My title would be: Why Quake changed me forever.

yeah, Quake was for sure a milestone in gaming:
- client/server model over TCP/IP (with added clientside prediction in QW) which became standard for Internet multiplayer
- first "true" 3D fps game pushing the graphical revolution with OpenGL/3dfx support
- it was fully moddable allowing for total conversions like Quake Rally and spawning gems like CTF, Team Fortress and Navy Seals (the earliest prototype for CS). it even has an internal programming language with a bytecode interpreter (QuakeC)
- it spawned pro-gaming on the PC

even the chaotic design is unique with elements of Lovecraft mythos, gothic and industrial.. too bad they threw it all away and focused more on that shitty ass generic BASE theme from Quake2 onwards.

and this was the undoing of the Quake series imho. it failed to have a brand: the franchise title is irelevant even to the first game and the games were so different estethically it failed to stick with the masses.

the generic sci-fi singleplayer campaigns in Quake2/4 didn't help either in a world where Half-Life and other games excelled so much more.

oh and also, the Quake engine was so well done that people are still passionate about doing stuff with it (especially in mapping). it has this odd elegance while not being too archaic and some people treat its limits as a challenge for their creativity.

it's still enjoyable for me to play the custom singleplayer content out there: http://www.quaddicted.com/quake-injector/quake-injector-alpha2/ (you can filter, download and launch maps from this launcher at ease)

if you can't stomach the graphics anymore you can use the Quake Retexturing (& Remodelling) Project assets: http://qrp.quakeone.com/screenshots/

Seen Stermy's tweet last night and read the entire thing. Really really interesting stuff, absolutly nuts at how small the dev team was, yet still produced something so groundbreaking and amazing.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2168623

i searched for that on esr but i was not able to find it....


sometimes esr sucks bcause u never get want u want :D

qq

kinda like life, innit?

Yeah it would be cool if something like Quake was made again.

"You get the phone call at 4 a.m. By 5:30 you're in the secret installation. The commander explains tersely, "It's about the Slipgate device. Once we perfect these, we'll be able to use them to transport people and cargo from one place to another instantly. "An enemy codenamed Quake, is using his own slipgates to insert death squads inside our bases to kill, steal, and kidnap."The hell of it is we have no idea where he's from. Our top scientists think Quake's not from Earth, but another dimension. They say Quake's preparing to unleash his real army, whatever that is."You're our best man. This is Operation Counterstrike and you're in charge. Find Quake, and stop him ... or it ... You have full authority to requisition anything you need. If the eggheads are right, all our lives are expendable."

" While scouting the neighborhood, you hear shots back at the base. Damn, that Quake bastard works fast! He heard about Operation Counterstrike, and hit first. Racing back, you see the place is overrun. You are almost certainly the only survivor. Operation Counterstrike is over. Except for you. You know that the heart of the installation holds a slipgate. Since Quake's killers came through, it is still set to his dimension. You can use it to get loose in his hometown. Maybe you can get to the asshole personally. You pump a round into your shotgun, and get moving."

They just need to make it where you are a soldier in another lovecraftian dimention and you have to get out. Done.

rofl, everyone knows quake is just a 0815 halo clone

read it this morning, good article!

I the article was SO good , i went back yesterday and pre-read it

the neutrinos want their money back.

hipster

"The most popular online game in the world today, Team Fortress 2"

what?

it's probably the most played yea

WoW? LoL? whatever shit COD is up to now

think they are counting steam games only xD

even so, it beats CS?

Yepp...it beats CS

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Bottom left. The numbers are a bit off right now due to crashing problems with the latest patch, but the peak has been higher than CS for months.

**********among registred steam users

A++ for bulshit statistics

dont like to be forced through the advertisments to view the article.

also the content is rubbish. the most influential game is definitely not quake. think of asteroids, super mario, tetris, monky island ... they get quoted or made a parody of much more often.

and if you are interested in how id-software changed the gaming and hardware industry .. read the book "masters of doom" by David Kushner

so .. whatever


tl;dr

For the FPS's it sure is. Not to mention the internet play thing, that even Tetris had, afterwards of course.

Good game, shame about the players!

Now someone should made a thread called "How a poor business management destroyed the game that changed fps forever"

funny how they think of quake as their milestone and still id went in a totally different direction - beginning with quake 2 and resulting in those blatant jokes quake4 and doom3.
maybe they should stop jerking off their long past achievements and bring some fast pace gothic shit again instead of generic slow motion megatexture console bastards

Call the fucking care police.

harsh much?

It's very interesting to read about the troubles the team went through in the development. I think any team that has to develop a full 3D engine with textures, lighting etc, for the first time, and also develop a game to go with that engine, is a very tough job.

From what I've read, John Romero appears to have been, at that time, an idealist who didn't really understand how difficult it was to have his gameplay concepts implemented, and I think it was partly his leaving the team that caused the lack of creativity in the games released after this one.

Romero then went on to throw a shite-load of money at ION Storm, which, consequently, became a complete financial failure (although the games were fantastic, save Daikatana).

I think that if Romero had stayed, then 'Quake 2' (or whatever else they were going to call it) might have been another step forward in gameplay innovation (which IMO it was not), because he would have been the one to recognise what was truly great about Quake (the multiplayer, the art-style etc) and he would have had a creative influence on what the team was producing.

Id is not an authority on what makes a good game, but their open-source policy makes up for any lack of creativity they may have. It shows that they really do understand that the player/fan knows better than them. Innovation may not be their strong point, but they know how to foster it.

So before you go and hate on Id Software for being good for nothing since 1996, understand that they lack the time, money, expertise or will to cater to what you want in a game. Also understand that the technology they use today is exponentially more complex and time-consuming than what they were using 15 years ago.

Well i think quake2 was overall an ok game.. maybe not what people were expecting but alot of kids bought the game (like me) and played the single player and started to love the game, i remember at the beggining servers were full of people and from there on for long years.

Still yes i agree.. it probably dislocated quake from what should have been their major concern.. that is esports - multiplayer - lan events.. maybe they lacked the vision i don't know.

If that was the case i think q3 was the best moment .. it was the perfect mix between qw and q2 .. directed to multiplayer and it had huge success competition wise in the first years.. turning some players into made men like fatality.

When that happened.. id should have exploited that .. find a way to make it even bigger .. but they didn't .. they released a crap in form of a game called quake 4.. which was a mix of q2 singleplayer.. and some other thing that i can't even describe.

For me .. that's the gap (those 2 or 3 years) that killed quake and sent all the dreams about quake to the void. QL=q3 came to late and now .. we need some real genious sorting this out!

If that was the case i think q3 was the best moment .. it was the perfect mix between qw and q2

wat... do you mean CPM? Q3 was Q2 without double jumps, and a less shitty rocket launcher.

Are you joking? it had q2 movement it had lightning gun from qw faster rockets than q2 more like qw shotgun similar to qw and the gauntlet = qw axe anyway .. i bet you are a total qw fan but you can't expect a game to be an exact copy of another with better graphics.. your fanboyish is making you lose the point.

The LG is nothing like QW, but the CG is the same role anyway. The rockets being faster do not make it like QW, as they're still a far cry from the QW RL. The SG is fairly the same across all 3 games, and the axe has absolutely nothing to do with the gauntlet.

Great Article... Quake definitely had the most impact on my life than any other game.

i just read the news, not the full article yet, but i wanna say WORD!!

Hmm, where are we going to turn for DM games? The most likely turn is Tribes: Ascend for me if it turns out to not be a repeat of QL (ie failing due to pricing structure). I don't really see where else to go... Although if it's possible to make a mod for Rage including a DM type mode I would seriously play and support that, the weapons and movement are really fun.

just wait (and hope) for doom4 mp

not happening anymore\
http://kotaku.com/5851953/doom-4-indefinitely...ing-launch

reminiscing the glory days, then reality hits you when you try to load server browser in ql.com

the reason this game is dead now, can officially be contributed to the failure of ql and rage, both of which failed to generate enough revenue to keep things rolling.

case in point: no more doom 4

http://kotaku.com/5851953/doom-4-indefinitely...ing-launch

at a recent "company wide" meeting held in Dallas, Bethesda and parent company Zenimax made the decision to "indefinitely postpone" development of Doom 4.

The apparent source says that Zenimax and Bethesda made the decision based on the "the issues and reviews" surrounding RAGE's launch, which in their eyes has demonstrated "a serious lack of confidence in the project management at id".

id will probably abandon rage 2 then too.

back to bf2

Enh, Kotaku isn't exactly a good source. Do you have any other sources?

they all point to kotaku who points to an inside source.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/323296/d...ly-rumour/

http://www.develop-online.net/news/38925/Doom...e-failures

another take on it

http://www.flesheatingzipper.com/games/2011/10/doom-4-cancelled/

Best to wait for official confirmation, as this wouldn't be the first time Kotaku had bad info.

That makes no sense. Tone down the crazy.

scratch that. dreamhack just saved all of quake live, and probably rage, doom 4 and rage 2 as well!!! dreamhack has changed quake live forever!!!