u need to bulk up, look kinda skinny :O

i'm 20, body not finished + training, training, training -> 0 fat all muscles but looking skinny, i'm lucky though, proportions are fine :)

training in what?

karate (since i'm 9 years old) and push-ups every evening, workouts etc..

showoff :p

cool. I quit martial arts when I was about six. they're interesting nonetheless, I suppose.

AHAHAH 0 fat is impossible u fkn noob.... :)

i know plenty of people with 0 fat, shame theyr all 6ft under tho...

fat is essential to the human anatomy. that's why you naturally produce it, and idiots attempt to reduce it.

and fat people pretend they dont care.

I care.

Fatist!

Not for long hopefully ;)

GL HF! :D

Thx ;)

Depends on what you are trying to achieve. Bruce Lee is famous for reducing his body fat levels to ridiculously low levels to help make him faster, ironically this killed him, since his body fat was so low that haschish (spelling?) made his brain swell.

that's not ironic.

stfu, he was killed because he was the only one who kicked chuck norris' ass.

lol :D

with below 2% body fat you might just drop dead. that is the absolute minimum afaik.

looks fine. rather add lean muscle than bulk up with gainer etc. plus your young - dont worry about it. hardly anyone looks like that here. (except me of course)

lol you think that's bad you should see me o_O

wtf necroposter :X

think i accidentally bumped this because anonymous is on my buddy list and for some reason 'he' was here. thought this journal was recent until you pointed it out lol soz

Omg you are so hot!!

OK, who's gonna start "Penis, balls and pubic hairs 1"?

You are so unimaginative.

I'm afraid SiT's already jumped on the pubic hair (or lack thereof - due to shaving) a while ago :D

art hehee

Eish, that's the type of build I would like and would probably be the easiest for me to achieve.

I doubt you will hear any more trolling from me for a few months, until I get pissed off about something. Now I'm going to concertrate on the things that matter most in life, work, family, love, quake...

defeating anarki i can win on pro-t4...

Especially!

haha Cel YOU ARE RIGHT FFS :>

btw i'm eating whatever comes in reach but i only drink (lots of) water and sometimes orange juice, no tea, no coffee etc..

www.sinfest.net rules indeed :)

hf tB0nE (pushups = teh win :D)

i did a push up once, but it was hard work so i decided to never do one again.

agreed.

You are now free to remove the 'pseudo' prefix in your name.

haha

I too affiliate myself with your logic, "well played" indeed! :)

That is all.

Spekter

my boobs look just fine even whitout push up (bra) o_O

sif

you would make a very nice target to shank.

everyone does - if you know where to strike that is.. but go ahead, try me :>

You are weak old man, you should not have come. =)

*points gloved finger* You are part of the Promode Alliance and a traitor!

stile sux

Hey from your post it seems u only do exercises with bodyweight? Like pushups etc? If thats teh case u should definitly start using weights man. Itll help you alot!

i dont need help but thx :>

yeh i only use bodyweight right now, i've never been a fan of weights. i'm adapting to my natural physique and atm it's not the "heavy + big muscles" kind of. The day i get a little more bodyweight, i'm gonna start with it :)

Alright man, atleast u know what u want and your working to suit. Oh yeah, i know a few guys like you who prefer to work with bodyweight. One of them is a gymnast and says he doesnt need weights but i htink he started using them lately.
Anyway, good luck on your quest for the perfect physique :) . Peace.

http://www.mattfurey.com/conditioning_book2.html

just found that, very nice argumentation for bodyweight exercises :)

but tbh i have found very different articles about that issue, so basically both are fine.

there are some really nice articles there. I'll read them more indepth tomorrow. thx.

lean, fast and mean > bulky, slow and fatass

this coming from someone who has done a bit of resistance training over the past few years... I just think lean is better and would have preferred to do endurance bodyweight exerciese now. I have wobbly tits now I've stopped curling, benching and pushups. Should start only push-ups again... :/

Yeh, it's not as if people who run the 100m in under 10 seconds ever do any weights...

ok bulky can be fast in certain sports, but running is just channeled one way: forward. I dont think it would work for a footballer, or a swimmer and a bulky upperbody certainly wouldn't help a cyclist. Poub says he does karate, I could never really see a bulky figure being the optimum for karate which requires a lot of movemnt and dexterity.

The notion that weight training slows you down and decreases flexibility, dexterity and agility is massively outdated. Lifting can benefit competitors in any sport, although the particular exercises and volume of training will obviously vary. Participants at the top level of all sports you mentioned would do some form of weight training, although this approach has only been introduced in recent years as players have been informed of the benefits. Taking football as an example, Ronaldo, Zinedine Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Christian Vieri, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Patrick Vieira and Clarence Seedorf are all examples of players that possess a tremendously powerful upper body yet still display considerable speed, poise and skill. In karate, weight training would be of particular use as despite the wider public's perception of martial artists all being little weedy blokes that can own people twice their size purely by good technique, having considerable muscular strength is also hugely advantageous. Martial arts competitions usually have many weight divisions and those at the heavier end of the scale tend to be built like brick shithouses, while still retaining much of the flexibility, speed and technique of those in the lower weight categories.

Most of us don't have access to those kind of drugs though.

Jason Robinson, Joe Rococoko, Stirling Mortlock, Aurelien Rougerie, Brian O'Driscoll - all very muscular, all very fast...all on steroids? I think it's unlikely.

Dunno, Wendel Sailor has to be on something but I wasn't being all that serious. From a martial arts and day to day point of view I think it's nicer not to have the bulk.

bulked doesnt mean slow and fatass. defintly not. You can clean bulk gaining minimum fat and then again u can cut anytime to loose any excess fat.

infact, heres a race between Kevin Levrone and Dwaine chambers. I think ull be suprised.

The more muscle MASS you have, the slower you get. Muscles are heavy. In order to get BULKY you need muscle mass. And it WILL make you slower compared if you build muscles for speed.

this whole thread made me realize how stupid humanity is, but so does everything else.

YES, because speed has NOTHING at all to do with your strength to weight ratio. So the fact that strength correlates with somewhat size is meaningless. Oh also it's impossible to train with weights for power and speed, which is why no elite athletes at all would do olympic style weightlifting.

I'm looking to start some martial arts soon, though i'm probably considered an old age pensioner starting at 20. Though i did some kickboxing when i was younger :\

I found after 2 months hardcore training it was easy to obtain a muscular looking chest due to all the fat loss + situps for 10 minutes in the evenings.

atm i've got a program which i do mon-fri which consists of alot of cardo like running, bike, swimming and some weights. Only to strenghten what i have atm, don't intend building up body mass.

how many push-ups do you aim to do per night ?

dunno if that was targeted at me, anyway..

my routine if there is no regular training or a party or if i'm ill that night is sets of 30 fast push-ups with 3 min rest in between, repeat at least 5 times, max 7, in between doing some leg exercises.. at the weekend or whenever weather/time allows it workout in the forest, sprint, jogging and some random stuff.. thats all the body exercise i do. besides that i'm doing different coordination exercises.

if you want to add some spice, read a long article eg in national geographic and do those 30 push-ups after each paragraph, the trick is, reading the article trains your perception of details and gets you used to using your brain even when under heavy stress :)

btw you try doing pushups with just your knuckles? this gym i go to, one of the regulars tells me pushups with your knuckles are good for strengthening the wrists. i don't do pushups, thinking i should start. i lift, but bleh pushups piss me off.

I'm going to start doing light workouts in addition to my heavy ones. pushups, crunches, stretches and jogging. will attempt to turn it into a morning routine.

PS

eat a little more, jesus you could stab someone with that hip.

eat something man.
you dont have any muscle.

rofl you must be blind. I bet this guy is waaaay stronger and waaaaaay faster than you even with less muscle mass. I love these dorks who think muscle automatically = hardness. ROFL ROFL R O F L I love geeks. They are so dumb althoug most people think quite the contrary. gagagahahahhaah fuck man.

immortal does have a point though, he needs to eat way more...goddamn...

i mean muscular looking physique looks great, but it can be enhanced by a bit more bulkiness. impress the chicks at the beach. they don't want to see skeletor.

uhh, well you bet wrong. i know for a fact this guy is way weaker than me just by looking at him.

dorks? geeks? sorry you're a bit ignorant cause you don't have a clue.

here's a picture i took today of myself. i know how to eat. i was 6'0 126 lbs 2 years ago and as of yesterday i'm 6'0 and 169 lbs. i can guarantee you i'm stronger than this stick of bones who does pushups and sits on his computer. since all he does is pushups, he must have a strong bench. on thursday i repped 135lbs x10, 185lbs x10, 205lbs x8, 225lbs x6 for flat barbell bench. the thursday before that i did 75lbs x10, 85lbs x8, 100lbs x5 for flat bench dumb-bells. doing pushups and eating 1000 calories a day wont get you that strength, or lean muscle mass i have. also, i workout every muscle of my body, not just my chest. this guy just has low body fat, he's definately skinny and has definition, but he's not muscular by any means.

my picture here

holy shit, that is going to be me come summertime.

my body shape is generally like yours except flabbier. not toned and muscular yet except top stomache and bicep.

hey what do you do to get results on your shoulders? I heard shoulders is the hardest thing to grow... i tried lifting weights up over my head and back to my shoulders etc. still have weak shoulders and arm strength. can't lift a barbell and keep my arm straight.

dumb bell press
arnolds
front lateral db raises
peck deck rear delts
cable lateral raises
dumb bell shrugs

this site is resourceful

your diet is the most important thing that can change your body.

baked chicken and potatos and rice? steak usually as well. bookmarked site, sleeping. reading it when i wake up for a bit before i leave for karate.

thanks.

yes, i would add eggs in there. egg is the best source of protein.

"i was 6'0 126 lbs 2 years ago and as of yesterday i'm 6'0 and 169 lbs"...

i lol'ed at the repeated mention of height.

5 years later and still laughing?

without the "still"

lol immortal does pyramid sets like a noob

nice definition man, im going for a "similar" look. i used to be quite bulky and a found it hard to lose the fat around my belly, but didnt care cos i had pretty big arms and pecs. nowadays i would rather have the cut definition. im not quite as defined as u, but i have a bit more muscle, im just trying to lose the fat whilst maintaining lean body mass, which is proving hard :) i stick mainly to bench presses, curls, press-ups, shoulder presses and a few variations on sit-ups.

ppl always need different things from their bodies - of course an athlete like yourself isnt going to be interested in getting huge biceps etc, im going for the cosmetics, which requires a bit of high-load free weights and a bit of body-weight exercise intermixed.

anyway keep up the good work :)

hehe nice feedback.

well a lot of you are missing the point, i'm not training for a good looking body, it's a nice side-effect, thats all. i'm doing this conditioning to be fit for fullcontact sparring, SD training, ground work etc. The people I train with are usually older and about 10 kg heavier than me and they work as hard as i do concerning martial arts, i can still keep up due to my bodyweight focused workouts which give me that extra flexibility and body-control i need to compete against people heavier+stronger than me.

maz1nger i strongly recommend you do NOT do push-ups with only knuckles, all you're gonna get is arthritic hands and wear the tissues in your hand down. there's reasons why boxers wear gloves, read some stuff from bas rutten, he also says that in mma and free fights hitting someones head with a fist/knuckles will most likely break your hand, hands are just too fragile. if you insist, do it on a soft ground like a carpet etc, that will strengthen your wrist without too much damage to your knuckles..

hi immortal :) you shouldnt judge my power just from the look of my body, i never did any weight training so i probably wont stand a chance against you in that, the question is can you follow me through my pure bodyweight workout? Your training is for strength and muscles, when i'm training i'm totally focused on what's it going to be good for in my martial arts. We have different goals i think, thats the misunderstanding.

thanks for 411, and i do have carpeted floors.

Your body is ok if you ask me, now it is just conditioning and lots of cardio, though as you are learning I suggest do some weights and bulk up just a little. As your MA skills develop the strength will be coming along as well. Though (you should know this) if you want to build up strength in kicking for example, then don’t just assume that it's all leg extensions and leg curls etc. Since the hips/waist and lower back (if I remember correctly) play a very high role and whatnot. But I assume you know the score. You are better off asking someone in person, Unless your instructor(s) are into weights then I wouldn’t ask them, online is ok you just get lots of different opinions. I personally would ask a gym instructor or someone you know who is experienced in the field you are looking for; someone that has been there and done it.

i will MAYBE start using weights after i can perform all the bodyweight exercises there are with reasonable reps, one armed pushups, one legged squats, rafter pullups, spidermans, hindu pushups, dips, one armed handstand pushups etc etc the list goes on. if i have control of my body i will start building up from there, before that it's pointless, that's my philosophy. either that or the bodyweight workouts stop making me tired and i mysteriously stop growing muscles from doing them, THEN i will do weights for sure :)

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A lot of karate guys do press-ups on their knuckles to show, first, that they are hard and laugh at pain, and secondly, to move nerves over from the top of the knuckle. This is to allow stikes against concrete blocks (presumably blocks with really bad haircuts or who are staring at your girlfriend) and hasten calcification on the bone. By the way, I found an excellent way of building bulk around the shoulders and such was to spend the best part of 15 years as an unskilled casual labourer on building sites. Less than scientifically planned diet, though, but constant roll-ups keep the weight down.

Absolute gobledegook. Doing manual labour doesn't build muscles. I would class it as an aerobic endeavour since you're moving around a lot. You will burn calories ie. probably fat or the chip shop meal you ate for lunch. You will lose weight (probably), doh.

heh, the truth is that you can't get 'a six pack' unless you have really lucky genetics or starve yourself like the parent poster. I was 6'0" 175lb til I lost alot of weight (not really intentionally) and got down to like 148lb for a while, and I did cardio every day, and my abs every other day for a few months. if you have to rely on cardio, it's not gonna even work. I know I have nice abs as I can do anything with my damn torso, but since I don't have my own kitchen/house I can't eat all that great. it's hard to find frozen foods and shit that's actually healthy, but I manage with the knowledge I have. it's still quite hard to get any significant amount of definition, which I have yet to attain. however, I do have 16 inch biceps, a 15 inch neck, and 14 inch calves. it kindof sucks in my fucking house though, I need my own place so I can workout regularly, I don't even have room for my equipment here.

i'm not starving myself at all, i'm healthy but underweight, talked to people (doctors too) about it and they all say my body isnt finished with 20 years, at least in my case.

It's a huge difference if you do exercises for the sake of doing exercises or if you actually do them out of real motivation or with another goal than "getting muscle mass" and looking muscular etc. i have 0 experience with doing exercises for the sake of themselves, when i'm training with my mates we dont go "hey man i do 150 push-ups every evening and look how my biceps is flexing *flex biceps*" if you do that as an outsider, you get invited for sparring to see what you can do with what you have and thats a WHOLE different story.

btw, everyone can cook some noodles or rice with some stuff in it thats not from the fridge, thats no excuse :)
room is no excuse either, and the idea of needing a separate room for the "equipment" sounds very strange to me.. bodyweight will bring you to what your body naturally looks like with less fat/more muscles and not bulk you up like weight training does, which often looks artificial. look at some russian judo/wrestling elite fighters and then compare them to american judo/wrestling elite fighters, you'll see what i mean :)

"i'm not starving myself at all, i'm healthy but underweight, talked to people (doctors too) about it and they all say my body isnt finished with 20 years, at least in my case.

"

that's right.

I'm not going to read the rest of your post, and you certainly can't tell me anything I don't already know. I can gain/lose 5lb in less than a week anytime I want, I've done it a million times. it's not really cuz I'm an easy gainer although I do have good genetics, I'm not your typical person. I don't give a shit about anything but myself and I have the will and confidence to do anything if I care. personally I somewhat feel inspired to have abs now. so you can bet that I will.

k :)

Easy if you eat 5 lbs of food at a time, yes.

Someone call the care police.

hmm strange.. anyway i've read that the average human male body stops growing at 21 of age so i got some time left (it's about 18/19 with females iirc). just for those who re-read the thread and wondered.

I find that kind of training best for what I'm doing too. I was into muy thai boxing for about 2 years, bujinkan budo taijutsu for 5 years and now I'm just training wing tsun since 2 years back. I just can't have big biceps for my wing tsun due to the reason that I would become way to slow if I were any bulkier. I'm 20 too, body is still growing and will never do any heavy weight lifting ever :P

Anyway, keep it up man.

nice MA background, i basically wasted my time in karate, i'm discovering the wonders of muay thai, wing tsun, jkd etc etc for slightly more than a year now. i learn/absorb stuff really fast due to the karate training but thats really the only thing..

I felt almost the same with bujikan budo taijutsu (ninjutsu), but hey it's kinda cool and fun when we got to learn how to handle weapons. I'd say my favourites is the bo, the nunchakus and the manriki gusari (almost as a nunchaku though the chain is about 3 ft with shorter handles) due to the "flashy" effect it has when you swing'em around you ;) ppl's is like: "woha wtf?" when I show them what it's all about.

Martial arts is a way of life and I plan to do all my life, keeps you fit and it's alot more fun than any other sport I've been into. Am I right or am I right? ;)

hehe it surely is one of the most fun ways to use your body ;)

as long as there is variety in training it's all good, god bless p2p for instructional vids though, heh

useless shit

all u need is big cock!

your wearing boxers with hearts on. hoho.

actually.. those are original billy boy boxers... yes, the condom brand.. :> if you look closely..

rather not.

i understand.

The weight + slow thing is greatly dependent on how far you talk your bulk. If you look at Olympic runners if i am correct (state me so otherwise) their legs are a lot bigger than what they look (talking about sprinters)

Strength through martial arts is a whole different thing even in boxing. I know a bloke who was 1st in Europe left and right arm wrestling champ (100k) for 6 years on the trot and got 6th at some global champs in the states. He has been training kickboxing/muay thai where I have, and his power is nothing whatsoever compared to others that are not even half his size. It’s all technique, the weight is nothing until the technique is there. I am more or less over 3 stone heavier than my instructor yet his power and speed insanely exceeds mine.

And by the way: if you like body conditioning: muay thai man!
Though from the pictures it seems your more like a fitness freak than anything else. A bit of weight does help in any martial art.

"fitness freak" hehe i like that, i intentionally dont post my daily routine.. however i have alot of that "anything else" as well :P

I wish I could start with muay thai or western boxing right away but there's the lack of time and mostly geographical restrictions.. if you know what I mean :(

"the weight is nothing until the technique is there"

yup. that's why (in training) i can kick and punch the shit out of ppl who are way heavier than me (at least 10kg more), 50% mindset, rest split up on experience, technique, fitness.

you never cease to learn, you never stop failing. there's an awful lot of stuff where we still have to get to a basic level, god bless we're still young..

yeah i'm looking to gain weight but I'm feeling just fine right now. there's no way i will "catch up" with people who weigh 10kg more than me in reasonable time anyway, and even if there is a way through protein shakes and supplements and whatnot, no thx.

Are you still like that?

hm i bulked up a bit lately but yeah i'm still very lean :)

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I'll read all of this someday?!?!? hah, you guys are pretty amusing though.
none of you really know the first thing about fitness in any respect. ahh, the benefits of youth I guess?
immortal is the cutest of all - but he does have a point; it's very easy to just drop body fat
and get a 'six pack' without any serious muscles mass. the problem is, though, that muscle mass isn't nearly
as easy to obtain as some people might think. immortal, you also cannot correlate strength with mass directly, but proportionately.
it is my theory that the human muscle has a 200% efficieny - so if you're able to bench press 250 pounds, then that doesn't necessarily mean that have you more muscle mass than poub or whomever.
since the average american male has around 120 to 130 pounds of mass, then he should be able to bench press around 250 pounds (200% efficiency). this is just mental and emotional training - adrenaline, intensity, focus, and repitition (the most important).
while brute strength and mass does help to throw around weight, it's certainly not the most significant factor, because your muscles probably aren't being utilized to their maximum efficiency at any given time.
I think, on a general scale, the average male has within 5 pounds of muscle mass per inch of height (obviously depending on genetics and ceilings high or low), with the mean being 5'9" and ~130lb.
so, then, the average 5'6" male should be able to maximize his flat barbell press with 230 pounds, while the 'mean' 5'9" male should be able to max his at 260 pounds, and the 6' male should be able to max his at 290 pounds without any added muscle mass.
this is conditioning or 'training' as you may like to call it. so, here, I am trying to demonstrate that mass does not necessarily equate strength - a smaller person with superior condition can clearly be stronger, immortal.
however, presuming you have about 10% body fat, this would put your muscle mass at around 150 pounds, with a theoretical maximum then of 300 pounds, while I'm estimating your current maximum (180 / .75) to be around 250 pounds. (all rounded up or down accordingly)
so it could be that you are stronger than poub, but if he were 140 pounds at 7%, then he should be able to rep 260 pound once. now I'm not sure what your exact max is, but it seems that in that instance poub would be more efficient.
however, the key element in my mind to conditioning the three, main 'heavy weight' excercises is repitition - so barring that poub is lying about his body-weight only regimen, then it is likely that you are in the right to say you are stronger than poub.
however, again, I am not sure what you suspect to accomplish by this. is the fit more fit if he is larger? would you say that Lance Armstrong is less fit than Arnold Schwarzenegger? Apples to oranges, dear.
so, in the end, you are right - it's very easy to get a low body fat percentage, and a lot harder to put on mass and maintain definition with that mass, but whatever your particular reason for that is should be paramount to the kind of particular excercise in which you partake. (three P-words in a row, thank you, thank you)

yes im going to read that

bah, il have a stomach like that one day i promise! not this beer belly i got now :<

i wish i had something constructive to say, and i actually put a minute of my time to think something, but was able to come up with nothing :D

how about letting the thread die peacefully... INSTEAD OF BUMPING IT UP... could've told me on irc :/

I'll post one of these when if I get my popularity up to 50% again :P

[-]

Not too far now!

51%, lets go

Is this your way of coming out?

return of the bump

popularity:51%

may god have mercy on us all.

wot do you weigh m8

This thread floats up all the time and you can flush and flush and it still finds its way up... brilliant

I weigh 74kg now and I am 182cm tall, I'm following Crossfit for working out (www.crossfit.com) and use a modified/simplified Zone diet for nutrition. I'm feeling great, looking great, my strength and cardio is greater than ever and I'm putting on muscle.

I planned to update my journal when i finished a little (relevant to this topic) video project of mine and post it along with the update - and still do, so just wait :)

what did you weigh in the pic?

just above 70

Way to pick a good workout regimen, I'm a weightlifter (oly-lifting), bodybuilder and wannabe gymnast and I am about to start CrossFit myself...

170cm - 79kg - 7-10% Bodyfat - 19 years

I wouldn't consider myself that muscular, although my BMI is over 27 now and those pictures were taken today give you an idea how useless that formula is... A few years ago I was lazy and trained doing only push-ups and eventually accomplished 100 of them full rom in 4 minutes. It gave me a really shitty physique after a while and resulted in a push/pulling strength imbalance.

I've been lifting weights for 9 months I was 71kg last fall at a much higher bodyfat (my abs hardly showed). I wasn't a noobie when I started though because I had strength trained and had results in the past as a track athlete.

These pics are disturbingly homo.

Anyway to the point, for those figures (170cm, 79kg) I would've thought you'd have more mass than what i can see.

Alot of the mass is in my legs and glutes but if I photographed them and put it here that would obviously push the homo way too far.

edit: the planche picture doesn't show it well but my calves are 41 & 42 cm (left and right) my quads are 57 & 59 cm measured at half-way between knee and hip joints.

thank god ur working out ur legs as well :D when i go to the gym nobody ever uses the leg machines *<

Hmmmm... I think it's time for me to return.... although I'm less than healthy at the moment... in a month! We shall see....

Fuck this gay shit. I thought THERAILMCCOY and daryl where back.

daryl is still around although anonymous

hehe..THERAIL's nick actually made me look at the date ;p

lol, me too

*Cringe*

People posting "you should eat more" should be careful what they say! I'm sure you people have heard the saying "you are what you eat" right? Well that's pretty accurate. The more junk you eat the more stress you put you body under (mainly your organs and the body's own regenerative capabilities). There really is a lot behind how food affects you in the short and long term.

p.s. I don't know how this guy eats, so I'm not really targeting anyone in specific.

"and the body's own regenerative capabilities"

I knew you were a troll.

whats with the pubic hair in the first pic. Thats the gayest shit i've ever witnessed on this website.

confidence>penis size>good looks

or

big penis size gives you confidence so you don't need good looks.

good lookings be grow pencil all confidential

omg u used the word "fist"!! u cant do that, what would ur boyfriend think about when he searching the internet?...hope u got it - reffering to http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2212647 :)

60 kg? maybe eat?
lightweight material.. fast.. but not capable of knockouts;))))

Jesus ! you need food.

Anorexia can be cured, seek help!

who the fuck bumped this shit

r1ddler didn't have anything better to do, so he thought he would help that young man find answers. :|

this thread may be a bit gay :D

I got old and gained weight. The end.

total ottermode