fix this plz:
ALIAS (lamer) -VS- SHE.MONGO (cunt)

what's your problem about z4? he ddi some trashtalk like most of the "pros", so where's the point in blaming him, and others not?

regarding to this demo, i'd say that mongo cheats for sure. noone would aim that weird with the rail, as he did there. it looks pretty clear imo, that he cheats.

nope, i dont think itz a cheat. itz just flick flack with luck. well, z4 is like maradonna (from football) - both cunts. well, how old is he? - 12?

cheat.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1541574


The real mongo.

rofl at rail at 6.20

damn hax0rs ruined z4's q3 career :/

what?

they (the evil haxorz) made him quit :(

and that ruined his career?

yea, what a shame :(

k man

I'm so proud to know that DFM Cheats v3.7 made this rage possible.

I like the part when he shoots rails blatantly randomly to lower his stat

not the same dude as

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1539780

anyways..

Really?? I thought it was the same, he used that bind ugotjokes? so I was guessing it was him. U sure about this?

Anyways, hard to tell weather he's cheating or not, but when he did those rail- flipshots by just moving his crosshair fast over the target was fishy for sure. Was he hitting 70% rail btw? If so, that says alot. Even toxic or czm doesn't shoots that, and certainly not vs z4. Was this on a pb server btw?

Even toxic or czm doesn't shoots that

That doesnt say anything =P

no i'm not sure, but i watched both demos and the guy in this demo looks like a complete noob compared to the other..

It isnt me.

=(

What z4 said is exaclty right, not that I like z4's attitude but this cheater guy is just pathetic, he played so very stupidly I couldn't even believe it.

Dunno if i'm misstaken but didn't the alias guy play very bad too?

looks like a bad player with autoshoot or smth...

when z4 will be in shape and will play on lan he's gonna rape mongo like a little girl he is
now tell me this is not a good joke

ok woah.this hacker guy is not me,for a few reasons.

1)I dont play at TEAM EMPIRE at all,and if i did,i would have 70-80 ping,which is why i dont play there.

2)This guys name had some kind of purple color for the "mongo" part of his name,and the color i use is white.

3)I tend to control the map a bit better than this clown did.and yes i do agree he is hacking.

but,believe what you want to.Its funny to see all the zero4 fanboys looking for a scapegoat for the reason hes not showing to eswc.

Pretty sad.

thanks for being the real mongo !!, who was that clown then? any clue ?

i dont blame zero4 for not going to eswc,q3 has changed alot since he was at the top of his game.to much aim and no map control.
for me alot of fun has gone from q3 now,even watching demos of cpm vq3 games is boring.when speccing a top player it kinda looks like anyone can do this.i know this is not the case but somehow it doesn't look like the real "wow amazin skill omg how did he do that!" i used to see in osp demos.

I couldnt agree more!

Honestly and Seriously Mongo.

get good NEWB

it's quite normal that z4 thinks he was cheatting.....70% rail???? please this is not normal.

Not really sure who it could be.I played this one guy i supposed was hacking ( he was shooting 100pct rail for the first 5 min) at a few dfw servers,with what looked like an autoshoot similiar to this guy.

But i dont really know
=/.

haha get em mongo!

Ok, this has got to be the worst movement ever displayed in a q3demo. I would be really ashamed if my rj's where anywhere close to the likes of this guy.

looks heavy like cheating

Stopped the demo at around 1:55ish (triple rail kill)

Its just some cheater aliasing as mongo

I love watching demos of cheaters, so much intrigue! :-)

must have got the wrong demo, cos no cheaters there. :( its not uncommon these days to have crazy aim. Look at LuGia and Terifire for example.

moi

_o/

hei. <3

no one's hacking there. I'm sry.

All I see is cpma netcode + hub + aim whore (rail whore) + the fact that z4 is actually pretty easy to hit.

68 % rail ? OMG NEVER SEEN THAT OMFG CHEAT HAX0R !

Wasn't even a 15 mn duel... And remember v3rb and his 83% rail ? Ok it was 4on4 TDM but still... 83%...

ZeRo4 is faraway from czm's lvl now... You can't stop playing quake for 2525245 years then come back and say "hello, I'm gonna rape you all, you're all stupid ez nerdz, cu @ LAN" after only 2-3 months (?) of practice...

Pretty recently I've watched some old demos of fatal1ty @ q3 (2002-03), and man, what a bad aim (I mean, still pretty good, but compared to the majority of actual good players...) and it wasn't only against pros... In my eyes ZeRo4 plays like fatal1ty, I mean, most of the time he tries to outsmart his opponent, but when you lack of aim (mainly), you can't do anything in vq3... And hub = aim + spawn rape + teleport skillz :-).

cooller > * :-P

Sorry Mario, but the princess is in another castle.

I don't get it xD, care to "explain" ?

:-x

I played him on ztn in dfw, he hit 5rails in a row on me. After that, I finally killed him and he never saw rail again. He was lging 42 on me but i still managed to win by 9-10. Mainly because he can't time anything and I nade spam'd him to death. He seems to like to chill on aero mostly, so he can have easy access to the rail. I have a pretty good idea who it is....and yes he does hack.

"and yes he does hack."

Care to explain clearly why pls ? :>

Because judging on this demo, it's seems ok to me, really :o.

But hey, I'm noob @ 1on1, and this is only 1 demo, so I can't tell exactly if he is or not.

I was saying if it is the person I believe it to be(jarod), he hacks......but someone like you wouldn't know anything about people like jarod because you've never been seen by anyone EVER....in the vq3/osp 1on1 community in America. You also wouldn't know that there are only 3 players that are actually good that ping 14 to dallas. You also wouldn't know i've spoken to 2 of them while this guy was playing. You also wouldn't know that we've had some major problems over here ever since PB turned off with hackers aliasing as Pros. It's an everyday problem over here because people are lame. Just stick to your random posts to get your esreality popularity "plus sign" clout but keep your random posts away from me please.

You are not qualified to ever post in my presence because:
1.) You aren't even apart of the US community nor do you live in the US.
2.) Your 2nd place baseq3 FFA skills don't qualify you to judge any demo of anyone EVER.
3.) You know nothing of jarod, viture, mircon or any of the master hackers in the US that make their own hacks that don't remotely look anything like hacks. These people alias as top players every week.
4.) You have numbers for letters in your name

yes I've had somewhat of a bad day, thats why you are getting roasted.

"Because judging on this demo, it's seems ok to me, really :o." -He4rTL3sS

but honestly the fact that I beat him says something don't you think. Hacks or not this guy doesn't impress me that much, I can out LG him and with strategy to camp rail he can't operate that well, just like most all rail idiots.


This person that has been aliasing as many players pings exactly like bLt (placed 9-12th at cpl 06)
14-15 to dallas
55 to west
and I haven't seen bLt in the arena in a while but I've seen him around in other places a lot. I know it's not relic or carnage because I was talking to them on aim while this guy was playing.
The whole aliasing as other people thing, bLt has never done. It doesn't fit his MO. Thus why I didn't bring it up earlier. Honestly, I believe this guy to be jarod or virtue. bLt has been known to rail as high as 70 before but not in a full 15minute game and that was when he was playing 12hours a day for a month straight. Also something I will throw out there just for shits and giggles, before mongo's connection messed up 8months or so ago he did ping exactly 14 to dfw and mid 50s to west....just like this guy. bLt gets 16 relic gets 7 carnage gets 5. Mongo's connection could have fixed but I highly doubt it. Even if it is mongo and he is saying it's not him, hes been to Quakecon before with rapha.....that is enough to clear him of hacks. I've seen mongo rail 63 before in a 15minute game vs someone good.



"Sorry Mario, but the princess is in another castle." -raistlin

Clever and funny. hows it go.

I actually played bLt last week, aliased as polytype. He was on the non-active list for ESWC qualifier but I guess didn't make a payment? Not sure how much he has been playing.

I've heard people claiming that MATRIX=AB= is virtue many many times lately though I don't see it and he's lost plenty of times to a varied skill players.

I think it's to the point now where even sKitTTz is hacking. Either that or some of these alias'd clowns are claiming to be him. Has to explain beating him by 30-40 and then the next time I play him he shoots 50+ rg and I win by less than 10.

"I think it's to the point now where even sKitTTz is hacking."..made me lol. Matrix=AB= doesnot seem to be a hacker to me, I have played him plenty times and both won and lost, never seemed he hacks, I think virtue is someone else. But it is true that these days when I hop in a server it is common to find people who are really high skilled or people who does not give a shit about controlling a map but hits almost every possible rail. Playing really high skilled people is a challenge in its own, but these other type of clowns sometimes ruin all fun for casual players like me.

=AB=matrix has been getting pretty good, i usually smoke him 40to0. this last time i played him it was 25to4. Hes getting pretty crafty, either that or he started wallhacking.

Ok, first of all, I would like to thx you for the clear and long explanation you made to a random french fag like me :-).

But, also, pls, CALM DOWN !

The "You have numbers for letters in your name" is out of context. Man you don't know me as I don't know you, judging on a nick is sensless, but I know you already knew that :-).

"2.) Your 2nd place baseq3 FFA skills don't qualify you to judge any demo of anyone EVER."

As I said, you know nothing about me. I haven't proved anything in the Q3 community, I agree, but that's not a reason to call me random noob. I know my weaknesses as I know that I'm defenitely not a noob. And even if I was, I've just given my opinion, and what you said is like saying "you can't judge Bush's politic if you're not the president of the US".
Someone post a demo of a supposed hacker on ESR, so what ? I've just watched it and said that I didn't notice anything particular, that's all :-).
Also, even if I don't really play 1on1, I've watched and still watch many demos of good players (and I have serious interest in it, how to play it etc...), and I think after all this time I'm able to judge a demo (I didn't say that the supposed hacker is any good, just that I don't think he is hacking) and I'm not more stupid than anyone to understand duel.

"1.) You aren't even apart of the US community nor do you live in the US."
Well, this is an international site, as I said, why should I close my fucking mouth :-) ? I'm just giving my opinion, and I think people are paranoiac like they were when they pretented that walter was cheating.
He beats you ? He never attended at any LAN ? He never proved anything ? He is not supposed to beat z4 like that ? He hits 70% rail ? He play like a retard, aim only ? So what ?
This is still not a reason to claim everywhere that he his a fucking hacker... But "3.) You know nothing of jarod, viture, mircon or any of the master hackers in the US that make their own hacks that don't remotely look anything like hacks. These people alias as top players every week." So... :-) I don't know really, my opinion is only based on this demo, and tbh I don't really care if he his hacking or not :-P.

"yes I've had somewhat of a bad day, thats why you are getting roasted."
Still not a valid reason man :-). Keep cool lol !

"4.) You have numbers for letters in your name"

But that was like sooo cool back in... err... wait, it never was.

Dispite all you said that might be true (I am not US neither), your community has "real players" with real nicks. Because here in Europe, you cant even play against someone with knowing who it is.
Every body just alias.

I know that's not the point, it's just that you may have problems, but u still have a community...

way too many people play like this these days...its obvious theyre cheating but they deny it to their last dieing breath

they have people that back them up too..either they lie for them or they honestly dont know theyre cheating, but something does have to be done.

admins need to be educated on what cheats look like too...the newer ones that dont jump around erratically or obviously track through walls...sick of arguing with admins and I end up getting kick/banned because they dont believe me.

same here :) played in CUP QCC , random ru noob owned me 2 times with 66% rial on ztn with 50 hits and 66ms :D he tooked 3rd place and admins don`t cared... so what can we do...

just an addition to my last post..

this guy (from the demo posted above)
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1541574

is real...hes thinking ahead and hes ready for where his opponant is gonna be...hes AIMING, in other words

hes not just instantly acquiring his target outta nowhere and shooting blind bullseyes out of the portal...

theres a HUGE difference.

even watching this guy and any demo of czm on hub there are HUGE differences

If ix says he hacks then he hacks. Raged americunts don't know nothink!

ok i watch this demo and there are some fucking strange & crazy rails , i watched alot of demos especialy from czm who is the king of hub and has amazing rail , but "mongo" c mon 70% rail ...dont think so :)

Yeah, but it was only a 5 minutes demo of a random practice game on the internet :-). And in 2008, in these conditions, definitely, 70% is not impossible :-).

in my mind 100 percent cheating. i don't care who the other player on the end is - i think that bias is what is throwing some people off.

also, noway this is real mongo (i know this is already established) but i just had to say it also. i've lanned with the dude before and he is a legitimate talent.

You 200% cheat.

Stasis,

I +'ed your comment. So true.

are you serious? there are people who actually think this guy wasn't cheating?

literally in the first 10 seconds of the demo you can tell he is, when ZeRo4 rocket jumps from mega health to green armor, and somehow "mongo" knows this.

if that doesn't do it, just wait another 30 seconds to when he starts hitting ridiculous "pixel rails," or a minute to when he hits three retarded close range flick rails in a row.

if you don't see it by then...

Amen!
Cant understand why this isnt clear to anyone?
the first 10 sec. speak the thruth

// Katzbalger aka. recK

Play tetris. Offline.

No, really, either you start to think of ways of digitally signing the traffic for proper identification or stop crying. You don't even have to fix the cli/svr, but simply tunnel the traffic to the server whereby the tunnel logs the keys. That would at least fix the identification problem.

Sorry for being anonymous - random here.

This dude hit 37/40 on me last night for 92.5%

He left mega/RA up constantly and was quite slow moving around the map. He just never missed.

He was 10/13 at one point where I said 'dude, you need to at least toggle it to make it less obvious' and at that point he never missed again.