Why is this not about quake?

Because it's tagged as CS!

my heart is bleeding ='(

smoke looks so swweeeeeeeet

anything not quake gets 0 sorry, nice movie though ;)

anything not q4, cpm, or qw gets an 8 max ;p

at 1:41 the casters say thats Unreal while its obvious its cs:go.

on a serious note: this games highlights consist of aim, nothing more (actually there is smoke spamshots there aswell). Its like, these guys can point and click best. they sure aim well, but frag vids shouldnt be this boring. And thats with shout casters overreacting to everything that happens

anders has to be one of the worst casters for fake excitement, it sounds so unnatural

Actually, there's probably more brainwork in cs than quake.

as seen in this top10 video. all brain

didnt watch it, but ive watched and played plenty of cs.

So have I and, even tho I disagree with you,I never wanted to get into an argument over which game requires more thinking. I just said that cs;go highlights make for terrible frag movies. Now in good ESR tradition Im gonna make a chess analogy: chess is probably the most intellectual game ever developed, but still chess frag movie would fucking blow

So in order for a frag video to be interesting, lack of aim would be okay, but not lack of brain. Whereas in competitive CS:GO you can get by without heavy thinking, in competitive Quake Live you can get by without heavy aim. I guess we have to renovate the meaning of fragging so that these preferences start making sense.

You rarely see that much brain in frag videos tbh, but there is more diversity. Instead of headshots with 3 different hitscan weapons you see projectile midairs, kill streaks with various weapons used, combos, prediction, pummels, insane movement... This video shows insane aim skill, but atleast for me that gets old fast

It does get old fast yes, but your expectations of CS:GO are just silly and you're valuing some skills above others, especially ones that aren't comparable (projectile aim, strafe jumping etc).

Personally, I think that over reacting cast, mediocre midairs and shafts on people running/falling on straight line on countless Quakecon/Rapha montages is getting old as well. This movie in particular has one of those things in common.

Everything gets old eventually.

To be fair, a wallhacker doesn't have much of a valid opinion on brainwork.

Which is why you were asking me to send you cheats a year ago, lel. I'm not even talking about Quake and you would know that if you read anything.

I wasn't. Have a shitty day.

Nice try. Next time I'll try not to convince you to think otherwise.

On a completely unrelated note, for an ape it also takes more brainwork than for human to match different shaped things with different shaped holes.

casters are even worse in this video
ECHOOO
FREIBERG FRIBERRRG

lol

#7 and #6 had to be on #20 and #19 if at all.

I watch e-sports only for the last moment hype, when epic comeback happen. Commentators have to be hype queens. It's their job to make you feel part of what's happening.

However, I'll agree that THAT kind of hype is justified only for quake. On the one FACEIT highligh moment ddk's reaction was appropriate. CS:GO quad kill = 1 quake air rocket. His emotion felt fair for that instance.

Quake=chess
CS=aim
-- Meph1stoo

I would say quake=boxing

*chessboxing

and CS = whack-a-mole (be quickest to hit the guy that pokes his head out!)

Only thing Quake Live has in common with chess is that it's dying and you can pick it up from the dusty closet and play with just two people :>

You either can't read or you have an attention span of a gold fish.

to be fair there was 1 moment in the movie that showed some brainwork and actually outplaying someone. when edward gets that double flash in the #2 frag.

Yes, that was cool

reaction time =/ aim

the only cs:go movie worth watching is too much for zblock

That's CS:Source but I still agree

tru dat, meant cs in general

good times before move speed restrictions in cs. Why let something be cool if it can be dull. corner camping is the real skill

FROM IVY

OUT MIDDLE

AND THROUGH OUR CONNECTOR LIKE A SPEED DEMON

edit: i like this one the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqB1uoDTdKM

DISAGREE !

I hate ALL CS Movies :D

I like only one VID, because it is funny as hell ...

Killed You With A Wheel - Gamer Muscle Challenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl35QCbMi-c

THE END

I highly recommend you to watch "too much for zblock". Shits hilarious

do you mean the vid with the strafe jumping by mouse shaking ?

Bunny hopping

looks disturbing :D

It's same system as Quakeworld and Q3/QL follows very similar logic, you simply gain speed by turning in air/ground. Shaking the mouse is basically airstrafing left and right really fast to simultaneously give you speed and fly on a straighter line. You can shake mouse in Q3/QL as well, but it's harder because the angles that you need for the optimal curve gets steeper as you go faster.

I was looking this ...
*TrilluXe - too much for zblock*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1sCjVS2Ho

Ah, well that seems to be a parody of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRCeSpQUgbc

Whatever I said was on the assumption that you were watching this video. CSGO however should still at it's core have same physics as quakeworld, you can for instance do circle jumps (they call it strafe jumping in cs though) and air acceleration should follow same logic as Quakeworld, bunnyhopping is limited a lot more in csgo though.

That looks more like practical :D

lol yeah, that video is funny as fuck :P

#HowItsMeantToBePlayed

this was truly hilarious

Great soundtrack

superb casting

atmosphere

I'm sold! Can you link to the correct movie now?

Come on guys I don't think giving this a 0 is fair.

Elitist principle!

Truthfully though, there is only so many times you can see someone headshot four players in a row in positions that they could play near enough blindfolded.

Also, interestingly, with the number of CS GO games played at that level, I imagine it's near improbable that these streaks are going not to happen. So in that sense, what is special about these clips?

It just doesn't do anything for me :S The number of permutations/situations just seems rather low, at least in my view. And the execution/level of aiming doesn't excite me either. Perhaps its because I don't appreciate/understand the finer details, but watching tox hit 60% lg onto rapha at insane angles I currently consider to several orders of magnitude more 'difficult' thus more impressive.

The only thing that perplexes me about the video is the reaction from the audience & casters, it just seems like massive, massive, massive over reaction. But then again, I do actually remember GTV, so I perhaps that's a moot point :P

I was actually pissing around and rated it 1, but I don't think anyone got the joke.

It's at least solid 2/10.

If you ignore the finer details in both CS and Quake, I would say CS is more about the reaction speed whereas Quake is more about tracking and prediction. The thing with aim in Quake though is, if your opponent has better aim you have the possibility to counter that with better game awareness/control, so a really good aim in Quake is not rewarded constantly or even in some cases necessary. CS is an aim game, audience values raw performance and Quake is not as much, audience values strategy. Preferences go from side to side.

Wow, awesome!

no triple revolver kill
not entertained

get this monkey shit off front page of this site plz k thx bye

This is so unimpressive for the main part. Most shots are nothing more than average rails that instagibs. Even for a CS movie, most of these frags seem bland and mediocre.

And then there is the music... If anything is mediocre, bland and uninspired, the artistically retarded beat of that soundtrack certainly is.

A generous 4/10

In cs the hitboxes are smaller and have to be steady to shoot. You obviously dont realize how hard it is because you dont play the game (enough).

Also this is only LAN games, not some online 125fps competition with 200 euro prizemoney :0)

That beeing said, ESReality is filled with deathmatch/ctf players and I agree with ppl saying CS news don't have their place here...

ESR really doesn't care for aim because they play games where you don't need aim :>

Proper insight right here from a legitimate 1300 elo skiller

QL is not an aim game, you can get pretty far in high skill tournaments with inferior aim. Good accuracy is not rewarded as much as good control is and that's probably why it appeals to so many people in here. As a 1300 elo skiller, words can't describe how nice this boner feels that I'm having from this opportunity of going through basics with a grand master such as yourself.

Wait, you actually believe low accuracies are directly linked to inferior aim?

Damn, son

The weight of your game awareness and item control makes the importance of your accuracy pale in comparison. You don't need to have better accuracy if you have the armor to survive the hits. Damn indeed, I guess we both know at this point that I'm just right.

^ THIS IS WHAT GOLD NOVAS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

I realize Quake Live is important to you and that it's fun to exaggerate the depth of the game once in a while, but if you're going to exaggerate then fucking exaggerate and stop hiding behind your friends like a little girl and fight like a man.

You had 1300 elo in QL yet you talk like you know something. Just sush, little Pekka

You could use the time that you use lurking my stats to investigate the game that you're supposedly so knowledgeable of, actually you should look up what elo is as well. I'll give you a hint: It's not a measurement of intelligence or knowledge. If your elo is higher than mine then that more than confirms it.

just to give u a clue

without aim u go nowhere in ql

Aim is not a decisive skill in QL, unless were talking casual arena or instagib. It's unnecessary to have an accuracy past a certain point if your armor/health stack is high enough to counter an opponent with higher aim. If you can lose a game even though you're hitting more than your opponent then the game simply is not an aim based game.

"It's not a measurement of intelligence or knowledge. If your elo is higher than mine then that more than confirms it. "

Yep, confirmed, you are bitter that you could never surpass 1300 elo

I won't deny that, but I'm still right and your aim is still shit compared to csgo casuals :>

Something tells me that you would talk shit about any game you suck in.

Given the right context, you would also talk shit about CSGO because you seem like a really bitter person who complains about how skill-less every game is in order to distract yourself from your own shortcomings.

Feel free to prove me wrong with a screenshot of your CSGO rank, because I bet you suck there either. And one hint, Im LEM and I never played any CS game prior to Global Offensive. And I only played for a few months because my flatmate happens to like this game.

Oh so you're a LEM in csgo? Cool, but Quake Live is still not an aim based game. And I have no idea why you're interpreting that as me shit talking QL.

At last you managed to fix your arrogant tone. It still doesnt change the fact that anything you contributed so far is absolutely donkey-brained.

So far you've claimed that:

1. Low accuracies in a duel are directly linked to bad aim (trying to prove your point by posting a screenshot of a match between Rapha vs. DaHang, in which they had low accuracies)

2. Instagib is the most aim-demanding mode in Quake

3. Projectile aim doesn't count as aim

Thats why I called you out on your 1300 elo ranking in QL and on your low rank in CSGO, because more often than not, people who never got past a low level in a game arent really fit to analyze it.

Im not saying theres no exceptions to this rule, but you are definetly not one of them.

I fixed my arrogant tone because you can't seem to focus on my points otherwise. Your interpretation of my points are all wrong and even if that's what I said, I still don't see how I was talking shit about QL. I do recall talking shit about ESR and you though.

1. I've been saying good aim is not necessary if your item control is good enough, you can effectively counter a superior aim player with superior item control. Aim alone is an important part of QL, but with aim alone you'll go nowhere because the game does not reward that. You're right, the screenshot I posted was a bad example, because the winner had more overall damage dealt.

2. Instagib AND Clan arena demands more aim than vanilla. I did not single out either of them as the most aim-demanding mode in Quake. Ultimately accuracy doesn't matter, but the amount of hits and damage does. In Vanilla you can lose even if you hit more, that's why QL is not an aim based game. Again the screenshot was indeed a bad example of this.

3. I never even mentioned projectile aim. That's because it's not comparable in this argument (CSGO). Also, since we're going there QL needs a lot less projectile aim than almost any other Quake/Quake clone/mod does. Even TF2 requires more projectile aim.

Yet again you're misunderstanding the meaning of elo, it does not by any means dictate one's fitness to analyze a game. And so what if I'm low elo in QL, I'm better than you in QW, Quake2, Quake4, CPM, Xonotic, Warsow and any UT. I'm pretty confident that I'm decades ahead to you in movement in QL as well. And for the record I don't play CSGO, I don't know what your rank even means, but it's hilarious that you'd go so far to brag about it in an argument as if it matters.

Alright, I'm not even gonna point out how you just stepped back on every single argument that you delivered so far. I dont mind that you are trying to save your face now, since it seems to be a habit of yours to revise your opinions.

Anyway, since we got that out of the way now...

" (...) And for the record I don't play CSGO, I don't know what your rank even means, but it's hilarious that you'd go so far to brag about it in an argument as if it matters. "

You say that right after saying " (...) but I'm still right and your aim is still shit compared to csgo casuals :> "

I corrected your claim about me, since you don't seem to care much about the topic. Anyway, it seems like this whole discussion about games is a very, very personal matter for you. See:

" I'm better than you in QW, Quake2, Quake4, CPM, Xonotic, Warsow and any UT. I'm pretty confident that I'm decades ahead to you in movement in QL as well. "

That's a new level of desperation, man. I thought you are just a troll, but you seem to have a very serious inferiority complex. But judging by what I've seen from your playing in QL and CPMA, I'm beginning to understand where that comes from.

Cool, but Quake Live is still not an aim based game :D

You haven't provided any counter arguments to that besides crying out "^Look at this guy, hes wrong. plss help me" and comparing my QL stats which I didn't even know or care that existed in the first place. You probably made that up anyway, but I decided to go along with it because your feeble high horse only makes my arguments look so much better. I bet if Evil or Fazz or whatever came in and told you that Quake Live is an MMORPG, you'd be so delusional to believe that they're right.

Every single argument that I stepped back, that being every gag on the side that you took personally whilst missing what I had to say. I told you that your aim is shit compared to CS players and then you started bragging about your rank in CSGO. If you managed to debunk anything, it's the statement that your aim in CS is shit. COOL. I think you're calling me desperate now because you realized that you got there first and now you took the stab at that upon the realization while flapping your little schnappi fingers on the keyboard in panic before I could do it.

Thanks for biting, nothing quite beats the sound of a snapping cervix.

I havent provided any counter arguments, and I'm taking this whole thing personal?

Try this: Read our conversation from the beginning, but replace your name with PERSON_A and my name with PERSON_B. That might help you to take things less personal and see things from a more objective angle. If you want to keep deluding yourself however, fair enough, if it helps you sleep at night...

You can still call it off by saying you're just trolling because there's no reasonable or logical explanation to the level of shtick you're illustrating right now.

"I havent provided any counter arguments, and I'm taking this whole thing personal?"

- Continues the post without providing an argument and takes it personally yet again.

You're starting to sound a lot like a 1300 elo skiller yourself as well, since you're not knowledgeable enough to argue about your game.

I have played plenty of CS and can agree with GEKKO, i am global, even though it dosnt say much anymore, but still.

The casters fake to much, seems like all the frags are frag of the year.

I think everyone who's played CS for more than a year has had frags similar to those. Sure, they might've not been in major tournaments and they might've not played against organized teams, but if the circumstances are the same then what's the difference.

I suppose you are not aware that I played CS competitively from 1999 to 2009.

This is proof that Shootmania is greatest game ever

PJSalt

I used to love CS, but when you start looking at the random bullets its not as fun anymore. CS is way to much luck, happens all the time, that you miss or hit when you shouldnt.

Nice spam.

the sad part is, that most of these frags would not have happened, if the god of random bullet accuracy had had a bad day.

But it's totally fine if the god of random rocket prediction shots graces us with a few goodies.

random [...] prediction

does not compute.

That was a horrible example indeed, I regret posting it.

There's lots of luck involved in spawning though, especially the initial spawns. I don't think you know 100% where your opponent spawns everytime either, you only have a general idea due to the spawn system and sometimes you hit a jackpot with a "prediction" rocket, but I guess it's inappropriate to bring that up since we're supposed to be trashing the luck factor of CS:GO here.

So true, they compete for money and the bullets are as random as they are. Thats really horrible.

This only makes me miss RTCW :<

I've been having trouble sleeping lately, this should help.

Haha fuck me I can't still believe this 0 shit goes on, i'm sure your all in your mid 20's now or something and still act like your all 5 and even when this website is dying. All still sat there behind a desk with a headset on listening to my chemical romance still thinking its 2005 hahahahahaha

You totally do not sound mad

are u retarded? this is quake people are in their mid 30s and still listening to the Beastie Boys and shit

When I saw everyone downvoting a csgo vid on ESR I was kinda disappointed since I watch/play both CS + quake myself (as well as other games) and I don't think this elitism needs to exist. However I watched the vid and it's actually not great at all. For anyone who doesn't actually watch much CS, a lot of these frags aren't even close to the top 10 that were made in 2015.

4/10

Hint: A big part of the Quake community plays CSGO to a certain degree, thats why its childish to interprete the low score for this movie as elitism.

Its just a shitty movie, theres nothing else to it.


(The question whether CSGO fragmovies tend to suck in general however, given the nature of this game, is an entirely different topic and has also nothing to do with elitism)

>thats why its childish to interprete the low score for this movie as elitism.

How else would you interpret "anything not quake gets a 0 sorry" ?
I'm not saying everyone who voted negatively in this thread is an elitist. I love both games and I gave it a 4/10. I'm just saying that there IS elitism in this thread, I don't think that's an unfair generalisation to make.

I wouldn't call it elitism when one game is better than the other. It's just the truth. People shouldn't be judged, or labeled as elitists for having good taste.

It would be like calling someone an elitist because they don't like eating a poorly cut, overcooked steak from some franchise restaurant and would much rather have a properly prepared and cooked steak at a good steakhouse or at home.

>I wouldn't call it elitism when one game is better than the other.

:^)

Some players value raw skill and some value that when its optional along with strategy. Selectivity of preferences and the consciousness of belonging to that is pretty much the definition of elitism.

It would be awesome if Quake was still this exciting, hyped, and well known these days but it has had its time and this video is still cool nonetheless

NOT cool, you forgot the NOT. NOT cool.

The sad part is quakers for the most part don't realize going apeshit over some "brain play" in quake is about as pathetic as cs-ers going apeshit over these sort of "sick frags".

But one is pathetic because it brings pathetic tears of sadness when you realize how few people are into quake enough to enjoy the genius of the brain play, and the other is pathetic because it's just pathetic.

I gave up playing quakelive after the loadouts were introduced. I started playing CS GO and I actually think it's great. I mostly play 5v5 matchmaking games with my friends, so you generally find people at the right level to play against. If you get fed up with how shit quake is in its current state, it's worth a try.

Also the video was pretty cool although I prefer rifle kills to AWP kills.

You can play both games though, a lot of people do among Quakers. Besides, loadouts are now gone. Both games are different, I'm pretty sure no game is really boring in itself, it just depends on the player's state of mind, but I think the gameplay of Quake is really special. I've been playing some shooters lately and enjoying them (Arma 3, Duke Forever, Killing Floor 2, Red Orchestra 2). Still, even though these games are different and enjoyable, I still find an immense pleasure playing Quake Live because it stands out gameplay wise (timing, all different weapons, strafe and rocket jumps).

What I want to say is, don't get rid of QL, we need players :).

It's great for weak pussys who cannot handle a strong opponent and strive for "right level", "matchmaking" and similar crap for losers.

Wow, great image, keep it up, proud of you.

logged in to rate 0/10

ESR </3 CS

Could benefit QL and Reflex if ESR was newsing lots of CS:GO and attracting new readers.

like youd check hltv for quake content

Didn't even know that site :p.

0 because i'm butt hurt about quake not being as popular. Quake is the older game... i thought dad bods were in.

I remember Urban Terror for q3

Why bother having subsections for other games in this forum?

Rename the site.

ESREALITY.COM
WHERE QUAKE MEETS REALITY

Current name is already true. It's stupid to replace it with a complete equivalent.

Though i dislike CS I must admit this video is amazing.

The casters really put alot of action into it! They really know how to put the suspense up !

Quality casters which I wish we had in Quake :)

Quality tournaments and clans I also wish we had in quake.

Great video, but to be honest I envy the large competitive CS community which we once used to have :(

10/10 on my behalf.

i believe u just posted on a wrong site. its not ESCAMPERITY.COM
WHERE COUNTER-TERRORISTS MEETS TERRORISTS ON PLANT B. Its motherfucking quake and we will defend our precioussss

0/10. Because, why not?.

wait
tsm cajunb
wasnt this guy aeuropean quake dueller? (spanish iirc)

edit: i understand now
http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/4996-cajunb-rene-borg