Kinzu/kana/Zowie FK. More or less.

"More or less" - hehe
I'm asking specifically which mouse that is the closest here. And I know they are all close.
Ty for reply anyways

Probably Zowie FK1.
The other ones are smaller, most significantly in their average height (the bump might be the same height, but it slopes quickly on the front and back part [and to the sides], giving the mice a smaller "volume").

Thank you very much
Btw - have you noticed that many new mice today tend to be short/have low height? I feel a lot of discomfort can come from a mouse that is too flat because the hand does not have a natural surface to rest on. Even for claw grippers.

Yep, I noticed the same thing.
Razer mice tend to have a higher front part, and the Logitech G100s is pretty bulky. I just wish logitech would make a G100s with flat sides...
I think you can still find tall mice, but they are generally HUGE and heavy. :-(

Right now, I'm using a CM Mizar and it's rather comfortable for my claw grip. (And yes, A9800, which is actually not as bad as people describe it.)

EC1 evo is pretty big and tall. A bit more than WMO even

but Zowie FK1 -> 10g difference :P

Oh no! What a shit mouse!

got kana v2 88g and back of this mouse was a bit too heavy and annoying :P

hmm stupid question, closest to wmo is a wmo ...

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niqqas be movin on
cant be stuck in 2001 my mane

I just went from a wmo to zowie ev1 evo and its a perfect fit.. shape is a little different, even has a little bit off upturned sides on m1/2 kindda like razor DA but not as much. best sensor, good mouse, do recommend.

"best sensor" ;p

If the zowie AM was slightly bigger it would be pretty close to the WMO. At least the AM has enough room on the sides for me to actually put my fingers, unlike the FK.

shape is one thing.
the second thing is weight.
hard to have both similiar like wmo.

New Abyssus ? ;p same weight
g100s is some kind of wmo too :P

I have another question:

Closest shape and weight to a wmo with closest mousewheel feel ?

This made me smile :)

wmo wheel is quite shitty

maaaybe the FK1 with the 24 notch wheel, but I'll see when I get it and tell you, I also have a WMO with me to compare.

EDIT: I'm assuming you're looking for an easy to move scroll wheel and not necessarily an easy to press middle mouse button, right?
Also the weight of the FK1 won't be that close, the FK 2014 has the same scroll wheel though and is a bit lighter.

I tried the zowie FK that I bought at the party lan and I didn't like the mousewheel feel, so I sold it to a friend for 30 euro... :D

FK 2013, or 2014?

They changed the scroll wheel in a later revision.

I don't remember, I'll ask my friend :X

new abyssus is 80g like wmo.
WMO sheel is shit ;p

FK1 is 90 g

heard rumors about FK2

He changes weapon with the wheel, and he's used to the the light feel of the WMO's wheel even thought it has a really weird engage that can activate the next step up or down, but I guess the way he moves the wheel deals with that issue.

I got weapons on the wheel and random weapon change by wmo wheel sux dix.

really, wmo got the worst wheel i ever tried.

Yeah, my point is dem0n has a way around it that he subconsciously applies, and wants a smooth scroll wheel feel.

FK1 closest mouse as of today.
Then ec2, kana, old Fk
Then AM (smaller), ec1 (bigger)

Even the FK1 isn't as wide I think. Depends on if height, length or wideness is what you want.

probably there will be FK2 ;p

maybe the messiah? :P

80g weight is a must :P

Tape lead to bottom of mouse. Problem solved.

and it will make it lighter? ;p

Ah I thought not heavy enough. Well in that case just go above 12km height and problem solved.

Good idea. I'm applying for the Nasa ISS team 2020. Experiment: Playing fps games in micro-gravity for 6 months. Hehe.
Astronauts get sent up supplies, I get sent mice. jk

once they update the regular FK with a pwm-3310, they will call it FK2.

The WMO is still the best. Just wish Microsoft would rerelease it with a braided cord.

Right?! They have a whole line of absolutely shit mice, but for whatever reason MS won't touch the WMO.

I can't wait for some producer to re-build the wmo with exact shape just with a better scroll wheel and better sensor (so we don't have to tweak it).

The wheel and sensor are fine for me. The 125->500hz thing to increase tracking speed isn't sensor related, it's just old drivers, and I think it's sufficient with the 500hz fix. My only actual complaint is they die when the cord gets fatigued, that part sucks.

Is it hard to fix the cord?

Well you could repair and solder the cord, otherwise there's no way.

IS there a guide for this somewhere? :O

Interested in this as well, might be a job for my multimeter! Shouldnt be that difficult of a mod

Probably the same as soldering any other cord. If you can figure out where the break probably is, use wire strippers to remove the rubber, solder the wire it back together, then cover it in electrical tape. This description is a little bit of a hack, there's probably a more proper way also.

I'm not really sure which kinds of solder are best suited to a connection that's going to get pulled around a lot. Anyone who sells them would probably know though.

If they removed the thumb-rest that mouse would be more interesting

At first I thought it was some kind of parody. Then I felt sad.

A wmo would be pretty close, yes

Nixeus Revel

actually the revel looks pretty good ! i saw one reviewer said that the sensor had a little higher position then what he was used to, which is a good thing, means its more like a wmo ! =)

logitech g pro???????????

No, g pro has very different shape at the back.
With WMO you have your palm "on" it, with g pro you are literally feeling like grabbing the whole mouse (like holding a stone).

My g403 feels like this.. and i was on wmo before. Like the G403 so far... best mouse i used i would say.

Bought a zowie FK2. Felt different in start.
Feels amazing now.

isnt the fk2 really small?
im thinking about getting the fk1, which one is closer to the wmo?

FK1.

FK2 is reeeeally small.

The FK2 is smaller for sure. I haven't tried the FK1. But I think the FK1 is more closer to the WMO in size.

Nah. Everyone pushing the FK1, it's not a WMO replacement. Having both, then an original FK, an old AM, they're all too thin, too shallow, buttons too low, too heavy (although not bad)...

There are none TBH. Someone needs to bring a real clone with a modern sensor. The FM Tournament Pro / Scream One would be the closest, but we're talking FinalMouse here... The original FM was close too, except for that stupid thumb groove.

So which one is it?

Finalmouse?
FK1?
EC1-A?
Steelseries mice?