confessional ...

Bless me Father, for I have sinned.

:D

<< Comment #342 @ 13:19 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dynamix

As much as I hate to say it, I don't think Cooller can beat Av3k again.

;(

<< Comment #353 @ 13:47 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #342

Just the other day I read a job ad requiring a "can do" attitude from the prospective applicant. To some people, it apparently makes a whole lot of a difference.

<< Comment #371 @ 15:07 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #342

Oh ye of little faith.

<< Comment #345 @ 13:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

donka '

C-O-o-L-L-E-R-C-O-o-L-L-E-R
��.��[]
�.Q��./��^��\
.QLR===��..[]\
�.R�..�\..>>===>�...)
��\_________/====D
��|�..|
��......\��-/

15%

<< Comment #367 @ 14:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CraneSec - Reply to #345

What's with the horsedick on the CoollerCopter ?

oh wait, it all makes sense !

<< Comment #370 @ 15:06 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

donka ' - Reply to #367

that's where the lemonade is made
sweet lemonade
mmm sweet lemonade

13%

<< Comment #392 @ 17:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #370

splendid

<< Comment #414 @ 22:20 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

calleking - Reply to #392

do you think so?

<< Comment #404 @ 19:08 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aiken - Reply to #345

C-O-o-L-L-E-R-C-O-o-L-L-E-R
��.��[]
�.Q��./��^��\
.QLR===��..[]\
�.R�..�\..>>===>�...)
��\_________/====DAAAA!
��|�..|
��......\��-/

fixed!

<< Comment #359 @ 14:27 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

supersexyleetmegaruler

hate to repeat myself but COOLLER FOR MUTHA RUSSIA GREAT JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5%

<< Comment #366 @ 14:52 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #359

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"�$%�$^!&&*

<< Comment #363 @ 14:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lejoon

The Americans suck.

Cyphers innate skill > +back.

<< Comment #728 @ 17:06 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #363

mm how those words taste?

2%

<< Comment #368 @ 15:05 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stingerrayer

VODs!!!

<< Comment #372 @ 15:14 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dOLe - Reply to #368

"ESL TV is going to upload all Stream B VoDs next week" - http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hannover/news/117102/

<< Comment #373 @ 15:15 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

twister - Reply to #372

weren't todays games on the A stream?

<< Comment #377 @ 15:59 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #373

no, B

<< Comment #406 @ 19:50 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tmunnich - Reply to #372

Next week? Sooo, educated guess, next week Friday? Basically a week after the tournament? What crock of fucking shit. This isn't fucking 2003 anymore. You're doing ESPORTS. Fucking esports. Where progressive ways of content management should be the norm not the fucking exception. How these things aren't instantaneous is beyond me. Really. How can you expect esports to grow, how can you keep attracting sponsors/investors if you can't even fucking tie your shoes.

<< Comment #419 @ 02:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #406

Because the videos are being edited first obviously and have to be uploaded to the website.
Next week means: after the person who creates the VODs arrives home and goes to work for the first time after the event (likely to be Tuesday or Wednesday).

<< Comment #422 @ 02:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #372

This is kinda wtf reason for such a big delay. European Championship was in Cologne completely, and vods were uploaded very propmtly from there.

<< Comment #378 @ 16:12 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler

An american airline pilot earns around 20 000$ a year,thats why half for first place seems quite nice if you ask me :)

Edited by r1ddler at 16:17 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #379 @ 16:22 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #378

it's far too little overall. it should be possible for at least the 10 top players to earn a good living off of their games. currently we are far from that

<< Comment #398 @ 18:49 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #379

true,top10 should be getting 20k$ per year minimum

<< Comment #380 @ 16:23 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vamp1re - Reply to #378

A first year pilot may earn that little, I'm sure a captain earns somewhere between $100,000 to $400,000 a year.

<< Comment #400 @ 18:55 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #380

I sure hope your right :D

<< Comment #420 @ 02:27 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt - Reply to #380

lufthansa captains earn around �60000 in their first years, veteran pilots may have up to like �250000 anually (if they start their pilot training at lufthansa they will have to cough up around 60k for the pilot training there though first)

<< Comment #381 @ 16:29 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #378

i all of a sudden don't trust pilots anymore.. a door greeter at walmart can nearly make that much

<< Comment #383 @ 16:36 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #378

lol no way they earn 20.000$ a year, maybe when they're trialing or something, cos that's hardly any money

<< Comment #388 @ 17:11 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #378

I think you got the currency wrong, and american airline pilot makes in general over $70 000.

<< Comment #394 @ 18:10 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

frs - Reply to #378

yeah i dont know how reliable moore's new movie is but there was a part about the ripping off of airline pilots going on in america, basicly what it said was that most pilots have to work 2nd jobs to live :) this one woman they interviewed was actually a waitress as a second job, and it paid more than the flying :)

<< Comment #397 @ 18:48 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #394

yep,saw the documentary a week or so ago,thats why i said what i said :D I am sure tho,that the vast majority of airline pilots still gets decent enough pay,i mean 20k $ is wallmart cleaner money

<< Comment #413 @ 22:18 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

calleking - Reply to #378

those numbers can be correct if they're getting type rating from the company - which pretty much is a requirement these days. Anyhow, the income raises alot after the first years.

<< Comment #523 @ 09:12 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lejoon - Reply to #378

I earn more than that a year from my part time job, and I'm a student.

<< Comment #384 @ 16:43 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JDMYO

Prizes should be alot higher, but its good to see these guys duke it out for more or less pride alone. Thats very respectable. These prizes really should have at least 5 "0"s on the cheque.

<< Comment #385 @ 16:53 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JDMYO - Reply to #384

If Cooller wins this and 'isn't' set for life with whatever happens after then there's something wrong and I will start a charity marathon run - Cooller Aid.

<< Comment #389 @ 17:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (bas5-toronto01-1177868615.dsl.bell.ca)

I really, really like Rapha as a quake player. The guy doesn't have godly aim, but just makes up for it in so many ways, really fucking smart player.

He is just like cooller, without the great quotes or the excuses.

Rapha > zero4 personality wise.

#1 Euro Cooller
#1 American Rapha

*cypher is awesome, but too much ego sometimes..

<< Comment #395 @ 18:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

grimbob - Reply to #389

Rapha............personality...........hahahahahaha.

<< Comment #409 @ 20:27 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yikes - Reply to #389

Without ZeRo4 there wouldn't be a Rapha.

ZeRo4 > Rapha

<< Comment #387 @ 17:07 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

I really miss the pimp

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/63772-Im_Blizzard

<< Comment #401 @ 18:58 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #387

gore has blue underwear and is better then blizzard :P

<< Comment #396 @ 18:42 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf '

lol rapha must be the only player so far that didn't bitch about bad luck.

edit: just watched av3k interview, good fella... nice metaphor, became a new meme :D

Edited by night` at 19:04 CST, 5 March 2010

<< Comment #402 @ 19:01 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #396

the word luck is not in the bible

.

:)

<< Comment #407 @ 19:57 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c

All these interviews and demo links etc. demand much more. Why's ESR not on twitter? I do see Son1dow, myself, Mobisher, starswitchback and perpetual_war.

<< Comment #412 @ 21:16 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #407

esr.twitter

<< Comment #418 @ 01:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Aquashark ' - Reply to #412

twitter doesn't crash every 5 minutes smartguy

<< Comment #640 @ 11:05 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #418

And what would you put on an esr twitter?
"sites down again oops"?

Not like the ESL webpage has the stream, results and so on is it?

<< Comment #415 @ 22:44 CST, 5 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Liefje

fixtures for final games please!! :X

<< Comment #417 @ 00:58 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Inane - Reply to #415

This.

<< Comment #429 @ 03:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (80.152.96.195) - Reply to #415

Cant login on ESR from cebit, feel free to ask the other admins as the ones I asked dont give a damn.

All games will be played on stage today. That means they will be on EST TV A.

xou

<< Comment #649 @ 11:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #429

didn't manage to say hi at the event, you looked kinda busy :/

so: Hi.

<< Comment #736 @ 17:37 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Nukm - Reply to #649

you actually were there? we should have organized an esr meeting :(

<< Comment #774 @ 04:24 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #736

uh?

I actually told Jay to announce us on the stream which he did at around 10. And I held up the "Esreality meet" sign, that unhuman made, from time to time.

<< Comment #779 @ 05:30 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

unihumi - Reply to #774

Nukm wasn't at the venue by that time (which was around 10am)

<< Comment #811 @ 11:25 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #779

oh.

so it's all his fault then?

<< Comment #813 @ 11:38 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TronicGgG ' - Reply to #811

I think Nukm and n1ghty even sat in the row behind us. :D

<< Comment #428 @ 03:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tzifff

get ready to spray folks :D

<< Comment #431 @ 03:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crack - Reply to #428

COOLLER!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #423 @ 02:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crack

"we'll continue with WOW after the commercial break"

WTF?

*edit* nevermind

Edited by crack at 03:02 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #427 @ 03:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

szrek

it should start in like five mins or am I mistaken ?

<< Comment #424 @ 02:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

cooller's probably gonna lose to avek in playoffs.

shit first spawn as always, avek running away with 5 hp 20 times in a row etc. the usual.

<< Comment #425 @ 03:02 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz - Reply to #424

NO LUCK :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

<< Comment #430 @ 03:10 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #425

misfortune!

<< Comment #426 @ 03:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dingabagi

coollers gonna win this tournament for sure

<< Comment #432 @ 03:12 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Durgstyler

I love you 2gd!

almost as much as cooller...

Edited by Durgstyler at 03:14 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #433 @ 03:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gk_nz

Nice respect the paco sign in the crowd :P

<< Comment #660 @ 11:27 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #433

thank unhuman

<< Comment #434 @ 03:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

davis

Whoever has the Gaunt award shirt, made me lol :]

<< Comment #663 @ 11:33 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

extaleR - Reply to #434

memento_mori :) hi to u :)

<< Comment #710 @ 15:31 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kan1 - Reply to #663

it was me :) memento_mori sat two seats next to me

<< Comment #712 @ 15:34 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

extaleR - Reply to #710

ups, sry :D but he weared the same tshirt too on wednesday :)

<< Comment #812 @ 11:35 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TronicGgG ' - Reply to #712

extaler, you should have been on the finals. you could have helped holding some signs. =) not to mention the atmosphere...

<< Comment #832 @ 13:35 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

extaleR - Reply to #812

:(((( how could i miss the final. verdammt :/

<< Comment #435 @ 03:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

I set up an alarm to wake up on the weekend just to watch Cooller winning !!!!!

<< Comment #436 @ 03:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

exp!

RESPECT THE PACO

esr > *

<< Comment #662 @ 11:27 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (p57AD4237.dip.t-dialin.net)

It's a freaking joke to start the games at 10:00 CET. I doubt any of the players will be in good shape this early in the morning.....theres not really time to warm up or anything.

<< Comment #437 @ 03:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

.syL

plz look more polish avek

9%

<< Comment #452 @ 03:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz - Reply to #437

sure he doesnt look like this guy giving awards :(

<< Comment #438 @ 03:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Mitritch

gangsta avek :)

<< Comment #439 @ 03:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dingabagi

lol @ av3ks stare at the camera

<< Comment #440 @ 03:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yank3

av3kbestplayer NO ALCOHOL; ITS DAMN EARLY

<< Comment #441 @ 03:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

smari

OMG what a stupid award!
coolller himself said he made it because of friendship not sportsmanship and both players regret it by now...

<< Comment #448 @ 03:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gk_nz - Reply to #441

Yeah definitely agree, a bit lame :)

<< Comment #443 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yank3

LOL

<< Comment #442 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

Fair play award for the best !!!!!

<< Comment #444 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus

Fairplayaward for Cooller :D

Edited by Kwibus at 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #445 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lewl

lolololololol a prize for sportsmanship......

<< Comment #659 @ 11:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

szrek

lololololol sportsmenship award way to fire up the drama gj carmac :D

<< Comment #446 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Durgstyler

that award was amazing! i just got my job back and ill attend a QL event anywhere in near futur.. LUCKY ME!!!!

<< Comment #447 @ 03:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

CHECK THE TIMER PLS

<< Comment #449 @ 03:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ani

Go Cypher n Av3k \o/

<< Comment #450 @ 03:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crack

20 ping for both :/

<< Comment #451 @ 03:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Durgstyler

Fat back to quake is like when M Jordan tried base ball. wendel can ... not.. fail.

i know that he does the total right ... 11"!22

Edited by Durgstyler at 03:28 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #453 @ 03:32 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

j0sh_ - Reply to #451

comeback?

<< Comment #658 @ 11:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (AMarseille-553-1-215-114.w92-153.abo.wanadoo.fr)

in-game sounds too low ! ty

<< Comment #454 @ 03:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

OMG nice....if22 would be proud !

<< Comment #455 @ 03:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ROCKETS

<< Comment #456 @ 03:37 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu

OMGGGG

<< Comment #457 @ 03:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz

nice +back cooller

<< Comment #469 @ 03:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu - Reply to #457

1hp , no luck just skill :OOO

<< Comment #458 @ 03:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus

Yeeeessss 1-0

<< Comment #476 @ 03:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #458

noooo 1-1

<< Comment #459 @ 03:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

LukKe

what a t7 by cooller .. :O

<< Comment #460 @ 03:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CraneSec

Cooller winning t7 ? oO

Seriously ?

<< Comment #462 @ 03:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gyr0

Get a couple of frags, +back with rl for the rest of the game even though your opponent takes all the armors. Cooller learned from the best (rapha).

QL is great

<< Comment #465 @ 03:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #462

nah, rapha learned from the best

<< Comment #461 @ 03:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

nineX

Cooller first map of semis: best +back I've ever seen. $$$$$

<< Comment #463 @ 03:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wrong person

yeeeeah one:zero =)

<< Comment #464 @ 03:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tifu

nice t7

<< Comment #466 @ 03:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius

close game on t7, but man, compared to rapha & dahang, they really suck on this map

<< Comment #467 @ 03:42 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SenT!neL

LOL

<< Comment #468 @ 03:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH 1hp cooller no luck

<< Comment #470 @ 03:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gk_nz

omfg come back on dm6 :)

<< Comment #471 @ 03:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lewl

cooller is so beautiful

<< Comment #472 @ 03:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CraneSec

ALLTIMES BEST

<< Comment #473 @ 03:52 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

fat kids shouldnt be televised.....

<< Comment #474 @ 03:52 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Six16

aweful spawn on dm6 for cooller, dm6 is shite :(

13%

<< Comment #477 @ 03:54 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Zeta - Reply to #474

yeah that was really a joke spawn..

<< Comment #480 @ 03:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Mitritch - Reply to #474

He still could run towards RA, not rushing to LG, so spawn is ok.

<< Comment #482 @ 03:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #474

the most shittest spawn in the whole game

<< Comment #475 @ 03:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr

fuck. cooller is amazing when he's not in control. even though he lost dm6, some of the plays were brilliant.

<< Comment #478 @ 03:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

annihiluzz

what they r typing?

<< Comment #479 @ 03:56 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf '

nice dm6 game from both of em, still... gotta be impressed with how av3k just took back control from cooller. was like playing people on pub. but yeah, considering that cooller had control for maybe 1-2 minutes he pulled off an amazing game as well.

<< Comment #484 @ 03:59 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #479

an when the cooller was in control i didnt notice? one ra =/= control

<< Comment #481 @ 03:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

smari

cooller being an idiot :/

<< Comment #483 @ 03:58 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tifu

mind games from avek?!?

<< Comment #485 @ 03:59 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dingabagi

what are they talking about on the warmup now? i dont have sound and no premium so cant read..please tell smbdy

<< Comment #487 @ 04:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

CraneSec

Cooller stop looking at the camera !

<< Comment #488 @ 04:10 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr

OH MY FUCKING GOD
IT'S SO FUCKING AWESOME
I'M SPRAING EVERYWHEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

<< Comment #489 @ 04:10 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wrong person

OMG!!! t9... omg...

<< Comment #490 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

i lose 5lbs during every cooller match.

<< Comment #491 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius

probably the most exciting t9 I've ever seen

<< Comment #493 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

aRidion

uh I am freezing...its getting Cooller and Cooller in here !

1%

<< Comment #492 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

crack

one of the best t9 games i've ever seen

<< Comment #657 @ 11:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (AMarseille-553-1-215-114.w92-153.abo.wanadoo.fr)

suicide by av3k to close t9 o0

thxcya

<< Comment #494 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kerchu

HOLYSHIIIIIIT

<< Comment #656 @ 11:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gero

T9 T9 T9 T9

<< Comment #495 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf '

omfg. best. t9. ever.

<< Comment #496 @ 04:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SenT!neL

intense!

<< Comment #497 @ 09:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305

SUCK IT COOLLER FAGS

<< Comment #510 @ 09:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr - Reply to #497

Oh god, you are so quickly. Please, repost this under my line. Thanks.

<< Comment #498 @ 09:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

thats just bullshit

16%

<< Comment #499 @ 09:05 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr

telefrag :(

but WP rapha

<< Comment #526 @ 09:14 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #499

telefrag is inevitable

<< Comment #572 @ 09:38 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #526

it's ok. for once, i'm not even sad that cooller lost. he did beat rapha in the groups and he lost in the finals by a hair.

this was just great quake and the best 2 players made it to the final.

<< Comment #577 @ 09:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #572

yeah but who knows if cooller can get this far again.

he was pretty lucky vs av3k

<< Comment #580 @ 09:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #577

don't think so. he beat av3k twice in the same tournament. he really was the better player. the semis didn't even go to the last map.

on dm6 he destroyed him 18-2.

<< Comment #582 @ 09:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #580

yeah the group stage was clean, but in playoffs he was SO lucky its crazy.

<< Comment #587 @ 09:48 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #582

where? if anyone was lucky, it was av3k on dm6 who got the FAR better starting spawn. i mean that was just a free kill for him.

<< Comment #591 @ 09:51 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #587

come the fuck on, cooller surviving @ dm6 mh with 1 hp, railing avek and taking the mega?

or running away on t7 with 4-9 hp 10 times? avek missing 20 rocketjumps on dm13?

<< Comment #599 @ 09:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #591

low HP survival happens to pretty much everybody in almost every game.

also, he's seriously getting better with every tournament. he fixed everything he was doing wrong against av3k in the EU championships. he can get this far again.

even rapha himself said that all their games are so close.

Edited by ashr at 09:57 CST, 6 March 2010

1%

<< Comment #602 @ 09:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #599

playoff game vs avek, he was SO FUCKING LUCKY. deal with it.

or go see the sk interview, he said it himself.

<< Comment #643 @ 11:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #577

I think it's safe to say that Rapha and Cooller are roughly equal with av3k/cypher capable of beating them but also capable of imploding due to being mentally weak.

<< Comment #500 @ 09:06 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ArNoz

fuck :(

1%

<< Comment #501 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Spyyder

RAPHAAAAAAA!

<3

<< Comment #502 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

caesar_

that didn't happen

<< Comment #503 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr

============================
Ok. Let's USA's fags shouts begins!
============================

1%

<< Comment #504 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SpUt

cypher vs av3k demos: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../17484215/

rapha vs cooller demos: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../17484214/

7%

<< Comment #509 @ 09:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

d1z : - Reply to #504

thank you.

<< Comment #505 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

GOD DAMMIT COOLLER WHY THAT ROCKET JUMP =(

<< Comment #506 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

d1z :

Rapha will never deserve such respect, as Cooller has.

ESWC for Cooller for sure.
[/fan]

<< Comment #507 @ 09:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kK_Storm

FU Cooller :(

<< Comment #551 @ 09:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr - Reply to #507

Fuck Cypher. Really. He had 1 damnit map to win and didnt got it.

<< Comment #655 @ 11:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (77-253-254-224.adsl.inetia.pl) - Reply to #551

Fuck Cypher

This is what Av3k was talking about.

<< Comment #508 @ 09:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kevz

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrage, what was cooller thinking going up to ya?

well anyway grats to shane rapha hendrixson from sk from america :>

2%

<< Comment #511 @ 09:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

gg. absolutely fucking awesome game.

gratz rapha.

<< Comment #512 @ 09:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stingerrayer

quake live is boring. whoever +backs more, wins.

well played to rapha.

<< Comment #514 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #512

lol

<< Comment #513 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_

AMAZING FINAL!! QUAKE fans couldn't have asked for better! this was pure skill and both Cooller and Rapha
have taken dueling to new heights! simply amazing. My heart was pounding throught all of the final.
CONGRATS RAPHA. You deserved it.

congrats to cooller, with the $4000 check too! he should be proud

<< Comment #515 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mefajpE^

haha, rolf

<< Comment #516 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cerci

Rapha deserves it, cooler made some mistakes and got punished for it. both players played verry good.

NICE FINAL ! :D

1%

<< Comment #517 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hi wotsup lol

COOLLER BEST PLAYER EVER

RAPHA ALLTIMES LUCKY

<< Comment #518 @ 09:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

evoke

everyone underestimated rapha

he's up there with the big names in quake history now

gj

<< Comment #519 @ 09:10 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

goodbye_world

"Rapha will not win." I read this line many times prior to the tournament, people claiming he wasn't on the same level as the Europeans anymore. Guess what? Rapha is the WORLD champion.

<< Comment #524 @ 09:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #519

HE WILL NOT WIN AGAIN!!!!!1111

<< Comment #533 @ 09:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #519

it was pure luck mate,wont happen again :))

<< Comment #542 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dix - Reply to #519

luck, is the world champion

<< Comment #639 @ 11:04 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #542

Have you heard of the quotes;

"The harder I work, the luckier I get."

or...

"The prudent man really frames his own fortunes for himself."

?

Take a minute to think about it.

5 big ones for rapha.

all luck?

<< Comment #520 @ 09:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun

Rapha beat Cypher, Av3k and Cooller in one tournament.

World's best? Yes.

Props to Cooller. Raph and Cooller are soooo close in ability.

<< Comment #529 @ 09:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

revocelot - Reply to #520

The euros are still going to suck cooller's dick after this. He has some magical ability to control their zombie minds.

<< Comment #548 @ 09:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hi wotsup lol - Reply to #529

COOLLER IS BEST

5%

<< Comment #829 @ 13:21 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #520

Cooller beat rapha and 2x av3k in one tournament.

World's best? Yes.

<< Comment #521 @ 09:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

koekie

Finals over and ESR magically works again :o

<< Comment #522 @ 09:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

rapha turned it up to 12 this time.

1%

<< Comment #625 @ 10:23 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vamp1re - Reply to #522

One past the 11th notch.

<< Comment #525 @ 09:14 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

revocelot

GOD BLESS THE USA.

Rapha, you are awesome.

Watch, after this tournament the Euros are still going to say Cooller and Cypher are going to win even after Rapha has proven time and time again that he is the best.

2%

<< Comment #530 @ 09:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #525

well yeah statistically it's more plausible if he doesn't luck a few maps for once :]

<< Comment #535 @ 09:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #530

here we go with the excuses. dude, that was one map.

<< Comment #544 @ 09:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RMS - Reply to #530

no luck, pure skill. rapha is incredibly smart player! the smartest one.

<< Comment #606 @ 10:02 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #544

He truely IS the chosen one !

Amen

<< Comment #534 @ 09:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RMS - Reply to #525

rapha is currently the best. quite deserved wins!

Edited by RMS at 09:17 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #537 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #525

god bless eh?

i'm gonna puke

<< Comment #538 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #525

It has nothing to do with nationality. Rapha is just a brilliant individual player.

<< Comment #541 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yarrr - Reply to #525

Hello, USA fag. We wait you soooo looong (near 10 comments). What's up?

<< Comment #554 @ 09:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #525

idd, lot of those negative nancies thinking rapha doesn't have it.

How many times does he need to prove himself?

I have to admit after cypher was up 2 maps to zero, I honestly thought he'd end up in the bronze final. But it was like he took that t9 game to a whole new level, just destroying cypher who was probably by many considered the best t9 player in the world.

There is no question what so ever rapha is the best.

<< Comment #644 @ 11:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #525

I guess it's a bit like how all the Americans used to say "ZeRo4" or "czm" will win before every event for quite a while when LeXeR/uNkind/Cooller were owning them up...

<< Comment #787 @ 07:28 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #525

and again would be a FUCKIN STUPID GOD if he blessed one country.....man 2 countries going to war and both praying to god for help, somebody will be dissapointed in god. why would he pick favourites?! What kind of god would that be? A very human god, ungodly. Thankfully god doesn't exist.

don't you get that religion is holding mankind back! get over your fuckin religion.

WATCH RELIGULOUS!

<< Comment #527 @ 09:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast

first 2 maps could've gone either way, rapha luckier
dm13 was close too ofc but cooller looked way more solid overall on it

dm6 stupid mistakes by the master, the +backer punished it well

<< Comment #565 @ 09:34 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #527

Look at this sore loser lol. When cooller wins its because he played good but when he loses its just bad luck...oh wait thats the same thing cooller always saids too :)

<< Comment #579 @ 09:43 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #565

not saying rapha didnt deserve it.. he played great too
just dont agree that rapha>cooller, because it could've easily gone to cooller (except dm6, rapha played way more solid there)

<< Comment #528 @ 09:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

SenT!neL

COOLLER BEST PLAYER EVER

but wp rapha, deserved win :D

<< Comment #531 @ 09:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dynamix

WP Rapha, he really is one of the greats now.

Though I get the feeling Cooller's only going to get better until he wins at least 1 more championship.

<< Comment #546 @ 09:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #531

Agreed. I think a true rivalry has only just started and Cooller should definitely play next season! :D

<< Comment #581 @ 09:45 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #531

I've heard that line now for the past two years, this is the closest he has placed.

I've gotten so tired of hearing that.

He is not cooller 2005, but he sure proved he got what it takes.

This time... again, it wasn't enough.

<< Comment #590 @ 09:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dynamix - Reply to #581

Since he's begun playing Quake Live he's gotten better every tournament, and you can really see he cares again, just wait.

<< Comment #595 @ 09:54 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #590

well, I agree to certain extent, but rapha pushed it up another notch and if he needs to he can really improve also.

But, no boubt it will be interesting to see what happens next season :)

<< Comment #594 @ 09:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #581

Cooller QL results: 4-8 @ Dubai, 3-rd @ Dreamhack, 3-rd @ Euro championship, 2-nd @ World championship. And and Dreamhack and Euro championship av3k had pretty convincing wins over him while at world championship he defeated av3k closely and also was very close with rapha at finals (and defeated rapha in groups).
If you don't see a trend here, you are the most stupid idiot in the world.

<< Comment #597 @ 09:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #594

wow, the rage.

<< Comment #604 @ 10:01 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #597

Stop embarassing yourself every post plz.

<< Comment #532 @ 09:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk

Amazing play by both Rapha and Cooller, could have gone either way but the win was well deserved.

I really hope we see more finals like this. And Cooller better keep playing - he's so close to no. 1 again :)

<< Comment #536 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

t7: 10 more seconds and cooller get the kill and wouldve win
t9: lost by a fucking telefrag
dm6 a couple of mistakes specially that last rocket jump that costed him the map control

it seems luck actually punished cooller against rapha but amazing finals nonetheless

<< Comment #543 @ 09:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #536

I don't see luck involved anywhere here. Rapha was just a fraction better in this match.

<< Comment #574 @ 09:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #543

true

<< Comment #550 @ 09:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #536

Cooller had a lot of lucky moments too. I don't think it was a lucky win by rapha.

<< Comment #567 @ 09:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #536

cooller is his own worst enemy.

he paid for all his mistakes.

there you have it, it's not being unlucky it was the mistakes.

<< Comment #539 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4

So close games...
On t7 a few more lg hits in last minute could've changed everything.
On t9 that fucking telefrag...
On dm13 double OT and resolution in final 20 seconds.
Only in last minutes of dm6 rapha was able to dominate a little.
Anyway, rapha deserved the win, but
COOLLER BEST PLAYER EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #560 @ 09:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #539

that t9 game had nothing to do with luck, blaming a telefrag is just bs.
rapha was so stacked and cooller had nothing, cooller would have gone down anyway.

that last line you probably would utter till you die. it will not change the fact rapha is the better player and has been the best player on the planet for the past 18 months.

Q.E.D.

Edited by x1138 at 09:33 CST, 6 March 2010

1%

<< Comment #585 @ 09:47 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #560

Where did I say that it had anything to do with luck? Learn to read, idiot.
Rapha best player for the last 18 months, Cooller best player ever, fuck off moron.

<< Comment #592 @ 09:51 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #585

I said you blamed the telefrag, like that was the difference between the two. read my first line again. it's there, white on gray.

<< Comment #598 @ 09:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #592

What, you never seen how in 2 minutes control can switch from one player to another? Seriously, it happened many times even just in games we've seen today.

<< Comment #603 @ 09:59 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #598

stop messaging me!

I'm done responding to you.

Oh, there was this guy how was 100% sure the americans wouldn't make it out of the groups.... do you know him?

see ya

<< Comment #608 @ 10:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #603

I am not messaging you, I'm responding to your outrageous claims.
Seriously, you haven't got a clue and contradict yourself.

<< Comment #610 @ 10:04 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #608

Have a nice day !

<< Comment #615 @ 10:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #610

I will. Not sure about you.

<< Comment #623 @ 10:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #610

Your flag says Norway but your behaviour says USA :/

<< Comment #685 @ 13:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #623

He's dumb even for an american, but he sure isn't norwegian. :)

<< Comment #719 @ 16:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #685

There you are again with the trash talk.

Little jack in the box.

<< Comment #540 @ 09:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush

Rapha has to be enjoying proving all those wrong who say he wouldn't do it. Well guess what YOU doubters it's time to sing to him.

Strip me down and go to town
...I'm your sex slave
Pound and pound and pound and pound
...I'm your sex slave
Baby make me make that sound!

4%

<< Comment #682 @ 13:19 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yikes - Reply to #540

No being a sex slave before marriage! It's ungodly.

<< Comment #788 @ 07:32 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #682

[-] god doesn't exist.

<< Comment #545 @ 09:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

DOLLAPMAH

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../50860079/

<< Comment #547 @ 09:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

uNstoned

To comeback against cypher and take 3 maps in a row, rapha deserved to win for that alone. A good final but would've liked to see a 5th map, cooller really made a bad mistake with YA. Anyway very well played rapha.

<< Comment #549 @ 09:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Six16

GG's all round, very exciting finals!

Rapha just seemed to be in better positions all the time, like above MH on T9, above RA on dm6, firing rockets down.. dkt predicted he would do this and he did.

Cooller made mistakes and his RL was way off, it could of been nerves i guess. wp tho dude, you gave us great games.

<< Comment #665 @ 11:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #549

It's obviously been the nerves. I was hoping for him coming back a little more relaxed after his smoking break. But the opposite seemed to be the case. Like he let himself repeatedly getting hammered at ra, pretty much atypical.

That said, rapha definitely earned and deserved this. He came across very convincing and I'm quite happy for him, being the likable guy that he is.

Also, if cooller continues playing I certainly see him taking a first place at some point. So far, he's done an amazing job in reinventing parts of his gameplay and adapting to ql, thus still being able to surprise people who believed to know him inside out. Fairly awe inspiring actually. What he still seems to be lacking though is the confidence, in those crucial situations. But he appears to be on track to finally win a major tournament, and once he does we'll sure see him run up to full potential.

Now throw a comeback of toxjc into the mix and there'll definitely be exciting times ahead of us. Especially if esl manages to not fuck up their events.

<< Comment #731 @ 17:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #665

you dumbass euros can keep saying "i hope cooller keeps playing and he will reach his full pottential mb one time nerves wont play a role."

idiot mother fucker he is at his full potential. Ya as you can see these games are so close and could probably go either so if cooller wins the next tourney it doesnt mean he reach another level. Shit just went his way that time. God damn you mother fuckers come up with a new excuse or some bull hsit to say every fucking time its amazing.

<< Comment #739 @ 17:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #731

Waiter? More whine, please.

<< Comment #552 @ 09:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RonC

rapha has his own version of DAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

<< Comment #561 @ 09:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #552

yeah girlish version

<< Comment #588 @ 09:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #552

yeah some squeaky sound sound :-)

<< Comment #553 @ 09:23 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rehepapp

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../50858948/

<< Comment #555 @ 09:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

btw....

21%

<< Comment #557 @ 09:27 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #555

you sir, are a genius.

<< Comment #562 @ 09:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #557

\o/

<< Comment #789 @ 07:35 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #555

now probably every American is "PROUD" to be an American. 'Even though it's the most ridiculous thing. You can't be proud to be of a nationality. You were born in a country. So it's just a coincedence your parents fucked in this country.

Be happy to be an American, but don't say "proud". It just makes you look stupid. (ah yeah since it's stolen.....said by the great george carlin)

<< Comment #793 @ 07:58 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #789

I'm not an american, sauerkraut !

<< Comment #795 @ 08:18 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #793

no shit i can read flags.....was just sayin in general cpt obvious

<< Comment #796 @ 08:50 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #795

Then reply to an american when you gonna trash talk them.

And of course judging every american makes you look smart.

<< Comment #556 @ 09:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

d00mer

Amazing tourney. First day sux but the rest was great! Great games and frags, feels very good after many hours of watching.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3444/coollerbabies.png

13%

<< Comment #637 @ 10:59 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

TronicGgG ' - Reply to #556

That was unHuman. 2GD gave him his ESL-polo after the QL finals.

<< Comment #648 @ 11:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

d00mer - Reply to #637

Nothink could be better gift ;D

<< Comment #689 @ 13:31 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

unihumi - Reply to #637

It still smells!!! me likey!!

6%

<< Comment #790 @ 07:36 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #689

lol n1 unhuman :D

<< Comment #558 @ 09:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary

group rapha < playoff rapha < final rapha

thats really unique

3%

<< Comment #559 @ 09:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata

esr alltime down
too much +back in these tourneys lately

<< Comment #563 @ 09:30 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr

the first 3 games could have really gone either way but rapha was definitely better on dm6. cooller made some unusual mistakes.

oh well at least he beat av3k convincingly and placed ahead of cypher. no 2 isn't too bad.

<< Comment #569 @ 09:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jezper - Reply to #563

#2 is first loser. always.

too bad this time it was cooller

<< Comment #564 @ 09:34 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ZeritoN

Cooller had some fuckin' epic plasma gun plays, but he just wasn't consistent with rail and rockets (even though he did have some great hits)

Just unlucky again, but Rapha still played great.

And I honestly don't see what the massive problem with +back is. For the whole map it's a little bit tiresome, but the last minute or so, whatever. In the last minute or so, it was exciting to see Cooller rushing to try and get those kills and coming so close. Edge of the seat stuff

<< Comment #566 @ 09:35 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

what would be a good remedy for excessive +backing ? reducing rl dmg ? radius? i dont want to see such a homosexual style rewarded anymore =(

Edited by pestilence at 09:36 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #568 @ 09:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

LukKe

Referers
AV3K.STOLE.MY.SHOES (55)
pipes.yahoo.com (39)
AV3K.SKURWYSYN (33)
TINY.POLISH.SAUSAGE (32)
pipes.yahoo.com (32)
AV3K.NEVER.RETURNED.MY.PHONE.WTF (26)
WHEN.POLISH.KIDS.ATTACK (24)
STRENX.PARTY.HARDCORE (21)
AV3K.SHOE.THIEF (20)
www.neogaf.com (20)

lolz

anyway..great matches today.. cooller won in group stage so its not like rapha's unbeatable but he played most consistently and smart - deserved win, cooller just had some weaker moments, especially on dm6.. wish we could see one more map tho

<< Comment #573 @ 09:38 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #568

hhaahhahhahahahahahhaha

<< Comment #589 @ 09:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #568

hahahha great

<< Comment #600 @ 09:56 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #568

lol

<< Comment #570 @ 09:37 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ted

grats rapha! wp!

<< Comment #571 @ 09:37 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann.../50860079/

what's he pulling, a gerard butler?

<< Comment #575 @ 09:39 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

revocelot

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

4%

<< Comment #576 @ 09:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou

No thanks to all the lazy ESR admins who didn't give a shit about updating the post and make the new bets.

<< Comment #578 @ 09:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

LukKe - Reply to #576

no thanks to esr which was down for the last 6 hours

1%

<< Comment #827 @ 13:02 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #576

yes, updating would have good, but to be fair when the second semi final was finished it was said that the grand final would follow right after. Wouldn't make much sense to make a fixture for 10 minutes.

<< Comment #584 @ 09:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm

cooller is making ALOT of mistakes and while hes doing them i can feel like he know hes doing a mistake but hes just i dunno WTF ARE U THINKING COOLLER while doing all those stupid moves damn

he reminds me of me sometimes when i know opponents going to do this or that and i shouldnt be there or doing someting else but im doing it with that in mind but for christ fuck ive just started to play this stupid shit and hes got years of exp

anyways since his return hes constantly getting better and better and taking higher places in tournaments so GG

all we need now is toxjq cos i think all that love for cooller is destroying him and it would be nice if toxjq could take at least half of this pressure away from cooller

as for the cypher omfg hes having a fucking bad day and i mean it seriously fucking bad day

Edited by 7herm at 09:51 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #596 @ 09:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_ - Reply to #584

rapha always seems to have cyphers number. I gotta admit that I was sure rapha wasnt going to
win the semi's after losing two maps. but credit to rapha and his strong mentality on coming back
against cypher whom everyone was saying would take it all. Rapha said it himself that he gets stronger
and stronger as the tourney progresses. There is no doubt taht Rapha is #1 atm. Dahang isnt close to
him also. Rapha takes his game to another level. rapha: "I came here to win". One couldn't have gone through a harder road to win it all: had a really strong group and lost only to cooller in a close match(beat Av3k easily) , beats DaHang in close games except ztn which was rape, beats cypher 3:2, and beats Cooller ftw. he beat everyone in the top 5! He is indeed the best.

Edited by d2db at 10:00 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #609 @ 10:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #596

there is no doubt?

rapha / cooller / cypher can all beat each other in a bo3/bo5 any given day.

<< Comment #647 @ 11:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #609

anyone can beat anyone at this lvl but raphas has something special that lets him keep on wining those tourneys

i think its that hes staying away from all those shitty mind games, he is very good mannered, never said anything to offend any of his opponents etc and because of this hes staying calm and not doing any mistakes cos he doesnt have to think of anything beside the game

while

coolller and avek they just cant chill out even for a minute cos they re thinking about the pressure, they re thinking about shaking their hands, they re thinking about how they hate each other or how much better they re than their opponents or how gangsta they re or what kinda bullshit they said in an interview

2 much shit in head isnt good

cypher was a big surprise for me i wasnt expecting that cos i think hes the most chilled of the company but still i bet he thought hes soooo extremely goood that his rockets will send rapha into space and it didnt happen so he failed

anywas

rapha, cooller, cypher and avek are fucking amazing i cant believe how good they are

as a pole i rly hoped aveks gonna win this but as i said before he said 2 much shit and instead of the game he was thinking about the interview and how stupid he look now + this unnecesary shit with cooller

they should chill the fuck out and start training joga together

<< Comment #672 @ 11:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weltschmerz - Reply to #647

There some reason in what you say. In all those intra europe playfights and rivalries on secondary battlegrounds, those dudes seem to nullify parts of their potential. And I believe we are even contributing to that, on forums like these.

<< Comment #680 @ 12:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #647

haha yoga together, imagine pre-game yoga with a room full of sweaty gamers

<< Comment #750 @ 20:13 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #647

I think you're reading into things a bit way too much. Cooller is a proven champion and saying that any kind of small drama going on outside the game is affecting him just isn't true. In fact he even stated that him and Av3k are friends. Rapha played smarter, more intuitively and made less mistakes. You're really reaching here to find excuses for why people lost.

<< Comment #775 @ 04:25 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #750

im not finding any excuses

cooller already beat rapha in the same tournament

they re on such a high level u cant tell whos gonna win cos its just random

it depends on the groups and EVERYTHING ELSE including this shit going on outside the tournament

and cooller seems to be the biggest emo from them all and thats just not helping him

ability to stay calm is a part of the skill so again its not an excuse im just trying to do a deeper analysis

beeing good at quake =/= beeing good at winning tournaments

even 2gd said something similar about fatality

<< Comment #772 @ 03:57 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Lethe - Reply to #647

i agree that rapha is a really nice guy, without the shitty attitude that most quakers have, you can't hate the guy

<< Comment #586 @ 09:47 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dav1d_aka_latuch

COOLLER !

Edited by dav1d_aka_latuch at 10:13 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #593 @ 09:52 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy

RAPHA!!!

Now you can shove your zotac win and your IEM4 win in the euros' faces and tell them "I come to europe from america and win 2 tournaments."

Muwahahahahah!
Gj Rapha and Dahang.
Mad yet?

<< Comment #601 @ 09:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #593

lulz

<< Comment #613 @ 10:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4 - Reply to #593

Dahang? Seriously, he was only out of his group because strenx prefers drinking to practicing quake.

2%

<< Comment #628 @ 10:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ZeritoN - Reply to #613

Strenx practiced the most hours out of everyone :P

<< Comment #650 @ 11:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

therm - Reply to #628

exactly

<< Comment #605 @ 10:01 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf '

group stage and finals, group stage rapha made more mistakes, finals cooller. otherwise copy pasta of the games. only persons they lost to were themselves. i'm not sad cooller lost, today rapha topped him, but it doesn't mean rapha is a better player. i'd say he was just a bit more concentrated today and made less mistakes

oh btw, just a reminder of cooller's ql timeline:

5-8) dubai
3) dreamhack
3) iem eu
2) iem hannover

only thing missing is
1) eswc 2010.

oh btw, http://eslgfx.net/gfx/eventmedia/515/50860080.jpg

Edited by night` at 10:09 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #670 @ 11:47 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #605

oh btw. 403 - Forbidden

:)

<< Comment #692 @ 13:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #670

pff stoopid esl :/
anyway, this:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2r735sh.jpg

<< Comment #711 @ 15:32 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #692

rofl,ya,saw that :D

<< Comment #743 @ 18:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #605

Fucking nice

oh btw, just a reminder of rapha's ql timeline:

1) Qcon 09
1) gamescom
1) Dubai
2) iem na
1) iem hannover

only thing missing is
1) eswc 2010.

I found a few errors that I had to correct.
Cheers!

Edited by dCoy at 12:14 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #791 @ 07:39 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #743

dream on

<< Comment #821 @ 12:15 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dCoy - Reply to #791

I heard that same line whenever it was said that rapha will win the Global finals.

Enough said.

<< Comment #809 @ 11:16 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #743

I think you mean iem ac not iem eu.

<< Comment #810 @ 11:18 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #743

yeah, but cooller is playing ql for ... 6 months?

<< Comment #825 @ 12:44 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #810

his cooller account is from september, but he has used a few different aliases before that... and probably still does.

what's interesting is this:

cooller:
Member Since: Sep. 24, 2009
Time Played: 13 days

rapha:
Member Since: Jul. 20, 2008
Time Played: 16 days

<< Comment #831 @ 13:35 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

esdf ' - Reply to #825

so much games in such a short span of time doesn't guarantee a quality

Edited by night` at 13:35 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #611 @ 10:05 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ZeritoN

Awesome. Cooller now watching the CS pretty intently lol

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6480/cooller.jpg

Edited by Zer1toN at 10:17 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #612 @ 10:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou

Config packs from rapha, cooller, av3k and cypher coming soon.

5%

<< Comment #616 @ 10:09 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx - Reply to #612

ur coverage have been amazing dude, thanks

Edited by pestilence at 10:09 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #661 @ 11:27 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (80.152.100.3) - Reply to #612

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hannover/news/117216/

<< Comment #780 @ 05:46 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #612

Great work sir! Really great.

<< Comment #614 @ 10:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

rofl @ the many people that posted shit in the gdata thread about rapha and his "ping win" and are now eating their words

rapha is a boring +back americunt but that doesnt denies that he is a genius that made very few if none mistakes at all in this tourney

<< Comment #617 @ 10:10 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

twister

in the end raphas win was deserved.
I'm still disapointed we didnt get to see ztn tho.
Because dm13 deservedly went to cooller and dm6/t9 to rapha, t7 was so close that i wouldnt really say any of the two deserved it. so in the end for me it feels kinde like a 2,5-1,5 - ztn would have either shown how close the two really are :/

<< Comment #618 @ 10:11 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

p4r4

By the way, the whole top3 is from group A. And we'll never know, maybe stermy would've beaten cypher also as he did on Dreamhack. Nice group balancing...

<< Comment #621 @ 10:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #618

yeah was already obvious groups were way imba but whatever

<< Comment #622 @ 10:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary - Reply to #618

indeed very unbalanced
but i think we can pretty much say cyph is the closest one to rapha, even he got 4th
and dahang is kinda unlucky that he met rapha so early, otherwise he could have taken a better result,
the firt 2 maps between him and rph was damn close

Edited by incendiary at 10:24 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #620 @ 10:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

Vods? Missed it, cause i'm lazy.

<< Comment #654 @ 11:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gra!n3

anybody got demo av3k vs cooller 2nd game%?

<< Comment #684 @ 13:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Khorney - Reply to #654

checkout the mousesports site, i think they got all his demos.

<< Comment #624 @ 10:23 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

incendiary

props to carmac, background hero
even though this event was kinda fcked up, IEM is still so amazing

<< Comment #627 @ 10:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #624

it's amazing cos of lineup (& the money they play for)
rest fail

<< Comment #626 @ 10:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk

To all those complaining about +back.

Go fuck yourselves.

12%

<< Comment #629 @ 10:33 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

tifu - Reply to #626

this
i think seeing so many close games is a fair trade-off for slightly slower, low scoring, +back games
and with tl 10 every frag is sooo important

<< Comment #720 @ 16:16 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #626

what is interesting is that when cypher was dominationg in 2008, everyone was so impressed with his fast paced aim heavy style.

along came rapha, slowing it down, playing smart and it certainly paid off.

and also, people who whine about rapha won because of +back should watch rapha's pov against cypher on t9.

That was pure annihilation, and total map lockdown for 10.
It was like he was playing a n00b.

And also dm6, coollers best map(I dunno anymore, but each time cooller lost his so-called best map it suddenly isn't his best map anymore e.i. (ztn,dm13,t9)) where he played that map so well it was nothing short of awesomeness. and carmac was blown away too... which wasn't surprising.

<< Comment #653 @ 11:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (77.127.212.104)

rapha is good and all but to be honest the only thing that kept cypher from dominating the scene just as he did in 2008 is the fact that he's handicapped by razer to use a shit mouse and not wmo...

in 2008 his aim was a huge advantage against basically any player and now he's kinda average aim wise but a much smarter and less aim-based player, it's just scary to think of 2010 cypher with 2008 aim.

<< Comment #664 @ 11:35 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ZeritoN - Reply to #653

Should just tell Razer to stfu and use a wmo.

Or if he really can't use a wmo: http://www.goodgame.kz/images/MS%201.1%20Razer%20Mod%20Shop.gif

<< Comment #666 @ 11:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #653

have we seen the same semi finals or is hitting rockets just not a part of aiming to you?

<< Comment #688 @ 13:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yikes - Reply to #653

In 2008 he had CPMA. In 2010 he's handicapped by Quake Live. :P

<< Comment #749 @ 20:00 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #653

I didn't see any lack of aim versus Rapha in the semi's. In fact Cypher's aim, especially rail's were sick. Did you even watch?

<< Comment #758 @ 22:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lizahd - Reply to #653

no shit, cypher is still the best aimer.

<< Comment #771 @ 03:39 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (bzq-84-110-83-144.red.bezeqint.net) - Reply to #653

well doh his aim is still amazing and even if he used MX1000 or something he would hit more then most players.

but only ignorant fools would ignore the fact that his aim is much weaker then 2008. he still hits but in 2008 he practically didn't missed. his lg today is also not very impressive, especially in lg fights. same goes for rail on some occasions. It's a fact that his aim with wmo was much better and 2010 cypher with monster aim = best player in the world no doubt.

<< Comment #652 @ 11:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

NivX

Are configs ever going to be posted?

<< Comment #667 @ 11:42 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dav1d_aka_latuch - Reply to #652

in link which i posted there are 4 configs from top4 :D

<< Comment #668 @ 11:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

JDMYO - Reply to #667

Where?! :) good job btw

<< Comment #673 @ 11:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dav1d_aka_latuch - Reply to #668

Comment #641 @ 18:05 CET, 6 March 2010 >>
configs :D
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hannover/news/117216/

3%

<< Comment #630 @ 10:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

supersexyleetmegaruler

this will keep me off e-sports for a while now. thanks cypher for making it all possible

<< Comment #631 @ 10:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kK_Storm

A bit late, but still - Cooller interview after a winning a semifinal game:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/229054-Cooller...side_today

ps. i wish he didnt say that about luck on his side :(

Edited by kK_Storm at 10:44 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #651 @ 11:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

yeo

the way cooller played was beyond words
if he stops making silly mistakes, he will be unstoppable
only rapha was able to match him

coller vs rapha was the final that many ppl including myself dreamed of, absolutly brilliant

too bad dahang didnt make it into top 3 tho = (

<< Comment #632 @ 10:47 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dav1d_aka_latuch

http://www.d4v1d.republika.pl/077.jpg

Edited by dav1d_aka_latuch at 10:50 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #633 @ 10:52 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kK_Storm

And yes, fox interview:
http://www.own3d.tv/watch/23567

<< Comment #634 @ 10:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

btl

Cypher played by far the sexiest Quake.. again. Give the kid a bonus medal or something. 4th place is just sad. Additionally his semi vs Rapha were the best matches of this tourney. It looked like the highest level of Quake Live, but looks can be deceiving seeing how he lost against Rapha and Av3k.

4%

<< Comment #642 @ 11:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Legie - Reply to #634

cooller vs av3k and cooller vs rapha ( grupstage / playoff) was most amazing games from my pov

<< Comment #741 @ 18:12 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #642

final four/semis were epic

<< Comment #717 @ 16:01 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #634

"It looked like the highest level of Quake Live"

very true, they were both reading each others mind for full 10min, rarely see that happening.

<< Comment #721 @ 16:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #634

his t9 game against rapha was pretty f*cking far from sexy, dude.

<< Comment #792 @ 07:41 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vkl - Reply to #721

more comments of you suckin rapha's cock plz....GTFO

<< Comment #635 @ 10:53 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird

since the semi vod is up but the others arent i assume that only the main stream was recorded & so there is no vods for the other matches? gg

<< Comment #638 @ 11:01 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kK_Storm - Reply to #635

KInda this:
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann...ive-VoDs-/

<< Comment #636 @ 10:54 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lolograde '

Oh this was on today?

Suck.

Edited by lolograde at 10:54 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #678 @ 12:43 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

w0nk0 - Reply to #636

man ken u missed it all? /wrist now :).

honestly tho this thread is ace. the cypher rapha semi and the grand finals were prolly some of the best quake ive ever seen with the mind games that rapha and cooller were pulling out and u idiots are talking about cyphers aim and coollers "mistakes". fffffffffs.

so glad i stayed up to watch. wp tbfh.

on an aside, during the final i kinda felt that cooller was giving rapha a bit too much respect at times in not pushing him hard enough.

<< Comment #722 @ 16:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #678

"on an aside, during the final i kinda felt that cooller was giving rapha a bit too much respect at times in not pushing him hard enough."

He saw rapha play cypher on t9, that's what happened.

It's like that Elvis song...

<< Comment #641 @ 11:05 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dav1d_aka_latuch

configs :D
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hannover/news/117216/

<< Comment #645 @ 11:12 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ani

Cypher > *

:{

<< Comment #669 @ 11:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

kolo

not sure if here was a link but here are CFGs
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hann...e-Configs/

<< Comment #671 @ 11:48 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jubei

I was seriously disappointed with the final games, i thought cooller looked terrible in those games. Missing rocket jumps, falling off of ledges. Mistiming items by 8 odd seconds etc. Not to mention daft rocket jumps against someone with an lg.

Rapha won and was in the final so its a deserved win, but from those games i would rather have seen someone else facing rapha in the final as cooller was ass.

<< Comment #674 @ 12:02 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

gk_nz - Reply to #671

Cooller definitely looked off his game, my guess is he choked under the pressure a bit....

<< Comment #675 @ 12:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

bsk - Reply to #674

You guys really have no idea...

<< Comment #748 @ 19:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #674

I think he was just really nervous being in GF's like this which he hasn't in a number of years. He is definitely capable of better but Rapha's game is just way more consistent and disciplined and that isn't likely to change any time soon.

<< Comment #679 @ 12:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

judge717 - Reply to #671

"Not to mention daft rocket jumps against someone with an lg."

sounds a bit like how CZM lost to cooller on dm6 at ESWC2005

<< Comment #714 @ 15:38 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata - Reply to #679

silly risky surprising moves which made the crowd shouts "genius !" in the past have died with rapha's uncreative all defensive by the book playstyle, which everyone will soon copycat (brace yourself to your pillow, borefest is hitting duel hard -but blame the lg buff ?)
cum everywere inc. is going out of business

<< Comment #723 @ 16:31 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #714

did you watch his semi vs cypher?
is that all defense to you?

<< Comment #727 @ 16:49 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata - Reply to #723

all defense minus one match, then ?

<< Comment #738 @ 17:51 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #727

you are laughable with that sort of argument.

<< Comment #769 @ 02:55 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata - Reply to #738

onoz

<< Comment #729 @ 17:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jubei - Reply to #679

Mate i am not saying cooller should have won at all, rapha got the deserved win.

I am just pointing out that cooller played ass, which after all the great games yesterday made for a bit of a crap grand final. Woulda liked a more epic fight.

1%

<< Comment #753 @ 21:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

judge717 - Reply to #729

i was simply comparing your comment saying cooller did some daft rocketjumps against someone with an LG to when CZM did a daft rocketjump into coollers lg on dm6 which lost him the game and the championship. I didn't say cooller should have won or lost. whoever plused you for that is equally retarded.

<< Comment #848 @ 05:17 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ini - Reply to #753

Don't forget it was a daft-missed rocket jump which gave czm control for his comeback in the first place :P

<< Comment #735 @ 17:28 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

stunt.us - Reply to #679

yeah but when czm did it, it was because of coollers genius play but now when cooller does it its because he is playing like ass.

<< Comment #718 @ 16:02 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

PerpetualWar - Reply to #671

maybe he put a bet on rapha irl and earned some $ xD ...... really bad play from him in the finals...

<< Comment #676 @ 12:15 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Terifire

griffin won 800 dollars and he's from both the USA and canada nice.

<< Comment #690 @ 13:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

daniely

GOD BLESS AMERICA
LAND THAT I LOVE

<< Comment #677 @ 12:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio

Incredible tourney it was! The level of play was unbelievable.

Grats to Rapha he was the best today. I think he is by far the strongest player mentally and with skills beeing this close it does makes the difference.

Also who thought Cooller will be this good again placing higher in every lan he attends? 2nd place is a great result and he has nothing to be ashamed of. After this tourney his legend status is even more stong.

BEST PLAYER EVER! ;)

6%

<< Comment #681 @ 13:18 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns

"xou: please stop trash talking else i have to step in. thx."

HAHA how was he gonna step in? such a clown that guy is

5%

<< Comment #701 @ 14:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

.syL - Reply to #681

Apparently he would have kickboxed their asses back to the ussr

<< Comment #702 @ 14:32 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #681

he was standing right behind cooller at that moment?

<< Comment #816 @ 11:45 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #702

Yeah?

<< Comment #820 @ 12:10 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #816

Yes.

Weren't you the guy who said rules should be followed or else it is unproffessional?

<< Comment #822 @ 12:16 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #820

Yes. Do the rules say anything against chatting?

<< Comment #823 @ 12:21 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #822

yes.
I thought you would know the rules when you criticize them so often.

http://gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/r...lebook.pdf

<< Comment #828 @ 13:11 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #823

First you claim I can't criticize them without first hosting my own tournament and now you say I can't criticise them without going through their 41 page rulebook. You really expect me to take you seriously? I asked you to show me what rule there is against chatting and you didn't. Probably because there isn't one, but even if there was I never said one should support dumb rules.

Edited by hnns at 13:12 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #850 @ 05:59 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

becks - Reply to #828

First you claim I can't criticize them without first hosting my own tournament

Never said that. Just said "I'm looking forward to your tournament" because at some point you stopped criticizing in a constructive way and started calling them unprofessional every chance you got.

and now you say I can't criticise them without going through their 41 page rulebook.

If you are going to criticze their rules, which you did repeatedly, having actually read the rules is actually necessary. OR how else shold we take you opinion seriously.

I asked you to show me what rule there is against chatting and you didn't. Probably because there isn't one, but even if there was I never said one should support dumb rules.

nice assumption makes you look a bit silly, though.

Since I did give you a link to their rules, which has both a code of conduct and a list of what "steps" an admin can take.

But no no, instead of actually reading the rules and realizing that you were wrong you chose to just call them unproffessional based on your assumptions. Good job.

And in the last line, you actual call a rule you haven't read a dumb rule. Nice.

<< Comment #852 @ 06:35 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #850

First you claim I can't criticize them without first hosting my own tournament
Never said that. Just said "I'm looking forward to your tournament" because at some point you stopped criticizing in a constructive way and started calling them unprofessional every chance you got.

That's exactly same thing - It's a poor argument way too commonly used and you know it. It's like when people criticize films and people answer with "Well, go make our own, then."

You've always answered my criticism not with substantial arguments but rather you've tried to analyze why and how I make my arguments, very careful not to touch on the actual matter at hand for whatever reason.

I don't call them unprofessional every chance I got, I've quite reasonably called them out on:

-How they handled av3k-cooller in the IEM European championship and I argued why e.g. a comparable professional sports tournament would never (and have never) handled it the same way for good reasons (I gave like 10 reasons in the other thread). Rondrium answered community criticism basically with "I'd do it again".
-How they came to the conclusion to invite dkt to the world finals when there were several more deserving and ready candidates. When reasonably asked to elaborate they all said "it wasn't my decision" (and they still haven't explained their reasoning despite heavy criticism)
-I criticized xou for his position on limiting streams for the ESL tdm tournament, which he answered with irony and satire and his usual "holier-than-thou attitude".
-I've commented along with many others on how their premium stream is run by a p2p protocol thus making costumers pay double without telling people they're using their bandwith. They didn't bother explaining that to anyone.
-I with others commented on how wrong it is to have a rule against rotating players in an online tournament when someone said that's the reason for the 4K-LLL catastrophe. Wasn't answered.
-I commented on how their schedule for the world finals was unsuitable for everyone that either worked normal hours or had school.

None of these things were handled in a professional way except the last point which is quite understandable considering the venue.

On the other hand I've complimented them on numerous occasions e.g I defended how they managed to turn around a disastrous first day with very good following days and how the tournament eventually was a great success. I've also complimented their streams(despite it being p2p) and their excellent commentating cast numerous times. (I have an ESL-TV subscription and frequently recommend it to people.) I've argued that there's no reason they should make the free-stream a better quality one. Et cetera - all in all ESL is positive for quake and I do recognize that. However they don't respond to criticism well (or at all), their PR is horrible and some of their staff are rather clueless and pretentious.

As to your continual blathering on the rules, I said [if] there is a rule that forbids banter and chat it would be a dumb one and there's no contradiction in asserting that. I'm sorry for not indulging your mockery where you linked me to a 41-page rulebook pdf. Furthermore I criticized an action-reaction - not a specific rule, which means whether an actual rule classes with this issue is irrelevant since my criticism would then just shift to the rule and still be valid from my point of view.

And to render all of this pointless Carmac has already said Rondriums comment didn't have anything to do with following the rules but rather he was making a joke. I doubt it but I'll give him he benefit of the doubt, in any case this wasn't serious.

*

Edited by hnns at 07:16 CST, 9 March 2010

<< Comment #708 @ 15:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

wata - Reply to #681

KUNG FU

<< Comment #776 @ 04:41 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #681

hahaha

<< Comment #781 @ 05:49 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carmac - Reply to #681

You should be smart enough to understand simple things like:

- admins know players very well and get along with them just as well
- sarcasm / irony is hard to read without a real life context

So... why would you call xou a clown if you don't know the context?

1%

<< Comment #802 @ 09:29 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #781

hnns is a volcano

.

<< Comment #814 @ 11:43 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #781

So he was just being funny? Ha-ha then, seemed like yet another pompous xou moment.

<< Comment #836 @ 18:29 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #814

mmmmm

I was standing behind Cooller while av3k was on the other side of the stage. On that other side was also the computer we used to spawn servers with my ql account and Rondrian, the other admin. He's the one who typed that msg from my ql account.

You sure are trying real hard once again dude.

<< Comment #837 @ 18:52 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #836

"trying too hard" have you been reading jamerio's book of insults m8? thanks for correcting me anyway, so rondrian was the idiot.

<< Comment #840 @ 04:09 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

xou - Reply to #837

*facepalm*

<< Comment #842 @ 06:25 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #840

g1

<< Comment #847 @ 04:33 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carmac - Reply to #837

You seem like you're looking for something that's not there. You judge and jump to conclusions without knowing the context at all. Please just drop it.

<< Comment #849 @ 05:34 CST, 9 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #847

uhm the context was pretty apparent and there's nothing to drop.

Edited by hnns at 05:35 CST, 9 March 2010

<< Comment #785 @ 07:10 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird - Reply to #681

when did that happen?

<< Comment #815 @ 11:44 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

hnns - Reply to #785

When av3k and cooller were bantering to the enjoyment of the spectactors, and xou showed off his important admin skillz

<< Comment #683 @ 13:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja

Congrats to rapha aka the greatest player in europe

<< Comment #686 @ 13:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed

the guy who plays the slowest wins in a game that's supposed to be fast paced

:)

<< Comment #693 @ 13:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #686

since when is ql/vq3 fast?

<< Comment #695 @ 13:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed - Reply to #693

when cypher or av3k play

<< Comment #704 @ 14:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #695

Just imagine what it would be like if they played cpm or qw.

<< Comment #705 @ 14:51 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed - Reply to #704

it would be beyond awesome

<< Comment #756 @ 22:40 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

zonehack - Reply to #704

watch Vo0 play cpm.

you'll spray so much cum..

<< Comment #759 @ 00:16 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ashr - Reply to #756

rat is the cum inducer.

Vo0 is the jaw dropper.

<< Comment #747 @ 19:50 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #693

since when was it not? You have to constantly be on your toes.

<< Comment #807 @ 11:05 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #747

It boils down to a persons opinion. Sure ql is fast compared to halo but compared to cpm, qw, wsw, or even pk then imo its not that fast. Being alert doesn't make the game fast paced. Theres lots of games where you gotta be alert most of the time.

<< Comment #817 @ 11:55 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #807

I believe having to be alert plays every bit of role to being fast paced as other elements do. If you aren't quick to think as well as react in QL then you're toast. Whereas other game's are much more forgiving. I've played cpm and wsw and while I can't see how those are faster (well maybe cpm) or even enough to warrant calling ql not fast paced. I think it's more a matter of how you are forming your opinion. What's your reference point and why does that make the game fast-paced.

<< Comment #833 @ 13:45 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #817

Well with cpm and qw you have to do everything you would do in ql but faster cause of the speed of the gameplay. The movement is faster which causes you to have think quicker about what you are gonna do.

<< Comment #857 @ 23:09 CDT, 15 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #833

I don't think cpm isn't too much faster. QW is definitely faster especially because of the projectile speed and damage per hits but you're talking about the fastest fps out there so that isn't really a valid comparison and doesn't mean QL isn't a fast game by any means. There's a reason why QW and CPM will not hold a candle to Q3/QL in terms of popularity and competition.

<< Comment #858 @ 00:10 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #857

"There's a reason why QW and CPM will not hold a candle to Q3/QL in terms of popularity and competition. "

Yeah because its not the base gameplay in the official games and yes that has EVERYTHING to do with it.

<< Comment #782 @ 05:51 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #686

QW is supposed to be extremely fast paced, but when there are serious tourneys with prestige the finals are a lot of +back. It simply pays off.
You can''t change that in any way.

<< Comment #806 @ 11:01 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #782

True but the same could be said about vq3 as well. It just so happens u get a few players(cypher or avek) that will play aggressive even when most are +back. I dont see either of those two switching two a +back game in game where they could extend their aggressiveness that much more.

<< Comment #797 @ 09:01 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #686

A simple rocket to the face stops players like cypher and av3k. This isn't racing, there is not points earned for playing fast, only smart.

If you could juggle a football a gazillion times, it doesn't win you the match.

People tend to forget about the main objective; frags !

When you are up against a fast paced and heavy aim player like cypher you have 2 options.

Either play faster and aim better...

Or you could pull up a wall when he comes chasing at gazillion miles and hour.

Smart?
It's all tactics.

<< Comment #805 @ 10:41 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

duumed - Reply to #797

i wasn't critisizing the players but rather the game which clearly favors defensive play while the quake series in general have a history of being more or less fast paced

<< Comment #824 @ 12:21 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #805

ok, fair enough.

<< Comment #687 @ 13:24 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kaloos

It was a good final, but it sad that players have to play so defensively to win a match.
Why are the rockets so powerful even with a good armor stack ? :/
ID needs to buff armors.

<< Comment #691 @ 13:41 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

totalxhale

all i hear are excuses!!! cooller wasnt this and cyhpher didnt do this... i bet if dahang beat rapha in the first round he would have done the same to the brackets

<< Comment #694 @ 13:46 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy

congrats rapha, well deserved. the top 4 are as tight as a ducks arse. any of the 4 of them could have won today

<< Comment #697 @ 13:57 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

weeja - Reply to #694

I totally agree I think cypher, cooller, dahang, av3k and rapha on any day could win a tournament like this. But rapha is so clutch he wins every tournament he has been in. I think without a doubt rapha one of the most clutch Quake players ever now.

<< Comment #709 @ 15:30 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

r1ddler - Reply to #697

true,he is just so mentally strong its amazing

<< Comment #716 @ 15:44 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun - Reply to #709

Exactly.

This kid is extremely mentally tough.

<< Comment #724 @ 16:34 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #716

his game was sick.... or if you will; mental.

<< Comment #761 @ 01:32 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy - Reply to #716

yup. i knew dahang was a flash in the pan. rapha is a real champion and hes proved as much today. i still think hes equal with cypher and on a different day another will win. cypher is more natural, rapha is the disciplined one.

ppl will look and go "your trying to undersell rapha." no way i am. its about results. its about winning. and rapha does it in QL better then anyone on the planet. well deserved rapha and from europe to america and from around the world, you rock.

<< Comment #783 @ 05:52 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus - Reply to #697

This

<< Comment #800 @ 09:18 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #697

ye, unfortunately cypher has no strong training partners, else he could be at raphas level .)))))))))

<< Comment #696 @ 13:55 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

mefajpE^

Pretty damn impressive by rapha.

I don't really get what makes him so good. I mean in my book Cypher, av3k, Cooller and maybe DaHanG look more impressive than him in terms of raw, pure skill. But rapha proves me wrong and wrog again and again. Maybe not making almost any mistake is a key to victory, which rapha does perfectly.

<< Comment #703 @ 14:38 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

beastfromeast - Reply to #696

he plays boring, but he makes no mistakes and his +back is devastating

<< Comment #715 @ 15:42 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun - Reply to #696

Who else can get wrecked in two games, think about it, change, and beat the same player in the same series?

Not many.

That's the strength of Rapha.

<< Comment #698 @ 14:06 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

zar4

Amazing finals, the USA and EU thing should be stopped now, both proved they can beat each other and i think it all comes down to whos on form each day, you cant say either is better

looking forward to cooller rapha eswc 2010 final

<< Comment #764 @ 01:52 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #698

Yeah, I don't really get the whole USA vs EURO thing, except using it for humor purposes, and to rile those with a lack thereof.

On second thought... I was an American TDM fan back in the early 2000's. All i can say is 519 and LA7 :(

<< Comment #699 @ 14:07 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

squishy

cooller vs avek was fucking entertaining to watch!

<< Comment #700 @ 14:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Derb_

are there any post final interviews with rapha? would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: found one

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/229148-rapha_t..._than_this

Edited by d2db at 14:21 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #706 @ 15:25 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

fuzz

awesome games, and great stream today :]

wp all

<< Comment #707 @ 15:26 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

u3a6

rapha's "/bind "W" +back" is so intensive that he almost gets dropped due to inactivity....

<< Comment #713 @ 15:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun

Rapha wasn't "luckier."

He got the shit spawn on every single map if I'm not mistaken. He had momentum on T9 right (I have to watch the demo)? He was going for the kill anyway before the telefrag.

I thought Cooller had this tournament, until Rapha turned it around on Cypher. I gave Rapha NO CHANCE vs Cypher on DM6. None. Zero.

Rapha's adaptive play is absolutely fantastic.

<< Comment #725 @ 16:36 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #713

he should get an award; adaptmanship award.

<< Comment #726 @ 16:45 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Warlock

Great event with the best games in ql played so far.

games I enjoyed the most:

- Av3k vs fox : great play by Av3k, almost no mistakes and insane aim

- Cooller vs Rapha groupstage: Clever play by both all the time and all 3 maps were realy intense.

- Cooller vs Av3k: Shame Av3k didn't have his form that he had like vs fox, but cooller just was the better player here. Great games.

- Cypher vs Rapha: Amazing shots by both, amazing aim by both, incredible smart play by Rapha, which made him come back 2-2 in maps and win in the end. The shotgun blast on dm13 that knocked Rapha of upper rl area into lava was just epic.

- Cooller vs Rapha: By far the most intellectual ql duel match I have ever seen. So many great plays by both players. A truely worthy final which Rapha imo won in the end due Cooller doing some realy weird mistakes that I didn't expect from him. Though you can say maybe Rapha forced Cooller into making these mistakes.

Props to Rapha, a deserved winner and props to Cypher for showing such amazing rl skills which is just awesome to watch.

Also big thumbs up to 2gd, joe & carmac for doing some great casting. Made the spectating and following this event twice as good as it already was.

Cheers,
wl

Edited by Warlock at 13:35 CST, 7 March 2010

4%

<< Comment #808 @ 11:12 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

morpheus305 - Reply to #726

Hey dont forget to thank the guy from esl that casted the first day. "HEY BOYS!!!"

<< Comment #730 @ 17:20 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

vxd

Take a look into rapha's interviews after winning. In some of them he said that by the tl 10 players have to play so defencivly if they want to win :)

<< Comment #732 @ 17:21 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

baron Railgun :

missed the finals, but from what I've seen in the first 2 matches: cooller overestimated himself in terms of prediction, t7 is not ztn. he should have stop using those gay grenades all the time when he eas in control -this is not the way you put yourself undisputed in the lead. it was also funny in the beginning to see rapha making cooller unconfortable at mega, while keeping his way back to RA safe. on t9 same thing, cooller shold have used more rocket and less plasma, on this map rapha's PG prediction was better
Overall, the fact that cooller trains many hours/day is visible, which also is kinda funny, because in the end it transforms him into one of those who he said he hate them: the arcade boys. at this tournament cooller had better movement, faster reactions and stronger aim (as long as he did not get overthinked), and lacked one of the most important factor: correct weapon choice.
One more thing: sometimes bo3 and bo5 feels kinda weird, giving the impression that there are too maps played the same. something is missing: qztourney4

<< Comment #737 @ 17:47 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RMS - Reply to #732

bring t4 back!

1%

<< Comment #740 @ 18:04 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

dem0n - Reply to #732

you should consider duelling

<< Comment #733 @ 17:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

ambro

next event, please

<< Comment #734 @ 17:23 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

koji

those final games were insane :P dm13 was incredible

<< Comment #801 @ 09:26 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #734

LAVAAAAAA!

<< Comment #742 @ 18:17 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

butcher_kgp '

:D

Edited by butcher_kgp at 18:56 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #744 @ 18:42 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

oxycontin

So fucking hilarious watching Cooller beg for a break after 2nd map, after rapha outsmarted him in a long run. Even that french faggot strenx wouldn't do a double rj to YA on dm6. Cooller lost his votka driven brain during his smoke break. Whine all you want Cooller fans, but rapha with the most shittiest spawns on every single map destroyed cooller on LAN.

/flame

Edited by oxycontin at 18:44 CST, 6 March 2010

<< Comment #746 @ 19:03 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

genesis - Reply to #744

Weak troll is weak.

Lurk the fuck more.

<< Comment #757 @ 22:48 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

lizahd - Reply to #744

desperation and fear lead men to strange things, such as duouble rj to ya lulz

<< Comment #778 @ 05:22 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Carpio - Reply to #744

Destroyed? Loosing in groups and winning 2 maps with 1 frag at the finals. Defenately a destruction indeed! :) Nobody can destroy Cooller only himself ;)

Edited by Carpio at 05:22 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #752 @ 21:29 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

RedShft

This was the most boring QL grand final i've ever watched. +back ftl

<< Comment #762 @ 01:43 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy - Reply to #752

rtrd

<< Comment #763 @ 01:50 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun - Reply to #752

Hiya Red...

Well, DaHanG, Rapha and just about everybody else recognize defensive play as being a necessity at high levels.

This really sucks, actually. Maybe we should all move to CPM now?

<< Comment #765 @ 01:54 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

baron Railgun : - Reply to #752

That's why they need to put maps like qztourney4 and qztourney6 back in. There are maps with no armor, 1 or 2 YA, YA/YAs and RA , MH and YA(s), MH spawning every 2 minutes, Jenna inside with Jamerio around, and so on. These times, the only maps that are played are those which are stucked with everything, because uh oh, strategy and because many items forcing people to keep the timing on...
The variation should be good because it compensates a more diverse kind of players (and thus kind of play), not only mathematician players. Some players are great aimers, some are good mathematicians, and some just have different style (like ZeRo4 with his t4 skills). It's not like the mathematicians won't be compensated anymore, the best players are still those players we all know.
This variation should balance things a bit more, imo.

1%

<< Comment #768 @ 02:24 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #765

They need hub. I also am biased towards T4, being a long time fan of it, and that map has such polar fans/haters of it. People who hate T4 think it is just some aim fest of RG bots. T4, like hub, and to an extent t9, require dynamic strategy, where you're playing the opponent more than you are playing the map (if that makes sense). If anything I think t4 makes for more exciting matches to spectate (unless you ever watched if-22 on pt4), and at the very least, going along with what you posted, it offers a DIFFERENT type of map strategy.

So screw all ya'll T4 haters. I don't know how DM6 stays in rotation over T4... but dm6 is a whole other conversation. Since I don' see T4 coming back, at least ID can do is add hub :(

Edited by Arcita at 02:28 CST, 7 March 2010

11%

<< Comment #798 @ 09:15 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius - Reply to #768

yeah, t4 & hub ftw!! (although I much rather would like to see new maps)

<< Comment #859 @ 01:35 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c - Reply to #768

T4 was played at Qcon 2008 and that's when Cypher beat Zer04. This alone should've told many how the overlord of a map can be beaten with some young blood thrown into the grinder. I wonder why it did not make to the map pool of most of the recent QL tourneys.

<< Comment #751 @ 21:22 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

26671

Chance != griffin

<< Comment #754 @ 21:42 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

judge717

Is it possible for the demos/configs links to be added to this post? Or someone reply with the link to them for a fat plus.

<< Comment #755 @ 22:08 CST, 6 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

flowrush - Reply to #754

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season4/hannover/news/117216/

<< Comment #770 @ 03:38 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (253.eau.ee)

2gd aka mr obvious: "if rocket hits, it makes an explosion"

5%

<< Comment #777 @ 04:42 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #770

u cant be estonian WTF

<< Comment #760 @ 01:20 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

erok

great games, can't wait for next major lan

<< Comment #766 @ 02:04 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita

I want to see a prime czm vs top form rapha. CZM was like an aggressive rapha with cypher's aim. fucking loser chose college over quake tho, lolz

<< Comment #767 @ 02:11 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy - Reply to #766

or else czm just chooses college and has a bloody great time cos hes ultra talented.

but if we are making stuff up then rock on wayne

<< Comment #838 @ 03:22 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

shqdow - Reply to #767

wtf are u even trying to say?

<< Comment #843 @ 09:20 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jazzy - Reply to #838

no idea, was drunk

<< Comment #855 @ 08:22 CST, 11 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #843

:D i don't think i make a comment sober.. rock on!

<< Comment #853 @ 04:47 CST, 10 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

KitesAreFun - Reply to #766

Rapha's RL is better. Rapha's execution is better. Rapha's adaption is better. Rapha's decisions are better.

CZM had hitscan though.

<< Comment #856 @ 08:24 CST, 11 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Arcita - Reply to #853

czm had decent brains too, fo sho

<< Comment #773 @ 04:19 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

caesar_

lol cypher only won 800 euro, ul m8

<< Comment #784 @ 06:00 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Kwibus

Awesome Tourney. I missed the final so didn't check this site anymore. Watched the vod of the final this morning.
Great final, but too many mistakes by Cooller.

This is also why rapha wins. He's the guy that just doesn't fuck up. Extremely impressive.
The top 4 can all beat eachother, but rapha is just damn impressive and pretty much flawless which results with him ending up at 1.

+back is obvious. Specially when so much is at stake. Maybe it's a bit boring sometimes, but it's also extremely nervewracking and tactical. QW is supposed to be the fastest game, but when it really matters in duel +back is also rewarding in qw.
I don't think this can be changed.

I do think QL needs a more fast paced map instead of dm13/ztn. I really love spectating these maps, but they are also very +back friendly and 2 of those maps is maybe a bit too much. I'm not hoping for t4 because I think it's a flawed map... oh well.

gg rapha. True king of QL atm.

<< Comment #786 @ 07:12 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Dird

dont fuck with jesus

<< Comment #799 @ 09:18 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #786

.

Edited by x1138 at 09:19 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #794 @ 08:12 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

c1

my suggestions for next iem:

-dont rename demos. this fucked up my demoplayer
-put ingame sound slightly louder. Its hard hear a hitsound sometimes

all in all a good tourney

<< Comment #804 @ 10:37 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Anonymous (AMarseille-553-1-215-114.w92-153.abo.wanadoo.fr)

Once again the best player of the tourney was cooller, once again he wasn't at 100% for the final day, and once again he lost !

<< Comment #818 @ 11:55 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius - Reply to #804

it's just rapha I think, he just forces every player into making mistakes, so it looks like player x isn't 100%.

<< Comment #803 @ 09:49 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt

2GD(on cooller): "... admins are telling him not to smoke and he's like; 'screw you I'm gonna smoke!'. And then he's also gonna take his sportmanship award with him and... to maybe light it with"

Best line of the tourney, lol

<< Comment #830 @ 13:25 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

T1E ' - Reply to #803

2gd:
"Welcome back to the commenators booth. Two very credible members of esl staff presenting a not so credible award, well done"

<< Comment #834 @ 16:38 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rupertt - Reply to #830

lol

and that smirk on joe's face is priceless. He's like: "He did NOT just say that!"

Edited by x1138 at 16:44 CST, 7 March 2010

<< Comment #819 @ 12:03 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Gladius

I just saw that dm13, wow, must be one of the most intense games I've ever seen. And once again the iceman does it again; letting the opponent have control minute after minute, awaiting patiently his chance, like a cheetah, and then BAM, he strikes! Fortunately some insane rockets by cooller prevented him from winning this map too...
rapha has gained even more respect for me after this tournament.

<< Comment #826 @ 12:58 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

[mash]

wow, huge crowd for the finals. nice.

<< Comment #841 @ 05:42 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

btl - Reply to #826

I'm still wondering whether all the people were there for the CS finals, QL finals or maybe even both. A German CS team in the finals would have explained the crowd, but even without one the place was packed.

<< Comment #844 @ 10:05 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

shqdow - Reply to #841

everyone wanted to see some amazing WoW action

<< Comment #835 @ 17:56 CST, 7 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

rTx

now that some bring the t4 thing what happened ? why it was removed from competition ? i went away from the scene a couple years and now my fav map is gone =(

<< Comment #845 @ 16:06 CST, 8 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Jamerio :

Shit i thought it was 20K to the winner.

<< Comment #860 @ 01:44 CDT, 16 March 2010 >>

(Link, Reply)

By

Cyn1c - Reply to #845

Welcome to 2010..Daaaaaaaaaaaaaa!