thats harsch but true :(

Move along folks, there's nothing to see here! ^^

BRING BACK PK!!!!
petition!

Good times.

Vo0 looks sexy in this jacket. Too bad that he has to put it into a wardrobe and lock it up :(

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o my @ vo0 in leather :D

rofl 'Heaven HAD a hitman'.. lol @ past tense :)

Yes. That was intended :))

:D:D

never ever played pk... enjoyed watching it though.
its wasnt the game we all wanted, but it was stil a great tour. ncie final.
sadly there was no community behind the game, everything would have been better then...
this year, its not the community i worry about, its the game. i like to play q4 but i dont know if it will be as exciting to watch as pk is (or was ;)).

cs is more exciting to watch than q4 at its current state, hopefully itll change! :)

Shattering news...

...for all...

16...5...0 oh nm

hehhee

thats all folks!
gg fat. ur the man when it counts the most. adios PK, i'll never miss you :D

PK wasn't even a bad game... just had stupid developers :P

That's retarded.

Quake 4 is nowhere as PK is now.

most enjoyable finals ever

and yes I'm a Quake player

rolf. no point talking to you, apart from saying ROLF!

Stop repeating my name :(

kanker fat :/

wat heeft dat er nou weer mee te maken
moron

fatty ownz

All luck, no skill!

Yes, he lucked through 4 maps ;) gg .nl

God, if we all praised this final so much - how exciting can the next World Tour with Quake4 be?

GG PK, 2bad your developers weren't smart enough to tune you a little bit. Anyway, wasn't a bad tour - PKTV would've fixed A LOT!

rip pk

Quake 4 can never be as fast as PK, these finals were amazing. Next year will be excellent, no doubt, but PK has introduced a thrill in watching that q4 will never match. I hope some fierce competition will make up for that.

Haha we're gonna have an exciting Fragging Yard/Lost Fleet final next year. Can't wait $;----D

gg

grats to fat and sry for vo0.

cya pk.
we didn't love you and won't miss you (almost (c) fooze movie)

edit: btw, finals were awesome. really enjoyed and imo these were the best games that I saw in painkiller (ztrider's comeback was awesome too, don't remember what stop :P).

so sorry for vo0 he only won 100.000$ SO LAME, he is gonna live in poverty for the rest of his life!!!! damn it must suck so hard to be him.

120k, intel cup for MVP was 20k dollars, I recall.

sweden ;)

I have to admit that I really enjoyed watching the finals even though I don't like the game. Congrats to fat for taking 4 straight maps from voo.

its just a shame vo0 wasnt on his game. he looked uncomfortable the whole way through, missed easy shots etc. the final wasnt really the showdown it was cracked up to be. fatality was on his game vo0 wasnt.
shame

good to watch anyway

Fatal1ty is used to all the cameras, it must have been hard for vo0 to play under these circumstances.
Nerves count for a lot and I think this is why things turned out the way it did.

Anyway, gg's all. Absolutely superb. Now imagine if every stop had that atmosphere.
It was nice to FINALLY get a glimpse into how this will all pro-gaming stuff will turn out. That's the first time I have ever said "YEP, THAT'S IT".
Hope it continues.

Funny how you can't have a final where both players play their A game :))

you can ^ ^

Nah the one who loses will always have "not played their best" "was nervous" etc. :/

czm vs coller?

I don't think you got my point :)

Do you not remeber all the "czm was nervous" etc. posts here on esr?

not really :->

so true

Good point.

but Vo0 did win more matches and was ranked higher etc.

Word.

YES!!

nice finals though

pk > q4

Hahah, I said it too, lot of ppl did for sure :)

3
2
1

*Dong*

*PK is DEAD*

Bye, and welcome Q4 \o/

[+]

=((

bye bye pk! and they could tweak q4 and make maps to make it as fast as pk

I think we could all admit, that watching PK like that isnt all that boring, if we try hard enough ; )

Awesome tournament and coverage. Gabriel was funny too.

Q4 will be alot more boring to *watch*.

Best of Benelux finals for me upcomming saturday :(

me2 init horrible, pk is dead and I have to play my first real opponents in it, but after saturday it's q4 only again (actualy it still is but I'm just taking saturday off for pk :p)...

die

bye

#care

very well done final, gj mtv overdrive/tsn etc..

BYE BYE PK

I have to say perhaps this is a bad thing?

If we look at sports in general they are the same with different rules. Football -> Rugby for example. Take this in the context of eSports and we have just created "painkiller fans", the question is. Is it possible for none gamers to move between games, or will they say "god Q4 looks slow and crap, bring back PK" (Talking about the none-gamer / casual gamer)

Can we as a "eSports" community constantly change games and bring the client base along with us while we do it? Interesting questions imo, only time will tell.

No but this will create more watchers, because it's gonna hit the news just about anywhere. It'll just say: Gaming has gotten big with fatality takeing home 230k in a year and vo0 taking home (dunno about the same :p)
And PK will be well just mentioned but the main thing I think ppl will read is GAMING and not PK.
Therefor all ppl that haven't followed PK will begin watching with q4, and that will ofcuz shock the world and we'll have to stick to q4 forever (which is not a bad thing imo... well at least it beats the shit out of playing PK for the rest of yer life ;))

I was thinking about that. If MTV chooses to broadcast Q4 and the response to that is a lot less posotive in comparison to this pk tourney, then will the CPL be pressured by their sponsors to use a game similar to pk to draw an audience.

cpma

No because that wouldn't force people to buy a new video and sound card. *rolls eyes*

heh. People always say that but tbh I don't think there is such a big influence (They sponsor shit loads of CS1.6 teams and tournaments even though CSS was ignored)

That's because Source sucks ass compared to 1.6 and everyone knows that. They still wouldn't pick CPMA over Quake 4 for something like the WT.

even though quake 4 sucks more ass than cs:s does for cs 1.6. DMers are just pushovers for something new:(

I disagree. Quake 4 has a lot of potential, it just hasn't been put to use.

I always see people saying quake 4 has such great potential to be great. But does it have anymore potential than quake 3 did? Mod Q4 all you want it will barely be on par with Q3. And when it gets there it'll be the same gameplay everyone's been seeing for 5 years.

Without OSP I wonder where q3 would be now.. OSP used a lot of q3's potential. Sure vQ3 is still there, but frankly, it sucks ass, like q4 currently does. OSP-Q3 is still there, and it will stay because the final OSP-release perfected the gameplay for many people's tastes. Q3 will stay there most likely for quite a while, but as an afterthought, and unfortunately it's next to impossible to see Q3 make a comeback as an actual "money-game", it will simply stay because it's got loyal fans and is still relatively free from cheating, and is much fun to spend a random 0.5 - 10 hours with. :)

The way I see it Q4's so far unseen and unproven potential is needed as a.. hmm.. how should I put it.. as a refreshment? If q4 becomes as enjoyable to play and watch as q3 in less than say 2-3 years, it would make me a happy quaker. :)

OSP is the same as VQ3 except with brightskins/hud stuff and the timeouts/ready up etc.

my grandma had a lot of potential too but she died so early... at 80 without actually having the opportunity to show the world the potential she had :)

:(

:))

CSers are just hardnuts for upgrading their PCs :p

q4 cpma *rolls eyes*

True, I wasn't really considering that. When I read CPMA I automatically think Q3. I really hope they make CPMA for Q4. I also hope it's not just Q3 CPMA with different graphics and maps.

wouldn't that be dandy, imagine the best competition ready game ever being played in mass tournaments. But instead a bloated newbie biased game is being used.

welcome to the cpl

Although arqon is on the team of developers making the mod for the world tour... I'm sure he'll be able to pull a few strings :)

its a bad thing in one way when you look at it, will cpl change game against next year to please the sponsors? it feels like its the sponsors/cpl that decides the game, not the gamers like with counterstrike where i dont think they dare to go against the comunity to much.

unfortunately money have a hard word on this situation and you can't change things unless you have MORE money

im gonna buy PK tomorrow and play so i will b #1 !!!!

some of those bots are pretty damn good

ah shit no one told me that :( cant i have them as novice bots?

Those bots have insane stakegun aim T_T IMBA!

1on1? your server or mine ? =)

no u cant play i want to b #1 :P

I'm #1 at 'Wacky Wheels'
Wacky Wheels > PK :D

/me is jealous :(

Im sad :'(
No one likes to play WW shootouts with me anymore :(

hopefully there will be a really good CPMA version for Q4 that can hit the mainstream and become THE competition mod
New maps and weapon tweaks are going to be essential for Q4, so I don't see why the game as a whole can't be speeded up too, esp. with full CPL support behind the Q4max team.

CPMA will never be "mainstream" simply because theres more people disliking it as people liking it, as we saw with Quake 3. I doubt that this will change with Quake 4 CPMA if its ever made.

The funny thing about this ... is you can get it's going to get the most +'s and win the awards for the week/month

:P

haha die bye bye!

I doubt we'll be seeing such great finals with Q4. Too bad PK will be discontinued.

these finals sucked tbh, typical fatat1ty-finals... hide, run, hide runrun

It deserves to be dead with Developers as crap as "People can fly" . So many promises that never got delivered.

developer = blowfish

did he actually get something for his achievements from the cpl or someone else? he'd deserve it...

i doubt it....

honestly i dont think the speed of PK is what made everyone love this tournament so much i think its because we all actually got to see a tournament in general. next winter if q4 played 2x's slower then it did now as long as there is a big payday at the end and someone u want in the finals to be there it will be just as exciting.

That's true, but I do think the speed of the game has something to do with its spectator appeal. It's just more entertaining to watch imo.

only 2x ? You're beeing optimistic mate. =)

greatest news post in esr history

Do you actually think that the speed will make people watch gaming on TV? People, and especially Americans, tends to like sports that stops every 10 seconds and/or where nothing at all happens for very long periods of time. A normal person would watch PK for maybe 30 seconds before saying "what the hell is happening?!" for the tenth time and switching channel.

A start would maybe be that the game freeze up for a short period of time after every frag, say 5-10 seconds, so the players can do some silly celebration or tear his hair while screaming madly. And the commentators can say something RLY interesting about what just happened, what it means and what they think will happen next. This is just for 1on1 games on TV (or stuff like that) of course.

I think my dad would enjoy that. Me too, but you cant admit that on esreality so lets just say I'm so pro I would not need any kind of slow down in pace at strategic moments.

HOONEYMODE!!!!!!!

<3

`YES!!!!

\o/
now play q4 and win some more \o/

We all cried with you voo!!




























NOT :P

Shame u didnt beat redface tho

I cried for Vo0. He was the best...

:((

uninstalled yet? :p

i bet if you could go back to the start of the finals, you would seriously kick ass....

you have gained valuable experience, hope to see you in q4 ownzin it up. wp overall

:E

ahahaa rockt

thats why i think tournaments should allow timeouts to be honest i think a player should get 1-2 timeouts 1v1 or tdm i know some tdm q3 tournys allowed for it but i think it can switch momentum at times

Did pk not just look spectacular, because of the fact that no one else played the game? In Quake 3 for instance thousands played, watch pro demos copy their every move etc. In general we could relate to the playing style to other players.
In pk no one new what he was capable of because they did not play the game, so you cant compare yourself to the pro pk players. Therefore everything looks amazingly spectacular, but to quote LeXer "It’s really a bullshit game"

[+] for LeXeR quote. GO LeXeR!

I really liked when they showed a close up of lexer playing and going "tbbphptththh" at the game in the MTV show :p

Bye PK, you had a good run. :)

CPLAINS FTW Q4 WOOT RARGH!!G!H"G

NO CLAINS FOR #2! :DDDDDD

did any1 hear when the shoutcaster said : "hes beating him round like a red-headed step kid"

pissed myself at that one

and after one of the matches there was a break between games where the studio banter broke down the dialogue was something like this

presenter dude: so guys who do YOU thinks gonna win this 1?!?!

shoutcaster: your mom dude, your mum.....

another corker

tgg

i thought it was more like, "who's gonna take it?" - .....ur mom.

haha, thats hillarious

why was it removed as major news?
everyone reading es must have gotten the humor after all the pk bashing =P

BLUEman is obviously attempting to keep some standards for the front page :)

LONG LIVE PK

disco disco

Doesn't it make you feel better?

Nice spectatorgame
Long live PK, PK is dead :>

PK is dead, long live... ?

that´s more like it

I cant believe you got +76% for saying that.

C'mon, you're not new here :p

Funny how its the best game ever now its dead.

Now would be a good time to release PK2 mp test which would be shattering news to all the quake 4 community.

All 300?

+ to that xD

pk2 mp test will rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!one111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!

let's not forget that PK Battle Out Of Hell had PS 3 support so it look better than q4

ur a boring git ! WOOT!! lol omg i sed WOOT im IN now ppl will liek me

PK stakegun > Q4 railgun
speaking about innovations....