Heartless uses abyssus, thats all you need to know.

i'm currently using a zowie AM

now i need like 3-5 months to get used to it at 100% :p, cause it's quite a different mouse than abyssus, but still at least as much as good as the abyssus

zowie <3

3-5month to get used to 100%, sure..

yeah, when i switched from kinzu to abyssus i needed not less than 4 months or even more to get used to the new and different sensor

when i started using the abyssus i got beat by people that i usually beat, but when i replayed these people 8 months later, it was a different story, they didn't seem really hard at all

it shouldn't be like that after switching to another mouse, which is meant to be an improvement over the old one.

actually it is, but it just needs time to apply

wmo

you get used to every mouse if you play for hours everyday. it doesn't really matter. abysuss and WMO are the most common mice AFAIK

Something like this.

UPDATED list:
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108 - MS WMO 1.1a -> ZOWIE EC2 -> ZOWIE FK1 (+Corepad Deskpad XL + QPad MK50)
421 - Razer Abyssus (+Razer Goliathus) -> MS WMO 1.1a -> Logitech G100s
abso - MS WMO 1.1a (+Razer Goliathus Alpha + SS 6Gv2)
AGENT - Razer DA 2013 (+Razer Goliathus Control Alpha + Razer Tarantula)
alfaomega - Razer DA (+Razer Goliathus)
alteza - ZOWIE AM (+Artisan Hien Mid + SS 6Gv2)
ash - Logitech G400 (+Razer Goliathus Control Extended + Razer Black Widow 2012)
axion - Razer DA 3G
Av3k - Logitech MX 310 -> Razer Salmosa -> SS Kana
baksteen - MS IME 3.0 -> SS Kana
bodzo - SS Ikari Laser -> MS WMO 1.1a
bombthreat - MS WMO 1.1a (+PureTrak Talent)
calipt - Razer DA -> ROCCAT Kova -> SS Kinzu v1 -> Razer Abyssus -> Lollysus optical (WMO innards)
cAs - Logitech G100s
cerboz - ZOWIE AM (+Corepad C1 L)
chance - Razer Salmosa -> MS WMO 1.1a -> SS Kinzu v1
clawz - MS IME 3.0 -> SS Kana v1 -> ZOWIE FK (+Razer Goliathus) -> ZOWIE ZA12 (+SS QcK Heavy) -> ZOWIE FK2 (+ZOWIE G-SR + SS 6Gv2)
coolleR - MS WMO 1.1a -> Razer Abyssus -> ZOWIE EC2 eVo -> ZOWIE EC2 eVo CL -> ZOWIE EC2-A (+Corepad Cerro XXX-Large -> ZOWIE SR + Razer BlackWidow Stealth Quick Tournament)
cYpheR - MS WMO 1.1a -> Razer DA -> Razer Abyssus -> SS Kana -> MS WMO 1.1a -> Razer Taipan (-> MS WMO 1.1a?) -> ZOWIE FK1 (+Razer Goliathus + Razer Deathstalker)
czm - Logitech MX 300 -> Razer Salmosa -> SS Kinzu v1
DaHanG - SS Ikari Optical -> Razer DA -> SS Xai -> SS Kinzu v1 -> SS Kana (+Razer Goliathus + SS 7G) -> ZOWIE FK -> Razer DeathAdder Elite (+Razer Goliathus Speed + Razer BlackWidow Chroma)
dash - Razer DA 3G -> ZOWIE EC2-A (+SS QcK XXL)
ddk - Razer Diamondback -> Razer Abyssus -> ZOWIE FK2 (+ZOWIE GTF-X + CM QuickFire Brown
debtorr - ZOWIE EC1
DEISMA - MS WMO 1.1a (+Razer Goliathus Control)
dem0n - MS WMO 1.1a (+PureTrak Talent + Cooler Master Storm QuickFire TK Red)
dimitri - Logitech G400 (+Razer Goliathus Speed)
dkt - Logitech G9 -> MS IME 3.0 -> ZOWIE EC1 -> Raptor M3 DKT -> ZOWIE FK
draven - MS IMO 1.1a
effortless - Razer DeathAdder 2013 (+Razer Goliathus Speed Alpha + Razer BlackWidow 2013)
empish - SS Kana v2 (+Razer BlackWidow Tournament 2014)
evil - SS Kinzu v1 (+SS QcK Heavy + SS 6Gv2)
fazz - MS WMO 1.1a -> MS IME 3.0 -> Razer Abyssus (+Razer Goliathus Speed 2014 + SS 6Gv2) - > Finalmouse 2015 (+ADX lava ULTIMATE GAMER) -> Logitech G Pro (+SS QcK+ + CM Storm TKL Blue)
fear - ZOWIE ZA11 (+XTrac Ripper XXL + CM Storm Quickfire Stealth)
fearZZz - Logitech MX 518
feeder - Logitech G400 (+SS QcK + GIGABYTE Aivia Osmium (red))
FISHs - Razer DeatAdder 3.5 G -> Razer DeathAdder 2013 (+Razer Megasoma)
fox - MS WMO 1.1a
FraZe - SS Kana (+SS QcK+)
frs - Razer Abyssus (+PureTrak Talent) -> Ninox Aurora beta
funnyb - MS WMO 1.1a (+Razer BlackWidow 2014 Ultimate)
gaiia - Logitech MX 300 (+Corepad Deskpad XXXXL)
gienon - MS WMO 1.1a
gandhi - Logitech MX 300
GaRpY - Razer DA -> SS Kana v2 (+Overclockers Giant Mouse Mat + QPad MK-50)
griffin - MS IME 3.0
Guard - MS IME 3.0 -> ZOWIE EC1 eVo
H41_: Asus ROG Gladius
h8m3 - Ninox Aurora beta (+Artisan Hien Hard + SS 7G) -> Logitech G100s -> Logitech G100s w/ G303 innards -> Logitech G Pro (+SS QcK Heavy) -> ROCCAT Kone Pure Owl-eye (+ZOWIE G-SR + Ducky Shine 3 Yellow)
hypnoi - Razer Abyssus (+Razer Goliathus Speed + Logitech G11)
ikkeds - Razer Abyssus (+SS QcK+)
ins - MS IME 3.0 -> some black ball mouse & ZOWIE EC2 eVo
ischju - MS IMO 1.1a -> MS WMO 1.1a
jetro - Razer Abyssus 2014 (+Artisan Shidenkai Mid / Artisan Hien Soft)
jibo - MS WMO 1.1a
ka5ta - MS WMO 1.1a -> Logitech G9x
k1llsen - Logitech MX 518 -> Logitech G9 -> Logitech G9x -> Logitech G303 -> Logitech G9x (+ MS Digital Media Pro) -> Logitech G303 (+Razer Goliathus Speed Alpha + Logitech G910) -> Logitech G Pro (+Lioncast LK30 + Razer Goliathus Speed Alpha)
krysa - MS WMO 1.1a
l1nkin - MS WMO 1.1a -> SS Kinzu v1 -> KinzuAdder -> Ninox Aurora -> Logitech G100s (+Artisan Hien Soft L)
Lam - Razer Diamondback 3G -> ROCCAT Kone Pure Military
Latrommi - Logitech G400 -> ROCCAT Kone Pure Military (+Razer Goliathus Control)
Latvietis - MS WMO 1.1a (+Razer Goliathus Speed Omega)
madix - ZOWIE IMO 1.1a
MAKIE - Razer Abyssus
med1xza - Logitech MX 510 -> Logitech MX 518 -> Logitech G400 -> Logitech G402 (+Artisan Shiden Mid L)
mew - Logitech MX 300 -> Logitech G100
mj_ - Razer Abyssus (+SS QcK Mass)
NiGHTOPS - Razer DA 3G
Nitrino - ZOWIE EC2 eVo (+Zowie CL + CM Storm Quick Fire white)
noctis - Logitech G1 inside MS "Trekker" ball mouse -> Razer Abyssus w. Salmosa internals --> Logitech G100s
NooD - ZOWIE AM (+ZOWIE G-TF Speed)
pavel - SS Xai -> SS Kana -> ZOWIE EC2 eVo (+SS QcK Heavy + SS 6Gv2)
ph0enX - Logitech G402 (+Corsair K70 RGB Red, no mousepad)
plazma - Logitech G400 (+SS QcK+)
proZaC - ZOWIE EC2-A (+Tesoro Durandal G1N Brown)
psygib - Logitech G100s (+Razer Goliathus Control + Microsoft SideWinder x4)
PURRI - MS IME 3.0 -> ZOWIE (EC1 eVo?)
rapha - Logitech MX 518 -> MS WMO 1.1a w. SS-sticker -> SS Xai -> MS WMO 1.1a (+SS QcK+ SK) -> Logitech G900 (+Artisan xxx) -> Razer Abyssus V2 -> ZOWIE EC2-A (+Razer DeathStalker Chroma)
rehepapp - Logitech MX 518 -> Razer Abyssus
s7ry - Logitech MX 518 (+SS QcK mini)
Sev3n - MS WMO 1.1a -> ZOWIE AM (+SS QcK Heavy) -> Ninox Aurora (+Razer Goliathus Speed Alpha)
sparks - Logitech G400s (+SS 6Gv2)
SPART1E - SS Xai -> ZOWIE EC2 HeatoN Edition
starosta - Razer Abyssus (+Razer Mantis Control)
stermy - MS IME 3.0
strenx - Logitech MX 510 -> Logitech MX 518 -> SS Kinzu v1 -> Logitech MX 518 -> SS Kinzu v1 (+SS QcK+ fnatic)
supremee - Mionix Avior 7000 (+Artisan xxx)
T1E - Razer Abyssus
T1HOL - Canyon CNR-MSO01NG (+ SS QcK+ SK + A4TECH Bloody B120)
tox - MS WMO 1.1a -> SS Rival 300 -> MS WMO 1.1a w. Logitech G303 internals (+SS Experience I-2 + SS 6Gv2)
Trajan - Razer DA -> Logitech G9x (+Razer Goliathus)
twister - MS WMO 1.1a -> SS Kana
unnamedtony - Logitech MX 518 -> Razer Abyssus (+Razer Goliathus Control)
URAZ - SS Kana (+SS QcK+)
visje - SS Kinzu v1 -> Razer Abyssus 2014
Vo0 - MS IME 3.0 -> Razer DA -> MS IME 3.0 -> ZOWIE EC2 eVo -> SS Rival
Weird - Logitech G5 -> "sum 2$ crap" : D
whaz - Razer DeathAdder 2014 (+Razer BlackWidow Tournament Edition)
winz - Razer Abyssus w. Salmosa internals -> Logitech G100s (+Ozone Ground level Evolution)
Xron - Razer Abyssus Mirror (+Razer Goliathus Speed + A4TECH X7 G600)
Yakumo - Razer DeathAdder 2013 -> ZOWIE FK2 (+Artisan Shiden -> PureTrak Talent)
Yrx - Logitech G100s (+SS QcK+ / Icemat / ROCCAT Raivo)
Z4muZ - MS IME 3.0
Zanzan - Logitech G400s -> SS Rival
ZeRo4 - MS Intellimouse (ball) (+Allsop Raindrop) -> MS WMO 1.1a -> Razer Abyssus
ZoOt - Logitech MX 518 -> ROCCAT Kone -> MS IME 3.0 -> SS Kana -> ZOWIE (EC2 eVo?)
ZorakWar - Logitech G400s (+Razer Goliathus Speed)
zsx - MS IMO 1.1a(?) -> MS IME 3.0
zyrinx - MS IME 3.0 (+SS QcK+) -> Logitech G100s


bps - Logitech MX 518 -> Razer DA
bulat - MS IME 3.0
KovaaK - Logitech G502 (+PureTrak Talent + Corsair K60)
LocKtar - Logitech MX 518 -> Logitech G400 -> Logitech G402
Mawe - Razer Copperhead (+Razer eXactMat)
Milton - Logitech G400 (+Logitech G105 + Ulti-Mat Breathe X4)
Murdoc - Razer DA (+Razer Goliathus Control)
ParadokS - Logitech G1 (+fUnc 1030 rough side) -> Logitech G400
rikoll - MS IME 3.0 -> Logitech MX 518 -> Razer Lachesis -> Razer DA -> Logitech G9x
Zero - ZOWIE EC2

abyssus

You posted MX 518 not long ago. Well, whatever.

Abyssus since 4th of december 2011.

421 uses now 1.1a (dunno WMO or IMO) guess abyssus broken
u can also add some players from ru community http://goo.gl/YEf3w if u want. spreadsheet will be updated and full in 1-2 days.

Updated.

outdated already ;d

In which regard?

pavel is using EC2 eVo for quite some time, cas and fearzzz are using g100s, I'm using an aurora, many people also changed mousepads. No idea about half of the list aswell since they're inactive for quite some time
I'll tell pecka to update the list after Prague LAN

Updated.

fearzzz not using g100s, he did not change mx518

Twister now uses Kana. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYuAPoodcD8 - "I'm using a steelseries kana with 400 dpi."

Thanks. I forgot about that one.

DKT using the Zowie FK

Note: I copied your list into mine, "list from nymphets" and provided a link to the ESR post.

http://pastebin.com/G8qUVjp3

Probably I could clean it up a bit.

updated a bit: fearzzz, cas, latrommi, cooller, noctis included

TL;DR

It doesn't really matter as long as it's not complete shit and is comfortable.

How can Strenx be using an MX518 when he's sponsored by fnatic who gets stuff from steelseries?

fnatic

Well hello there 2009.

who are u and why are u spying on me

Immigration bureau.

k1llsen - g9x [1000 cpi] (actually lower due to mouse drivers) (mx518 -> g9 -> g9x)
strenx - mx518 [800 cpi] (mx510 -> mx518 -> kinzu [800 cpi] -> mx518)
garpy - deathadder
av3k - kana [800 cpi] (mx310 -> salmosa -> kana)
noctis - salmosa/abyssus sensor [800 cpi](frankenmouse: g1 built into an ms "trekker" ball mouse ->
salmosa -> abyssus sensor built into salmosa)

cypher - kana [400 cpi](wmo -> deathadder -> abyssus [450 cpi] -> kana )
Cooller - abyssus [450 cpi](wmo [400 cpi] -> abyssus)
ZeRo4 - abyssus [450 cpi](imo 1.0 -> ie 3.0 [400 cpi] -> abyssus)
fazz - abyssus (wmo -> ie 3.0 -> Abyssus)
spart1e - xai [1800 cpi] (deathadder -> xai)
calipt - lollysus optical (wmo innards) (deathadder -> roccat kova -> kinzu -> abyssus -> lollysus optical)
linkje - kinzuadder [450 cpi] (wmo -> kinzu -> kinzuadder)
czm - kinzu (mx300 -> salmosa -> kinzu)

dahang - kana [1600 cpi] (Set to 800 cpi but is actually probably 1600 due to bug with his particular mouse) (ikari optical -> deathadder -> xai [1800 cpi]->kinzu 800 cpi --> kana 800 cpi)
chance - kinzu (salmosa -> white wmo -> kinzu)
DKT - Raptor M3 DKT mouse (g9 -> ie 3.0 -> Zowie ec1 [500 cpi] -> Raptor M3 DKT)
madix - imo 1.1a [400 cpi](ZoWie version)
zsx - imo 1.1a [400 cpi]
stermy - ie 3.0 [400 cpi]
griffin - ie 3.0 [400 cpi]
z4muz - ie 3.0 [400 cpi]
v00 - ie 3.0 [400 cpi] (IE 3.0 > deathadder > IE 3.0)
baksteen ie 3.0 [400 cpi]
dem0n - wmo [400 cpi]
bodzo - wmo [400 cpi](Ikari laser -> wmo)
fox - wmo [400 cpi]
jibo - wmo [400 cpi]
tox - wmo [400 cpi]
rapha - wmo [400 cpi](mx518 -> wmo -> xai -> wmo)

I think this is more accurate!

baksteen switch to kana though maybe?

stermy uses zowie ec1 now

How do you know this?

I see on facebook other day :O

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/4...5218_n.jpg

with a zowie g-tf ? I think that's a secondary setup

remember his stream, he was near a wall with a 2233rz and an ie 3.0 on a qck

http://www.twitch.tv/stermytv/b/307526996

you can see the zowie pad on the bottom left corner of the webcam pic

another case solved
to the stalkmobile !

u stalk pretty hard br0. props

No he does not.

it's vice versa, salmosa's sensor in abyssus shell

Ok.. does seem logical in a way since he liked the prediction on logitech mice.

av3k - kana ? u sure ?

Not really.

It's kind of what they were saying here:

http://www.esreality.com/post/2348723/should-i-buy-the-kana/

Although rapha didn't switch to the kana actually, so I donno.

Someone here said cypher was using a wmo now, and is k1llsen using the kana for real?

I'd also like to know if strenx officially went back to the kinzu v1. Can anyone confirm?

AFAIK he used the MX518 only for about 2 weeks, but wasn't happy with it.

someone asked him right this afternoon during a game streamed on qlranks, he's using a g9x on a qck fnatic

Quoting d1z from cypher streaming thread.
Just in case, for anyone whos wondering about Cooller's cfg (ask'd him on pub):

Mouse: Razer Abyssus, 1800 dpi
Mousepad: dunno, probably Razer Goliathus Speed
Sensitivity: 0.9
m_yaw: 0.017
m_pitch: -0.023
Accel: 0
Offset: 0
fov: 90

Yes I saw that too, but neglected to add it :-/

Thanks for the info.

I keep the list here:

http://pastebin.com/G8qUVjp3

cypher is back on wmo

How do you know this?

wow :D

<oxid`twister> havent used wmo in years
<oxid`twister> shittiest mouse ever

<T1E> kana ?
<oxid`twister> yes




<noctis> I'll take my life if you don't send me a bst mouse soon
<noctis> where are the razers

never believe quotes on the internet (c) t1e

<oxid`twister> havent used wmo in years
<oxid`twister> I am a raging homo since I stopped using it
<T1E> kana ?
<oxid`twister> yes but I still prefer dicks.

<noctis> I'll take my life
<noctis> cause I am emo

Still gold.

21:49  @oxid`twister : wtf
21:49  @oxid`twister : havent used wmo in years

YOU FUCKED UP SON.

21:49 @oxid`twister : shittiest mouse ever

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21:52 @oxid`twister : bought a new g400 some days ago tho

< Deathadder 3.5G/Diablo 3 QcK )))

what do YOU need a mouse for? def. not for aiming

I still need to aim, I just don't see walls.
If anything it's even more difficult than playing normally since I have to guess where the invisible walls are so I can shoot the enemy.
gtfo

what do YOU need a mouse for? def. not for defrag/speedruns

why not

afaik, voo used g400.

And I use a Kana now since October (woo my name's on the list!!!??!) =)

Why not? You're actually a pretty decent player.

:))))

Both madix and spartie were using DA 3g at some point iirc.

Any idea what mouse/setup if.Base uses? considering his recent insane aim boost im kinda curious :)

No idea.

Stermy has switched to the ASUS ROG Gladius, I asked him on his stream if he was still using the IME and he said even though it has "the best sensor" of any mouse he's used, the polling rate wouldn't overclock on one of his computers or something.

GaRpY said on his stream a while ago that he's using a Kana v2.

Also it could just be a rumour, but some people in fazz's stream chat said tox had switched to a Steelseries Rival, still using his Icemat though.

Randomly found this topic. If you want, update my list to:

MX300 -> G3 -> G100 -> G100S -> Ninox Aurora

You liked the G3? How the hell did this mouse work with your sensitivitiy?

At that time I was mainly playing WoW, and I played a bit of Quake with a sensitivity of about 40cm/360.

We have very similar tastes. : >

Long list. I guess the favorites were the WMO and IMO but now more newer mice are used.

Don't know if Lorfa has more accurate list or nymphets.

^
|_____LIST

I do use a Salmosa/Abyssus mod aswell. (It's just the top of the Abyssus on the base of the Salmosa really)

I tried the same, but ultimately chose pure Salmosa.

i dont use a 3.0 :(

Then what do you use?

ball mouse

we all know u got some balls

Which and why?

doesn't have brand, it's black, if that helps \:D/

it amazes me that people actually give a shit.

Whats so hard to understand? When you have a hobby that you share with other people, its interesting to know what and or how they take part in that hobby.

In photography its interesting to know what camera/lens/photo studio applications they use.

In bodybuilding people wanna know what kind of supplements/weights/reps/sets/ what kind of shoes others use.

Are you seeing a trend yet? So, now do you think its something unique that people wanna know what other peoples configs/monitors/mice and other stuff they are using!?!!?!

It's simple curiosity, I doubt many people (except Heartless, of course) are actually trying to copy pros setups.

i'm afraid you are wrong :)

K1llsen uses kana and in_mouse 2 now.

What's up with all the pros switching to Kanas?

Excelent clawable shape similar to WMO? Or sponsorship.

k1llsen? kana?

bitch please.

really=?

guys you forgot myself in your progamer list

heartlesss - SS kinzu v1 [800cpi] -> razer abyssus [3500cpi] -> zowie AM [450cpi]

Except that nobody cares about you.

and QcK Heavy ofc

Are the Zowie mice good?

very except for mico

yes they are,

they are the godtier of gaming mice

Logitech mx 518

How is the Zowie EC1 eVo? Also, anybody used it on a QcK+?

Yes. I have Zowie EC1 evo, EC2 evo, AM, FK and they all work really well on QcK Heavy.

Which do you prefer out of EC1/EC2? And which one is the biggest?

EC1 is the biggest. FK is the smallest. I got EC1 and EC2 plugged in, trying to decide which one I like more :D

EC2 is just a smaller EC1.

EC1 is a really good IE 3.0 copy in terms of shape. The only problem is "low" max tracking speed of only 3m/s. It should be fine for most players but some low sensers may experience skipping.

Hmmm, I would probably get the EC1 then, my sens ain't that low so should be fine :D
Thanks alot for your input :P

np mate:D

Thanks for giving these details :D helped me a lot!

I use the ms 1.1a

write that down!

You clearly missed #4. ; )

wow, I am actually in the list :D

That's why I said; read first, complain afterwards. : D

I use the mario paint mouse

yolo

I used the hard pad that came with MP until about 4 years ago. It was actually pretty decent.

I actually still have that somewhere along with the plastic mousepad thing it came with.

It had such high friction :-(

I just noticed this:

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/03/26/james-mike-play-mario-paint/

I wonder if it inspired your post, or if it was a coincidence :-P

ofc it wasn't a coincidence, but now I want a mario paint just for the hardware

The same mice all the good, average, mediocre and shit players use.

Why does it matter so much xD

its hilarious how some ppl think theyve to buy the same mouse like some pro to reach theirs level.

ofc it matters, as long as its a DECENT mouse.
the rest is all about matter of taste/preference.

I wonder if one day we'll see a mouse with four buttons on top; one for each finger (minus the thumb).

Four buttons isn't really a challenge... What about 16: http://m.techzine.nl/blogs/gadget/639/hands-o...glish.html

I can not stop laughing at this.

some can updates what mouse'n pads evil ,cypher, rapha dahang and strenx are using todays?

thnks in advance!

well, iam using the Deathadder 2013.

the new deathadder (chroma or so?) is great too. best sensors in those ;)

ok

he pro

correct.

Can someone please update the list to what they eat on a daily basis, what they drink, what clothes they wear, how much they lift and how many bitches are on their dick at any given point in time.

thx.

No.

y tho?

to be really pro, we gotta know.

drop some sick rhymes yo.

Couldn't care less about what they eat or what shape their shit takes before drowning in the toilet.

Regarding mice, it's simple curiosity, nothing more. Anybody who thinks he has to use the same gear as his favorite player or he has to mimic his way of living to improve, is delusional and won't rise above semi-shitter level, ever.

Paid my fines, RIPping the rhymes.

after using WMO 1.1a and dont getting a "new" one i switched to Logitech G403 and like it a lot maybe more than the WMO.

Heresy.

I'd like to think the mice that the pro's and most people are using, are the ones that work best for them and they also have cables attached to them.