https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ2ofp7bjxw

Someone make Quake Bullshitery Episode 1

That's pretty awesome, reminds me of stuff like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK72NMygid4

u wot?

livestreams from major tournaments

huehuehue as if there are any.

Oh cmon now that is just being pessimistic :(

I'm kidding, I'd happily donate some £ to get little cups or tourneys going to just keep the game alive, I've offered it many times and people have always just not bothered.

Wtf why would people not accept... Sounds like what we need :(

Overall I think tons more tournaments and livestreams would help a lot.

Community driven tournaments could always work and I'm always keen to sponsor some £

How would one go about sponsoring online tournaments. Are cash prizes important, or is simply having bragging rights just as good? Obviously I'm going to need a tournament website. I'm just noob, any suggestions would be amazing.

Cash is the most important thing. The reason everyone was leaving Quake for Shootmania and Overwatch was because there were going to be bigger cash prizes at the tournaments.

So what I've learned from this thread is this:

If quake should live, we need pools of cash for tournaments. That's the bottom line. Is there someplace where players can collectively pool or donate their money for tournaments?

Shirtless Fazz.

I'll put in a petition.

I would really like to see some new content. But not in terms of entertainment content, rather in terms of gameplay content.

How about we add the ability to color impacts, projectiles and trajectories; just like we had in Q3 Threewave?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ZB1RL31l4

We should insert a smaller plasma projectile model to make aim more sane with it.

After that we fix the buggy splash calculation.

Let us add projectiles going through teleporters, like we had in Q4.

Then we center the models within the hitcylinder and align it better with the movement animations.

Let us also implement interesting mods like honeymode or defrag.

Or how about we fix the netcode and run servers at sv_fps 125?

But then I remembered that you can't mod QL and we are forever forced to endure the final incompetence of the 2 loadout-scrubdate-creators.



worst quake of all times wot u expect m8?

So thanks for your totally off topic posts, not relevant to what I've requested but hey maybe, just maybe they'll see this and get to work on it!

Like the first 2 sentences of my initial post suggest, I don't share your limited view on community driven content saving quake when it is entirely focused on short time entertainment.
Your own 4 suggestions are so worn out, that you discarded one of your ideas right away. Or do you think another strafejumping tutorial on youtube will help?
Look how many useful new ideas your mighty request gathered up so far: 0.

You should think in larger dimensions and realise, that the game has to be more fun to play, in order to get played more often, which rather gets achieved by new gameplay content. I'm more ontopic in regard to "community driven content saving quake" than your entire thread.

Unfortunately, QL is missing the core feature that made the Quake series so awesome: the ability to mod the shit out of it.
People modded a fps title into a racing game, which they called defrag.
Look what OSP did to Q3.
Even Q4's retarded multiplayer (which made me go afk) got patched and modded into a decent competitive title (which brought me back to pewpew).
Already more than 20 years ago during the times of shooting 2d sprites in Doom 1, John Carmack understood that mod-ability is an important key feature and enabled it in games deliberately.

There were a number of keys to Doom’s success.
...
But there was the ‘mod-ability’ that which kept – you know – getting aid tons of length to the game and there was the multiplayer aspect.
...
It [Quake] did have the major things that we wanted there. It had the extreme mod-ability, the dedicated servers and great graphics.

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/john-carmack-on...ario-bros/



So thanks for your totally limited and therefore useless request, not relevant to the problem you try to solve. And I'm really sorry about my rant regarding the feature that really would have mattered.
Call me back, when your petition for a shirtless fazz saved quake.

He asked a pretty specific question and you went around that went into a obnoxious rant.
The fun part is that you think you are somehow more intelligent because of ignoring the question at hand completely ignoring the fact that your "request" is completely out of our control.

I would say you and a bunch of other people on here are the ones lending credence to what is wrong with this community as you are all a bunch of vindictive right fighting assholes that do nothing but drive the community downward with your incessant bickering.

You are free to prove me wrong the moment something positive ever comes out of anything you post/say or do.. even anything remotely productive will do really.

You are free to prove me wrong the moment something positive ever comes out of anything you post/say or do.. even anything remotely productive will do really.

I taught you uneducated swedy the difference between "then" and "than", which was quite positive and productive, do you remember it?
I can refresh your memory, it was the thread where you accidently admitted what a fake-accounting tierslummer you are and then became butthurt forever, as I pointed it out.

you are all a bunch of vindictive right fighting assholes that do nothing but drive the community downward with your incessant bickering

And that is coming from the most self-righteous white knight ever, who is flaming me due to his everlasting butthurtness. Puhahahahaha ... projection much?

The fun part is, that you somehow feel entitled to talk about intelligence and claim all my post are negative/unproductive, while you demand a disprove.
But at the same time, you are too stupid to click on my nickname to see a list of my last activities on esr:
- suggestions regarding weapon balance and gameplay improvements for duel
- appreciation of Carmac's trolling skills
- suggestion regarding a broken setting for the crouchslide cup
- appreciation of K1llsen's sponsorship
- review of Star Wars: Battlefront
- comparison of hit detection in QL and Reflex
- suggestion regarding an inconsistent pmove_bunnyhopping setting
- suggestion regarding what type of content really matters
All that unproductive negativity, wow. Pull your brain out of your ass, blondy. The only entirely negative activity I found in that list, is me bashing stinkerror for being a <9.5[cm/360] noob; which I would do anytime again.
Now I would like to see, where the positivity in your current comment is.

And since you like to make claims which are out of touch with reality and demand your counterpart to disprove your lies:
I hereby claim you are gay; you are the most fagnetic cockjockey ever witnessed by humankind.
You are free to prove me wrong.

I'll admit, i have no clue who you are and my response to you was a generally aimed at the whole of esr as the shitty attitudes prevailing on here has gotten out of hand.

I mean you completely ignore the first part of my post just to go on a tangent on how i was "wrong", you then try and insult me on a "personal" level even going as far as dragging something up that i wrote 1-2 years ago completely ignoring the fact that you dont know jackshit about the subject.

Im flattered that you remember me, im just not sure if i should take your obsession as a positive thing.

I remember you, because you are an intellectually challenged fake-accounting tierslummer; how does that flatter you? Must be easier to pretend that you are too retarded to remember how I made you butthurt forever, so you now can claim I'm obsessed because unlike you, I can remember things.

I don't know jackshit about the subject? So what do you know about the subject, which you claim to have forgotten?
You made a fake-account and lurked around on servers, then you whined about tierslumming because toxjq connected. Don't worry, my brain has enough capacity to compensate your void.

And speaking of ignoring your first section about being offtopic, I actually already explained that I would prefer game instead of entertainment content in the comments #10 & #15 even before you Wildling climbed over the Great Wall in comment #16, and again in comment #33 before your current reply about ignorance.
Are you immune to reading, is it your memory handicap again or are you trying to maintain your top level of projection?
You ignore the 80% of my post that vaporise your claims about "unproductive negativity"; but still feel entitled to complain about ignorance.
Also, you ignored my last section.

I try to insult you on a personal level? I bash you all over the place everytime again, whenever you try to flame me with lies, self-righteous pseudo-white-knightism, projection over 9k and your lack of brainpower!
It is amusing how you complain about bickering on esr by dialling 1337-asswhooping.

What was flattering was the fact that you hold a chip on your shoulder with my name on it, i find it entertaining that you walk around spending that amount of energy grinding your teeth together.

Especially about a topic you really have no clue about. You can call me a fakeaccounting tier-slummer all you want, it wont make it true no matter how many times you repeat it to yourself.

And i didnt ignore the first part, i admitted that i have no clue who you are, im just guessing that you responding with the same amount of uninformed bile last time, i just dont see any reason to keep track of shit like that, especially considering the few amount of times i visit esr nowadays.


But go ahead, write another 2000 word response about how you won an argument over the internet and how much of an idiot i am! :)

Do what makes you happy!

Your projection in the first section shows damn well, what a challenging task remembering is for you.

Lies, fakeaccounting tierslummer.

Lies, lol @ "uninformed bile" from author of comment #16, projector 9k+.

Wrong, see.

Done!

So the one comment were someone specifically wants you to answer with another 2000 word rant you make it as short as possible.

That and trying to contradict everything anyone says makes you look kinda petty.

1)
I don't give the slightest shit about what you want and I also don't feel like investing much time into your persistent and butthurt offtopic-whine, combined with your misinformed, braindead and fanciful assertions.

I would say you and a bunch of other people on here are the ones lending credence to what is wrong with this community as you are all a bunch of vindictive right fighting assholes that do nothing but drive the community downward with your incessant bickering.

(c) pitch, aka da_projector, fka da_white_knight

2)
I'm just telling the truth, it is your problem that it contradicts you.

3)
Petty fakeaccounting tierslummer.

Like the first 2 sentences of my initial post suggest, I don't share your limited view on community driven content saving quake when it is entirely focused on short time entertainment.

Yeah because I've mentioned subject matter that most individuals who support the game without having a massive skill set to produce is now seen as "limiting."

Your own 4 suggestions are so worn out, that you discarded one of your ideas right away. Or do you think another strafejumping tutorial on youtube will help?

Elaborate on the whole worn out element, I've seen less than a handful of entertainment based videos for the Quake series as whole. You might not know how Youtube works regarding videos, you can't just make one video and expect it go viral and garner up enough attention to project the game to ranks.

I would also personally rather watch 1 topic made by several individuals to see if I could pick up any knowledge, Again you might not know how teaching works in the respect that most people would learn from certain people differently.

Look how many useful new ideas your mighty request gathered up so far: 0.

You can't have a ESR thread post without someone posting a lovely condescending reply, instead of actually sticking to the original subject matter to help garner some fresh insight and ideas. So I'll plus your reply just cause.

Unfortunately, QL is missing the core feature that made the Quake series so awesome: the ability to mod the shit out of it.
People modded a fps title into a racing game, which they called defrag.
Look what OSP did to Q3.
Even Q4's retarded multiplayer (which made me go afk) got patched and modded into a decent competitive title (which brought me back to pewpew).
Already more than 20 years ago during the times of shooting 2d sprites in Doom 1, John Carmack understood that mod-ability is an important key feature and enabled it in games deliberately.
There were a number of keys to Doom’s success.
...
But there was the ‘mod-ability’ that which kept – you know – getting aid tons of length to the game and there was the multiplayer aspect.
...
It [Quake] did have the major things that we wanted there. It had the extreme mod-ability, the dedicated servers and great graphics.

I will wholeheartedly agree on this wall of text, straight out of the box quake live should've had the ability to being a mod friendly environment however, the initial browser based launch would have made it a lot more difficult - now that it's stand alone, we can only hope there will be an allowance for us to do so in the future (which is highly unlikely but we can only hope.)


So I'm not having a go at your thoughts I appreciate the feed back and your reply, it would however be a little better if you don't come out of the blue to bash some simple ideas.

Peace!

With "limited" I wasn't talking about the required skillset, I talked about the pre-fixation on entertainment and the achievable results.

Worn out:
Like you said, we had enough fragmovies. We also had funny highlight videos in the form of sections within fragmovies or ddk farming potatoes. Quake fails also appeared in fragmovies as outro compilations or in the form of vincent_vega's fragmovies. Tutorials about strafejumping and duel exist in a sufficient manner, even streams by k1llsen, zsx and rapha can be seen as tutorials when they commentate their decisions. As much as people hate on strenx, he combined all 4 elements + funny trolling songs + rage on his stream/lessons and achieved more viewers than any other individual pro player.
But still it was pure short time entertainment:
You click, you watch, you laugh, you finish but the game still remains shit.
Even attempts to involve the playerbase failed, like "send in your play of the week/month for an award".
It doesn't stop the stagnation of quake, at best it slightly slows it down.
All of those enterainment based "new ideas" got old and boring pretty quick. I can't just sit around and watch more than 10 minutes of the overplayed maps with boring +back spamfests of a stagnating gameplay from people that beat their enemies by outfarming items, when you find me in twitch chat, I got multiple poker tables open on the 2nd screen and am listening to music, because Quake alone would just be too boring.
Quake got ruined into oblivion, why you talk about going viral?

And there won't be 37427547 videos for the same topic, just so everybody can understand it, Quake doesn't have the numbers in demand (students) nor in production (teachers).

Esr plusses are worthless, just look how I made pitch butthurt ages ago and he starts flaming me with "mimimi, incessant bickering is bad for the community, mkay", while such trash gets plussed by the others who I made butthurt, ridiculous, the % are just a butthurt-o-meter.

Actually, I asked to add content to QL for free, like adding more crosshairs and coding a ranking/matchmaking for them.
The problem wasn't the browser/standalone client, it rather was motivation, licensing and sponge's everlasting comparison to "opening Pandora's box". Which was perplexing to me, because a helping hand is always nice, I didnt't want any money and additional competent people working on new content for the game didn't seem like something bad.
But I gave up on those two, as I once met stinkerror on a ctf server and reported to him, that the scrubdates accidently changed duel's mg starting ammo to useless 50, upon which he replied that this ain't a problem because you can quickly restock mg ammo with the unified ammo boxes. Just those unified ammo boxes don't exist in duel.
Another slap in the face was as some passionate kangaroo-knights outperformed the progress of QL in their spare time.
As much as people hate on Reflex, if we had their dev team right away working fulltime paid, QL would have the map editor that is more fun than the game itself and by now, you could use console commands to buy prostitutes.
So the only sane conclusion to me is: get modding or die trying.
But I can't see it happening: the devs won't see the need, zenimax licensing, steam/vac-compatibility, Pandora's box, blablabla ...

And like I said hijacking your thread, I'm not interested in more short time entertainment, I would prefer community driven content in the form of new game content, like cg_nomip, gtv, an improved enemy model or basically anything that makes the game itself more interesting to play (and watch).

So I'm not having a go at your thoughts I appreciate the feed back and your reply, it would however be a little better if you don't come out of the blue to bash some simple ideas.

There is quite a contrast inbetween this statement and your first reply in this conversation.

i think the one main thing missing is entertaining videos with personalities from the scene. All you ever see from most people are either dead silent streams or people whining (that includes myself and a bunch of other people aswell).


So in short... more positive interaction and fun situations!

It's a shame more players don't stream. I'm going to get mine going once I figure out OBS/Twitch settings (I have 200dl/25ul and get lag if I stream lol...) and just leave it on when I play. It's always a shame that there's so many players of all levels and barely anyone streaming. I'm low/mid level but at least it's 'something' for people to watch etc. Other games have loads of people streaming at all times, in quake you can open up twitch and see zero channels sometimes.

Well i wish i could help you out more, im rarely available on anything nowadays.

Though, what kind of issues are you having and what kind of lag do you have?
Are you using wifi and do you have nvenc or quicksync? (available on sandybridge chipset and forward).

Anyway, if your computer can handle it try using
1500 bitrate, preset: fast, downscale to 1280x720 at 30fps.
This should look good and be ok for any bandwidth, only issue is it will stress your cpu more as it is using higher compression compared to the other presets.
If you are getting unmanagable fps drops ingame try using something between ultrafast and fast.

A community can bring more players, but the game has to encourage the community too.

Imagine if we had a site where you could queue for 4v4 CA in a team of friends. Casual scrubs would in theory be able to jump in and dick around for an evening, and make videos or livestream them just enjoying themselves while a site holds their hand and puts them in servers. As it stands in Australia looking for games is frustrating, and people don't play with their friends much unless their friends are also Quake diehards.

This goes along with what Pitch said above me. It's just I dream of giving players more tools to have fun rather than relying on the game in place to provide it.

Maybe this is just a pointless ramble like that other guy above me though.

Try to vid yourselves plyin various games and then playing ql. Or play various games with some frineds n then ql. Every other game has dead moments where u vent or have time to process what happened and have a laugh about it. You have time to chat, think and come up with something wack strategy wise to make it funnier or mre interesting for you or your friends. Then u play quake and the game isso fuckin intense, you are lcked into it, if u try something but u are even a bit su par compared to ur opponent u get obliterated in shame. If u then try to distract yourself or have that brief moment of understanding of... Hey i respawned! Wtf im gettin hpt and i'm dead again! What just happened? So u lock in even more to try to keep up, you have less nd less time for all thats the entertainment around the game, so u wont talk to your friends or the stream as much, and given how engaged you are when u do u probablysound between really concerned and angry. Fun times! In the meantime there are no cosmetics and little to none tpersonalizzable and palatable features.
Quake doesnt lend itself that much to fun as in casually having good times and relate to people while playing.
Look at the pros, even them, people who aim and move in quake like second nature, even them have little to no time during the game to comment or fuck around that much, because every tenth of a second matters in quake in somany ways and they know it. Ad what if you are dueling a peer? Then u have to keep track of so many fuckin things one doest ave time even to explain half of them. All of the above without mentioning the amount of punishment u get to become good at the game. Everyone gets absolutely rekt in so many ways its embarassing. Takes a special person to make quake palatable to casuals.
Wtf am i talkin about, not even casuals! Hasnt watching k1llsen and rapha smash opponents withut a single ounce of effort gotten old? Yes,, very quickly for me (and thats wy i like watchin agent, coz he fucks around more and always tries to play good positioning and good item play).
why do u ppl think cooller has so many fans in quake? He makes it sofuckin exciting in so many ways against a more stale gameplay where evil and the likes just shove their cock down the opponents mouth most of the time. So even the gameplay got stale now for quakers and very very few ppl make it real interesting. And basically none of them makes it so in a relatable way because of the nature of the game and all of what it brings.

Tl;dr: lack of fun times in a relatable way is the nature of quake

- play CA
- go bridge alone
- die after 1-2 secs
- now you have the time for chat/voicechat/laugh/rage/

This is exactly why 2GDs idea of tdm with halftime sounds good to me

community killed this game. back when quake live was centralised, in ids hands, we had good servers and a ton of players and a steady influx of new maps.

nowadays half the playerbase quit because they were too stupid to install QL on steam before full steam move and are jewing out for €2.

the other half quit cause community is too jew to buy proper servers so we have to play on cardboard crapboxes that are somehow connected to the internet.

Agreed, id strategy of not telling before that without update you had to pay was bad.

ID played a horrible role since QL came out and now you blame community for ruining the game where ID dropped support, massively. They didn't pull the plug cos of "pity", that's why you have to pay 2 euro for it, you think steam will give away that infrasctructure for charity?

There's a lot of stuff that could have been done better since QL was born and we'd probably have a game as big as teamfortress (being realistic).

what are you talking about? the community apparently doesn't give a fuck about this game even after all the efforts id software put in over the last 5 years, bringing us new features & maps on a monthly basis.

if this community was so great, they'd at least buy decent servers. let alone do actually usefull stuff.

A monthly basis? pls

first impressions do count:

- QL gets launched and for many people outside the genre it is something worth to try out. It turns out it has q3 graphics and there is a queue to play. This was the big wrong move. New fresh players just didn't have an incentive to play the game.

- ID thought the fans would just play the game cos of big fame.

2nd of all, separating the noobs from the pros while teaching noobs to be pros.

- Bad infrastructure, no leaderboards or rankings, matchmaking of any sort.

- Rather low efective tutorials or trainings (And please don't tell me ql has proper trainings...)

3rd, ID never cared enough, the people working on that company slowly switched projects and motivations, it has always been an engine software development with sp games on them. Bethesda cares more about other titles.

- 2 devs (not even gonna question their job this time), are not enough people to run a game.

Think about it, QL was great when it started but it never stopped to go down, slowly. I think there's a clear before an after, when dreamhack dropped quake from their tournament list. The only big esport event that treated arena fps as one of the greater ones.

what arena FPS needed back then and still needs is a proper new quake with priorities well planned. NOT TALKING ABOUT REFLEX, a true quake from ID software. Unlikely to happen.

not just q3 graphics, but q3 movement[i know its not exactly the same, but its close].
shit gets old quickly, especially on team modes.

only reason I'm returning to ql is because they added crouch sliding mode.

Root of all problems is Bethesda. If id sold out to some other company we would have a proper quake sequel already.

I think they just don't really know what quake MP is about... that's all. They are concerned about another demography of gamers and it's turning out great for them. Why do something different?

"The post-apocalyptic open world game ‘Fallout 4’ earned over $750 million in 24 hours." (fortune.com).

it has always been single player franchise. The only chance is that their direction decides to go for a good multiplayer platform after doom4 with the name of quake 5.

However my faith in quake and ID went away long ago, otherwise i wouldn't be so involved with reflex.

Thats just it. Bethesda cant make anything but sp rpg

they can and do make a shitload of good games, it's just that you ignore all that isn't online arena fps.

Their best games are sp RPG games (fallout, elder scrolls). I don't doubt for a second that those are good games. Its obvious tho that they know shit about making mp fps games and that's why its a shame they control id

QL exists since 2007-2008, and so that's when the crucial bad decisions were made (everything described by memphis). Id was bought in mid 2009, so after those mistakes.

The only thing I disagree with his post is what could revive the genre. Id software hasn't made a brand new"arena" shooter since 1999, so they clearly are not going to save it. Moreover, almost a decade of mistakes with QL and with the Doom franchise shows id software doesn't cut it anymore.

The tutorial has always been terrible. And people always refute this and say "There's so many video's on youtube etc" and that just doesn't cut it... People are lazy, they want the tutorial in game. Most games have a fairly lengthy tutorial that slowly builds up the ideas while being easy. Ie. very simple strafe/circle jump etc. But not 'hard' ones. I know it's a hard game but if you want more new players it has to be more accessible.

I also think duel/ 'competitive' modes should be locked. You should have been allowed to launch a duel game with friends, but only with friends. Ie. you can join duel games your friends are in. But until you're a certain 'level' or standard, you can't play in public duel games. I've had so many people join and disc after 1 minute and you can see that they've now discounted the whole game mode instantly.

maybe map specific tutorials for all gamemodes.... for ctf, a good video could look like this:

1. the basic things about the map: name, short name (like wcp9 etc.) how old is the map, how frequently it's played
2. Items on the map: what kind of powerups, what kind of items and the spawn times, what kind of weapons
3. positions: the most important part... explain what kind of positions usually work best on the map, explain every position while running through the map; show clips of good demos and comment on what the guy is doing and why
4. movement related stuff: fastest way to cap, map related jumps (e.g. ironworks RA to base etc.)
5. optional stuff: highlights, cool frags, funny fails, some recordings of voice coms etc.

there is this guy named ZeroEmpires who does Age of Empires 2 related content on youtube... for an old game he has an incredible amount of views, mainly because his content is fun to watch...

i agree with OP that good community driven content can contribute to a game's popularity...i also have to agree with SmackGyver.... no mod support really limits the things we can do

perhaps this would help aswell :D

old-style Q3 maps. i have seen some amazing maps, from castles with dungeons, to spaceships, to enormous castles .. would like that back, plus a reworked end-game map vote.

Would people be interested in a "magazine" type show around the current quake pro league / scene.

Shit like plays of the week and just general analysis and interviews with someone of the players etc etc... ?

Maybe try keep it interesting by having some giveaways or some shit too.

A podcast like that would be great. Like a recap of cups with highlights of certain games and rapha style analysis

Yeah that could work too!

Fuck yes #2

Yeah need to keep a bit of diversity going.

Sounds like what level up tv was doing!

Sounds amazing

Fuck yes 1.

What about a community run map hosting website that had proper details about maps, screens, videos and some sort of tagging/rating/featuring system and was moderated? Steam seems like a bit of a free-for-all

http://lvlworld.com/

Sounds good!

is too late

sup ins

Is too late, baby, now. Is too late.

The content is out there already. In Youtube, Twitch and on the Internet as a whole there's dozens of great tutorials, hundreds of fantastic fragmovies and thousands of great mods and maps.

The problem is the same as ever: it's not centralized. Without being able to find the content then it seems like it doesn't exist.

So, while it's obviously more appealing to create a fragmovie, in actuality what would be much more of a contribution would be a website (or an updated multi-page thread here) that has everything about Q3 and QL in it.


edit: and secondly, anyone can upload maps to the QL workshop. That's a great way to fix the lack of community driven content in QL, but very, very, very few people here have uploaded stuff. Personally, I was loosely involved in the upload of the RA3 and WCP maps, but there's literally dozens of thousands of Q3 maps left to upload.

there was a youtube channel called "php breach" or something like that which had 100+ fragmovies, cant find it now

There's others too, like
https://www.youtube.com/user/decebal01US/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrHollyDriv3r/videos

The thing is there should be a site that has the links to all those Youtube channels, all centralized.

Also that site could organize dispersed content. For example Quake once was featured by Eurosport, but that content is not advertised and organized anywhere, so it's as if it doesn't exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE16KnN3GaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhLzEjgi19U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQj1_XxrL5w

In the end what's needed now is not someone creating yet another tutorial that's not going to be nowhere near as good as 2GD's or strenx's tutorials, but someone that organizes and publishes the latter.

Or in other words, at this point I much prefer this over this.

Well ESR could perfectly be that site. It already has a movies section, just needs some steroids to give it the functionality and presence it deserves.

Also, currently, old movie threads disappear into oblivion unless someone bumps them, but if there was a section where they were sorted by rating the great movies would always retain visibility regardless of their age. Then there could also be a sidebox showing a random recommended fragmovie