worst: ms 4.0
best: mitsumi ball mice

mitsumi <3

Worst: Razer Abyssus

Best: mx518, but I love my current wmo as well

I never understood how people could like the IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0...first of all the size its way too big and feels way too clunky... and second of all the build quality is extremely poor it almost feels as though it has been glued together.

Needless to say I always felt back in the day that the IntelliMouse Optical and Wheel Mouse Optical were far superior in every aspect to the Explorer.

worst g9x

best wmo/mico

mico - are you sure? :o

Worst: SteelSeries Ikari
Best: SteelSeries Kana, although the cable starts to break down already (maybe 6 months of use).

Really enjoy the kana as well. Though I hope the person who designed the extra large buttons on a smaller mouse was fired.

worst: g9, optical mouseman
semi: mx1000/kinzu/wmo
best: g5 and ms 3.0

maybe some of them have better or worse sensor/hardware but my experience and feel say this.

And btw, why do you get so many mouses? I've had 4 optical/laser mouses total, where I only purchased 2 of them.

best: DA and kinzu v2!(I can live with the accel tripping sometimes :))

worst: logitech g500 and razer imperator

I bought a variety of mice to see which ones I like and which ones I don't... atm I am using a Logitech M100 and although the sensor is fairly poor I really like the shape. Soon the Logitech G100s will be released and this is just like the M100 but with a gaming grade optical sensor... The Logitech G1 is my single favorite mouse followed by Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1a.

Over the past few years I've had: mx518, g5, g500, DA, DA3.5g BE and EC2 Evo

Worst: g500, thing tracked like ass on my cloth pads, was better on 9HD but still had some weird accel

Best: mx518 and DA3.5g BE, both track awesome, I'm on my second DA now, I only got a 2nd because I wanted a fresh one

Good mouse I hated: EC2 Evo, skipped on the colored part of my Goliathus Speed and the wheel was wobbly, probably my favorite shape and size out of all the mice I've tried though, basically a slightly smaller/lighter DA type shape

I'll probably end up trying a g400 next or maybe give the EC2 another try on a fresh all black pad

The coloured problem is very well known with that zowie, why not get a new mat? Cheap solution.

probably stupid DPI settings your part. Should track on prety much anything. :P

worst: g9x. could not handle the ridiculously high lift-off distance, but maybe the one I had was defective

best: zowie FK. only had it for 2 days and loving it, already hitting great accuracies for my standards.

I've also had a MX518 and then G400 which I quite like, but it's a bit too big and heavy for my taste

Best: Mx300, Razer Abyssus, WMO 1.1a
Worst: Had only one bad mouse, kinzu v2. Absolutely useless in every way.

currently own a razer death adder 3.5 G, I was in an electronics market and tried out several mice, that mouse just fit better to my hand than all the others lying around there several other razers, logitech g9, have a quite big hand with thin fingers :-)

Before I used G400 (somehow the left clickbutton went defunct, randomly had delays to press it down mechanically, got a refund on amazon), MX518, MX300, Razer Boomslang, Wingman Gaming Mouse ...
so far the death adder is the best, I just hope the razer mouse keeps working, still have a MX518 and MX300 lying around here, working perfectly ... but have bad memories with the boomslang, scroll wheel squeeked, clickbutton didn't work properly, but i just hope that was because this was because it was the first mouse produced by razer ... but I don't know several peeps around here report that their razer mice malfunction after a while, I don't what is so hard about producing mice, because when you look at the products of microsoft and logitech, they don't seem to have these kind of problems, their products work and work and work ... just hope for the best for my razer

I use razer imperator for like 2 years and still working as new. Also got lachesis still working.. atleast 4 years old.

good to hear

worst:

- microsoft habu (actually a bad version of the ms 3.0 and deathadder)
- razer copperhead (horrible shape, pretty average sensor, won't let me play at low sens because of skipping :/)
- logitech mx1000 (too big, too heavy, laser sensor)

average:

- razer krait (pretty okish shape, pretty decent sensor, cheap)
- logitech mx310 (pretty decent sensor, ok shape, cheap)
- steelseries kinzu v1 (very good shape, but too much hardware accel for my liking)
- steelseries kinzu v2 (very good shape, ok sensor)

best:

- razer diamondback (back in the day it was probably the best mouse you could get along with the mx510 and WMO/3.0)
- razer abyssus (good shape, good sensor, cheap)

God tier:

- zowie AM (out of all the mice that i got, the AM is the best one, it has excellent sensor, good shape, feels solid in your hands, and it's actually a very good looking mouse :D, currently using it, will never get back to my old abyssus :D)

All the notable mice I've used:
- Logitech Cordless Mouseman Wheel 2004ish
- Logitech M525 2008ish
- Deathadder 3.5G 2008-2011 around when I got competitive
- G500 2011
- G700 2011-2013
- G400s 2 weeks ago-now

Worst: G500, after a while the cord would disconnect over a slight bend, sensor position was crap compared to the DA, weights made it back heavy, no weights made it front heavy, bad tracking coming off DA 3.5G

Honorable mention: G700, how the hell do you even hold this thing

Best: G400s. I only got it since they were out of the old G400 at Best Buy. I was skeptical at first but it's perfect, really the best mouse I've had since my DA. Tracks and moves perfectly on a cloth pad.

Opinions on everything else:

First Logitech: Used it when I was 10 playing Gunz, all I know is that it had a single thumb button and I thought that was fucking revolutionary.

Second Logitech: Mostly played CS:S and S4L with it. Wasn't picky enough to have any problems with it.

DA 3.5G: Still wasn't picky with it, though from what I remember tracking was flawless on a shitty cloth pad. Palmed it at 3500 dpi, best fit for my hand out of all the mice I've owned. Stopped working after 3 years :(

G700: I just wanted a wireless mouse since my G500 died so fast. Ended up using it for 2 years since I was too poor to afford anything else. I actually found all the extra buttons useful since I played LoL/DotA/SC2 a lot with it. After really getting into Quake though I realized it has the shittiest ergonomic design ever, even moreso after I stopped palming my mice.

Worst: Anything by Razer or SteelSeries

Best: Old Microsoft mice and Logitech MX300/MX310/MX518/G400

Worst: Anything by Razer or SteelSeries

Best: Old Microsoft mice and Logitech MX300/MX310/MX518/G400


Would especially emphasize IE 3.0, wmo, g400 (bestest from my point of view)

and Razer Diamondback (worst pile of CUNT SHIT)

Boomslang 2000
mx510/518

Best: G5, G7

Indifferent: RAT7, G9,

Worst: The mice HP delivers with the 8300 Elite. Those suckers skip on any surface.

worst: MS sidewinder (yup l0l som1 actually bought that)
best: ime 3.0, still looking for a good replacement for this so someone let me know if there's one out there w/ a better sensor and good grip/etc

best and worst??: abyssus, when this mouse didn't jitter, it was probably the best mouse Ive had.

worst:
microsoft basic optical mouse 1.0
dell mouse etc
logitech g5
logitech g700

best:
zowie ec1 evo
wmo 1.1
abyssus
roccat savu
zowie fk

always got mx/g series.

once i tried the R2 mark II :(

Best: WMO / MX310 (maybe i'm just being nostalgic?)
Worst: Kinzu

worst: steelseries xai

best: a4tech v-track f7

sensor difference is huge in these!

is this some kind of joke? or is that pixart in f7 as good as in kana?

I had a 710mk with "vtrack" pixart sensor, had low max speed, felt laggy and had crazy lift off bugs.

well I've been using x7 series for about 6 years now, and I didn't feel low/max speed or lag. There is some lift off bug that rarely happens (2%) and I don't care that much. But its smooth tracking all in all

ehelo))

Best: wmo 1.1, mx518/g400, abyssus (with qualifications)
Mid: intelli 1.1, ie3.0, g9x
Utter shit: diamondback

Best: Razer Salomsa (broke <2 weeks ago)

Now back to Logitech 3-Button BALLmouse. No wheel. Ball inside.
Best shape ever.
I got that one in the middle: .
http://www.tcocd.de/Pictures/Peripheral/Logitech/ms35.shtml

<:)

i once had a a4tech imac ball mouse ps2, i glued bottom and top together with a strong glue to get a stable mouse >8-D

Best: WMO!
Mid: mx518, diamondback, mico(awesome for SC worst for QL)
worst: kinzu!

best: mx518, DA and wmo, in order of appearance

best mx518 first gen
worst g9x (owned it for 3 days..)

Best to worst:

G100s
Kana, matte black
WMO
Kana, glossy white
Abyssus
MX518
Krait (first release)
Kinzu V1
Kinzu V2
MS IME 4.0
Logitech Basic Optical (first release after ball mice)
G5
TtEsports Black
Microsoft Basic Optical
$5 ball mouse in circa '90s
Lachesis

I gave away my G5, Black and Lachesis. I even paid the shipping on the Black and Lachesis. My IME 4.0 was comfy as fuck for my hand but shit sensor and broke quickly.

Tje only mouse I've ever owned is a Lachesis that I was given years ago and I've seen plenty of bad reviews but I never got WHAT is so bad about it and I have no previous experience so I really can't tell. Only thing I know is that the sensor is bugged and I actually sometimes find my crosshir doing 180°s for no reason (happens like once in 5 hours) but I'd like to know if there are any other flaws (heard of the lift-off problem but that really doesn' bother me) that I might not have noticed since I am so used to it.

I am not gonna keep it anyway, just taking my time to buy the right one

The shape is kinda specific. I needed few weeks to get used to, but once I did the mouse is pretty good.

I don't know, I bought a Deathadder 1-2 months ago and in like five days I was hitting +6-7% lg and I now realise that the LOD was pretty much non-existent.

What mouse were you using previously?

well.. the esr classic: mwo. Now I am using razer imperator(the first edition) and it's not bad mouse at all.

Interesting, since you've used the kinzu v2 and wmo both, how would you compare the sensors? Like how does the kinzu v2 behave when it reaches the ~1.8 m/s ?

When you hit high speed with the WMO you get neg. accel, but when you hit high speed with the Kinzu V2 you get malfunction (cursor stops, or shoot up/down without lateral movement). I found the WMO much more usable.

I keep my Kinzu V2 at my office as a work mouse.

So the g100s is way better than the wmo? Did you take out the extra weight inside? I'm deciding between g100s and the fk atm.

best: mx510
worst: all other

Worst: Razer Lachesis
Best: Logitech G400

BEST- LOGITECH MX518/G5/G500


WORST- RAZER OROCHI. Such a piece of shit.

Best:
WMO
Razer Abyssus (Mouse 2 broke after 8 months and the sensor would go haywire sometimes. However, I loved the shape and it worked the majority of the time)
G400
MX518
CM Spawn (Shape is awkward tho)


Worst:
Kinzu
Xai
Roccat Kova

lil bit offtopic, but the spawn has a new firmware, #102. It supposedly fixes the VOIP problems where the cpu load can max out.

worst: Logitech Dual Optical
2nd best (used since came out): IE3
best: zowie ec1

best:
wmo
mx518

worst:
never needed to buy any other mice, sup sons? dat skill aint from yo mouse, it from yo hand. naw'meen?

best: mx500, ime3.0, wmo

worst: diamondback(shape was so bad i never really got to know the sensor)

dell, logitech/ms ball mice, office mice etc. no reason to discuss since sensors skip like ballmouse

best - razer salmosa mini

worst - not really had a bad mouse, why would i buy a shit one?

worst: g500
best: wingman/mx500/g400

best wmo
worst copperhead

best: zowie ec2 evo
worst: none

best: logitech g100s

indifferent: wmo

worst: razer db

worst: logitech g5

average: logitech mx500, logitech dualoptical

best: razer abyssus, ie 3.0, logitech g400 (only tried it for a few days)

G5 for CSS one of the best mouse

why

for any other game wasnt good enought but in CSS i was blamed for aimbooting, i was just playing ffa public with sniper and eagle, sensitivity 3, 400 dpi with accelfix, i was hiting everything with flickshots

do it on lan

actually i was playing on lan with same settings with mix team in tourney and own same way

standard :)

best: logitech
worst: razer

Best: MX500, IMO 1.1
Worst: Kinzu V2 Pro, MS Habu

Best: IE 3.0 and WMO 1.1a
Worst: IE 4.0

worst: g9
best: ms ie 3.0

Best:
Korean Logitech g100
Mid:
WMO
TT Azures
Worst:
Microsoft Basic Optical mouse(Seriously the worst mouse ever. I gamed with it exclusively for about 3 or 4 years)

Best: logitech pilot optical mouse
worst: logitech pilot optical mouse

:D

Best: WMO
Worst: Some mouse that had no brand (the box just simply said: MOUSE).

Never owned anything expensive.

Worst (Actually still good mice, but when I think back and compare it to my current favorite, I like them the least) :
MS IntelliMouseOptical (when I flicked the it quickly it would malfunction), Razer Boomslang (odd shape - who needs thousands and thousands of dpi - I was little and dumb, because I thought that more dpi would make me a better player, and I had to return it, because it had a manufacturing failure), G400 (bad manufacturing quality, except that rock solid)
Bad: MS Explorer (I thought it was too big at that time)
Okay: Mx510, Mx518 (Only bad thing is angle snapping)
Good: Roccat Kova (my favorite mouse until I got the Kana)
Best: SteelSeries Kana (my current and now favorite mouse)

What makes you dislike g400 so much more than mx518?

It's a very subjective statement, It's pretty much only the manufacturing quality (the ultra-thin cable, but not only the cable, if you open the mouse you will see some parts who are poorly designed and will brake easily). Although I understand the reasoning behind planned obsolescence, and if it works for them, well that's just how things work, I nonetheless don't want to support this absurd capitalist cancer shit (exaggeratedly speaking).

I also realized after using the Roccat Kova, that the mx500-series is a little bit too big for me and, that I like tinier mice better.

For completeness sake:
went back to g400 now and replaced cord with kana cord, after I lost it and broke the kana. Actually the g400 feels awesome again - Im such an indecisive tard, lol. Used it for too long, maybe my hand adapted to the shape, like an ivy grows around a house.

worst: kinzu v2 pro, I really liked it but the accel and fail sensor pissed me off.

Best: Sensei, Kana and Mx518

Best to worse for Quake:

wmo (had 5 or 6 wmo's since 2000 mouse buttons stopped working on all of them)
ms 3.0
mx510
g9x
xai
kinzu v1


WMO and 3.0 are way above the rest and the 3.0 i rank lower due to personal preference on the size/design. I always wanted a WMO with sidebuttons though. MX510 was solid but slightly big. I just didn't get as good mouse feel as with the 3.0 (or wmo).

I like the shape of the G9X but it always felt disconnected somehow. Tried everything but I just can't get it right with MarkC/Drivers/whatever. Using this mouse right now and i kind off lost the joy of playing quake with this mouse.

Xai skipped heavily on my QCK but felt good in terms of quality, shape, size etc.
Kinzu v1 felt horrible and still does

Edit: i'd like to try something new and have a hard time choosing between the kana, zowie am and fk - anyone using these on a QCK? Anything close to the WMO but with sidebuttons would be very interesting

[+]
Zowie AM
Razer Deathadder 3.5G
Razer Salmosa
Microsoft WMO 1.1

Non-gaming mice I've had which were okay:
Microsoft Optical Mouse Blue
Logitech LS1

[-]
Logitech MX518 - chord problems after 2 months. I took the mouse apart and relocated the chord a few mm down in order to protect the lesion. After another 2 months repeated procedure. A week after that I got a whole new usb cable for it. Another 6 months down I bought a Salmosa and then deathadder, so there.

chord chord

Also didn't enjoy the shape because of the thumb-ridge and the mouse drivers, as it seems to have affected my hand grip to what I believe is the "claw": while with the Salmosa it didn't matter as it has a much smaller shape and warranted a different handling approach, and with the DeathAdder as it is larger therefore the problem wouldn't arise, but with the Zowie AM which I received last week, I noticed that for the first few days during attempted flickshots or fast movement which requires lifting up the mouse and lowering again quickly, my little finger would get pinched between the mousepad and mouse. Took me like a day to take care of that, but still aftermatch of Logitech.

Sensor was nice and I enjoyed that mouse, and was even contemplating getting a g400, which was generally praised in profesional out-of-the-box reviews, despite me not playing on the mx518 for about 5 years now, but long-term user reviews still reported the same USB cable problems... years later, on a follow up model. So I was convinced to try ZOWIE instead.

The optical blue (with the crosshair logo on the transparent plastic at the bottom) is a wmo with an IME shell without side buttons. I quite like it.

Actually my wmo just broke (fucking chord) so I'll replace it with an optical blue while bst releases his mice (or gives me a beta test version in the mean time). Still, have to get another wmo to have the 'complete collection' once again.

Best: Wmo, even if i'm not totally satisfied by the shape, the plastic feets, and the chord;

Worst: Logitech M100, another old logitech which didn't even had a name ( great shape, still), and a 12 € Thrust mouse that had terrible feets but two nice side buttons that i still has nostalgia about.
Browsing has never been the same without them.

more chords over here

i had a bad feeling about that word, but my friend Google T. says chord can still be used for cord. Sort of.

the dictionary disagrees

ba dum tsshh

even Google T. puts cord as the more suitable choice, but chord is still understendable.

Best: Razer DeathAdder
Worst: Razer Lachesis

Looking forward to: Ninox Aurora

>The only mouse I've ever owned is a Lachesis that I was given years ago and I've seen plenty of bad reviews but I never got WHAT is so bad about it and I have no previous experience so I really can't tell. Only thing I know is that the sensor is bugged and I actually sometimes find my crosshir doing 180°s for no reason (happens like once in 5 hours) but I'd like to know if there are any other flaws (heard of the lift-off problem but that really doesn't bother me) that I might not have noticed since I am so used to it. 

I am not gonna keep it anyway, just taking my time to buy the right one

Salmosa is the worst, the amount of mouse correction on that thing is ridiculous. It's borderline unplayable

Best - WMO and Zowie Ec2 evo.
Worst - Abyssus (simply because of the shitty problematic sensor).

Best: mx300, wmo

Mid: HP ball mouse, mx500 (although couldn't use it left handed), abyssus (shape is just not as good as mx300 or wmo), G100 (mx300 profile is slightly lower and 1000dpi is annoying because mouse and trackpad have radically different sensitivities)

Worst: Logitech dual optical (quickly made my wrist start hurting. only mouse to ever do that)

Worst Mouse: Alienware TactX mouse (Branded Logitech mouse), Microsoft comfort mouse optical 3000

Best Mouse: Razer Deathadder

Worst: wacom tablet mouse
Best: DA 3.5 G

worst : microsoft sidewinder x8
best : g400 and da 3.5g

Best: wmo & Ninox Aurora (just received beta model last week)
Worst: everything else

Worst. Logitech MouseMan Dual Optical. that shape suits hulk maybe.

Best: Intellimouse Explorer 3.0. cause it's the best.

best: zowie-fk, wmo, deathadder 3.5g, g400, kinzu
worst: steelseries xai, g9x, razer mamba

Best-to-worst:

Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 (Been looking for a new one eversince) [Loved the shape, didn't need to adapt to it after using years of MX mice, very lightweight, perfect sensor+tracking, software wasn't bloated, sidebuttons (eventhough they felt cheap), coating and cable]

Logitech MX-510 [Close tie with the IME 3.0, especially after removing the internal weight, felt sturdy, great stable sensor, tracking was perfect, logitech service & warranty]

Logitech MX-518 v1 [After this mouse logitech went downhill quality-wise, first-gen mx-518 was good though, they introduced the DPI-steps, I never needed these features]

Logitech G400 [Overall great mouse but it has been built up with cheaper parts compared to older MX mice, also heavier than 518/510 and tacky cable, buttons & mousefeet, perfect sensor though]

Logitech G9 [Only fingergrip mouse I had, had great sensor, very customizable & accurate, hurted my hand after 1-2+ hours of use, very sturdy but the interchangeable covers gave it a squeeky feeling]

Don't bother with these:

Logitech G5v2
Logitech G5v1
Razer Imperator

Best:
Logitech G400
imo 1.1a
Zowie FK

Worst:
Steel Series Xai and Sensei
Razer Mamba
IME 3.0

Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0: can this mouse still be found in stores?

Don't think so, but there are lots of them on eBay.

worst: steelseries kinzu
best: wmo, DA 3.5, abyssus (in this order)

SUX: gigabye m7. abyssus
good: kinzu v2. gigabyte gm6880.
okish: mx518

SUX: gigabye m7. abyssus
good: kinzu v2. gigabyte gm6880.
okish: mx518


whats wrong with the g9x besides the big lod someone mentioned?

best: mx300 <3
worst: Roccat Kone

best: mx300 <3
worst: Roccat Kone
favourite: Razer DA + tok.le :-[[

Alborz.cfg does its job 8 (

Touché =(

Best: Steelseries Sensei
Worst: Apple Magic Mouse

best: g9x (blah blah accel blah shit mouse blah. fantastic shape for me)

very good but not for me: zowie fk (low lod, that's that shit i don't like :\ )

worst: intellimouse explorer 4 (bought it because the ime 3 i had was so awesome... night and day. still hurts thinking about this mouse)

Best: Razer Abyssus
Worst: mx510, mx518 : both lasted only about 5 months and both died because of the same USB problem

Now I'm using Genius XScroll which is by far the WORST OF ALL