:) I hope everyone enjoys it

mirror

Thanks for the mirror! Congrats on 3rd in CPL Winter, too! :D

(03:23:42) (+Zimmerman) someone make the news post
(03:23:43) (+pmp-news) [esreality.com] Q4MAX 0.71 Released » http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=968124

melachi is quicker than a cheetah on speed :(

you deserved the plusses man, he's a cheater :-([

o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g
o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g o-m-g
w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f
w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f w-t-f

every time you post it reminds me of some cs player

haha no way.

hahahahaha. Are you harry poter or something? FYI He was a CS player indeed!

Shattering news...

You don't need to be Harry Potter to suspect that.

:O you swing both ways. http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=968547#pid968886

my post here was tottaly ironic -_-

:)

clan arena on q3dm6 ? ;e

*fap fap fap*

Just played some on Mr. server - damn good fun :D

wp ech ^^

was just a matter of time b4 we had the q3dm6 remake + clan arena :)

I actually consider the addition of Clan Arena as one of the most important things in this release. CA was without a doubt the most popular game mode for casual gamers in Quake 3 (later on at least), and this could really help kick start the community; get new players interested in trying it out.

CA is the CS of the Quake series, it's much easier for people who are complete newbie’s to enjoy and get a few kills now and then.

Impressive work, kudos to the Q4M team.

I think you'll find that RA was (is) more popular than CA!

Well I can only judge by the scandinavien scene, and it seems to me the CA servers was way more popular during the last year of Quake 3, then their RA3 counterparts.

Edit: Either way, it doesn't matter. RA4 isn't out yet, and this game mode is by far the most newbie friendly to hit the Quake series.

isnt RA nothing else than a stand alone CA mod ? O.o :>

not the point. tho.

Excessive is pretty much identical to CA in popularity.

yeah even more so now....hell of a laugh a bit of exesive and xtrm exesiive.

no timeout? must be hard to implement since neither xbattle nor q4max managed too

Yes, pausing the game is extremely problematic. There were many testing/breaking sessions with Rhea and osp in both quake2 and quake3....so I can only imagine quake4 being the same thing. Early implementations are usually plagued with glitches like, projectiles keep moving, or sound gets mucked up or game timers get 'off' or damages right before/after pause dont get counted, or get counted twice, etc etc.

It is certainly a very doable thing, but I would not expect a pause until later in the development. However the q4max is a very talented team and this isn't their first rodeo, so they may be able to avoid some of the pitfalls of previous quake versions.

-wg

NO TIMEOUT!?
FUCK this means i cant play with my stupid WiFi connection which lags all the time :)

yea. afaik it took the CPMA dev team a while before they fixed that bug where the game would 'store' all your mouse movements during a timeout and then execute them when the game resumed. OSP still had it the last time i checked.

So nice... Really lives up to the expectation from what you can read about it, and a lot more. Well done.

Edit: Tested it out, omg, feels like a completely different game, and the ATDM gamemode seems nice too.

ATDM should be used in all major leagues/ladders imho

what's atdm?

From Q4MAX.COM news post:

Included in the distribution is something to prompt some thought and discussion: a custom mode called ATDM (Advanced TDM) which uses a strong tiered armor system, 90 second quad respawn, no powerup drop and with droppable weapons enabled. However, gameplay changes to the ‘vanilla’ base are not in the plan.

Sounds like a good idea. Shame you still need an awesome machine to get 60fps solid while in battle :(

Niiiiiiiiiice

ATDM for teh win >:

it has begun...
; D

quick look over the changelog seems very nice...
gj

RIP X-Battle

NOOO!!!





:)

q4max ez $$$

q4mp is now worth playing!

even little features like ui_autoAction "demo"
makes the game for more completeeee.

YEAH! Now change CB TDM/CTF to Q4MAX! ;p

wtf threw up a server but when i run around its like walking(if i walk its even slower) like no forward momentum, bug? (clean cfg)

I had this too - for some reason pm_speed was set really low

Nice release though!

ah nice thx, must be a bug though that pm_speed is 160 by default not 320

Default is 320 - odds are you've got an old config in there.

Yup I used my previous cfg

Most likely a bug on listen server only - dedicated server is probably ok.

EDIT - Ah, bad guess ^

If anyone has any trouble with their background in q4max, delete your old folder and do a fresh install. Should fix it.

Nice one Q4Max, you don't disappoint!

Bugs/Missing:

- CA scoreboard doesnt reset after new game
- Can't see players stats after CA game ends
- Need damage values!

Other than that - excellent. Working team overlay (with icons - sexyness, means you dont have to read the location, can use peripheral vision instead!), auto screeny/demo. So obvious how Q4Max and XBM focus on different things. Q4Max is the choice for competition, simple as.

I hope they fixed demos issue, black demos, delay demos and such, need same vars for demos and MP !!

I don't want to change anything to be able to watch my demos. Is that possible in new q4max ??

Not sure, but black demos comes from tweaking certain comkmands for pure FPS configs.

I cant ellaborate because i cant remember the comands and im a tad watsed :}~

Great to hear they are doing CTFS, its a very enjoyable mod.

Can't praise the team enough, well done.

wtf.. Q4 freezes after Q4MAX menu appears.. can't move pointer or anything..

0 fps, try removing your old config.

same thing here, removing configs doesnt help..

image_usePrecompressedTextures 0

We love you Q4Max! <3

Also, a big thx to the new members of the team, maybe its just me but I like seeing things like other mod authors working with and within Q4Max, well done all.

Ok it doesn't freeze, but i get 0 fps and the mouse pointer takes about 10 seconds to react after having moved it around on the menu..

Any idea what's going on?

same here.

must be something with norway sucking and sweden pwning

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool probably

loooooooool!!!

go to bed :P

God Jul forresten! :D

god jul \o/

Enjoy your "cheap" systembolaget booze for xmas :p

You actually believe we buy alcoholic beverages from systembolaget? They're going to cut the alcohol tax big time because people buy their booze in estonia/latvia/other neighbour countries or produce it at home :P

hehe

getting same problem, any ideas yet?

Don't tell me X-battle is dead.

seeing how the teamoverlay works, yes xbattle is dead.
waiting for cb eurocup to change to max in tdm too.(no excuse not to)

Let's see how other leagues/champs react.

and q4max feels solid to play. feels like q3 in fact while xbattle still is very laggy on my PC even though i'm maintaining a stable 63 fps.

Wait, does it have "Ready" and "Team-overlay"?

It has a WORKING teamoverlay.

q4 allows ready/notready out of the box.

but it doesn't "show" who is ready and who is not, but it does now with this release.

yes.

STILL no teamoverlay and STILL no changeable rail layout ( i hate that fatt railray)

I think you need team m8s on your team for it to work

Nice ;)

There's no team overlay on FFA, no.
There is on team games and ctf, etc :-)

You can change the rail in Q4v though?

autorecord :D

green line in lagometer aaaah

so who ever is bugged by q4 netcode reacting poorly to fps drops this is your salvation ^_^

this sounds great!

All it needs now is a timer count up option....... (waits for the rath of arQon for this comment)

that'd be nice

:(((

yes please

you did well (at CPL) with a real sport timer ... why crying?

and y u crying?

I don't

ye and he did!

Its a bad idea. All it will do is end up making times different for everyone and make communication a bitch. You have to pick ONE and go with it.

yes please

ye:/

Timer counting up pls?

also, very nice release :)

That would be very nice!

indeed.

[+] for u:)

I fluncked owt of skool in 1st graid. Never got abowt to lerning subtraxion :<

And English! keke ^^

Am I the only one that has a white menu background and can't read anything on the menu except for what's in red?

what? :)

When I first load up the mod in q4, it gives me the q4max logo in the corner and the rest of the screen is white. I have to move my cursor over the menu options to turn them red to see what I'm clicking on. All the menu options are also in white but don't change color, which means I can't tell wth I'm changing to what.

I've got that exact same problem man. I've yanked out all non-essential pk4s without success. Gone with a clean install of q4max from the 2 different sources, and deleted the original q4max folder a number of times.

I really don't know what could be causing this, I've gone with the default cfg every time.

try:

image_usePrecompressedTextures 0
vid_restart

I made a pk4 with the CPL branded background from the 070 release.. it's too bad my grandparents are sleeping in my room, which is where said pak file resides.

i had same problem, but i replaced bg_q4m.tga and bg_q4m.dds in gfx\guis\mainmenu with same files from q4max 0.5 and whitescreen gone

Try image_usePrecompressedTextures 0 and then vid_restart!

Awesome man!

That fixed it instantly, you have my gratitude in the form of a [+]

:D

Awesome, thanks. Now maybe you might be able to tell me why when I move around it feels like I'm walking instead of running.

pm_speed is set to 160 with old cfg's or something ;D

pm_speed is set to 160 with old cfg's or something ;D

yeah there has to be something else that affects that because it didnt do it in older releases. also when that is at 0 i get some serious lag goin and frame drops.

awesome update, still have no fucking idea what r_lightScale does.

its like q3's r_intensity afaik.

lightscale controls the color intensity.

Load up a map & bring down the console & type r_lightScale 3 (default is 2) & you will see how the colors in the map change.
Best used with vertex light. The higher the number the more intense the colors.

It's a festivus miracle!! ;-)

Thanks for the great release guys.

Quake 4 with vertex & no bobbing feels like a whole new game, clean & smooth.
Also love the user interface, nice & simple.

i still got weaponmovement tho :[[[[[[[[

If there was a way to stop that damn gun wobble it would probably make my entire holiday :D

ui_showgun "0"

well arQon said there is no weapon wobble :DDDDDD

ui_showgun 0 was NOT what I had in mind.

and if I recall correctly, arQon removed nonfunctional commands, a few of which may at one point have had something to do with weapon wobble. They were removed because they did nothing.

yer but he told me his weapon doesn't move. like cg_drawgun 2 in cpma/osp. i just can't get it to stop moving ;D

yeah me neither, I thought I'd hit paydirt with the

g_mpweaponanglescale
g_mpweaponanglesway

commands, but they're disabled by default in multiplayer and appear to do nothing even when enabled via an autoexec or offline :(

festivus for the rest of us!!!! Gotta love Seinfeld

[+]

***Q4MAX Team Please read!!!***

Please add binding functionality to _impusle(x) !!! It makes to sense not to allow additional commands to be binded to a key together with weapon change commands!!!

Thanks...

Pretty sure Raven are looking at it, may be something more then the SDK can help?

add: CPMA chat tokens
#a armor
#h health
#i nearest significant item
#l nearest significant item spawnpoint
#w current weapon and ammo
use ## if you actually want a # to show up in chat

Q4MAX FTW !!!111

whats the command for teamsay?

say_team ?

sayTeam

ok don't have Q4 on this machine so I was just guessing :o

chg: chat appears as "player: green text"

chg: teamchat appears as "(player): cyan text"

bind x "sayTeam 'Dropping #w near #l; dropweapon; emote grab_a'"

lmao @ emote ;DDDDDDDDDDD

When I use the tokens ingame they work allright, but if I try to bind them to a key (like bind "x" "sayTeam #i is avial") I just end up saying "i is avial".

Any sugestions?

Try putting the token inside single speech marks eg bind "x" "sayTeam '#i' is avial"

Althought I havn't tried it, it might work because that's what you have to do for colours.

That worked!
Thanks alot man!

Great release, but individual scores do not reset upon start of new rounds in Clan Arena mode - tested on the D|S server

scores in warmup also are added to the score total in CA (dunno about other gametypes)

additionally, it crashes alot on some servers I have noticed.

:(

germens have no excuse to use xbm now, q4max has clanarena

oh shit i just made you more popular than me.

have it back :D

let's start a [+]war :P

no. we called a truce already but nice try :P

oh well its the holiday season.

I hit arqon with a [+] !

WHERE IS HE?!?!?!?

JOIN THE FORCES!

RACIST!!!!!1

clanbase, whatcha gonna do?

edit : we need more bandwagons now.

enjoy it peeps :O)

Well played q4max.

on loading q4max, im gettin a white screen on the main menu area as well as showing up all the options (settings) only on hovering mouse over it where it is red. Anyone know how to fix this ?

Read up a few...

Ech, you just made my fucking day, that white screen was ANNOYING. Thanks and ya ashr had something to do with it

why cant we have a timer that counts up... is it that huge of a deal?

is it a huge deal that you have it? i dont see the point in it, people who suck at maths wont know how much is left coz it will say like 13:46 and he wont know its 1 min 14 left. Down is so much easier in knowing the time so its more likely people will push for a comeback coz they know exactly how much time they have left. Its also what most people are used to using...

i fail to see even a hint of truth in your post

In duel, there s no problem having 2 different timers, but in TDM there is a big problem announcing item times.

Oh yes, you want me to have same timer as the rest of my team ? I don't want.
You care about me ? No. So i d'ont care about you.

Stop shiting and keep learning substractions.

Read #223 for a simple solution instead of fucking wind.

I have no idea what you just said, and I read your post 4 times now. I have no problem with a countdown timer, but I, too, would prefer the timer to count up. Makes it easier for me personally to time items.

just a matter of habits.

http://www.q4max.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97&start=15

For those too lazy to click on the link:

"I take RA at 15:00
I say "[email protected]"
You, as timer-counting-up newb have clock at 5:00
So for you, RA respawns at :25, not :35

It simply doesn't work in team games unless everyone uses the same setting, which'll never happen on pubs (or if you have teammates who aren't VQ3'ers, since every other games uses countdown). So we HAVE to have one setting for everyone, and since Q4's default is to count down, that's what the setting is.

The next automatic mindless response is "well, how about just for DM then?". Virtually everyone who plays DM also plays some form of team game, so either they continue to avoid getting used to it, or they screw up when they switch between them. End result: everyone adopts countdown timers anyway."

for the record i don't agree with what arQon says, i was just posting why q4max aren't putting in a counting up timer, at least for the moment.

that's CPMA-like :/

P.S: So all the q3-pros were noobs?

no, just narrowminded and cant accept changes..

i bet you would be whining if it was the other way around :)

nah im cool with adapting.. i even embrace it.. who want everything served on a silver plate.. ? oh wait dont tell me.. q3ers :p

guess you're on of those who never generalize aswell.. oh wait

*gasp* Not CPMA like!

I think you'll find a lot of features will be CPMA like because they have already been tested and discussed at length before going into CPMA.

x-battle was able to find a way to do both and have them work together so if someone has a countdown timer and someone has a countup they work together and doesnt get confusing.

hint: voicecomm................
xbm just copy/pasted a possible solution from the esreality folder.

The thing is, arQon is not against a timer counting up but against having two diffrent timers. I really don't see why ppl can't get used to the timer going up and have to continue asking about it.

If your team is not smart/organised enough to esablish a rule about timers, you do not deserve to win/are too sucky to timeup anything.

And would it be really hard to integrate a filter (activated by a tag) that just does this:

Player A has timer down.
Player B has timer up.

Player A picks RA (let's say 45 sec) at 10:05 on his "clock". He activates the bind "RA @ #taghere"
Player B has his timer set to UP so the game will "convert" that #taghere to fit HIS timer, si it'll display "RA @ 40" (the match is 15 minutes ..)

If your team is not smart/organised enough to establish a teamspeak conversation, you do not deserve to win/are too sucky to play anything.

If a team uses teamspeak to communicate during matches, this team is organised enough to have a rule about timers.

And what's the fucking relation with ts is the first place? Text with tags is perfect to time up items, ts is more of a tactical communication for more "complex" things, such as telling one's exect position or status.. Using ts to timeup items only creates misunderstanding and confusion, simply use a bind to sayteam or "resay" the time in case of problems..

What I see is a complete non argument, just stay fucking realistic and don't try to search shit where it ain't any.

And what's the fucking relation with ts is the first place? Text with tags is perfect to time up items, ts is more of a tactical communication for more "complex" things, such as telling one's exect position or status.

Are you serious ? team overlay is enough "for more "complex" things, such as telling one's exect position or status." Teamspeak is for timing.


we don't want to choose, we want it to be standard.

we don't want to use team chat for timing, we want teamspeak.

we want you to read this twice or more.

Your team overlay shows what your teammate is going to do next?
Wow, nice cfg!

voicecomms.... And even if you can agree on a clock to use by the entire team, it would prolly still mean half of them use a clock they rather didn't/ arent used to. It causes more trouble than it fixes, just learn to live with this clock (it ain't hard, really)

As I stated 1 comment prior to you: "Use text to time up items", or even display both timers, so everyone is happy..

if it is for quads, it's much easier to use voicecomms cause when you don't know if it's at 32 or 34, you can say 'at about 33'. And if you have two timers displayed at the same time you STILL can be confused. Learn to time downwards, it's easy and after a while you don't even have to count, you just connect the two numbers in your head (like when you pick up ra at 7.18, you KNOW the new one will spawn at 6.43)

surely if you picked up RA at 7.18 the next one will spawn at 6:53 no? maybe you're getting a counting down and counting up timer confused :|

hehe well actually it's because I started timing in dueling and started with mh, which does prove my point tho, that you connect the two numbers without calculating :)

fix: (RB) HB switch time was broken


I HATE YOU!!!!!!!

*puts on careface*

Great release, hope to see that count-up timer though ;]. Team overlay and cpm teamsay macros are great :]

nice job team q4max. n1, <3, first born, etc

cg_enemymodel "keel/pm"

not working :<

JUST KIDDING, i dont want keels :P

i know i do:)

I want keel

Any model that sounds different would be nice - if it has to be an anoying sound like bones I dont care as long its different from the rest :)

any model that is remotely as big as the hitbox would do.

i want keel :<

2nd line of msg in chat will turn yellow
force enemy colors dosent seem to be working
no timer up down options and change location ( yes i know arqon dont want to add count up timer)
random crashes when playing
listen server pm_speed reduce by 1/2

How strange i just d/l'ed it and runa listen server. pm_speed was 320.

And now will we see the mod on your dedicated server? ]:P pls ]:D

force enemycolors works.

R_lightscale is unlocked so you can use it to brighten the game instead of r_gamma and r_brightness in vertex mode.

With r_vertexlight 1, the game is very dark. If you brighten it with r_gamma and r_brightness, you get an ugly, washed-out picture. Using lightscale instead, will brighten everything but the hug, menus, etc, and maintain the intergrity of the visuals. :)

Enjoy.

While r_brightness is pretty good for pumping up brightskins :D

good stuff I was hoping you would do that.

:)

this is great news for all the non-german q4 players out there!

merry christmas to everyone by the way :)

ANOTHER RACIST!

hahaha zeke
HAHAHA:

jävla jultomte!
nisse! julklapp motherfucker!

god jul zeke

God Jul! Hope you get a nice 'Juleaften'!

I'm off to 'celebrate' christmas now, BBL...

wtf is jul?
I like julmust :)

Jul = Christmas
God Jul = Merry/Happy Christmas

I LIKE JULMUST - whats the Must part in Julmust? Like, Christmas-must? :D

must is a kind of drink.. kind of coca cola-like drink, but as some say with an aftertaste of a nice beer .. :p

theres julmust (christmas) and påskmust (easter)

same shit different labels

Th swedish word must is translated to must/juice in english. Either way I don't like julmust :>

dude after drinking a bottle of julmust i pwn.

is manmust what i think it is?....trying to learn a bit of swedish atm dunno why just think its a good spot. can count to 7 lol yep 7 oh apart from 4 can never remember it six and seven are cool, sex and sju/shoe love the the way its spelt.

One day gonna get me a pen pall how sad..........think it will be quite fun tbh gets ones brain working..

Hehe...manmust isn't in the swedish dictionary...yet ;)

Noll, ett, två, tre, fyra, fem, sex, sju, åtta, nio, tio, elva, tolv, tretton, fjorton, femton, sexton, sjutton, arton, nitton, tjugo.
That's zero to twenty. Practice, practice, practice! =)

Ska vi ha sex klockan sex?

Hehe ;)

:)

thank god im am austrian
we are even lamer

no docs includet?
no console opening with the ^ key only?

gah :/

#115

com_allowconsole "1"

:P

Wow, great stuff.
I have not played it yet but this will compliment my g5 and Openal soundcard very nicely over the christmas holidays!

which one are you getting?
Please write how you like it when you've tested it :)

how can i use clan arena ? kinda newb here

callvote mode ca

q4max all the way from now on

xbattle has left the building.

Just finished my third config, had to because else it would become a big mess. On q4base everything is to dark now with all those mod and map tweaks, etc whine etc.

I've got a couple of questions.

In the competition menu there is an option "Light detail level". When changing this i see no difference on the map. Is this because i enabled vertexlight or is it because battlemod magically enhanced all the other mods with their ambient light thing?

In the system menu under audio there is an option called "World sounds". At first i thought it would remove the ambient sounds as in the edge, but it had no effect. Perhaps because i didn't do a s_restart, but i'd like to know the console command for it, because i didn't see it back in the docs.

Is there a way to load a bot in q4 (lan mode), so you can tweak a bit localhost? Just like /addbot in q3.

The next things are questions/requests.

I just hate the timer being in the top of the screen. In battlemod and q4base it as the left. Is there any way i can replace the timer to the left (or right) of my screen again, and if not, can you please put such an option in the next release?

Battlemod unlocked the crosshairsizes from its ridiculous set vq4 sizes. Now im playing (in battlemod) with a large round circle with a dot in it, a q3 crosshair. I've played with such a crosshair for a long time, and i like because you can aim with the dot, or you could choose to focus on waiting until an opponent is inside the large circle. With a max fixed crosshairsize of 48 the opponent doesn't fit in the circle, so the whole idea gets screwed up. Please unlock crosshairsize in q4max too.

for the lightscale thingy, try r_lightscale in console while ingame, you'll immediatly see the difference.

Yes i know, it works nice. But that isn't the setting i am on about: r_lightdetaillevel didn't have any (visible) effect.

cause you use vertex. if there is only an ambientlight, how the hell should lightdetaillevel shut off lights ?D:

yeah I hate the timer up top too, I find it really hard on my eyes to quickly glance straight up. I much preferred where it was (on the left) in q4base.

Vertexlight overides lightdetail level. However, it's still useful for people that like some lights rather than just ambient (I like ldl5 for instance - a good balance between performance and looks).

s_ambient / "World Sounds" requires a restart (not just snd_restart, a full map restart) to take effect.

dno if this is what u mean, but u can set the crosshairsize, with cl_crosshairsize (or so)

Yes, but at a max of 48.

For battlemod im using:
seta g_crosshairCustomFile "gfx/guis/crosshairs/crosshair_q3_1.tga"
seta g_crosshairSize "75"

seta g_crosshairSize "75"

Thats just cheating!

then i've cheated in q3 for over 2 years

u should of been banned from xs4all ca tbh! :P

where to get irc scorebot for q4?

I believe it is being worked on...

well ... the new release got teamsettings .... goobbey x-battel :D

great stuff.

please either fix the build-in zoom-sensitivity or allow a wider range for the FOV. cant properly zoom atm :/

No bots?

Failed to spawn entity with classname 'model_player_tactical_transfer' of type 'rvModviewModel'

I cannot watch any of the cpl demos because of this mistake? Any tips for me ???

use the 0.70 version

add: g_feedScorebot (default 0)
provide match information to external tools (Score_Time, Score_Marine, etc)
you must never feed a scorebot after midnight

GREATEST README I'VE EVER READ

hmz got a rail on phrantic in warmup mode

I tried to play the recorded demos between cooller and toxic. I renamed the demos into demo2 demo3 ... and put them into q4max/demos/[here]

But I get the following message:

stopped demo playback of 'demos/demo2.netdemo'
********************
ERROR: Failed to spawn entity with classname 'model_player_marine_medic' of ty
pe 'rvVehicleDropPod'


Someone an idea?

demos is recorded in q4max 0.7, so you have to play it in 0.7 not 0.71

Every release all demos are incompatible? I guess/hope not.

That does not appear to be the problem, I also have this 'model_player_marine' error, and have in each release of q4Max, I have yet to be able to play any demo recorded in any version of q4Max - I can play demos with x-battle (not that that is much use right now, but still)

So does anyone have a solution to this playback of demos problem?

Sorry, that should have been to the previous poster.

PS if you do find a solution to this please IM me, I will do the same :)

Um clear your directory of all pak files but the ones for the demo.

If you have problems watching the demos, make sure

demo_enforceFS is set to 1

already tried that

SetRestartChecksums failed: no pak for checksum 0x47f81423

Have a look @ comment #356..
ps. Just to remind you, do load q4max b4 loading demo!

That worked gr8. Except for the little thing where Q4 INSTANTLY CLOSEs whEN TRYING TO wATCH A DEMO. =/

It works for everybody else, but not for you.
You must have those files in your q4max

pak001.pk4 /pak002.pk4 /pak010.pk4 /pak070.pk4 /pak070w.pk4 /q4max071.pk4 / q4max071l.pk4 / q4max071w.pk4

I have those and no more T_T

You don't provide any information either ! How do you espect to get help? I'm not Saida to guess what .cfg you have or what .pak files.
Go get information on www.q4max.com

some demos work. it's weird.

impulse?

what's your problem?

what!?

It might just be me but i gave this a quick go offline and theres a big red X with a square around it on the left bottom corner of my HUD, it overlaps where the Gauntlet entry is on the weapon bar, anybody know how to get rid of this?

EDIT: Nevermind, it was the lagometer, once i turned it off the red X went away, probably doesnt happen online so no biggie.

just amazing, exceeded my expectations so much. This mod is the sole reason why q4 has a promising future

and people should stfu whining about the timer, it doesnt take long to get used too. A counting up timer has zero advantages

A counting down timer has 0 advantages.

In fact it has disadvantages, since there are more people coming from Q3 OSP.

Thats like saying ramp jumps should be removed cos it disadvantages osp players

thats not true. most people find it easier to count upwards then downwards. its also more natural that way since the clock runs upwards too. theres no reason at all for counting down.

if you read what he said, he was saying pretty much what you just did.

Well done. Has there been any progress or even consideration taken into GTV?

I believe there is a team working on it but they are not part of Q4max, I read about this on gotfrag I believe.

As I understand it there are some technical reasons why GTV for Q4 might be a little longer in development/harder to come by at all...but I haven't (yet) looked into it myself.

I really don't see why, it's just people that connect to a server that only downloads and does not upload, and it needs to be carried along I suppose. I can understand how this can be difficult to make, but I can't see how it will be more difficult than other quakes.

q2 never had a gamers' tv afaik.

Don't even think RQ had it (QW did though with the excellent QTV).

I read an interview with the guy that make GTV, he did say it was an extremely hard project, but my argument was that it should not be so different from previous Quakes, not that it was easy :)

who was he anyway? i guess a more known website including a donation button wouldn't have hurt ;)

www.geeteevee.com

Bookmark it :o

not qtv, you are thinking about qizmo proxy.

Yep, the Qizmo TV feature.

Without knowing the specifics, I think you might need to rewrite the netcode, since simply disabling the upload from the clients just wont cut it. Whats the max number of clients a normal server can hold, 16 on a good day, maybe 32 without upload (and we still want chat and other options, like choosing arena to watch ect.).

So you would probably need to construct some kind off oneway multicast Q4 protocol, with limited upload posibities. If it's something like that, then it's not something you just do.

only when it has to calculate something. a gtv server just forwards the packets

That is hardly the case. It needs to be able to handle user input as well.

just great!
hopefully this version will convince everyone that q4max is the way to go and thus unite the cummunity.

haha get still stuck in stairs in the edge , lame

very nice!
keep up the good work

MVD+GTV next? =)

Now if i could get same fps online as on lan my problems would be solved.
On lan I get a stable 63 fps ,but online it lacks the final boost.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Q4MAX > XBM ALL THE WAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Updated Multiplayer config to include Q4MAX 'tweaks'
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm#Multiplayer

Please read the note about r_skipBump issues and r_vertexlight, this may be the same issue that has caused problems with X-Battle's r_ambientLightOnly setting.

That was already mentioned in the changelog.

great stuff.

please either fix the zoomsensitivity or allow a wider range for FOV (e.g. 40-120), cause u can't zoom properly at the moment :\

shattering news for all 200 of the x-battle community! : x

cause q4max has now that features xbm already had?


im really wondering why so many people like q4max much more than xbm. well at the moment both mods have some bugs, have lack of some features, but in the end they are very equal atm. personally i like xbm a bit more because of timer/weaponbar/railtrail and the unplayble tdm in q4max

but why q4max>>xbm and such things, why the xbm hate? only cause cpl picks q4max? or because xbm is developed by germans? some people never ever would play xbm, regardless what features it would offer. just on principle, im asking why

really sad that hate between q4max <--> xbm. in the end both try to improve the game, xbm for the community, q4max for cpl, but hey.

agree ! i would rather plax xbattle now because of boxjumps, stairjumps and railtrial now actually .

Its quite sick to think about that the same reason people dont like xbattle is the same reason theres war in the world, dont get much higher stupidity than that .

OMG q4max V xbattle is going to start WW3!!!!!!!!!!!!

the poles are going to be pretty fucking raged if they get invaded again..

we'd never invade again. too much fear of carmac's columns .p

Maybe we play q4max because they force bugfixes, not make them all votable, which imo splits people up big time. :p. I'd like to play the same principal gameplay, server to server.

yeah, that's why i am very eager to play q4max 0.7. i agree with a lot of the decisions made there. (and haven't played any q4max version yet)

lol. ever try playing 1v1 in xbm? bugged as hell.

it is? what bugs? (never had obvious bugs and played only xbm all the time)

items disappearing seems to be the biggest one. :o

I´ve heard that lots of people consider the unecessary whine of xbm fanboys as a pain...Maybe that makes some ppl so biased towards it?

one problem i see is that everytime somebody says ANYTHING bad about XB someone from the xb team or some random fanboy comes here and writes about how this and that isnt fair and how both have the same features etc.
thats just annoying, just fix things and make a better mod than and maybe ppl will recognize the better mod.

on the other hand you have all the well known dev names on the q4max team and for now they are doing a great job while the XB team just isnt as focused on the important stuff as they should be.

still your biggest problem is the CPL supporting Q4max which will lead to players leaving leagues if they cant play with q4max which happend in the 1on1 eurocup already.. i think its only a matter of time when q4max fixes important TDM stuff and clanbase TDM leagues will change too...

they community wants one mod and thats why they support q4max more because the only thing helping xb right now is clanbase tdm, nothing else

Q4Max is now better for tdm/ctf seeing as it has a team overlay with locations. It's time to switch to a single mod for all competition and that mod is Q4Max.

same goes with Q4max and their fanboys.
But Q4max won this round fair and square. Oh and, I consider myself a XBM fanboy.

All this crap about how q4max is better than xbm and vice versas is just pathetic. Ok, Q4max has more experienced team, but I'm rooting for XBM just for the reason that they havent given up, and if they keep topping each other like this the mods will be damn amazing eventually because in a competition like that mistakes arent tolerated in releases.

Yes, it is because xbm is developed by Germans. :/

hehe

XBM was first and it was better a while a go, now its q4max. But at this point its pretty useless to argue which mod is better because now its only fanboys vs fanboys. Dont take it too seriously.

..... q4max came 1st in q4.

sorry, xbattle was the first one with a real release.

and? stfu.

lol? stfu you!

really, i dont care who make the mod. i just want one mod, thats all. since cpl and clanbase chose q4max, it is obvious to prefer q4max over xbm. this whole bullshitting between both teams and their fanboys is all about who has the bigger e-penis. and really i dont care about that.

q4max is better because it hasnt have bugs like the score-board bug. And i can actually see the scores top left of the screen.

Then it has good teamoverlay, better HUD, feels smoother. Well i could go on......

Correct

you wish the q4 community would have so many players :p

Is there a zoom sensitivity setting yet? THat is one of the main bugs in q4 stock. Itd be kind of hard to imagine it is not even addressed yet!

Personally dont think there should be a zoom sensi ratio, would make the rail even more dominant then it already is :-/

? the zoom sens ratio exists in all UT games, not to mention q3.

you can change the zoomed sensivity in UT? didnt know that :(

no, but sensitivity of your mouse when you zoom is lowered for you automatically, like in q3 when you +zoom.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=968461
*cough*

Only thing missing is to do a Timeout in TDM. Lot of times someone times out and then we cant timeout. :|

n1 q4max.. have a nice xmas all ;p

now if u only add cl_mouseaccel... :p

good job q4max crew :)

n1 q4max.. have a nice xmas all ;p

:)

Great stuff!

Nice release. Any chance of getting the grenade/rl smoke options in gui? :-]

my thoughts exactly :)

plus gibs, blood...

yeah ,why not make everything changeable via gui?
Call it "Advanced Options" or smth so people don't get irretated.

Yep sorry, it's on the list, but we didn't have time to get it in this release! :-)

and changing the "weapon default" crosshairs! :D

Nice, thanks.

how to make cg_enemymodel work properly???
trying for 1hr+

cg_forcemodels "1"
cg_forcecolors "1"
cg_enemycolor "255 0 255"
cg_teamcolor "255 255 255"

that should be all you need... 1 hour you say :o

Err...
i mean what value or keyword should i use for
cg_enemymodel

use the same value as model and cg_teammodel - ie, the full model name, not the shortened "display" name.

Unfortunately cg_enemymodel didnt make it into the gui in this release (will be in a future one), but team model did, so set the team model through the gui, and then look at the value in the console - that'll show you what you need for cg_enemymodel.

This is sort of a dumb question. But if you change the enemy color to be bright green and your on the Marine team, it makes it quite confusing. Is there a way to bight green skins for Marines and bright orange for Stroggs?

cg_enemyColor "008800"

what values of pm_* changed? pm_speed pm_walkspeed pm_crouchspeed? only this 3 ones?

Impressive...

I get 0 fps for some reason, anyone know the fix?

just seen this mentioned in esr channel ,use image_usePrecompressedTextures 0

using compressed textures 0 gives u worse fps actually.

so you get negative fps? :)

well with it setting at 1 or 0 i get positive:) but i lose frames with it set to 0. its uncompressing the textures and using more cpu i believe. where with 1 it keeps them compressed and its faster.

My bad I thought you had posted the "I get 0 fps" comment ^^ So you would have said "I get 0 fps" --> "putting it on 0 makes it worse" --> negative fps? :p

but I failed :(

any1 able to change the enemy model color?

Yes.

try to use decimal numbers and not hex numbers as in xbattle.

yeap same with #250, and also try this link

0 255 0 <- is all u need for enemy colors make them bright green.

anyone having demo playback issues? w/demo_enforcefs 1 it won't playback saying file not found tho it's obviously there. im using skq4 btw.

I have the same FPS problem as many other have mentioned. Steady 0 fps in the menues, haven't tried to play tho...

Anyway, have tried the two advices I've seen here on the comments (image_usePrecompressedTextures 0 and cleaning and reinstalling q4max). Plz help!

// Pay

seems to be a movement bug when connecting through external programs (ASE/Kquery)

Works fine with Echelon as well.

works fine with sdk

edit: i mean skq4 for irc

Great mod!

So any q4max CA public servers up?

212.13.197.69:28004 / Mr.Server - http://www.mrq4.com / Map : q4dm9 / Players : 9/16
213.148.132.23:28006 / #a-Losers.Q4 q4MAX - Powered by Speicherland.com / Map : q4dm9 / Players : 0/12
195.242.220.184:28004 / [cc]CurryClan Private Server / Map : q4dm1 / Players : 0/12
213.52.218.78:8769 / [Suicide Squad] / Players : 0/16
217.195.176.231:28005 / #q4pickup.dk 2v2 #1 * gs1: 28005 * www.q4pickup.dk / Map : q4dm7tmp / Players : 0/5
194.177.124.202:22000 / NGI [Q4max] Quake 4 FFA #2 [TMP Maps] / Map : q4dm7tmp / Players : 2/8

SKQ4 gave me those

everyone answers to the enemymodel question with colors or force models, but how is the variable for enemy model i mean what i have to put into the " " example. cg_enemymodel "dynerman" <--that doesnt work. THX

well actually it seems that this command doesnt work for
all models.and ofcourse u cant just type "dynerman"

for example u must type: cg_enemyModel "model_player_marine_tech"

thx dude,at last a nice answer

seta cg_enemyModel "model_player_marine_helmeted"
for dynerman

thx you 2

dont really like the clan arena, just doesnt seem like clan arena :(
the no firing guns during warmup is :(
no points for damage is :(
health/armour isnt 200/200 :(

200/200? Thats crazy. 100/100 is where its at...

No its not oO.

Cos in Q3-CPMA version of CA you can fire during warmup, right? :)

wouldnt know

You can in OSP anyway.

great update. is it compatible to the cpl demos? that'd be terrific with the new blood and gibs "0" option!

nope it isn't afaik.
But maybe that feature was already included in the cpl winter version?

YES, it is!

don't think so ,there was a comment that you would get an error message when trieing ... however i might just try it myself ;)

Edit:Doesn't work

There are about 350 comments regarding this q4max mod and it seems tha you are the only one complaining about that playing demo are not compatible with older version(and it might be a couple of guys too whining about this).Now, read my lips, it does work! playing CPL demos.

tell me and everybody else how it works then instead of beeing cocky.

I'm not cockier than you! Besides which "everybody else" I see only you complaining..and you never asked for help!
Here are my .pk files in q4max :

pak001.pk4 /pak002.pk4 /pak010.pk4 /pak070.pk4 /pak070w.pk4 /q4max071.pk4 / q4max071l.pk4 / q4max071w.pk4

I presume that you dont have one "70" series.. and I keept all of them just in order to be able to login on different servers.

ok thanks i will try.
but i don't see how i was cocky?
look around in the q4 max forums ,you'll see that i'm not the only one having the problem.
Edit: Still doesn't work. Maybe it's a problem with my config.

Is demo_enforceFS set to 1 in your cfg?

dooh ,my bad. Works now ,thanks.

i want to be able to have picmip 0 on blood like i had on quake3 , nothing more satisfying then seeing a clean line of blood when you shaft someone ..

Eeewwww.

Picmip and Nomip, in the GUI even, would be great no doubt.

I almost enjoy forcing myself to play with visible textures. Makes a nice change heh.

Yeah I am playing with a gui only config now also. :D

I still miss the smooth plain textures of picmip 6 though...

a picmip toggle in the GUI that sets it to the best looking level of picmip possible so that everyone uses the same (if they want to use it) would be nice :)

I havent read all the +330 posts but the bots doesnt work. They stand still on every map!

Didn't even know that there were bots.

Well there is. :)
"runaas mp/mapname"
"addBot LakermaN strogg"

according to the guy who's making the bots they don't work and were not even supposed to be included in this q4max version

however, they will come in later versions. Also, knowing the guy who made them(creator of spiterbot for q3) i guarantee you they will be kickass bots.

- Download the SABot mod (only bots available for Q4 at the moment, developers are also working with Q4MAX to inc bots in a later release).
- copy all PK4's from SABOT into q4max folder
- Go for it

Thanks. Havent tried that. Now i have copy the brightskin pk4 from q4max 0.70 och gank.pk4 from gankmod into the sabot folder.

It did NOT work. Bot is loaded but stand still.

It wont work because q4max uses its own gamex.dll instead of sabot's

You dont copy the DLL, only the PK4 and def folder, nothing else.

Mine works perfectly.

Its not working properly because it cannot work (with 0.71). The pk4's contain dlls (pak071w.pk4 for q4max). Q4 extracts the DLL its using into the dir when it runs. You can see which one it uses by checking the console, but it'll be using the one from the last one alphabetically...

Try adding a bot, and enabling vertex lighting, or playing CA. Both wont work at the same time.

Is it possible to lock teamsize server-side? I want to setup a Clan Arena server with 10 slots but only 4vs4 can play?

good work peeps xD
lol

is it just me or is there no guide for installing q4max on servers? couldn't find a documentation ;o

I'm just throwing this in here: http://www.cdon.com/main.phtml?prod=419982&am...ge=product

Quake 4 for 149skr (about 15 euros), for people in Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Finland. Saw some comments from people who did not have Q4 yet, so...

What is the best quake 4 patch to use? 1.04 ?

and is there a way to make a shortcut so you can load q4max in one time?

D:\Spel\Quake4\quake4.exe +set fs_game q4max

you can actually use 1.05. any new updates will basically write over 1.05.[

we cant let the xbm topic beat the q4max topic with the number of comments!

because q4max > xbm, cmon!!!!

:(((((((((((((((

No need to state the obvious.

Q4maxx sux 400 post!

from p54A62F0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de

you really think germans hate us?

who are we?

russians, eliminated the 2nd World War

coldwar?

My menu is all white..

I tried deleting my old q4 max folder already.. and then doing a fresh install(of q4max)..

whats wrong?

try image_usePrecompressedTextures 0

that worked.. too bad im already bored of q4..

btw. the weaponbar(hud) realy sux in Q4max :/
cpmhud5 style is the best atm... but it realy sucks that its allways visible.
the weaponbar should disappear after choose/switch another weapon
like in baseq4 or xbm.

men, make plz coloring cvarz for rail beam :D:D:D
like color1, colo2, color3, colo4 or so :>>>

the rail color is controlled by the cvar ui_hitscanhit. afaik it's not possible to set different colors for the core and the surrounding zone, the rail color is applied both to core and the swirling effect. anyway, the ui_hitscanhit cvar accepts three inputs as in following format,
seta ui_hitscanhit "Hue Saturation Value" as

Hue -> 0~360
Saturation -> 0~1.0
Value -> 0~1.0

Now, the color itself is controlled mainly by the Hue value. You can find color pickers, or selectro small programs or even applets (google it). the 0 for hue corresponds to red, and as you cycle through 0 -> 360 the colors are changed. The saturation and Value values determine how bright (or transparent in a way) the rail color is. for example if you want pure white color with max. possible solidness use ui_hitscanhit "0 0 1" .for white color, the hue value does not really matter since the second value (saturation) is set to zero, meaning that rail color is not saturated with the hue value.

i personally use "288 .9 .8" which gives a mellow magenta (yet dark) color.

hope this helps.

// sca

this is to 99% the OSP for q4, and still all servers run baseq4 or xbattle?
errrr

screenshot-autoaction sux. at first you are encountered with undefined files (.jpeg works), then you have to realize that only the "game summary" is recorded, no scores, no stats !

no, its more like: etschloch sux.