ESR - HLDM, GARPY STYLE

<< Comment #1 @ 15:48 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Two spectacular demos, especially boot_camp. And finally no need to install an old version of HL/patch/AG to watch them :)

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<< Comment #258 @ 17:01 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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kesaale - Reply to #1

what made them spectacular, the rape and the speed ?

<< Comment #268 @ 17:54 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #258

For me how well he played vs. another player who also was a top player.

<< Comment #283 @ 16:43 CST, 9 February 2006 >>

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kesaale - Reply to #268

top aint enough!:)

<< Comment #2 @ 15:56 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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divide

That's funny. I just recently added garpy to my msn to get one of these demos from him. He said he didn't have the demos anymore due to a hard-drive failure.

Thank you to chucky / whoever encoded these!

<< Comment #11 @ 16:43 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH - Reply to #2

chuck norris, where ?

<< Comment #30 @ 18:58 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #11

chuck norris recorded these 2 demos aiming with a trackball and moving only with the arrow keys.

<< Comment #52 @ 20:48 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Ztrider - Reply to #30

he didnt use a trackball, he used page up and down

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<< Comment #65 @ 22:23 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #52

he stared at his computer until it recorded them out of fear. It later formatted itself to rid the memory of the Chuck stare.

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<< Comment #304 @ 20:19 CST, 13 February 2006 >>

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Nxlimit - Reply to #65

hahaha

<< Comment #57 @ 21:36 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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way2ez4gtv - Reply to #30

whats wrong with arrow keys u noob""""""2222211111111

me and jamerio both get on fine(fine as in VER FUCKIN PRO M8) with arrow keys, if u dont ur noob!"""""""""""2222222222222

<< Comment #114 @ 04:29 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #57

lol arrow keys n00b lol

<< Comment #196 @ 10:06 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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nekon - Reply to #57

i use mousewheel to switch weapon :(

btw: i'm serious :) i played cpma with mousewheel for aslong as it's out :D

Edited by nekon at 18:20 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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<< Comment #210 @ 11:30 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #196

but you're german, it's not your fault

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<< Comment #292 @ 02:59 CST, 11 February 2006 >>

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www.ninemil.com - Reply to #210

$$$ :)

<< Comment #238 @ 13:34 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (d54C2791D.access.telenet.be) - Reply to #30

my brother actually played Quake 2 and 3 for years (mostly quake 2) with a trackball :D (and he was pretty good)

<< Comment #252 @ 16:32 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Ari0ch - Reply to #238

so did Own-age from own-age.com

<< Comment #256 @ 16:58 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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feTzu - Reply to #238

Cool, you completly changed my view on life by bringing this up. I can now sleep without worries. :)

<< Comment #3 @ 16:02 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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zubarFLY

Really nice...

Looking forward to see it.

<< Comment #4 @ 16:28 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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cyronix '

is there anything "special" in hldm?
like strafejumping, bunnyhopping, crouchsliding, doublejumping, rocketjumping, aircontrol?
which weapons?

Edited by asphixia at 22:28 GMT, 7th Feb 2006

<< Comment #5 @ 16:30 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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tbone - Reply to #4

yeah, movement is very similar to qw

<< Comment #7 @ 16:37 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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divide - Reply to #4

It's the same movement physics as quakeworld (HL is the qw engine with better gfx bascially). The gauss gun plays a big part in the movement though. You charge it up and it basically throws you in the direction opposite to where you fired, but it's very powerful so you can go ridiculously fast.

The aim garpy shows in such a fast game is quite amazing.

<< Comment #205 @ 11:07 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #7

sounds good ...

<< Comment #100 @ 03:43 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Kensi - Reply to #4

hldm is the king of aircontrol thanks to the gauss + it has QW physics

<< Comment #105 @ 03:46 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #100

Bunnyhopping is slightly differen I've heard. Harder to time the jumps than in QW where you can just hold it in and you'll jump when you land?

<< Comment #115 @ 04:40 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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adamllis - Reply to #105

hold it in? like the jump key? qw is slightly forgiving in jump timing but u can't hold down the jump key or anything.

<< Comment #116 @ 04:45 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #115

Ok. Just what I've heard. Never played QW my self :) And never mastered bh in AG when I tried that.

<< Comment #212 @ 11:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #115

He meant hold it in after releasing in midair, and you can do this in qw, but it's alot harder to do in hl, I think you can do it but the timeslot allowed is much smaller.

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.syL - Reply to #212

Something to do with ground fiction afaik. The timeslot to do a sucessful bh in hldm is awfully small, which is why the decentjump script is somewhat standard (all it does is jump a number of times instead of only once each time you press jump to emulate qw behaviour), and even with that for some reason it's a lot harder.

Edited by .syL at 19:08 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #121 @ 05:12 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Kensi - Reply to #105

you heard wrong.

there is the superjump, which is a powerup that gives you a long jump forward which you do by holding in crouch when pressing jump. but that is nothing to do with bunny hopping

Edited by Kensi at 11:13 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #123 @ 05:18 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #121

Not what I was talking about. I know about the jump pack etc.. Just dind't master bunnyhop when I tested AG last time.

What I meant was that HLDM/AG is not as forgiving as QW with bunnyhop. YOu have to be more precise with when you push the jump button to keep it going. I just tested eQuake, and it feels pretty much like bunnyhopping in HL2DM Pro. Still can't do it right in AG.

Edited by netrex at 11:21 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #124 @ 05:28 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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divide - Reply to #123

You were right man. You have to time the jump it perfectly in HL (probobly in the exact frame, though I dunno) because valve tried to fix it. AGmod guys encouraged the use of scripts that hammer multiple +jump so it makes it a little easier to time. I never understood why they didn't implement the qw style where you can just hold the key down like you say.

valve also at some point released a patch which capped the maximum speed limit on the ground. When you went over the limit and hit the ground again it would immediately slow your speed down to base running speed. agmod got rid of this though through a cvar so you can toggle it on and off, if I rememeber correctly.

<< Comment #127 @ 05:34 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #124

I just wrote that stuff about the speed in another post here explaining what AG is and was :) When I said hold down, I didn't mean all the time, but you can just push it around the time you land, not as accurate as in AG. Just to clearify what I meant, not to repeat you =)

<< Comment #135 @ 06:10 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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divide - Reply to #127

You were right the first time though. You can hold it down to bunny. You have to let go and re push the button after you've landed, but as long as you're holding the jump when you land you will immediately bunny. Doesn't matter when you start holding the jump as long as you're doing it when you land. Works that way in all quakes. Doesn't require any sense of timing at all really

try it. Jump by double tapping the key as fast as you can, but hold down the second jump all the way though your tracejectory and whilst you land. You'll see you immediately bunny again when you hit the ground.

<< Comment #129 @ 05:59 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Jabb0r - Reply to #124

couldn't you just do it CS style and use mousewheel for jump ?

<< Comment #140 @ 06:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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MaJunior - Reply to #129

Yeah that's what they used to do at some point (aided by a jumping script as well)

<< Comment #133 @ 06:07 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH - Reply to #105

yes its harder to time, but most of the ppl used a +jump;wait-jump;wait script (which was allowed)

<< Comment #6 @ 16:36 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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mefajpE^

700 mb :o

3 days downloading on polish connections yeah :>

<< Comment #26 @ 18:42 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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bud - Reply to #6

gg xD

<< Comment #38 @ 20:13 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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jaffeh - Reply to #6

LMAO POLAND

<< Comment #43 @ 20:24 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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revoN - Reply to #6

It took around 2 hours with my Polish connection... and the server seemed to be slow as hell.

<< Comment #120 @ 05:09 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #6

less than 10 minutes here on a german connection :D

<< Comment #132 @ 06:06 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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perez� - Reply to #120

it took 10 minutes with my Polish connection...

<< Comment #148 @ 06:57 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #132

(= 10mbit+ available in poland nowadays? outside of work or uni?

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perez� - Reply to #148

chello 12 mbit = ~$80 / month here
I was using my private 10mbit line @ work :P

<< Comment #156 @ 07:23 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #153

omg 80 :D you can buy food for an entire month with that (even in .de)

Edited by SpUt at 13:24 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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hynasm - Reply to #156

That's nothing compared tothe price I have to pay for a 4MB DSL - 100EURO/Month! As a result it's shared among some people : )

<< Comment #179 @ 08:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #177

16mbit at 35 euros here ;>

<< Comment #186 @ 08:57 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #179

100mbit is 28 euro here
edited the tard-0 type-0

Edited by luKrek at 17:05 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #197 @ 10:09 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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aocmAgix - Reply to #186

dollar-euro? :o

<< Comment #221 @ 12:21 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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SpUt - Reply to #186

we dont even have a fibre network in germany, so 100 is still FAR off for us :)

<< Comment #225 @ 12:35 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #221

It's not everywhere in Sweden, but they're gonna start with VDSL or something to give 100Mbit to people with only the normal phone connection.

<< Comment #246 @ 15:29 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoD2.0 - Reply to #186

q: is that 100mb avail outside sweden? coz i know rings around europe are ussualy 3.5g or 5g... and that would fill up with about 50 swedes :p

http://www.gridtoday.com/04/0105/102465.html

Edited by GoD2.0 at 21:31 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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luKrek - Reply to #246

in sweden we call it BBB.

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<< Comment #244 @ 15:26 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoD2.0 - Reply to #177

try 3500euro/month for 10mb.... :(

<< Comment #199 @ 10:25 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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manic - Reply to #120

3 hours on south african :P

<< Comment #300 @ 10:00 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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bsk - Reply to #199

What the fuck connection do YOU have? :P

<< Comment #8 @ 16:42 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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-myst-

700 mb no editing no sound, someone really doesnt have a clue how to promote a gamemovie

<< Comment #101 @ 03:44 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Kensi - Reply to #8

depends really, I hate all the fancy editing crap in movies. I just want to see the game, and non of that fancy artificial sounds and sights

<< Comment #136 @ 06:14 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #8

There was sound, or do you mean there was no music added?

<< Comment #249 @ 15:58 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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-myst- - Reply to #136

yup, i meant no music :)

<< Comment #9 @ 16:42 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Dird

youve avi'd the full demos? why not just the highlights?

<< Comment #12 @ 16:44 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH - Reply to #9

because he says its a need for every fps player to see these demo's

dird dird my boy pay attention :D

<< Comment #14 @ 16:50 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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ini - Reply to #9

Some people want to enjoy watching a full match from games they don't own and wonder how they play at the top level. Quite a nice and effective way to promote the game you play (And one that is often ignored)

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<< Comment #71 @ 23:19 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #9

if you've watched the demos, then you know that they are highlight clips and need no editing

<< Comment #10 @ 16:43 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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renrut

1mb connection ftw!!

<< Comment #17 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #10

10 :(

<< Comment #33 @ 19:24 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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wocK_ - Reply to #17

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all times ping win

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spyteman - Reply to #33

sif

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doc hendrix - Reply to #10

512k blueyonder ftw!

<< Comment #13 @ 16:47 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH

levi serv is slow atm :( sucks

<< Comment #113 @ 04:27 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (tnw26184.tnw.utwente.nl) - Reply to #13

Heheheh 7 min dl from my place:X

<< Comment #134 @ 06:09 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH - Reply to #113

ye well now iam downloading it also in 8 min :)

<< Comment #15 @ 16:53 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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CLains

So there is sound or not?

<< Comment #19 @ 17:53 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #15

Sure :)

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<< Comment #128 @ 05:42 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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spEEdbird - Reply to #15

deaf or smt?

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CLains - Reply to #128

stupid or smt?

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spEEdbird - Reply to #175

n0rge or smt?!! HUHU UH!UH!U!

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CLains - Reply to #181

Whatchu sayin', stupid? .. :)

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spEEdbird - Reply to #188

~:<

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CLains - Reply to #224

<3

<< Comment #137 @ 06:15 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #15

There is.

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<< Comment #189 @ 09:35 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #15

of course, added the sound myself

<< Comment #16 @ 16:57 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Cash

omg levi ftp is either capped or slow, but we are still thankful for hosting it ofc :)

Edited by [CB]Cash at 22:57 GMT, 7th Feb 2006

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Nicky - Reply to #16

not capped must of just been under heavy use :/

<< Comment #18 @ 17:15 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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dillyo

gamers really over looked hldm at its peak it was very fast and very skilled, real shame. So much fun to play.

<< Comment #44 @ 20:27 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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fag with no name - Reply to #18

yeah I remember when people was making fun of me for playing hldm instead of qw at some occasions and they didn't believe me when I told them that it's actually faster than qw and quite fun 8}

<< Comment #47 @ 20:31 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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nekon - Reply to #44

it's another way of speed imho, can't really compare it :P (no doubt hldm is fast, i play it on lan alot with friends :D)

<< Comment #20 @ 18:01 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Dav

So that gauss gun is also an instagib weapon? No hit sounds, so it's not clear :/

<< Comment #23 @ 18:21 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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dillyo - Reply to #20

It started off as a weapon that could fire through walls and spread causing slightly less damage than direct hit. It is charged and is not insta.

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Kensi - Reply to #20

its can be strong at the cost of spending time to fully charge it. its not always insta, but headshots make a big diff, as its 2x damage

<< Comment #21 @ 18:04 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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oda

It's like QW but with gimmicks. Quite a lot of fun to play, I remember.

<< Comment #22 @ 18:18 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Powerslave

This file is almost as big as an xbox, almost.

<< Comment #25 @ 18:31 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #22

nothing is as big as an xbox T_T

<< Comment #53 @ 20:55 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #25

Chuck Norris is bigger.

<< Comment #55 @ 21:22 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #53

your mom is bigger

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luKrek - Reply to #55

your mom goes to college.

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<< Comment #72 @ 23:21 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #60

i asked MTV to pimp my ride, and they gave your mom a makeover

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<< Comment #98 @ 03:37 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #72

:D

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fuzz - Reply to #98

wasn`t me.

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CLains - Reply to #72

:D

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dize - Reply to #72

lol that came up from way behind... :D
[+] etc

<< Comment #24 @ 18:27 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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MaJunior

Err this is as big as Half-Life + AG + demos :EEE

<< Comment #48 @ 20:31 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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nekon - Reply to #24

but it costs 10$ less :p

<< Comment #27 @ 18:43 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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somebodyshootme

Yeah i once saw a garpy demo, scared the shit out of me. I didn't remember it so fast though.

<< Comment #28 @ 18:43 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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bud

: >
garpy ftw

<< Comment #29 @ 18:47 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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8bitlobster

what a noob he didn't drop those killer bug things once!

<< Comment #42 @ 20:24 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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zeicon - Reply to #29

yes he did =)

<< Comment #259 @ 17:24 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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rolf - Reply to #42

no the spectator switched view

<< Comment #50 @ 20:34 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #29

snarks m8, snarks

<< Comment #31 @ 19:17 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Furore

that is fucking insane :O worth the download

<< Comment #32 @ 19:18 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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cK-nomadic

good videos no doubt, however calling garpy the greatest hldm'er is FAR from the truth, not to take anything away from garpy but he was not the best:( George Kaspiris formerly of team TRU,SYN and the cs team xeno, now working for the CPL was in fact the greatest hldm'er ever to play the game.

Edited by cK-nomadic at 01:19 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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bud - Reply to #32

how do u know that?
source?
did he ever duel vs garpy?

Edited by bud at 01:49 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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Drexciyian - Reply to #36

He's american IT MUST BE TRUE

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bud - Reply to #58

ah yeah right, forgot ;D

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netrex - Reply to #32

FAR from the truth? You gotta have something to back that very bold statement up ;)

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fazz - Reply to #82

he goes to highschool and he's american, what else can u ask for?

<< Comment #117 @ 04:56 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (port-195-158-170-140.dynamic.qsc.de) - Reply to #108

atomic missiles? :D

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deathinfire - Reply to #117

naw, man. we already got those!

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dillyo - Reply to #32

George was a very decent player, however the americans took a liking to boot_camp and i hardly ever saw much from them on other maps. Stalkyard is a whole different story, and although George/neo all those guys were good players at one point the game so surpassed the days of wall gauss and spam that the americans so loved.

<< Comment #187 @ 09:05 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Precizion - Reply to #32

Whilst your right in that it'd most likely be wrong to say that Garpy was the best player the game had to offer (and knowing him, I expect he gets pretty embarrassed by what a lot of the fan boys that tend to follow him around proclaim), you're pretty far off the mark offering George up as an alternative (though he could certainly talk up a good game and promote himself)

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dize - Reply to #187

rooofl yes. those talking days.
how was that forum called where all the us elites used to hang around?
i remember the fierce flames going on there... usualy tex vs them all.

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mindz - Reply to #201

cold.dize <3

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rapid - Reply to #260

mindz <3

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mindz - Reply to #284

:D

<< Comment #34 @ 19:26 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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deathinfire

sarge?

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nthexwn - Reply to #34

yep

<< Comment #35 @ 19:44 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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daryl

I've never heard of any of this stuff: hldm, garpy, lynx, lax, boot_camp, stalkyard. so I guess it's not really that important.

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<< Comment #39 @ 20:19 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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LoCK - Reply to #35

I like the way you try to provoke other people. So therefore you'll get a plus from me. =)

<< Comment #51 @ 20:35 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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revoN - Reply to #35

I guess that if it's not important I just wasted my time watching this... thanks for notifying me AFTER I already watched this movie. If you were a little bit faster I wouldn't lose 40 minutes of my life ;_(

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luKrek - Reply to #35

you were right. it wasn't important.

And it did suck.

<< Comment #37 @ 20:06 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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MassMan

I've have no idea about hldm, have never seen the maps and at least once I thought garpy was doing something very dodgy.

Now I know why I get accused of cheating whenever I play cs'ers in quake - if you don't know the game lots of things look like cheat ;)

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Drexciyian - Reply to #37

its called a3d ;D

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nthexwn - Reply to #59

Doesn't A3D still work in CS 1.6? That's the EAX alternative that has the very 1337 side effect of doubling the audible range correct? I wonder if all the major clans use Aureal cards, or if they don't bother since tourny computers are probably all using creative these days?

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anal justice - Reply to #143

Creative bought Aureal a few years back so their recent cards actually support a3d

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Drexciyian - Reply to #143

I remember having to to use soem a3d driver ment for another card on my creative card, i had to run hl in 16bit mode tyo get the a3d driver to kick in :D, id put money some of these demos are quite old? garpys was playing PK and before that eve-online :D

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netrex - Reply to #216

Believe it's 2002 and 2003.

<< Comment #40 @ 20:21 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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G-r0

gg! wp!!

<< Comment #41 @ 20:22 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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renrut

Never saw HLDM before, 101 kills in 1v1 lol.

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MassMan - Reply to #41

Yes timelimit 20 does seem a bit much for 1v1. And not that I know much about hldm but it seems to favour spawnraping quite a lot.

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nekon - Reply to #45

unlike cpma (BURN)

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MassMan - Reply to #49

cpma 1v1 doesn't have to be spawnrape - it's more a result of cpm3a being so overplayed and tiny :)

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nekon - Reply to #67

yes, cause aerowalk, phrantic and cpm1a aren't spawnrape :p

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Phantomas - Reply to #67

Thats why you play hooney mode!

:D

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #45

Well if you take any ownage demo from pretty much all games they will all look like they 'favour spawnraping'.

Edited by GeNeTiKs at 07:38 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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zeicon

Too fast imo... I almost got a headache. Not very strategic either. Not very exciting because his opponent died so fast that you didn't have time to really appreciate the frag. No interesting infights. It was just... THERE! BAM! DEAD! -> repeat.

Not to take anything away from the players. Still amazing that they can play this fast etc. But really, got kinda boring after a while... =/

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<< Comment #63 @ 22:04 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #46

tru

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #46

indeed

<< Comment #84 @ 01:39 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #46

Its called ownage. You cant base your opinions of a game on just 2 demos.

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zeicon - Reply to #84

I just did.

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #86

Obviously.

I'll reword it just for you. You shouldnt base your opinions on just 2 ownage demos because it doesnt show the true array of skill, strategy, equal contests etc that is within the game of hldm so therefore your opinions will be based on a skewed vision.

If you want to stick with your previous statement then that is fine with me but believe it or not i was actually trying to be helpful.

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zeicon - Reply to #93

Obviously.

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #146

Now, now, thats just copying. :P

Edited by GeNeTiKs at 13:00 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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dillyo - Reply to #46

It's a far better experience to watch a demo from hldm when you are actually decent at the game yourself, knowing what you and other people are capable of then seeing the decent efforts at certain moments. I don't think you can appreciate the game really.

<< Comment #54 @ 20:58 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Jazka

So impressive.

Sad that those fast gameplays just disapears because casual people's games ...

Edited by Jazka at 02:58 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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Drexciyian - Reply to #54

Shame q4 cant use that excuse ;D

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Jazka - Reply to #61

Casual people is the excuse :o

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #155

Yes but noone plays q4 apart from a few hardcore fans and some pros. There are no casuals. :P

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Jazka - Reply to #184

That's my point

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #190

.....therefore they cant use that excuse.

<< Comment #56 @ 21:28 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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daryl

wtf *Was* all of that crap? buh buh buh buh wahahahaha wahahahah
buh buh buh buh wahahahahha
UHHHHHHHHHHH OK WTF IS GOING ON HERE?
wow that looks like one of the crappiest games ever.

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zapp - Reply to #56

you must feel ANGRY all day long..

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CLains - Reply to #96

Nah, annoyed is the word you are looking for good sir.

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rolf - Reply to #194

It's called "having a period".

<< Comment #64 @ 22:12 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Jej3

pure pownage ? :s

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penta

dont get the theory that the faster the game the more skill is needed(that some here seems to think) in my eyes it just changes the factor in how in how much movement skill is needed compared to aim/strategy etc.

after watching the video it looked like fun and he was prolly uber good or whatever but i also see why the quake games have lived longer and been more popular, it just dosnt have the same flow and smoothness as quake at least. and whats up with 100-0 match? must be some better demos than that

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bi0_gauss - Reply to #66

there are a lot better demos but people always seemed to like the garpy vs lynx one just because of how on garpy was during that match (lynx was one of the best players at the time as well)
its one of the most requested demos and since it was played on an earlier version of hl a person would have to reinstall/patch which is the reason i think it was finally made into an AVI

another good demo is garpy vs vortex on stalkyard where garp actually loses but makes one hell of a comeback (getting like 25 kills in 4 mins)

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Grave - Reply to #66

its very easy to aim at slow moving targets, the faster the movement the harder its to hit thus it requires much more skills.

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fl3a - Reply to #102

use aimbot if its hard

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Precizion - Reply to #66

Your right, speed does not equate to a more skillful game. And whilst it may open up other areas of skill (such as in movement and aiming), it can also close a lot of doors on other areas.

One thing is for sure though, speed does tend to equte to a lot of fun. And despite its many flaws, HLDM was certainly that. Infact, if you asked many of the players from that game whilst they play it, often the response would be that it just so much fun to move about the maps.

As for the game not being as popular or as long lived as the quakes, well, your half right. It certainly hasnt been as popular (though it hasnt done too bad considering), but it was definately as long lived. The game came out at the end on '98 and was still going strong till around the beginning of last year (there were perhaps close to 40 clans playing in the main european league), which is a good six years of gaming.

It did seem though that a lot of players were waiting around to see what HL2 would do, and when they spectacularly failed to deliver, most players gave it all up and the scene kind of collapsed. Adrenliner Gamer 2, which I was heading up, would have perhaps brought most of them back since it would have took the best bits of HLDM thown in with a little of the best bits from other games such as quake. Unfortuantly though, we ran into huge problems along the way, both staff wise and coding wise (the hl2 engine is far worse than doom 3's for mp gaming if that gives you any idea) and it never got finished.

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Phantomas - Reply to #66

Having a faster game tends to favor players with a higher sens (or higher acceleration at the least), which is a lot harder to control than a lower sens, especially under pressure like in big turnaments (ask fatal1ty, he "created" a big mousepad so he could lower hes sens and still be somewhat mobile).

So yeah, i think faster games takes more skill, but whether or not thats a good thing is a whole other discussion :-P

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ix - Reply to #209

"Having a faster game tends to favor players with a higher sens "

Only if you're physically crippled or a newbie. Top QWers use fairly low sens generally.

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Phantomas - Reply to #247

Sure, and fairly low sens is a lot higher than the sens CounterStrikers use (and that game is really slow).

In counterstrike some players can barely rotate 360 on a fatpad (~40cm).

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ix - Reply to #280

I play CPMa with a sens of 50cm for a 360, I know what a low sens is. -_-

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Phantomas - Reply to #282

Nice :-)

And you dont use acc?

Anyway, the point of my post was that its harder to user a low sens in a fast game, but a low sens generally gives you a better aim (ofcause there is exceptions).

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Anonymous (CPE0004e29286d3-CM0000390b7a5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)

being a former HLDM player at a high level you cant really appreciate the strategy until you play it as could be said for any other game. Garpy makes it look different because he's just that good... even some of the very best players in the world would look stupid next to him at this game.. there's actually alot of timing and stuff just like in quake with controlling the gauss which is like the 'key' item in the game.. the armor is spread about differently so you can't really control it but if you control the gauss / xbow you pretty much own the map.

<< Comment #70 @ 23:00 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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Venim

flat out amazing to watch even with it being a unedited video :)

<< Comment #75 @ 23:46 CST, 7 February 2006 >>

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linoleuM

rofl ridiculous skills...

I remember watching that demo a long time ago and yet it still amazes me. I'd even say that he belonged in that "greatest gamers of all-time" vote here on ESR :P

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mindz - Reply to #75

that is a bit of an overstatement there. :)

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Arcita

perhaps because I have never played hldm I didn't find the video very impressive. What was the weapon that was giving a rocket jump like effect? it did no self damage.

I didn't see anything amazing, but that's just me. i'm sure the guy is skilled at the game though

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primax - Reply to #77

that weapon is the gauss aka tau cannon

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sansai

damn awesome, played some HLDM back in the days with friends, seen some HLDM videos before but it's the first time I get to witness a whole game at this level.
Thanks for the video, a truly impressive way to discover that game. :)

<< Comment #79 @ 00:39 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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crazyivan

Man I used to play HLDM...but I sure as hell don't remember it being like this. I don't care what anyone says. This is probably the most amazing demo/movie I've ever seen for any game. Was this a special competition mod for HLDM or just vanilla?

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payze - Reply to #79

adrenaline gamer?

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netrex - Reply to #79

Adrenaline Gamer. Like OSP for Q3. Only after a while, Valve removed the speed in HLDM in an attempt to remove speed from CS, so AG had to put it back, so it became more like CPMA to Q3 AFAIK.

Edited by netrex at 11:31 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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Ben

I saw these demos before and they are quite simply amazing! If anyone has heard of GaRpy and wants to see what the fuss is all about i suggest a download. Or if you just want to see some stupidly good skill in HLDM then this is well worth a download!

<< Comment #81 @ 01:16 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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sphinx

im 200% amazed. garpy's aim is almost flawless, and apart from the maps looking boring (to me) the way this is played is just awesome. enjoyed this more than the gross of good ut/quake demo's.

Edited by Sphinx at 07:27 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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netrex

Very nice display of skill by GaRpY, no doubt :) Could have split the matches into to files though.

Both demos have some insane frags in them. Just crazy stuff!

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Bluder

is GaRpY the same guy as HELL? because i thought u HLDM ppl said HELL was the best ever.

anyway, seems like a very fun and fast game.
to bad the rocket lancher is a joke =(

<< Comment #88 @ 01:59 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #87

why does it seem like a joke?

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Bluder - Reply to #88

because rocket lancher is suppose to be a prediction weapon not point whit a laser and will go there. less skill imho.

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deathinfire - Reply to #94

it's supposed to be? that's ridiculous! there's no rulebook

but, if it makes you feel better, you can just turn off the laser and try your best to hit a gauss-jumper

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Bluder - Reply to #99

well there aren't many fast fps whit this kind of rocket lancher and *i* think a rocket lancher should be a prediction weapon because aiming whit a laser is still less skilled imho.
playing whitout the laser tracking in hldm can't fun when u find your self whit 3 red dots in your head whit your enemys 3 miles away guided rockets at u.

don't hate ,just mu opinon.

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netrex - Reply to #122

You can turn it off also though. And in TDM, you can control more than one rocket :) So good team work will give fire them and let the one in the best position or the best aimer do the targeting :)

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X-term - Reply to #122

in this demo it's actually a very nice weapon, where garpy used it to shoot rockets at places he couldn't even see when he shot but could see 1 second after. Talking about prediction eh :)

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hemostick - Reply to #141

Makes me think of BFG in doom, in a way.

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X-term - Reply to #198

I started out with q3 so wouldn't know :(

but it's a pretty nice feature!

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primax - Reply to #87

garpy is just garpy. he also played painkiller in the cpl wt.

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MaJunior

Too much hitscan in boot_camp. The other demo is better (and ofc there's tons of better demos in HLDM). This is like Death vs. Fat from CPL Holland. A classic but still there's better stuff out there.

Edited by MaJunior at 19:53 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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acid-mea

"The codec used is x264, so the easiest way to watch the video is to use the VLC player - http://www.videolan.org"

WHY NOT DIVX OR XVID or any other common codec ? why the "fancy number with an x" codec that nobody has and that prolly isnt any better ?

im still looking forward to watching this, been playing some hl-dm in my early days (prolly around �98 :D), so i gues im about to find out just how bad i realy was :)

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Bluder - Reply to #90

because it is better?

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sphinx - Reply to #90

xvid and divx get blown away by the in popularity climbing x264 tbh, it IS a common codec, i think 75% of the gamingmovies that came out the last 2 months have been encoded with it.

<< Comment #138 @ 06:16 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #90

Media player classic worked fine for m!

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SpUt - Reply to #90

you could try with the http://cccp-project.net/
(that is if you want to play the video in a better player than VLC ;) the download includes almost everything you will ever need to play video, without useless gimmicks)

though i heard that coreavc is faster than the ffdshow used by cccp at decoding x264 these days ;>

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primax - Reply to #90

if they wanted to use divx or xvid, they would get a much bigger file if they wanted to keep the quality

<< Comment #91 @ 02:13 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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DiGiTracker

Renkie was the best HLDM player

He beat two guys by playing only with sound (he disabled player models, but he still could see the map). Now thats amazing!

I just googled a bit, apparently a player called Lem beat Garpy lots of times so =)

Edited by DiGiTracker at 08:23 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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primax - Reply to #91

well that's shitty by his opponents, if they were aware of that.

<< Comment #92 @ 02:25 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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JETSET_

Nice :)

Goodluck with your new home Gareth

<< Comment #103 @ 03:45 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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funkeh

remembres me when kni was playing ut2k3 along with tudoz, stimp and dize.. He once asked me to go on a HLDM server to show me what a fast game really was. After 3 minutes of hearing weird sounds, not seeing him anyhow and dying about 55 times i agreed and left :oD

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tom - Reply to #103

good times

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dillyo - Reply to #103

I joined a clan with kni and tudoz :]

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dize - Reply to #103

/me slaps funky with a large pizza hut shop
hows things?

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funkeh - Reply to #202

hi m8 :)

things are fine - moved in with girl and stuff.. playing wow now :)

<< Comment #107 @ 04:10 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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bigwest

is it me or is this avi laggy as hell. seems likes its going at 10fps

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netrex - Reply to #107

Works fine here. Probably the codec messing with you. What specs do you have?

<< Comment #111 @ 04:20 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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fazz

i would like to know if this game really plays well with 2 equaly good players vs eachother, like garpy vs garpy, i feels like one garpy could win with 50-0 one map and the other way around on the next. tell me im wrong garpyy

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Precizion - Reply to #111

It would depend on the map. For instance, on boot_camp it would not be that uncommon to see a score of something like 2-2 with two equal players, even after 20 minutes of play. But this is mainly because the map is just so huge (its probably bigger than The Rose in q4) and an extremely bad dueling map (though many will disagree with me).

Between two good players on a map like stalkyard, the games tend to be pretty close because even though it is extremely easy to spawn rape someone, it is also very easy to kill the person in control due to headshots (only takes one bow to the head, or one grenade planted on the ceiling to retake control). Think Painkiller with the stakegun, except far worse.

<< Comment #112 @ 04:25 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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manic

OMFG GARETH U ROCK :D these demos are mad o_O coolest guy u'll ever meet too :)

<< Comment #131 @ 06:06 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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sudstah

Garpy is foolishly good

<< Comment #139 @ 06:32 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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X-term

and to think the counter counted downwards, amazing stuff!!

can't say that I've ever been as amazed by a demo as with this one.

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zeicon - Reply to #139

eh, try watching a good Q3 demo. Fox vs CZM @ aerowalk from ESWC for example... then notice the beatiful weapon combos, the nailbiting infights and the overall intensity of this extremely close match. Or watch the strategical complexity of a ZTN match between cooller and zero4. So what if the game is slower? That only means that the players have to hit more in order to beat their opponent.

Watching a guy fly around like an airplane while constantly making 180 degree turns and scoring 50-0 (or whatever) - with no real infights or armor control - was more annoying than entertaining.

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dillyo - Reply to #152

He was flying around so fast controlling the map, 1v1 on booty there is alot of ground a player can respawn at. This isn't fucking quake mate, blah blah wheres my armour controll. You can appreciate other games without comparing every element to quake :|

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zeicon - Reply to #161

armor control was also important in UT and PK, just to name a few other games. The strategical aspect that this adds is tremendous. Being able to control the gauss so you can fly around the map 300 km/h while your opponent can only "walk" around on the ground is just silly and probably explains why this game was so one-sided and extremely boring.

OMFG! HE'S GOING 300 km/h!!! CRAZIEST THING I EVER SAW!!!!!

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dillyo - Reply to #164

Well you must be skilled enough to hear the opponent and maybe hide untill you can get said weapon or a long jump pack, but people with the gauss are not invincible you just gotta know your game.And yeah the other games with armours are totally bowing down on quake as the ownage game, PK for sure is a game created by quake fans?
It's just different. Nothing wrong with change mate.. it is possible for you to leave your house..go now.

quake forever tho \o/

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dillyo - Reply to #167

and the weapons respawn quite fast so it's never like you can't get a weapon coz they're being collected and timed.

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Precizion - Reply to #164

Armour was still important on some maps in HLDM, and to not have control of it was a major disadvantage at times. Perhaps it wasnt as valuable as in other games though, mainly because of the ability to headshot people. This is why 1v1 games tended to be more about denying your opponent a decent weapon than anything, which despite the fast respawn time (15s), was quite possible due to the long jump (which people also fought for control over) and bunnyhopping.

It was certainly different, and at times could be just as tactical as any game (there was a lot more focus on positonal play like in the old quakes, rather than item timing/running). And whilst I was on of those who did try and encourage mappers to get more armour in their maps, it wasn't that big a deal due to the nature of the gameplay. For example - discounting getting a headshot in - killing someone with 100/50 and a longjump is a lot tougher to do than killing someone with 100/150 in Q4. Of course, this does go to show just how over powered the long jump could be, but thats a whole other matter.

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X-term - Reply to #164

I don't think you really understand how big the map actually is..... Bootcamp is quite a big map with a lot of items on it but garpy is in control 99 percent of the time. Just because you can't see the strategy in it, doesnt mean it isn't there.

And tbh, his bow aim is amazing

Edited by X-term at 14:49 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #144 @ 06:41 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH

lal this is the first time i choose filefront over levi, downloaded from levi 2 times and 2 times it lagged out @ 90% (can't resume)

<< Comment #150 @ 07:07 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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nthexwn

No! This is impossible! Bullshit! ROFL

When I played HLDM back in 1998 we used to do funny pre-historic things like staying on the ground and taking more than a fraction of a second to kill each other. I didn't realize how far this game could go!

I've got 33 gigs of skill videos and nothing in there is as amazing as this Garpy replay!

:-O

His mouse sensitivity is such that some of his snap x-bow shots seemed to take place entirely between frames! Couple that with his inhuman ability to aim by sound and kill through walls and you're basically looking at a living multi-hack!

It's like DeFrag meets FPS dueling meets the fast forward button! :-S

I think my brain needs to shut down for a week now while it processes what I've just seen...

<< Comment #157 @ 07:25 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Larvi

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1139391900/Ste...Gets_Owned

the video is insane,but it gets boring after a while :'( too much ownage

Edited by Larvi at 13:26 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

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<< Comment #180 @ 08:35 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #157

yeah that guy definitely gets owned by that kiddo

<< Comment #296 @ 15:58 CST, 11 February 2006 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #157

haha nice vid ;)

<< Comment #159 @ 07:29 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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yay

Hm even though it's nice to see such a good dueller, the matches are kinda boring to watch after some minutes ;)

<< Comment #162 @ 07:37 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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GoiracH

can't someone with an ownage conn contact me on irc and send it to me ? :) kinda annoying 3 tries 3 fails (and now filefront 20kb's...) gg

<< Comment #289 @ 03:44 CST, 10 February 2006 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #162

if u havent got it yet try now, our server was under huge amount of pressure the day u tried (1.61TB of traffic generated) so maybe thats y

<< Comment #163 @ 07:45 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Aaron

As much as I apreciated the skill involved, the game just seemed mighty flawed and boring.

After the first minute is was just tedious, the speed thing however.... I could see QW being as fast had it the same type of large open maps and if the RL wouldn't inflict self damage. The second map seemd crazy small for the speed involved. I only skipped through it though since the first few mines drove me crazy.

I found UT / CS much more entertaining :( PK by far also... maybe I am just fucked up haha.

Edited by Zimmerman at 13:46 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #165 @ 07:54 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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bernwa

as a very old oldskool regular ag player, ive seen garpy's excellence day to day and ive seen this demo b4, and i cannot express how much skill is involved in the moves that he does, he is a truly awsome dm'er and i like to say that he uses a joystick.....thats ryt a joystick..... i dunno if he still does, but he did in ag.....

much respect garp......im glad to see that someone finally (after many many years) is recognising an ag player in mainstream esports...

respect.... (its about fkn time)

<< Comment #174 @ 08:15 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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draven-

garpy is my bitch :))

<< Comment #176 @ 08:20 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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pille

dillyo hldm pro

<< Comment #211 @ 11:32 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #176

PiLLEMAN: Replay ;)

<< Comment #307 @ 10:11 CST, 17 March 2006 >>

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dillyo - Reply to #176

ra4!

<< Comment #185 @ 08:57 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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link

i'm having problem downloading from levi, when i left this morning i was getting speeds like 150kb/s and it took ages to access the site, and now when i come home i can't open the file because it's corrupted -- whats up mates? :(

<< Comment #191 @ 09:41 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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j0k3r

nice to see a good HL movie :)

gj

<< Comment #192 @ 09:41 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (dslb-084-057-172-239.pools.arcor-ip.net)

after downloading almost 700mb, winrar tells me the file is corrupt.....

and again i ask myself, why not make 2 files..... not reloading it.

<< Comment #203 @ 10:48 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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sHORNY

make sure u got the latest winrar . www.rarlabs.com

<< Comment #204 @ 10:48 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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dize

oh yes nice to some late recoginition of hldm1.
those where the days.

<< Comment #206 @ 11:16 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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kesaale

you guys kidding ? this movie SUCKED, a 50-2 / 100-1 matches, definitely exciting. quality was very bad for the filesize.
guys' movement was nice but that's it, there was nothing spectacular because the match didn't even look even. most boring 40minutes of my life. -disappointed.

<< Comment #213 @ 11:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #206

Bad file size? What about 17.5MB per minutes? That's not bad IMO. Specially for the image quality it brought.

<< Comment #217 @ 11:46 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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kesaale - Reply to #213

dun like the compression errors, but you're right, it's not that bad :)

BUT I CONTINUE HATING IT ANYWAYS!

<< Comment #228 @ 12:39 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #217

;)

<< Comment #263 @ 17:35 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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rolf - Reply to #217

me want your 87-(-4) 10min game avi'ed!!!1111
or not

Edited by mantra` at 23:35 GMT, 8th Feb 2006

<< Comment #285 @ 16:44 CST, 9 February 2006 >>

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kesaale - Reply to #263

yup, uber boring

<< Comment #214 @ 11:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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LuCky Lu

damn, this guiz is realy too fast!
he always continues played hldm?

<< Comment #215 @ 11:34 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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xou

fast paced games VERSUS slow paced games. ( I don't care)
Anyway, that was a great idea to put those demos into a video. I really appreciate that :]

<< Comment #218 @ 11:57 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Zaccubus

GaRpy Was too damn good at this game there not much of control basis so garpy could be killed just as easy as everone else so he must of been doing somethng right he before his hd blow up he should his self playing 2nd best the world and the scoreline was like 40-0 and the other guy wasnt shit just shows how garpy roxed at this game Plus He USED A JOYPAD For Jump and to stafe and shit http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JBL1.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Fucking crazy shit NIce video M8

<< Comment #219 @ 12:09 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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^wrz^ - Reply to #218

um, what ? :)

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<< Comment #226 @ 12:35 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Zaccubus - Reply to #219

he used right hand mouse left hand a joypad for switch weapons jump and used the D pad as movement

<< Comment #232 @ 13:07 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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crazyivan - Reply to #226

Oh my gosh...three hands! He is good. :D

<< Comment #253 @ 16:43 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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ReY - Reply to #218

First I thought that was in English...but I was obviously wrong.

<< Comment #220 @ 12:16 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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IceNine

Nice movie! enjoyed watching it, very VERY skilled :D

<< Comment #222 @ 12:29 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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wEctro

Im all out of Chuck Norris lines so Ill just say AMAZING skills ;)

<< Comment #223 @ 12:30 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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fragmaster_

we spent hours playing hldm crossfire on private lans. such an awesome map :>

*push button*

<< Comment #230 @ 13:00 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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mefajpE^

Amazing

I didn't even see the opponent in a lot of situations ;]

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<< Comment #233 @ 13:23 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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kesaale

how ignorant

<< Comment #235 @ 13:25 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #233

Wha?

<< Comment #237 @ 13:33 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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kesaale - Reply to #235

read the other comments :P

<< Comment #234 @ 13:24 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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wari

lol i thought qw was fast...
hell what was that? he knew where the opponent was thru the walls etc... scary man! how fast can he think?

<< Comment #236 @ 13:26 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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sk!a

Wow. never knew it oculd be that fast. amazing aim and skill by garpy. Id like to see a game with some1 closer to his abilities.

<< Comment #240 @ 14:15 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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fuzz

Amazing skills, but sucky game.

And what sense have this player? Hes aim is fucked up, bus still he manages to hit enemy.

<< Comment #242 @ 15:08 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #240

Why do you think his aim is fucked up?

<< Comment #243 @ 15:19 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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fuzz - Reply to #242

I meaned that he has, not bad aim, but weird aim.

He spins ten times 360 degrees and aims exactly at enemy. During close combat it shows most, that jerky movement or smting. Hard to explain :-(

x_x

<< Comment #245 @ 15:28 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #243

I think I know what you mean =)

<< Comment #241 @ 14:46 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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oblivion

Gauss gun ain't got nothin' on the swinging hook

<< Comment #250 @ 16:20 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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bud

what amazes me the most is his sick aim.... never misses...sorta
O_o

Garpy ftw, he should have begun bootcampin pk when it got released and owned the WT :>

<< Comment #251 @ 16:27 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (user-d521af.user.msu.edu)

the picture of the video shows it recorded at an FOV of 90, which explains why the sensitivity looks so high cause the actual play was probably more like 130. If you just up your fov higher the mouse movement looks much slower.

If you do not play you dont understand how he knows where the guy is but after playing the map for several years its much easier to know, how do you know where the other guy is in q3dm6 to shoot that rocket or head him off? You use the clues things you see missing, knowing the spawn points and so on, of course there is also a3d sound in HLDM which is better then having wall hacks.

It is an ok demo but as said its boring if you do not understand the game the same way a counterstrike player does not understand why getting that armor or health in quake was so important or took so much skill to show up exactly at the second it was spawning and swoop through. The main problem with hldm was stated manytimes in the comments. spawn raping, when you give people a weapon like the gauss which, not just shoots but exlodes behind wall and propels you in the air faster then any jump in just about any game you have the power to completely own a map once you get stocked and your oponents only chance is a headshot if he can get an xbow or gauss to do it. For this reason even seeing 2 really good players go against each other in hldm makes one look like a total noob and is a good reason why the game could never be a competive game.

<< Comment #270 @ 17:59 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #251

It was a competitive game for 6 years or so at HLCCL.

<< Comment #272 @ 18:40 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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chuky - Reply to #251

i recorded it at fov 100

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<< Comment #254 @ 16:46 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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albator

those were the days indeed, I miss it :)

LEM FTW! :P

<< Comment #255 @ 16:48 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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mnz!

really weird gameplay. what scares me the most is, that i've played hldm several times on lan and i often didnt even know what happened :D

btw there is a nice short movie about the end of an ut04 match (rmzs vs astz) here:

http://www.own-age.com/vids/video.aspx?id=7183

<< Comment #257 @ 16:59 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Max Rebo

Skilled player. Flawed game. Two instakill hitscan weapons are two too many.

<< Comment #264 @ 17:37 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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rolf - Reply to #257

true

<< Comment #297 @ 04:28 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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bobbles - Reply to #257

true there are two instant kill hitscan weapons, but one does need to be charged, the other zoomed, prior to making them a 1 hit kill.

<< Comment #302 @ 11:37 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #297

Then there is the magnum also.

<< Comment #265 @ 17:39 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (84-12-194-125.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk)

Garpy has just finished his first entry into the world of pro gaming. He played the last 4 stops of the CPL Painkiller tourny. PLacing 12th at his best, and 15th I believe at the World finals. All this after playing for just 5 months, a good 17 months behind all the other pros.

He is already signed for a Pro Q4 team, and is reguarly practicing with Voo, and more than holding his own.

About HLDM.

The modern FPS games, are easy in comparison to HLDM. DO not be fooled by how easy Garpy makes it look, the game is as hard as it gets, with most players still improving after 3-4 years playing it religously.

Garpy.

He used a Gravis Exterminator in his left hand, the anologue pad for movement, and the other various pads and buttons for weapon switching and text binds. It made his dominance even more ridiculous.

Garpy in HLDM, was simply untouchable at his prime, no one could even get close. At the time of the match with Lynx on Bootcamp, Lynx was considered to be the leader of the chasing pack, and Garpy had literally got back from a 3 week break in SA just 2 hours b4 that match.

I dont doubt for 1 second, that he will sit atop of the q4 world, only rivalled by the very very top players. But time will tell :)

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<< Comment #266 @ 17:40 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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rolf

nice content(if you overlook the spawnkills) but sucky game/maps

<< Comment #267 @ 17:43 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Dird

700mb and it was sh*t, that propeller thing sounded proper dodgy and the frags are crap to watch and hl sucks
0/10

<< Comment #271 @ 18:03 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #267

So's your mom.

<< Comment #295 @ 14:57 CST, 11 February 2006 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #267

Kind of what I thought aswell. The frags are like through the wall or the spamming of like 4 weapons at the same time... nothing was nice :<

<< Comment #269 @ 17:55 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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eLy

sickyish !

<< Comment #273 @ 18:48 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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Mogul

Is it possible to change your fov in AG?

<< Comment #274 @ 19:18 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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langley

And some ppl argue that the railgun in q3/q4 is overpowered :)

Well great games though, amazing even...
Insane movement and aim, man why didn't this guy switch over to q3? (or any other game that you could make money from playing)

Edited by langley at 01:20 GMT, 9th Feb 2006

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netrex - Reply to #274

Maybe he enjoyed HLDM too much ;) He's playing Q4 now though for TeK-9. Let's see how that turns out.

<< Comment #290 @ 11:39 CST, 10 February 2006 >>

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Ben - Reply to #276

atr*

<< Comment #275 @ 19:42 CST, 8 February 2006 >>

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donka '

promode just got shitted on

<< Comment #281 @ 15:05 CST, 9 February 2006 >>

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bud - Reply to #275

not really =)

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<< Comment #277 @ 13:22 CST, 9 February 2006 >>

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scorch-

he dies and gets killed once and has control back. he gets a kill and rings up 50 in control.

<< Comment #278 @ 14:05 CST, 9 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (user-d521af.user.msu.edu)

Yeah the stalkyard demo was a really bad one to watch not that bootcamp was great but from the start garpy gets the lucky spawn and jumps into the longjump game over from there on out and exactly why hldm could never amount to anything even though it had some really great skill sets that should definately be part of pro play. Turns into a spawn rape the whole time because the difference between being stocked and not stocked is too unbalenced. It would have been much better for someone to select a demo taht showed more the great gameplay in HLDM rather then just the how bad someone can rape another person aspect.

I see the fov was 100 not 90 still low but not as fast as people made it out to be guess they just are used to counterstrike or something.

<< Comment #287 @ 01:54 CST, 10 February 2006 >>

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Mirid

hot damn! that was... nice.

<< Comment #291 @ 13:14 CST, 10 February 2006 >>

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efplusplus

I'd rather see Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels with the same filesize!

<< Comment #293 @ 09:06 CST, 11 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #291

You do that then.

<< Comment #294 @ 12:36 CST, 11 February 2006 >>

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simonb

incredible!

<< Comment #298 @ 04:31 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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bobbles

I remember watching the bootcamp demo at least back when I had 28k (mind you that was just over a year ago) and just loving it. I never really liked hldm more than a muck around game at lans, always been impressed by the skill garpy had though.

<< Comment #299 @ 08:42 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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slash

can u make more movies of hldm games?
maybe 1 where garpy loses.

<< Comment #303 @ 11:39 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #299

There was one hwere he was loosing and caught up greatly at the end, but not entirely. It's just awsome :) Someone mentioned it here somewhere.

<< Comment #306 @ 12:24 CST, 15 March 2006 >>

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mew - Reply to #303

yea that was against that USA crossbow master. cant remember his name, but the match was on stalkyard. garpy made an insane fragstreek in the end but just barely missed a tie. >D

<< Comment #301 @ 10:33 CST, 12 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (dsl-sjkgw4-feedf800-22.dhcp.inet.fi)

Whoa
That's pretty fucking amazing.

<< Comment #305 @ 06:33 CST, 27 February 2006 >>

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Anonymous (141.85.252.73)

AWESOME-O

<< Comment #308 @ 20:23 CDT, 3 April 2006 >>

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Anonymous (lutn-cache-6.server.ntli.net)

i have played AG for 4 years now and i play with garpy regularly(even now... he has been playing a fair bit since the start of this www.redrum-demos.com 1o1 tourney) none of you really have a clue how close the game can be.. killing someone in control of the box room in stalkyard is known to be the hardest thing to do but still can be done fairly easily... if i play garpy now with all armour weapons and control start and he has nothing in a bad spawn area... give him 5 mins hell take control and beat me... marginly ;) but he will... sometimes you just have to be fast and attack the controller a few times and then kill him to take control or atleast enter the struggle for control. theres always a way of doing it or we wouldn't think about playing a map like that

also at the time of these demos garpy wasn't just the best he was untouchable to the point of sheer frustration... go figure
Rapt0r

<< Comment #309 @ 12:13 CDT, 12 May 2006 >>

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Anonymous (searcht.gotadsl.co.uk)

Heh, looks like this had found its way to some of his old HL buddies (me included) and its good that people outside the HL scene can see what an amazing player he was/is.

The best thing about him (and meeting him in real ife at various lans) was the fact it never went to his head. he was the most relaxed, decent guy i met. This translated nicely to his opponents as well. I was always a decent player but nothing special in comparison, yet i could still have a good match (especially on Undertow as he hated that map and I'd always pick it! hehe) with him as he wouldnt go all out and ruin the fun, he'd let me get my shots in and just play well enough to beat me. Was always a pleasure to play him even considering the rapings you'd always invariably get.

Was funny and strangely errie to watch him play though. He'd be laid back, jobpad and mouse in hand (yup no keyboard.. though using one never seemed to dull his performance) and looking like he's nearly falling asleep.. yet you'd look at the screen and he'd be tauing halfway across the map at lightning speed headshotting everything in sight!

Good lad our Garpy.. a big shout out to him!

SuperFLY (HLCCL)

<< Comment #310 @ 20:15 CDT, 12 May 2006 >>

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Anonymous (84-12-83-172.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk)

Earlier some one quoted that Garpy would be the Q4 no.1, and would only be rivalled by the very best, loos like taht prophetic statement may well find itself to be true.

Garpy is one of those rare natural talents, a freak of nature, so to speak.

http://planetquake.ingame.de/cup/?action=Disp...p;PID=2854

<< Comment #311 @ 20:57 CDT, 12 May 2006 >>

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netrex - Reply to #310

Looks like a pretty good track record. But isn't he still in TeK-9?

<< Comment #312 @ 21:24 CDT, 4 July 2007 >>

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Anonymous (modemcable222.234-130-66.mc.videotron.ca)

All the download links are down :( Does somebody have a mirror? I looked in search engines but nothing that wasn't a dead end/link came up.

Thank you in advance

<< Comment #313 @ 22:01 CDT, 4 July 2007 >>

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