ask tom for recommendations he been loads of places

just know where you shouldnt go: uk and pl

basically the same now

come to south africa! The rand (our currency) is weak abroad but standard of living for a qualified job is good, travel within country is cheap enough (although everywhere else except africa and it gets expensive), climate is awesome, rent depends on too many factors...



Crime is scary but is not as horrible as most south africans make it out to be. Just don't look like a tourist ;p. Lots of awesome places to go if you like nature, and fit womenz!

"Just don't look like a tourist ;p."

Just don't look like you are from Mozambique or Zimbabwe ;p.

"Crime is scary but is not as horrible as most south africans make it out to be"

dude, i saw a remainders of a foreigner burned alive in the paper 2 fucking days ago. all the aliens sneaking in from your shitty neighbours + the cape coloured.

and flights wouldnt be cheap which was a criteria

Whats wrong with the capies? The are kief :D

It's also going to turn into Zimbabwe in the next 20 years.

True, but while it isnt zim its a last chance to live in a country with infrastructure in southern africa

Not possible.

You're fucked if you try to come here mate.

Unless you're Bobby Fischer

Well he wasn't a poor potato farmer from Ireland.

I recommend Ireland.

I see what you did there...

Are you on about travelling or actually living & working in another country?

Living and working more so...Or as a base of operations for a business idea I have (ideally just cheap rent and airfares)...

For me personally if it has to be an english speaking country I would choose Canada.

Belfast

Thailand, u can rent a palace + butler + 24 h security there for 700 $ a month

i'm currently spending 400 dollars a month living in shared accommodation (3 bedroom), renting a bike, training muay thai 2x a day and being able to use a gym anytime i want

can't say i like the country much, though. the place has been fucked (literally) by western tourists for too long

Nothing wrong with some good fucking tbh :-)

ahaha :D

yo chas, living in Thailand eh? glad to see its all going well

Which camp are you training with out there?

australia
new zealand
canada
? start somewhere easy like that i guess.

was gna suggest the same places. oz and nzl are probably ownage.

was gna suggest the same places. oz and nzl are probably ownage.

Except Australia's a shithole because they ban games etc and NZ ain't much better in that department except the nature there is breathtakingly beautifu. Totally out of this world. I'd move to Canada deffo if it was gonna be 1 from that list.

wow they ban games, what would you do instead?!

download the games like usual? Dunno <o>

I'd not ban games. How's that?!

Er.. games aren't banned here.

AU > NZ

i didnt say it

My bad, hit the wrong reply.

:>

Banned and/or censored or otherwise refused classification. Cutting is forced "self" censorship just as well.

lol yeah we ban games, christ that sure hurts our tourism.

lmao@moron

Indeed. Can't get much lower than that.

stop failing.

was just about to board a plane for AU when I read your post. thanks man!

come to romania. it's shit, you'll like it ;<

Milton Keynes is the tourist destination of champions.

your avin' a fucking giraffe mate, it's Luton.

Isn't Luton considered the worst place in the UK?

no this is:

hah nice

The horsecow made the picture for me :D

well said that man

devil's layby? no sir

bangladesh is ultra cheap and has nice weather. hungary and poland if you dont want to go so far, exploiting underdeveloped countries ftw!

hungary & poland underdeveloped?

Jonte dont know what hes talking about :P

jonte is jesus m8

Even if he is, he don't know much about the economy of Hungary and Central and Eastern Europe.

does that 3rd world place even have an economy?

Oh well, I see that even you don't know actually what your talkin about. So the stereotype is true that english people are so proud of theyr rainy island that they don't even take trouble over learning about such things like Europe and so.

am I the only one who sometimes thing Europe sounds like a Frnchie trying to pronounce "Your Hope"?

bangladesh is ultra cheap because people there die by the millions with every natural disaster...

really? you'd think that their salarys would go up when people die because of less supply of workers. Anyways its a bit of a paradox, in monaco i'd live on the street and in bangladesh or the phillipines id live in a castle

on the street in monaco. dumbas...

wat?

nuffin homes, just picking up dem 100 dolla billz stashin em into my cart. on the street. of monaco. what.

Syberia looks like a nice place for u

Would like mainland Europe really - the draw of "oh look, ESWC is on this weekend, think I'll head to that" would be nice (but not France :D)...So not too far away from the action!

Asking for a lot really but I'm an idealist!

germany

Germany :P


well, I gues it does fit some of the things on your list. Life has become quite a lot mor expansive in the last months but I think it's still cheaper than Ireland.
you can definately call the living standard decent
Good connection to basically everywhere in Europe (Roads, Air, Train).
climate is less rain than in Ireland, but we do have quite a share of rain and it does get somewhat colder in winter (except the last two years, which were quite warm).
Rent very much depends on the place you are going, Munich is very expensive, 500€ min if you want to live alone. On the other hand in Berlin you can get a 65m² place in a good part of the town for 400€.
Smaller towns can be cheaper than that and worse neighborhoods, too :P

bonus: If you feel homesick almost every medium sized town (50000+) has an Irish Pub with Guinness and Kilkenny's and often a bartender from the UK :P

Warnings: Hmm, don't go to deep provinces, especially not in East Germany and Bavaria, nothing to do and not many people speak English

Also don't disagree with the official truths or exercise free speech generally in Germany either.

so far that has never ever been a problem for me. But tehn I again I don't wlak around shouting that the Holocaust is a lie.

But you seem to be an expert on Germany's freedom of speech so please enlighten me...

Freedom of speech means freedom to dissent. By the way what's this holocaust you speak of? Never heard of it.

It's a shame what happened to Irving & co.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Hg-Y7MugU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq1e4cfvUKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY8fjFKAC5k

OH SHIT I'M NOW OFFICIALLY A CRIMINAL IN AT LEAST THESE COUNTRIES: FRANCE, GERMANY, AUSTRIA

thanks for proving that you have no fucking clue what you are talking about :)

if you want to reply please at least research the following points:
- is ignorance punishable
- what is satire and how is it handled by the law

And i would also like you to actually read the German, Austrain and French law before you comment on it.


The worst part of Freedom of Speech really is that every moron gets to state their idiotic views and can try to sound as if they know shit...

Who cares about whether ignorance or satire is punishable? It's unforgivable if you can't state that you think for a fact a) holocaust didn't happen (Zündel, 5 years) or b) gas chambers didn't exist in camp x & trivialising the Holocaust (Irving, 13 months) or c) the nazi occupation of France wasn't that harsh in the light of other stuff that happened during ww2 & minimizing the Holocaust (Le Penn. 1.2 million francs / 183 200 eur).

I'm glad here in Finland at least you can say that much. Still, you can't really criticise immigration and what not here. Muslim stuff seems to be fairly verboten aswell, though haven't seen any actual punishments from that yet unlike from anti-parasitic-immigration writings.

In Canada Ezra Levant is/was under the investigation of alberta human rights tribunal for publishing muhammad cartoons. Recently a cartoonist in netherlands was arrested...

Let me put it this way:

Idealism and Freedom of speech are all fun and games until someone abuses it to rally dumb masses and start a worldwide war.
On and incidentally, the intelectuals who so fiercely defended that Freedom of Speech are usually the first to get killed in the process.

You don't seem to get it. This is not advocating mass murdering of the x people. Also why have double standards and not make it illegal to deny and/or question certain facts about assyrian genocide and rwandan genocide and pol pot's actions and stalin's purges and holodomor and so on? Why stop at ww2?!

no you don't get it.
The point is that liars such as Hitler often offer the easy way while realistic solutions and the truth are often what people don't want to hear. Especially the less educated ones.

And the law that infringes with the Freedom of Speech is a tool specifically designed to have a way to stop people from bringing pain and loss on a much greater scale to everybody.
Of course it is a very difficult matter to weigh one effect against hte other and therefore it is important that a debate about Freedom of Speech goes on.

But saying that Freedom of Speech must bepreserved under all circumstances is idealistic at best if not blindly unrealistic and dangerous.

A common example:
You have a completely filled theatre and an adult thinks it would be funny to shout "A bomb a bomb" or something else which causes a panic. During that panic a child gets trampled to death.

Should that adult be punished or would you rather congratulate him on his wits?
Because all he did was use his Freedom of Speech...

The fact is: you can't even research the subject of the holocaust if you plan to suggest something that undermines the figures 6 million or other truths (tm). What if there were 5 million instead? Or even 4!? The 'truth' and 'facts' have been cast in stone and are unalterable, especially in the said three countries. A special provision to protect a detail in the written history of mankind.

I have no problem accepting the notion of holocaust but it greatly undermines the claims if you have to uphold the specific 'era' of history by law and sanctions.

We have always been at war with Iraq Iran.

oh please be so kind as to provide any type of evidence for that...

fyi:
http://www.fritz-bauer-institut.de/rezensionen/nl21/renz.htm

can be easily found by googling "holocaust forschung"

..Irish Pub with Guinness and Kilkenny's and often a bartender from the UK

fail.

i love prague <3
http://www.thepub.cz/fotogalerie/781.jpg

idd what's an irish pub without lcds?

improve your quoting skills, please. Leaving out the ':p' does change the meaning.

Germany does sound good - will certainly check it out...And I used to do German (school level - so I can say who I am, where I'm from and how I am; all conversations go like this right...)

Must check into that. Also, Ireland is more expensive than a lot of countries so I can adapt easy enough :)

Become a progamer. Infact, everyone here who doesn't become a progamer is just stupid.

sssssssssst !!!!!!

I'll second South Africa, beautiful brutality.

i heard snuff is much better live

developed or developing world? anything outside europe? language abilities? climate preference?

Developed - decent internet, living conditions and travelling

Europe would be best, close to everything really...America is out unless I can sucker somebody into giving me a GreenCard.

Language Abilities - English, Irish....errr....Basic German :)

Climate - I have lived with cold and rain for 22 years - something different would be nice! :D

I have lived with cold and rain for 22 years - something different would be nice!

that rules out Germany and the neighbors :)

fucking feels like the tropics atm. maeks head esplode. :<

Yarr - down here in Heidelberg it is pretty muggy at the moment ... need rain tbh

always assumed you're in the uk. iz u a souljah?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...EU_map.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...EU_map.png

I'd go to Malta.