Essentially, my mouse has started skipping occasionally. Yes, it's wireless but this never used to happen; the mouse is just over a year old and has led a very sheltered life. I'm using a sharkoon mousepad, tried different surfaces which made no difference. Using windows 8.1 with logitech setpoint software. I tried powering the mouse up fully, which made no difference. I also tried cleaning the sensor.
Each time you can see that I start to move the mouse, the xhair then goes perfectly still and then covers the distance at a uniform speed. Keeps making me fail circle jumps :s
And no, it's not some aim toggle :p
I wonder if any of the kind and knowledgeable citizens of esr could cast their opinion on the problem (and recommend me a proper gaming mouse while they're at it).
Any help is much appreciated :)
Edited by earth_quake at 18:49 CDT, 13 March 2015 - 4670 Hits
Palm grip, sharkoon cloth mousepad, and I'd like to have some side buttons and a scroll wheel.
The mouse I'm using has a button that locks/unlocks the scroll wheel so you can flick it on long websites. Great for scrolling esr :D Useless for gaming though...
only gaming mouse I know of with that lock is the logitech g502. I've heard some people like it for palm, although to me it feels better as claw and fingertip. It's also on the higher end of the weight scale for gaming mice.
if you can get used to the weight, I'd go for the g402/g502. A plus for the logitech would be the insanely low click latency.
I've personally never had any good experiences with any zowie mouse on the planet (I own four and had two more so nobody can say I never tried to like them), so I would suggest avoiding them at all costs, and I could never recommend them in good faith to anybody.
I'm wary of recommending a deathadder, because some people hate the shape and some people love it. but for what it is, it's very nice. If you get along with the shape, I'd probably recommend this as the best.
You could also go down the route of the asus rog gladius, which allegedly has a 2000hz polling rate option (although i doubt it'd be stable), or something like the CM Alcor which i've never tested so I can't really comment on it.
Button lag on most of their models before the ECa models, the FK1 I had definitely had lag so I don't trust the FK2 because their PCBs are interchangable, and I haven't seen proper tests for the ECa models yet but they look promising, other than that iffy shell construction and mouse configuration issues.
I'll just reply to this post instead of the one above.
Button lag was a pretty bad issue for me, however what was worse was their incompatibility with many of my mousepads. Didn't work well with my Artisan Zero, Hayate, SS QcK Fnatic or Razer Goliathus, I was getting a lot of jitter and my mouse would track incorrectly entirely in some cases.
I didn't get these problems on a plain black QcK or just on my desk, though.
I also hate the DPI steps, no other company does them and there's literally no advantage to having 1150 over 800 or 2300 over 1800, for example.
I hate the material zowie uses to coat their mice. It's rubber, but it feels different to other rubberised mice I own. It absorbs sweat from my hand really well, but for some reason my hands only sweat when they touch this coating and nothing else. I usually play with a logitech g400s (amazing mouse btw) and my hands are completely dry even after 5 or so hours of using it without a break.
And this last one is probably personal, but I hate their shapes. The EC1 has a similar shape to the deathadder except it has this disgusting outward slant where I'd usually rest my ring finger which forces me to either claw grip or gives me cramp after about 10 minutes of use, despite the fact that the EC1 is designed for palm grip.
The only decent shape I tried was the zowie AM, and even then it felt like a bad ripoff of a steelseries sensei shape (the sensei sucks, but the shape is actually one of its few redeeming qualities).
So all in all I'd say there's a lot of good reasons to avoid zowie mice unless you've tried them and specifically like them for whatever reason. Having tried six, I can say for sure I'll never buy one ever again. The one thing I do like, though, is the lack of a driver, and the fact that you can toggle the DPI via a switch on the bottom of your mouse. More companies should do it like that.
As for the weight, as Rauvz said neither the G402 or G502 will be a problem since they're both significantly lighter, even though they're still considered "heavy" by some. It's pretty rare to find a good, light palm grip mouse nowadays though. I think the CM Alcor only weighs about 90g or something though, so that might be worth a look.
Thanks for taking the time to write this lengthy reply!
I'm coming from what I'm sure a lot of people would say is a very poor gaming mouse...wireless and heavy. However, the build quality is amazing, and I have a feeling a zowie would feel very flimsy in comparison. It could be purely psychological (using the test found here I can say that I cannot detect input lags of less than 10ms, although I'd wager I can in quake) but I read that the wireless connection in my mouse alone has a response time of 6ms...
I like the look of the deathadder, do you have any experience with that to share? I just want as many opinions as possible :p
I have a deathadder 3G (1800dpi max) and a deathadder 2014. When I'd tested them, I ran them both @ 1800 dpi / 500hz, uninstalling Razer synapse after the initial configurations were made. Both were tested on an Artisan Zero + Steelseries QcK.
I stopped using my 3G deathadder because I preferred the shape of the g400, although I can honestly say that the mouse really performed well and I was playing pretty well with it, although at the time I'd never even touched quake before (I'd tested it in similar games though and had no issue).
The deathadder 2014 felt slightly crisper in terms of responsiveness, although it felt a little fatiguing to use if I was playing with it for more than 4 hours in a row (yes I actually used to do that sometimes before university started, ikr nerd4lyf).
There weren't really any "problems" with either of them, I stopped using them because I found the magical g400s, which is basically just as good as the deathadder in terms of performance except I preferred the shape by a huge margin, felt way better for my palm grip.
As I said, the shape is definitely the most polarising feature of the deathadder. I personally didn't mind it, but I know some people absolutely love it and some people absolutely hate it. There will be an adjustment period like there would be with all mice of course, but I'd suggest you try just holding one or something if you can first, just to get an idea of what it feels like in your hand. I'm certainly playing a lot better with (and I feel a lot better using) my g400s atm. The G402 is the newer version of the g400s, which is why I'd suggested it, but if the design puts you off that's understandable, as a lot of the stuff logitech puts out nowadays looks like a piece of robotic genitalia.
At the end of the day, I honestly believe having a "flawless sensor" is overrated. As long as the mouse tracks decently, doesn't jitter and is comfortable for you to hold, that's all that's important. Please don't compromise on either of these three things though. :p
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