i wonder if there will ever be some new maps in vq3 tournaments.

Thought the same, really zZZZz.

sucks that pukka isn't usd, prtty fun map(s)

damn straight

pukka3tourney2 ftw! =<

Let them choose maps they will pick/play these six anyway. (my own experience)

how about forcing different maps?

Yes that is always the solution. What I meant is that the fear of loss in a new map is bigger that the will of trying something new.

Playing some new maps would make for some awesome excuses for a loss like: "LULZ NEW MAP DON'T KNOW IT YET?!?!?"

lol, thought exactly same...

International? :/

awesome, good job d3porte

english information about the tournament: http://www.d3porte.com/2008/08/d3porte-intern...t-english/

Nice! some players can use it as training to san jose final i think,let's ready to another cool Q3 tourney :D

i`d like to play a north american online tournament, but i think that its impossible :(

espn deportes

"And on the 15th you can start to schedule and play your games."

is it 3-day-cup? friday to sunday or more days?

1-day-cup? 5-weeks-cup ?

2-girls-1-cup?

ye that would be nice :O)

you didn't get it, I guess :P
Otherwise you wouldn't have said "nice"...

unless he is twisted :)

geez, so you've seen it too?

omg NO but i read something somewhere could have been here or irc

I like the way you said that with a smile ;)

he may not be into such stuff, you know. real life etc.

please..... those pictures in my head...... PLEASE!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

swap.avi

it will be from 15-16 to 21-22, the tournament should end 2-3 days before sanjose cause some ppl will travel to eswc final.

D3porte its working on schedule but will be on these dates more or less.

We will update the new soon.

almost from 15 to 21-22 august i think 1 week-1cup-tournament xD admins will confirm this today i think

yo pienso en jugar el torneio, yo tengo ping 200(creio) mas se puesso gostaria mucho

Se te entiende bien :D

:DDD

I think it will be from 15-16 to 21-22,the tournament should end 2-3 days before sanjose cause some ppl will travel to eswc final.

D3porte its working on schedule.

btw hi spartie! :d

nice :)

You will need to send your cfg to the administrators too.

i lol'd.

I think that they do this cause most of people likes to have and test news cfg's from good players after the tournament.

oh. well, can be. i thought of cheat check first, but i guess that is too optimistic and doesnt make sense.

lolz.

This tournament is supposed to be ended right before ESWC finals. Tonight they will try to put a schedule online

No doubt, this is the best way to select maps \o/

I lolled. (which is I hope what you were going for....)

Best would be choosing maps, best of 5, 10mins per map, 2min OT.

Looking good :)

It's about time u need some Danish players again.

I'll sign up tomorrow! gogogo HF :D

Go PsY!

I wanna see the players meet on top of ze irc.

more cups = good
bad maps = bad

ESWC Finals really needs to be the last time we ever see pro-q3dm6 in any form of competition.

WE ALL HOPE SO!

have your mom not told you not to speak for everyone?

hub, and dm6

if t4 gets extensive play for any more time (hub prevented so) then that needs to go asap

which leaves ztn and NEW MAPS

Well at least with pt4 we have a map that is pretty fair and there is limited spawn luck.

pdm6/hub are so spawn dependant it's unreal.

if hub is so spawn dependant why is it that nearly always the better hub player wins (unlike on dm6 where its really fucking random at times)?

I didn't say random, I said spawn dependant.

On hub3aeroq3 a large majority of the kills are either direct spawn kills or kills on a player who has just spawned and is in the process of moving to an item or something (Basically he just spawned but didn't die on the spawn).

The map is therefore very dependant on spawns, the spawns are random to a degree and aren't totally at the players control in VQ3. This is in contrast to say ztn where spawn kills still happen but are not as common.

The better player nearly always wins? dm6 really random?


To me it looks like pro-q3dm6 and hub3aeroq3 are about as random as each other, and ztn3tourney1 being by far the map where there better player generally wins.

imho you have to actually look at the dm6 games, as in watch the games and decide, statistics of how many wins/losses someone has don't mean a lot.

By random i meant 1 player gets full control from the beginning and the other SG spawn on dm6, not random as in a newb can beat a pro cause of a better spawn.

And oh, 2. and 3. on hub only had losses cause they played each other on it.

Anyway, all im saying is luck wont get you far on hub compared to the bs that happens on dm6 sometimes. (and more often recently). And you can't change my mind on that simply cause of all the games i have seen on both maps. :)

(and just because there are heavy spawnfrags on hub doesn't mean they decide the outcome of the game, even the best hub players get spawnfragged a few times in a row and still manage to win relatively easy in the end)

If you try watching a hub3aeroq3 game it often goes in a similar fashion to pro-q3dm6 actually.

It's a very cyclic map in nature, with the players constantly (if close in skill and map knowledge) trading control. Whoever is in control usually goes on a spawn run which can either be devastating or totally pathetic (due to no fault of the player). Great examples of these are the Fox vs Noctis games, very cyclic with both players trading control and spawn runs constantly and Fox vs Cooller, fox dominates early before the cycle begins and cooller can't recover as the spawns just didn't go for him (He actually played really well after a bad/slightly unlucky start).

While I totally agree that pro-q3dm6 is a shit map people are totally blowing it out of proportion. I know what you meant by random, but if its such a big deal/factor then it would be reflected in map win/loss statistics or are you suggesting that every player against cypher gets the SG spawn and he gets the LG spawn?

If you look at the first game in the gamegune final Jibo gets LG, MH and RA and av3k got the SG spawn, and yet av3k managed to get the second and third RA and in fact had probably more control at the start of the game than Jibo did.

If it was so random and unfair then how comes cypher has a 100% win rate on it recently, or av3k has only lost to cypher (100%) and Jibo (Despite Jibo never really locking the map down, which is the reason people call it random). Only Fox out of the top4 players at the moment is not finding consistent success on that map.

On PT4 you can end up with YA, MH, RG at the start. On DM13 you can get MH, YA, RA at the start. On ztn you can end up with RA/MH/YA. On hub3aeroq3 you can end up with MH/GA/RA/LG. On pdm6 you can end up with LG/MH/RA.

The other player nearly always end ups with at least a YA.

but cypher is imba :(

I'd have to watch it again i guess, only thing i remember from the first bo3 dm6 from av3k - jibo was that jibo raped him for 10minutes until av3k finally managed to do some frags. Maybe you are right but dm6 is still the worst map out of those 5, i'd say ztn/nodm9 best, hub/pt4 good, and dm6 bleh.

To get to an end in that conversation cause i cant be bothered anymore:
LEAVE HUB ALONE (c) Chris Crocker

=)

ZTN > DM13 >>>>> PT4 >> HUB >>>> DM6

DM13 suffers from bad spawn points sadly :(

well if its about personal preference its for me:
hub > nodm9 >>>>> ztn >>>>>>>>> pt4 >> dm6 ;P

That wasn't my personal preference :P

dm13 > ztn > * (rest are all bad in my eyes!)

it is your personal preference!

exactly

Bad respawn!

Also I never said hub3aeroq3 games are decided by spawns, although to some degree they are since when you have a map so dependant on spawn kills in its style you're throwing things into "chance" and "luck" territory.

I think map control is far, far more critical on hub than the other maps. If you're not in absolute control of the map, most likely you're dying. Repeatedly.

It's like the difference between Basketball and Football. Both games have strategy, technique, and excitement. But basketball is such a higher scoring game because it's a lot easier to score when you're in control of the ball.

yeah vo0. you got sum fucking power in esport world, i mean world tour blahblah you know. make them change fucking maps, just make it. tournament orga dosnt give a fuck since they know we have so few cups with prize money that even 200$ will make ppl behave like herd of hungry wolves.

Im in, GL all.

promising!

remove me from playerlist btw.

Playerlist is fuckin rulez.

AAAH man I wanna play that so bad :D

...

omg... I have to play vs av3k first match

better to finish him off early.

/give stakegun

gtv + tourneys = \o/

wtf mang, why is k1llmas in this tournament and not eswc finals?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?

because he didn't qualify

he should have or something.. he beat cypher 3/4 maps !! come on

the eswc qualifier was on lan.... you know, LAN, not some random unimportant online tourney, and there he lost

edit: sorry, i thought k1llmas was there and question not, but it was the other way around.

Still i dont think he would have qualified.

he wasn't at the qualifier. and there's no way he can beat cypher right now on LAN.

Online rocks the world.

i hope i get to play

ololo