Fucking obviously. We need lvl^ to do all major lans for all of quakelive now, until/if they fuck up 1 then we can start to look for others, but the work they just did at dreamhack won't be forgotten by anyone for a long long time.

Do you guys realize that the VODs have been ready for posting for months now? They were ready to be uploaded almost immediately after QuakeCon.

We are QLTV cannot do it until we're given the green light. Part of the contract was that id software owns the VODs (this was part of the reason LO3 did not cover QuakeCon 2010).

Level Up, Live on Three, or anyone else in this position would still have their hands tied. There's legality in these things, sadly, and the entire world isn't black and white.

So, please direct your angry rants away from QLTV, which like Level Up is a completely community-run, volunteer organization.

I think this was more addressed to the QuakeCon organizers

Maybe, but it's still valid that no matter who runs the casting, it doesn't solve the problems that caused the delays in uploading the content.

u sucked with ur spinning logo and all other stuff anws

fuck yeah

I agree. It doesn't matter whether they will be forced to delay VODs or not; they did a great job at DH and deserve due to their activity online. The own3d stream solution is better too and I remember watching good matches online cast by QLTV that I had given up waiting on the VODs for so it's not all down to legalities.

Doing an event one year does not entitle you to do it for subsequent years.

levelup should stay away from quakecon. for their own reputation's sake.

:P

We would of course love to go to every event and help cover the quake action like we try to online. But it is unlikely we could cover the costs ourselves like the guys that went to DreamHack did, and I doubt donations would generate enough money to cover it all either.

Well just get one or two to go, post a thread up on a few sites, see what prelim donations you get and see if the estimates get close to what you need.

If they do then (not before) start taking money so you can send one or two over, or even if you come up short, it might be enough money to knock off a massive chunk of the cost, so instea of a £450 flight, it'll cost £150 each that way even if you swallow some costs, you get a cheap mini holiday for yourself aswell.

I'm sure you could raise enough for two flights and a shared room for a few days. Maybe 1500-2000 dollars.
Perhaps the players who win these big priozes can chip in some prize money, or start a small fund to put a small % of winnings in for coverage as they benefit from it too.

Just need to make sure you got the bandwidth like you had a in Sweden.

Failing that just someone with a camera, recording games, goign around and constant updates on a website.

I dont care if I see an over the shoulder video 30 mins after.

Secondly, how hard would it be for idsftware to code in a simple FTP upload into Quake?

It would be simple, simply define the ftp url and password and as long as the machine as net connection (which it probably will) the demo will get upload straight after the game to a repository.

www.quakelive.com/demos

Simpes. Fuck I'll do it myself if someone can promise it'll actually get inculided. This is basic stuff.

The FTP / Demo thingy should have been in QL from the beginning anyway... but the problem is not thinking of improvements / nice features for QL.

The problem is ID nog giving a damn about the game

I say let q'con have its slow and painful death with QL

no!

let just make QL opensource

yes please.. i despise QL.tv

theyre so bush-league

QL.tv are still great but i do prefer ischju!

yeah think the way qcon is/was handled reflects badly on qltv, its not like lvl^ can do miracles and make qcon run smoothly. and its way different to fill a few hours here and there when ql is down, but totally different to entertain quake nerds for 2 days straight while everything is totally fucked at qcon. qltv did what they could i guess

nevertheless, lvl^ did an amazing job at dh

I could listen to the players talk about random crap for 2 days, like voogd at DH. It is almost more entertaining than the matches.