so I just googled overwatch to find a source.. and found this. lol

That's pretty cool. They totally failed to reach their goal though :
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/overwatch-...bat-gaming

Certainly looks wtf enough.

It's Team Fortress 2 except MOBA. The only problem I see here is that both Team Fortress 2 and [MOBA] already exist and are quite popular.

http://eu.battle.net/overwatch/en/

You can browse heroes and their abilities.

Looks fun, somewhat cheesy tho.

This is not Blizzard North anymore.

You said it.

way too many casuals aspects to be enjoyable :c

I didn't think it was possible to dumb down LoL but Blizzard managed to do it with Heroes of the storm. Looks like the FPS genre is next...no doubt it will be the most played FPS.

i wonder when you get older and you will enjoy more casual play, will your mind-set of nubing down, hinder your enjoyment for new games.

I guess my comment comes across as harsh. It's hard to draw any final conclusions yet. What I've seen is a cross between TF2 and MOBA's, with some superhero global taskforce theme. I am sceptical about having 3 skills + an ultimate per character in an FPS, like in MOBA's. A few skills looked nice like the hook but others like wallhack or the guy spinning around shooting anything around looked very "noskill".

I'm disappointed by everything Blizzard has done since WoW and what they've done to WoW for that matter. Up until WoW everything they made was top notch but the merger with Activision changed that from my perspective.

Pretty much the only modern games I enjoy are indie games since most modern games suffer from the same thing as most Hollywood movies imo, dumbed down for the masses. Most games I play are from before 2004 :]

Honestly, it looks good!

It will be a game about teamwork where using skills as a team is more important than accuracy.
Rage inducing faggotry over internet: The game

In the past I used to hate this kinda game, but nowadays I kinda find it good, I think this is one of the reasons why LoL and Dota are so popular. Think about it. (honestly i prefer to choose to play qw, ut or "arena fps games" but i think i have to give it a try)

Ain't nobody need to think about it.
Blizz makes games for EVERYONE which is cool for everyone but not me : 3 :

sad, but true

More casual than Hearthstone???
Blizzard \o/

the concept is cool but it seems to be poorly executed. the characters don't fit with each other. loads of autoaim, aoe, no skill bullshit and the cartoonish theme is getting old. this is basically tf3 except if valve had made this the characters would be more fleshed out, cohesive, and unique, and the gameplay more tight. it's also most likely going to be f2p, which probably means hours of grinding to get a complete experience.

overall i'm disappointed. i expect more from blizzard. sloppy.

overall i'm disappointed. i expect more from blizzard. sloppy.

Blizzard read your comment and they are cancelling the project :<

Looks fun.

blizzard tf2?

dirty bomb with gorillas and archers and fuckherrightinthepussy
and yes team fortress 2

Splash Damage is so unlucky huh

ET:QW vs TF2.... fail
Dirty Bomb vs Overwatch... ??

bad karma forever for killing q3f with patch 2.0 IMO!
Also it aint bad luck its just plain ineptness. They suck, basically.

Lets not forget brink. :D

I liked it... but they fucked up release :/

I suggest you stop playing your silly, competitive, niche community shooters and bow to the king, Blizzard.

Definitely looks cool! Very casual of course but I hope they have enough skill elements in there to keep it competitive. With blizzard behind it I guess we can expect some huge tournaments too. Could be a chance for us deathmatch players to show some of the skill we all keep talking about?

lol

expecting huge tournaments? yes
expecting competitive features? look at hearthstone, that still bugs out and has 0 competitive features built in.

The main thing Hearthstone has lacked is a spec feature, which the upcoming expansion is adding.

i know they are, took em a year though :p

and as far as i know you can still ragnaros kelthuzad and kel will rez himself...

they already play Halo with controllers on ESL.TV pretending that it is some kind of esports, sure this one will have tournaments if Blizz throw some bucks in.

Looks very bad.

TF2 and dirty bomb looks much better.

You can stop commenting on your opinion about blizzard.

You and the other 49 reflex players will have plenty to keep you busy.

I feel like a smart ass, today. Sorry. =(

rotfl

go and play heartstone

The only thing I know about hearthstone is that it looks boring as shit. I tried checking out a couple videos. Looks, well, boring as shit.

Anyway, I was only trying to have some fun. No offense meant. That's why I said 'Sorry.' Though, offense meant or not, reflex will never succeed in the way that oh-so-many people want it to. :D

I am curious, though(genuine questions incoming. no sarcasm intended): Where do you expect reflex to end up? You hype the fuck out of it, so, I'm curious. Do you think there will be big lans? Do you think there will even be 1,000 unique steam players, once it's been officially 'released(out of alpha/beta stages) for 1 year? 2,000? 20,000? What?

Or is it just something you want to play, want to be successful, even though the odds are horribly stacked against it? I'm honestly curious. Because, this is what I see, as someone that only pays attention a small part of the time when people bring it up on ESR:

$81,321
pledged of $360,000 goal(

I like Reflex and got best wishes for it. But I don't really belive of its success or any other arena fps. The whole thing about ql > cpm makes me laugh. Wow QL with 1k players max, really impressive. WHole genre seems to be dead.

Yes, it was something that I wanted to play and to be successful. But even if it doesnt have any chance for success there is no reason to have hype for dumbed down looking as shit fps from blizzard. There are other fps to play or other games.

the time of arena fps games seems to passed away. Today players are not expecting anything like this. Reflex could be great game but still any shittier CoD will gather much more players.

Best chances got Quake 5 or UT44 probably.

PS. Heartstone is so boring that I couldnt finish tutorial...

AHA! SO YOU ADMIT IT! You tell me go back to hearthstone but it was YOU that actually spent money on it! You're a phony! A BIG FAT PHONY!!!!@312!!!!

:D:D

Okay, moving along to my actual reply...

I have not heard of this Q5. UT games, are they ever wildly popular(edit: when compared to other fps at their times of release)? I was under the impression that it was the engine that most were stoked about, as opposed to the game. UT is a clunky piece of shit(imo). I hate the movement. I know that it is not quake and I'm not saying it should be like quake. I'm saying I hate the clunky-ass movement. =\

> the time of arena fps games seems to passed away.

I hate that sentence because it's been true for a good while. Things are just hanging on, anymore. I'm concerned about what will happen to arena fps, too. QL will surely die sooner than I'd like. Then what? Go back to Q3? Fuck that. The community will just die before everyone goes back to Q3. QW? Doesn't seem likely, either. So, we're left with 2GD that will never make a game that he told everyone he would. Reflex, which, we've already covered. A failed-soon-after-release UT4(by 'soon,' I don't see major lans after 2 years, max. plus i won't play it so whatever). And a Q5 that I've never heard about from id software.

CS:GO isn't 1.6. Source is awful. I swear to go it looks to me like in 2 years or less, I'll be play hello kitty adventure island. =(((

Lastly, about the blizzard game: We haven't even seen real gameplay of it, unless I missed a video? Their reveal was obviously not actual gameplay, of course. It's meant to explain it.

While many hate blizzard and what they did to SC2, Diablo 3 and the last WoW expac(though, it would seem that millions and millions seem to love it, still), I can't discount a company that was entertained me for literally thousands of hours. I give myself 15% chance of actually playing overwatch, but, I can hope and know that, if I do, there will sure as hell be a massive playerbase compared to QL. xD

HS is f2p ;)


Overwatch gameplay http://youtu.be/RFe6PCQiAWA
looks very boring, weapon & shooting things feelings looks really bad. Really I prefer to play TF2 or Dirty Bomb instead of Overwatch... probably Dirty Bomb will fail for the same reason as arena fps games.

There is no big hype for any arena fps game. Doom 4 will got probably earlier release. Q5 probably not in development. But omg its id, its zenimax and stuff. so who cares.

I hate clunky movement too, and Reflex feels much better than UT. But still UT will probably gather more audience.

CSGO is quite fun but 1.6. was better and impossible to play alone in long term.

Also games like Overwatch cant be compared to Quake in any way.

I forgot that Bleszinski is making his own game too http://bosskey.com/

Oh, I didn't know it's F2P. Guess that shows how much I was into it. lol

I have played TF2, a few years ago. But it wasn't competitive. Just pubs with lots of people. It gets boring being a decent spy, after a while. No one spy checks as Pyro or anything else, really. And spy was my favorite class. Speaking of class, reborn has classes, too, I guess. blah.

You're right. UT will get more players just on the back of their franchise, alone. No matter how bad it ends up being.

Thanks for the video. I'm gonna check it out. Yay for can't sleep at 3:30 in the morning.

edit: I really like the spectator abilities. Being able to 3rd person cam at teles, high vantage points, lots of places. That was interesting. Seems like there's lotsa options when speccing.

TF2 got much bigger competitive scene than ql or cod on pc ;)

http://etf2l.org/
and some sort of matchmaking http://rc.tf2center.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5USIDoZleAk and compare it to overwatch ;)

go to sleep mate, there is no game to play hehe :P

For a long while, QL comp. scene had much more money than TF2 despite being 10, 20 or however many times smaller though.

maybe

but for me its count which game is more alive in general, im casual, so I want bigger playerbase.

maybe... And maybe not. Casual or not, the world wouldn't be the same without

C O O L L E R
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I have recently played cod ghost on ps4 and its always around 3k ppl online in tdm so with other modes i belive its 5k :p.

Characters with wallhack skill are disturbing.

It's the future.

Embrace cheaters, they are better than you.

I highly doubt you can just leave it on all the time. =)

I wonder what that class will be sacrificing for such an ability, though.

Maybe they won't be able to move or something.

Maybe like:

X-ray: Channeled. Gives the user the ability to see enemies through walls for up to 8 seconds. Immobilizes the user. Channel may be cancelled at any time. (5 Minute cooldown)

as if it really matters..

you have characters that can teleport or become invulnerable, giant shields, giant dragons attacking through walls

looks fun, even if i have no idea how they'll manage to balance classes

lol, are you all fkin blind because its Blizzard?

Blizzard:
1. choose popular genre
2. copy & change
3. dumb it down
4. ??
5. profit

Overwatch is probably made from cancelled Titan and looks like f2p game like Crossfire :<

except SC2... but still SC:BW was much harder.

except SC2?
Going from selecting up to 12 or 16 units to SELECT ALL MOVE IT RIGHT HERE?

SC2 is still one of hardest games, CURRENTLY.

But SC: BW >>>>>>> SC2, any day.

I said it, already.

You said it was much harder, not much better.

ok, both, harder and better.

Faster & stronger.

oh god wallhack ability, hnnnnnnnnngh

"hnnnnnngh"? You mean like this: http://www.esreality.com/post/2629783/re-z-li...pid2629783 ?

Shit, there is a hook !

Really sexy trailer. I'm not so sure about the gameplay.

If its f2p or cheap I will probably play it a bit with friends like I do with TF2. I just wish those bitches liked quake

We can't really tell yet about the gameplay. At least, not from a scripted 'battle' that helps introduce the game.

I've been away from bliz for almost 3 years. Maybe this could bring me back home to mama blizzard. <3

I dont usually like class based games and a lot of the elements shown are typically things I dont like. But if its affordable then I will still enjoy it for <10 hours or something I guess.

It fits in the same catagory as stuff like loadout, tf2, dirty bomb. Fun games, wouldnt play for many hours unless friends keep inviting me to play.

Great news for all the TF2 players worldwide!

do i get this after 150 wins?

Meh, Blizzard has stopped being anything but an empty brand name with nothing much good behind it a long time ago.

And of course... mandatory Bobby Kotick

hmmm looks fucking messy

i like the graphics, looks cool

but the gameplay, looks too random and messy to me

i like the simplicity of quake better. Ofc it's only the 1st trailer but still, quake is still the king and will stay for ever :D (also reflex <3)

I guess overwatch won't take much skill to play, will be more a strategical fps with a lot of team work, basically LoL but in 1st person. I'm not a fan of this kind of fps, i prefer fps that involve A LOT of personal skill... like quake :) (and maybe to some extent CS)

imo TF2 looks much better than overwatch.

i'm not really a fan of tf2 either. I still like the graphics a lot but i think it's just a dumbed down version of team fortress classic.

anyway i'm not particularly a fan of "objective fps", except CS and RTCW and enemy territory. I like when it involves mainly individual skills over "strategy" or anything like that.

Dirty Bomb is quite fun ;)

never tried it, but i believe you ^^

maybe if i tried i wouldve liked it dunno :D

but you know, quake forever <3 (and reflex <3) :D

btw you ordered abyssus 2014 right ?

did you get it already ?

how is it so far ?

got Abyssus 2014.

its fkin amazing! and the lod isnt high on my pad <3

seems to be perfect mouse for me.

same :)

Not sure why some people are being overly harsh with it, it looks like it could be a fun game with cool concepts.

I like the fact it's not going to be a simple and straight shooter like CoD/BF and it's going to focus on having a lot of playtime.
I can't be the only one who gets annoyed by roundbased games where you have to wait for a while everytime you die.

I also like the fact they didn't go for over realistic graphics, looks neat and clean unlike CS:GO on which it's difficult to spot an enemy in certain spots at first glance.

We will have to wait and see how it plays out but I'm looking forward to this.

6v6 is too many in my opinion though. That's the one downside for me so far.

yep well, i didn't try the game so can't say yet

i have to try the game myself or maybe watch some streams with good players to make a solid opinion about it.

but so far i can only base my opinion on a random trailer and some screenshots :)

True. Here, it's difficult to see anything.

I like you. You are a sensible person.

It's not quake.

6v6 is needed because of the class structure - you can't have a rock > paper > scissors game without that many players per team. In fact, chances are half the classes will be underutilized in 6v6 too.

Like TF2, these sorts of games are fundementally broken, you can only expect them to work in a set metagame. None of the freedom you have in deathmatch FPS.

Looks very casual and random.


I also expect all quakers to pick widowmaker cause of grapple and railg... sniper.

Fucking camper, shitnoob, l2p faggot, hacking scum, blizz nerf, ur ded nigguh!!!11!1
> no chat ingame
> clicks "Well played" gesture

Blizzard saves the world.

Looks kinda fun

FFS people its Blizzard! Imho ALL of their games are awesome and they made an FPS! Give them a chance!

FPS games popularity are declining. I am happy Blizzard joined. What about big bucks tournaments just like astz said. Bring them on!

CoD is doing pretty well.

*ahem* *ahem* cs:go *aheM*

not on pc.

People don't care anymore.

You forgot, that meanwhile, half of the original crew left the company. The better half.

It's 2014. WAKE UP

its not old good blizzard anymore.

yo guys dis WoW expansion looks 2sik!

Kinda looks like it will be WoW arena/battlegrounds but with some FPS elements to it but still most focus on using different abilities.

nice gfx though

curious to see how they do matchmaking, competitive features, community features, etc.

Boring shit for the pleb, LoL in FPS genre.

Thank god for Reflex.

They saw firefall fail, canceled titan, and turned it into this tf2 clone with somehow even more skilless bullshit

technically titan is in fact Overwatch but Blizzard doesnt want people to know...

Too much intricate stuff going on on the battlefield.

Dat ass though@widowmaker

https://imgur.com/oomyzMS

That was not hard to masturbate to twice

I'm trying Hanzo for my first game, but i'm kind of in love with TORBJÖRN.

Any unrealistic fps game with actual esports potential is good for us. Plus if you dont like it nor other similar games then just dont play them, no need for criticizing them especially if it is only because you just dont, but be warned that esports as a whole is on its historical peak by far and that quake-only people are missing it out.

I havent watched any gameplay footage but the description is good enough to try the game out: it has a sniper class with a grappling hook.

the sniper class also has a wallhack. seems like p3l3 had a say in this.

A Team Fortress 2 clone, with less original characters and a lot of pumped boobs bitches.

Looks fun, tough. Many abilities are intriguing.

it's a blizzard game. it WILL get played A LOT, even if it's shit (proof: diablo3).

I'll buy that and play the fuck out of it from the trailer and the gameplay insights. Looks fun :)

oo yeeeah... signed up for the beta. ^^

wanna charge ppl into the wall like a true power house.

tracer looks like cypher

surprise, surprise.. this is not quake, let's bitch about it!
..and when a game is similar to quake, we'll bitch about it anyway

(not to mention we bitch about even actual quake)

who bitch about it not being qwek?

not all things are great amazing originality that hardened Quakers can't understand. Some of the things are actually imbalanced, boring and shallow. Many of those things happen to use the same rock > paper > scissors recipe that gets repetitive after 10 hours of play. You understand that, right?

Looks awesome. U bitches need to unclog ur retard reserves and get on the Overwatch train! CHOO CHOOO!!

World of team legends of fortress

World of team legends of fortress 2004: Arena

http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/...1363190994

its nothing like tf2. it the total clone of supermnc, the famous game that not even valve could have advertise enough to keep alive. good luck to blizzard doing the same mistake.
even the ape character looks the same. also this retarded japanese anime hairstyle plus the pixar-ish trailer makes me think they just want a children game for the 10-12 year old kids.

Anyone got into BETA? Its live now.

dahang and stermy recieved ones, dunno about other quake ppl.
looks kinda casually boring and slow :/ but then again, after quake - what else is not..

Its nothing like quake ofc. Would play it just for fun only.

ye
but then.. is it possible to have fun and not enjoy the gameplay at the same time?
like right now i dont see myself commiting a lot of time to play ow even if it was money driven and supported game with lans and recognition from esports simply cause playing process most likely will feel dull for me. On another hand i see myself playing quake cause even running around without ppl in game feels soothing

Stermy was playing with hal, winz, tox and 2gd last night.

yup
http://esreality.com/post/2780573/2gd-tox-ste...overwatch/

It is very boring to me. It is almost nothing like an FPS except a first-person view and there are guns. Truly, it is a first-person MOBA. Skill isn't a real factor. The hitboxes are enormous, so if you're looking toward your target, you're hitting it. Guns are about 20% of the screen. Mouse acceleration is built into the game as of now. That was the first thing I noticed. Overwatch was exactly what I thought it would be, a game I never want to play again.

It was fun to watch yesterday how the biggest OW streamers (summit1g 30.000+ viewers) team was owned by Dahang, Slasher and co. They were afraid of the the Quake "pros" as fuck and chickened out after a couple of rounds. :))))

It was even more hilarious because summit shit talked Quake and still got rekt

How is it possible to talk shit about Quake?
Same thing with pope.

Actually, he said his own team was going to get destroyed (and simply joked that quake had been dead for a long time).

You got a vod link to that?

http://www.twitch.tv/summit1g/v/22870403

Starts around 04:12:00

"Dahang just joined we gonna get fucking slaughtered" :)

"Quake's been dead for a ten years, how do they still know each other?"
rofl

:DDD

Got hot turded on their chests <3~~~~

That was entertaining.

I am glad Blizzard didnt snub all the Quake players and most got access, but im still salty as fuck that this was a farce in being random invites.

Same here! Salt level is too damn high. Its a beta for friends and streamers only. :(

Dirty Bombs + TF2 in a blender = Overwatch