Q4 is undone, there is no doubt about that. However, it is not the reason why it lacks noobs on the servers. The reason is that the maistream pre-built PC's can not run it smoothly yet. During 2006, the hardware evolution will reach the point where multicore processors will be mounted in the average priced systems. By that time Q4 engine WILL be optimised, as the effort Raven puts into r_usesmp shows. It is the duty of the progaming community to develop Q4MAX into something as great as OSP was in the meantime.
-> arQon: Oh and btw, are you completely sure you can not make allowupload a part of Q4MAX? I see no theoretical problem in it, it would probably just require a heroic piece of coding.