http://esreality.com/post/2669926/reflex-kick...pid2670730

sry, need more [ + ] :P

I'm in a generous mood, but I don't want to make you feel special so I'm giving pluses for every post in this thread :9

poor hitsu :`c

15 U.S. dollars =
49,5825152 Polish zloty =
~19,83300608 beers
I hope it's worth it.

You need to make up your mind on dots and commas.
Hint:
47.34546 USD = 50,74053 PLN

he was consistent in local denomination ^^

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google "15 USD in beers"

There's some failed indiegogo link D:

15$ = cheap as fuck

I was going to give 80 AUD with kickstarter

15 U.S. dollars =
98,58 Norwegian kroner =
2-3 beers (retail) OR
1-2 beers (out)

yup, worth it

Buy 3, give it away \o/

ouch.

in Poland 10-15 beers :D

Yeah? Well, at least we have colder weather and shorter summers than you!

and... you think thats better?


im only jelous that you can pray to Odin :P

Hey, you can pray to Odin if you want. He'll just fuck you up for not believing in him!

:D Odin is for the winners.

when vikings turned to christianity they started loosing everything, true story ;)

You don't? :O

Winter > all

Im forced to pray to our own pagan slav gods ;d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Slavic_mythological_figures

That's definitely better.

hmmmmmm, this could be a valid reason for me to move to Poland.
Damn drinking is cheap there.

Bring your netcode! Would love to see it :D

He'll teach you some new codes all night long ;)

not gonna happen, they paying here really little :D

I do most work through internet anyway, people don't have to know where I'm at ;).

ok, so... Poland is cool country.

no muslims, no tolerance, beautiful girls, rather cheap (but some products are more expensive), slav squats everywhere, everybody complain about everything, stupid gov, etc. :D

enjoy your stay ;]

PS. come and teach me coding ;)

beautiful girls, rather cheap

damn straight.

hahaha :D

How much in 'cipki'?

I'm not sure if you could get any for that much... But "wpierdol" is something you can get in unlimited amount : )

19 beers and still no cipa? Damn, resistance is strong in Poland.

I thought about 15 USD. Traiding 19 beers could be effective.

cipki after 19 beers?

like fucking dead body ;)

Split beers for more targets \o/

That sounded like weird's currency.

yes im totally gonna pay when i can lay cpm for free.

Im not paying 15 USD for a textureless CPM3a, hope they got something more to show..

thank the lord

particle effects
stake gun
SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET SON!

For me they don't have to add textures EVER!

You're not just paying for cpm3a, you're mainly paying to support the development efforts. Also, there will probably be patches to add in textures during the early access phase.

Yes but he still has a point. Steam Early Access is about seeing potential in a game, and imo for the very most people nice screenshots or videos are more convincing than a list of planned features, which is quite abstract to "outsiders" of the arena fps scene.

haha textures...

you wouldn't play with the textures on anyway you big numpty

http://esreality.com/post/2669926/reflex-kick...pid2673732

will buy...

Waiting a couple more paychex so I can gif dem de moneys!!!

not gonna buy until final product. the early access system has failed me often enough

i was sure this game comes out as f2p or it just payment for earlier access ?

they never said anything about f2p. Always were talking about b2p.

i hate f2p model.

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if you so like to part with money(b2p) so buy this game for me

15$ is cheap as fuck.
I hate f2p with skins, premium model, subscriptions etc shit.

b2p and play forever is best model for me.

and people are spending more money for f2p games than b2p.

its looks like you dont even know why you hate f2p. All this things like "skins, premium model, subscriptions etc shit." its a good things.

lol... no.
these 'features' are good because people are fucking stupid.

I know that makes a good job for a playerbase etc. But I would prefer to play without it, like in the past.

Just Buy a game and play.

you must sell this information and it makes you rich

common sense is not that easy to sell instead of ez skins ez money bullcrap.

but you have no clue about common sense if you hate things like skins.

you have no clue lolololol

you have no clue lolololol

you have no clue lolololol

you eat much glue lolololol

Way to ruin a most promising chain. :/

Way to ruin a most promising chain. :/

Way to chain a most promising ruin. :/

I dont have a preference, but what makes f2p bad and b2p good?

As far as I can see it

F2P:
- maybe more players
- maybe more cheaters
- possibility for pay2win (but not with reflex)
- almost certainly will have a cosmetic store or something
- its mothafuckin free

B2P:
- maybe less people trying it out
- maybe less cheaters
- B2P games are less likely to have stores but many still do (like reflex)
- its not mothafuckin free

There doesnt seem to be a clear winner

I have a hard time convincing people to try out Quake as it is. Add a paywall on top of that and I'm pretty sure it'll become impossible, so F2P is the clear winner here, imo.

and they are stuck playing FFA, right?

subscription in QL was for long time too expensive for such old game. f2p in QL could be much better.

For few subscriptions I could buy whole game forever in the past.

"Free-to-play" is a business model term which refers to being able to play some of the content for free. When people say F2P they don't mean totally free.

EDIT: read your following comments nvm, don't be so misleading. :(

Ditch those poor losers.

it's my _preference_

f2p is not mothafuckin free. I know lot people who spent much more money for f2p game like LoL then some b2p game. And mostly if you want to play you need to pay (only dota2 and csgo is really free)

and you are talking about how the situation looks like now. But don't you see this is only because most people are just stupid? Look at it without any effect on playerbase.

if more people will prefer b2p model there will be no any adventage of f2p model.

I like b2p model in general. Buying a game and dont care about anything else.

and wtf skins, its really funny that its worth anyhing, really this world is far away from common sense.

CS:GO is not free.

oh, I forgot.
But it could be even free, cost is about 5-10 EUR, almost free for me.

and the 15$ for reflex are what? :)

almost free ;p

f2p is not mothafuckin free. I know lot people who spent much more money for f2p game like LoL then some b2p game. And mostly if you want to play you need to pay (only dota2 and csgo is really free)

It is free. Just because some people you know have paid for cosmetics and stuff doesnt mean its not free. If they lock loads of stuff behind a paywall like LoL then I agree its bad, but that wouldnt be an issue for something like reflex.

I play lots of F2P games and never spend any money on them. I played like 200 hours of Rift completely for free. Planetside 2, Fistful of frags, loadout, tf2, dota 2, tribes, smite, lotro and loads more. Never a dime spent and I probably wouldnt have played lots of them if not for them being free.

If its free2play where they have locked 80% of the game behind microtransactions then I see your point. But if its a free game with cosmetics or other buyable features that dont change core gameplay then I dont see why its a problem.

I'm perfectly happy to pay for reflex. I already donated to them months ago and was prepared to give near $100 for them on KS. But if it was free I wouldnt be complaining. I could convince all my friends to play it too which wont be possible with it being $15

I think f2p is good if done well and same for b2p. Shitty f2p is bad though. LoL did it terribly.

Free games are only from valve. And TF2 wasn't free at start.

I played many f2p games but never spend money there. ALSO I never played them much, because there was always a moment when I feel that Im forced to pay.

try WoT, War Thunder etc. etc. There is many games that you pay to unlock smth, not for cosmetics.

Some games can't do it only by cosmetics.

Then isnt it more of an issue of a bad f2p model being bad rather than f2p in general? If reflex was planning to implement a good f2p model like dota 2 would you still have a problem with it?

They can't do it like dota 2 because in that way the devs will not earn any money, lol. Reflex is not aiming to 800k playerbase...

I dont like dota 2 f2p model, they should make a classic theme first with classic skins and able me to turn off all that things that I dont want to see.

cosmatics are annoying for me.

I'm not suggesting they do that. I just didnt understand your problem with f2p but now I think I understand. As far as I am concerned, if its a good f2p model, like many games have, its not an issue for me. In fact its a bonus because I can get friends and colleagues to try the game out and I can save all my dollahs fo mcdonalds

Cosmetics bug me too, but if they help the game I am fine with it. They dont bug me so much in dota 2 but they really got on my nerves in tf2.

b2p games should have trial versions.

and most f2p games have pay2win model.

Cosmetics - too many morons care about it. Spamming, smurfing acc, loosing matches on purpose and stuff... communitys of such games are really bad.

What about LoL, lol.

sux dix

if you must spend money for f2p game its not f2p game. But if you like to spend money for f2p game its not f2p game its good f2p game.

So, looks like you dont like only subscription and i am dont like it too. But i am also dont like to pay for something that i dont need. Like if you buy the game, play it for few hours and realize that you wont play it anymore because its borring. But yeah, you cant sell back...b2p model works perfectly...for devs...

Maybe this example is too perfect but guess i played only one f2p game - PathOfExile. I tryed PoE i like it and now i wont have D3 even for free.

Is it said anywhere that reflux won't have DLC?

The kickstarter says there will be cosmetics. With that said, do you hate reflux now? :P

I think there will be no dlc.

depends if I will be able to disable cosmetics :P

Do you have to pay now to get the preorder or can you buy it when the early access is released aswell? (Just curious, gonna preorder either way)

I dont think you can pay now can you?

As far as I know you just have to wait for it to hit early access

Oh, doh! =)

You should already have it. They should give it to you for free. You should be testing it and telling them the changes necessary to make it into quake 5. People take pictures of you in public for plusses. People listen to you.

You are not abusing your power.

Shame on you.

and he should give bad ideas to developers cause he's a working on reborn with 2gd

So is this out yet or was this a secret?

http://i.imgur.com/vNGiUl9.jpg

gief

dun have it.

Someone added a non-steam game to their library perhaps? Idk.

In-Game means it's a steam game. If you add a non-steam game it shows In Non-Steam Game.

Could be this http://store.steampowered.com/app/281860/ or a photoshop though.

Cant wait! Time to dust off pc and pwn!

No one streaming the steam version? Would like to see the new changes etc

does kickstarter let you see who offered to pay what? Would totally take that 9000 aud from those 3 guys

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"Early access will be available soon -- here is what you need to know before it hits.

So there's been a bit of hype surrounding Reflex Early Access. Yes, it's hitting soon -- we've just got to wait for Valve to approve it.

You'll be able to grab yourself a copy a play immediately but before you do, you should be aware of what you're paying for.

When we say Early Access, we mean it. The game is playable but still completely unpolished and you won't see any huge difference between the Early Access build and what you've seen in the trailer/streams.

We don't have all the modes. The weapons are not final. The UI is ugly and basic. The editors don't support even half of the features we have planned for them. A lot of the sounds are pretty crappy. Most of the art is missing. We don't have matchmaking. We don't have bots.

In short, the game is going to be rough. Game development is a slow process, especially for a small, unfunded indie team. Reflex is not competition ready and won't be for a while yet. It's not ready to support a large scene.

For now, it's fun. It's playable. You can build maps. You can watch replays.

But it is a long way from finished.

You have been warned ;)

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http://www.reddit.com/r/reflex/comments/2l4jb...e_is_what/

We dont care,we wanna play!<3<3