ESR - RAGE Released - General Gaming Forum

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Anonymous (83.204.229.115) - Reply to #1

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<< Comment #94 @ 02:25 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #90

games gonna fail, it already has a tesco advert on tv

tage.com needs a forum, for the serious amount of tards who will say their joypad not working is a bug

Edited by p0rt at 02:26 BST, 5 October 2011

<< Comment #145 @ 14:13 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #90

33! conspiracy! lolwut?

<< Comment #95 @ 04:17 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Punkfm - Reply to #1

Have you tried militia?

<< Comment #178 @ 16:59 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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retire ' - Reply to #1

Sounds like militia..

<< Comment #2 @ 16:00 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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pks

No, but I guess it's a shooter without a story, and apparently everyone was expecting that despite the marketing to suggest otherwise. It also runs like ass on everything.

Wait a few days for this shit to get patched before buying, or just don't buy at all, I'm buying Dark Souls instead.

<< Comment #5 @ 17:02 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #2

shoot without a story? so quake doesn't have a story, doom doesn't have a story, don't you like those games?

<< Comment #10 @ 17:57 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #5

Where did i say i didnt like them? When you market a game one way and it ends up another its called bullshit.

<< Comment #14 @ 18:37 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #10

well, it looks like the game has a story, just too clich� also i don't see that has a bad thing, they just deviated to their roots. Laso i haven't said that you disliked those games, it was just an example of how awesome games can be without a story.

<< Comment #3 @ 16:36 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Teen Queen ++++|

Mixed reviews, mostly good ones though

link

<< Comment #6 @ 17:09 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #3

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/10/rage-is...-gamed.ars

<< Comment #33 @ 20:06 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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KittenIgnition + - Reply to #6

I only finished RAGE because I was paid to do so, and the process was a struggle

I lol'd.

<< Comment #38 @ 20:36 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #33

Looks like he was paid by the wrong guys. id really should not skimp on paying to arsetechnica reviewers next time.

Edited by sk4ut at 20:36 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #48 @ 21:58 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Teen Queen ++++| - Reply to #6

you picked out the only bad review from 20 good ones.

<< Comment #4 @ 16:54 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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tom :

no i got dark souls instead, gonna wait for some updates & reviews

<< Comment #58 @ 22:28 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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www.ninemil.com ' - Reply to #4

Save the cash for Dragon's Dogma, and use Dark Souls as a warm up :p

<< Comment #64 @ 23:27 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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tom : - Reply to #58

this game is kicking my ass.. much harder than demon souls

<< Comment #101 @ 08:54 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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www.ninemil.com ' - Reply to #64

Yeah, seemed that way at EuroGamer. But surely these days that's a good thing?

<< Comment #7 @ 17:12 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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skint ++|

Only read the arstechnica review which basically says it's shit. Still gonna rent it next week when I'm off anyway!

<< Comment #57 @ 22:27 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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www.ninemil.com ' - Reply to #7

Phil - seriously, they're not joking when they say it�s shit. It's unbelievably shit. I wouldn't even waste the money renting it.

<< Comment #8 @ 17:28 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob

all of rage's reviews to date:
http://www.vg247.com/2011/10/04/not-quote-all...ds-latest/

so far, the key things i've read that strike a chord are:

1. terrible storyline
2. beautiful graphics (bad up close)
3. great character animations
4. stock weapons, bad balancing
5. fun gun fights
6. no reason to explore
7. vehicles act like intermission between quests
8. bad ending

still reading. lots of reviews, lots from retailers though, which can be ignored.

<< Comment #20 @ 18:57 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #8

sorry if not really relevant to your quest, but may I ask: did you actually play the game?

<< Comment #22 @ 19:03 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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cityy ++++: - Reply to #20

He said he is gonna get it earlier today. He is just summarizing what is said in the reviews with the post I guess.

<< Comment #23 @ 19:20 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #22

While I don't know if RAGE is good or bad, ((I hope it's good but the only review I trust ((and was stupid enough to show him) said it's beautiful but also a shit game)), I'm pretty certain that those are not the 8 things what "strike the chord" the most in those reviews, because those (probably heavily biased) reviews are all gave the game a very high rating.
No offense - but so far - he is continuously bashing the game without even playing it:(

Edited by kapca at 19:24 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #71 @ 00:26 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #23

i have no idea what you're talking about. in my summary of the reviews i've read, almost all of them gave the same review in regards to those 8 points. (good graphics, no story, terrible ending, etc0. it wasn't a personal opinion. did you read any of the reviews?

<< Comment #9 @ 17:46 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut +

I would laugh as a madman if it will turn out that RAGE will be bought by less number of players, than QL has right now...

<< Comment #11 @ 18:00 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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cityy ++++: - Reply to #9

They probably already sold more copies than QL has players.

Edited by cityy at 18:02 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #12 @ 18:24 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #11

Thank you, mister head-of-id-software-financial-department.

Proof?

Edit: didn't noticed word probably in your post. No proof is needed then. :)))

Edited by sk4ut at 18:35 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #13 @ 18:37 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #12

According to steam, there are 3099 people playing Rage right now, with a peak of 4906.

<< Comment #15 @ 18:38 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #13

it isn't looking good to id then, lets just wait a few more days to draw more conclusions...

<< Comment #18 @ 18:47 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #13

So this is a failure then... To bad, actually.

Edit: wait a second... It is not out YET in EU???

Then let's wait for a few days. :)))

Edited by sk4ut at 20:41 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #16 @ 18:43 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Kazan - Reply to #9

you dont think only 150 ppl will buy rage do you?

<< Comment #17 @ 18:46 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #16

Only QL duel is played by at least 20000 people.

Source: www.qlranks.com

20 000 > 150

Edited by sk4ut at 18:48 BST, 4 October 2011

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hello_world ++++: - Reply to #17

Wrong. You're entitled to your own beliefs, but they're so wrong.

<< Comment #35 @ 20:23 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #21

Hm, and yet it is 20 000 people who know about QL, have client installed and even played at least single duel game.

If one can be called deluded, then it is you.

<< Comment #42 @ 21:25 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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hello_world ++++: - Reply to #35

Only QL duel is played by at least 20000 people

You realize there aren't even 20,000 people playing Quake Live in the present? If one can be called deluded, it is you.

<< Comment #44 @ 21:36 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #42

Hey look a sad camper! ha-ha

<< Comment #45 @ 21:44 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #42

Man, stop fucking with me! In which part of my post I said about 20000 simultaneous players?

Go away newb troll.

<< Comment #61 @ 22:48 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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hello_world ++++: - Reply to #45

Comprehensively there are not 20,000 players. Simultaneously there are not 500 players. Go away newb troll.

<< Comment #69 @ 00:24 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #61

QLRanks ranked 20000 active duelers during last month.

And there is no way to check simultaneous player numbers in QL - so it may happen that right now we have more then 500 players playing on all the servers.

It's sad to be you, man.

<< Comment #72 @ 00:27 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #69

Accounts, not duelers.

<< Comment #77 @ 00:40 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #72

I doubt that per 1 player there is 2 active accounts. I think actual coefficient is much lower. So not a big deal, we still in tens of thousands realm.

<< Comment #140 @ 13:16 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #77

Most players have more than 2 accounts, and there have already been at least 2 people listed on this site with 40.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #140

I have 3 of them (cause id support sucks) but still play duel only from one. So what?

<< Comment #143 @ 13:23 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #141

What do you have to do with it?

<< Comment #153 @ 14:36 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #143

Ehhh... Don't understand what you are really asking for. :)

<< Comment #206 @ 00:47 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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led ' - Reply to #153

The discussion was about how many active duelers exist, not how many accounts you have.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #206

And I used personal example showing that although I have 3 accounts now in QL, I still use only one. So plain number of alt accounts mean nothing in this particular discussion.

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vedic +' - Reply to #217

No, it means you are a minority.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #219

This doesn't make sense either with regard to the topic. :)

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vedic +' - Reply to #220

The topic is on players, and qlranks shows accounts - most players have multiple accounts that they play on, so the numbers you see are multiplied. Your average ESR user generally says that they have around 4-5 accounts, and there are people here who have been obsessive enough to have 40+.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #221

And still, you are grossly overestimating number of alt accounts, and you have no facts to proove your opinion.

Edited by sk4ut at 10:30 BST, 6 October 2011

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vedic +' - Reply to #232

I never gave an opinion on the actual number of accounts to players, but evidence suggests that it is a lot higher than we would like to think.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #290

What "evidence"? Man, you do not have any facts - just your biased opinion.

Edited by sk4ut at 17:32 BST, 6 October 2011

<< Comment #295 @ 17:37 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #294

The actual in-game evidence, and the site statistics.

<< Comment #298 @ 18:17 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #295

Ok, when I talking about my numbers, I have proof - qlranks web site with number on it.

What proofs (or sources which can be checked) you have?

<< Comment #301 @ 18:44 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #298

Do you have proof that each account is a single person?

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sk4ut + - Reply to #301

Nope. But I do not remember saying it in this thread either. :)

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vedic +' - Reply to #310

So we agree that there are multiple accounts being used, and based on the full activity of the game, the alt accounts must be relatively high.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #313

No. :)

<< Comment #316 @ 20:08 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #315

Feel free to prove otherwise.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #316

CBA

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vedic +' - Reply to #318

obv

<< Comment #358 @ 21:01 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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oreozz : - Reply to #316

what the fuck? even if I agree the game is dead, that isn't how proving shit works

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

you do similar shit all the time

go to college

<< Comment #361 @ 23:44 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #358

I've already proven it in other threads.

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raythenoob - Reply to #361

no you didn't

<< Comment #469 @ 02:42 BST, 13 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #468

Welcome to a week ago, where you would still be wrong.

<< Comment #73 @ 00:31 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #69

no fense, but he's right. You have also totally failed to take alt accounts into the equation. Also, the population of ql is less than anyone, including myself, thought. This based on some research i've done over the past couple weeks. I'll have more details in the months to come, but i can solidly say now, that there are not 20,000 people playing ql anymore and from what i've seen, it could be much much worse than that.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #73

Man, QLRanks numbers are facts. Open to interpretation, but still. Your research - on what facts it is based?

<< Comment #123 @ 11:57 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #79

20,000 accounts dude.... accounts.... do you not understand the difference between accounts and people.

and also, did you not notice the fact that these guys are working with id now? Those numbers inflated by miles. You are really reaching here to think that many people are left playing duel specifically. Really reaching.

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sk4ut + - Reply to #123

As I already said to vedic, I doubt that every player has 2 live accounts. Actually, this coefficient should be much lower. So we still have more then 10000 people playing. 15000, perhaps?

And about inflating numbers from qlranks side - man, you'd better show to your psychoterapist ASAP. Looks like the medication you are on is not strong enough...

Edit: Screw you, LiveJournal, why did you put reply link at the same place where ESR has plus button???

Edited by sk4ut at 12:52 BST, 5 October 2011

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raythenoob - Reply to #137

what? most people have at least one other account, whether they use it actively is another question, but to think that the majority never tried making an alt account in 3 years is on par with living in dreamland where you obviously are at.

<< Comment #168 @ 15:42 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #162

So what? As I already said, I have 3 accounts, but 2 of them are inactive. The same story can be applied to the most people with alt accounts as well.

And qlranks count only active accounts. So actual number of QL duel players is still close to 20 000.

Looks like you have no facts left at your disposal supporting your views, and now you are out of arguments as well.

Edited by sk4ut at 15:42 BST, 5 October 2011

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raythenoob - Reply to #168

And qlranks count only active accounts

LOL WUT!!!??? so if i make an account today, and never play it again after 10 games, those 10 games will dissapear tomorrow?

common sense. do you have it?

<< Comment #216 @ 09:01 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #203

So everybody who plays quake, registers new account after every 10 games? I don't think so.

Common sense. Do you have it?

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raythenoob - Reply to #216

that's not the point, you said qlranks only attains info on "active accounts". How can they possibly verify if an account is active or not. They can't and you have no understanding of the word active as used in this case. Active simply means (hasn't been abondoned for x number of months).

Edited by raythenoob at 11:52 BST, 6 October 2011

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #123

I'd say most people dont even think about having more than one account. Its a narrow group of dumb people with ego/personalities disorders. I'll give you max 5000 fake accounts, so thats like 15000 duel players. And at least in my community theres like 3x CA players than duelers. QL hasnt millions of players like Carmack dreamed, but it isnt as dead as sad campers dream, even smart ones like vedic.

9%

<< Comment #154 @ 14:37 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #146

And this time this plus was fully intentional. :)

<< Comment #160 @ 15:04 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #146

there are not even 15,000 duelers dude. Have either of you looked at the number of duelers playing each day in all locations. Do i really need to make 48 screenshots every 30 minutes to prove it to you? i'm going to guess there are less than 3,000 and i believe that's even reaching.

edit: nevermind, i'll do it tomorrow to show you. might do it every 15 minutes so you can't wiggle your way out of it.

<< Comment #170 @ 15:47 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #160

So you think a player has to be 24x7 on the server to count? lol not everybody has this level of practice schedule. QLranks is just using stats from the last month or so, 15000 duel active players, some play a lot, some play less, but theyre playing the game and thats what matters.

<< Comment #415 @ 02:23 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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szr ++: - Reply to #123

"did you not notice the fact that these guys are working with id now?" hahahahaha, busted us oh shit!

<< Comment #424 @ 14:07 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #415

actually sync already hinted towards it, but he prob didn't know that either lol

<< Comment #96 @ 06:06 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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mkeiy ' - Reply to #73

no fense, but you're a fucking idiot.

<< Comment #124 @ 11:57 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #96

you're a moron if you think that many peole are playing duel alone. seriously.

<< Comment #166 @ 15:29 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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mkeiy ' - Reply to #124

HAHAHA, awesome. You took the bait and didn't even realise. Can you please kill yourself?

<< Comment #204 @ 00:44 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #166

don't shit a brick when i show you just how many people are really playing. But do give me a week or so to gather it together. Ty

<< Comment #289 @ 17:22 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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mkeiy ' - Reply to #204

amazing.

<< Comment #19 @ 18:56 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Omni

Another Brink.

<< Comment #36 @ 20:25 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #19

Exactly my thought at the moment.

<< Comment #43 @ 21:29 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Liam + - Reply to #19

LAGE

<< Comment #46 @ 21:46 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #43

Just another semi accidental plus...

Need to think about it - why I keep pressing plus button when actually I want to reply?

<< Comment #55 @ 22:21 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Liam + - Reply to #46

I'm just that funny

<< Comment #68 @ 23:54 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Omni - Reply to #55

Where?

<< Comment #70 @ 00:26 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #55

This time, I clicked on the right spot! \o/

<< Comment #24 @ 19:25 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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tmunnich '

So their flagship shooter is a buggy piece of shit.

I guess we can stop wondering if id will ever improve QL, considering how they treat their super awesome expensive product they've been working on for several years.

Edited by tmunnich at 19:30 BST, 4 October 2011

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #24

That really sucks, cant believe a game thats been 4 years in development can be launched with those glitches :/

edit: seems to be happening mostly with ati drivers, so should be fixed soon with an update?

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 21:37 BST, 4 October 2011

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Kazan - Reply to #24

You probably can't turn that fast with a controller

Edited by Kazan at 19:45 BST, 4 October 2011

20%

<< Comment #56 @ 22:26 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #27

First you quoting from Youtube, than you edit your post to look like if it was your line? o_O

<< Comment #60 @ 22:29 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Kazan - Reply to #56

horrible things

<< Comment #62 @ 23:06 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #27

Liam can't turn that fast at all :O

10%

<< Comment #63 @ 23:15 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Teen Queen ++++| - Reply to #62

uncalled for :(

<< Comment #84 @ 00:49 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #63

Liam is already in this thread, so this comment was totally expected.

Edited by sk4ut at 00:49 BST, 5 October 2011

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InDepther +: - Reply to #84

no

ps: the reply button is in bottom left

<< Comment #136 @ 12:44 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #118

Thanks for the help!

<< Comment #82 @ 00:46 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #62

LMAO

<< Comment #76 @ 00:40 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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fragmaster_ +| - Reply to #27

unfortunately you can... i have the ps3 version, it's not as bad as in the video but still very noticeable...

<< Comment #85 @ 00:49 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #76

Then its not ATI drivers only? If PS3 does the same glitch, i would go hmmmm

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fragmaster_ +| - Reply to #85

like i said, it's not AS bad. it's not like you're using picmip 5 or so, but you can still see the textures build up when you're moving.

<< Comment #147 @ 14:28 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #89

:/ it seriously conflicts with the suspension of disbelief... Your mind goes from woah look im in postacopalictyc shit and all to... wtf?

<< Comment #28 @ 19:44 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #24

Others told me that the new ati beta driver (which is being used in this video) are a complette shitfest. But I have to admit, even if this can be tweaked with a larger +fc_maxcachememoryMB (or whatever else), there are no excuses for releasing a game in a state like this, looks like how the ps1 used to load up the shit from the CDs:D.... this is very very bad!

<< Comment #104 @ 09:45 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #28

it is the cache files folders not being created :P just check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ryK2PErQQc

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kapca ' - Reply to #104

yea I know, but anyway, everybody says you can't play it with a CRT monitors because r_displayrefresh is locked to 60.
I just got my new CRT, so i don't give a shit:D

edit: apparently it's a false info from clueless users, the monitor can run on any Hz

Edited by kapca at 14:19 BST, 5 October 2011

<< Comment #179 @ 17:32 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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faerie_ ++++ - Reply to #114

fps might be hardcapped at 60 and the standard hz limit might be 60 but it'll probably work with refreshlock or any other program designed to enforce your best hz/res.

I've only seen one game hardcoded to run at 60z that would constantly force 60hz after refreshlock had switched my crt to 100, mechwarrior 4. Believe me, it's pretty scary to hear your crt go CLONK! 15 times in a row until refreshlock gives up :D

<< Comment #74 @ 00:33 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #24

wow.... thats' bad...

<< Comment #103 @ 09:44 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ryK2PErQQc
this happens because the game is not creating the folders to place the cache files

<< Comment #190 @ 20:59 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #24

just check the annotations on the video :P

<< Comment #196 @ 21:56 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #24

does that in quakewars, can stop it with these

seta r_detailTexture "1"
seta r_jitter "0"
seta r_shaderQuality "2"
seta r_mode "6"
seta r_megaTilesPerSecond "1024"
seta r_megaStreamBlocks "6"
seta r_megaFadeTime "12000"
seta r_multiSamples "0"
seta r_skipDepthAmbient "0"

//this needs to be default and linear
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"

and also gives you perfect megatextures in quakewars, as far as the eye can see

Edited by p0rt at 21:59 BST, 5 October 2011

<< Comment #25 @ 19:28 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kevz ++|

forgot all about this game, getting a feeling that ill keep forgetting about it though. it doesnt seem to strike me as such an amazing game but ill wait and see for some user reviews.

moar bf3 beta in the meantime :>

<< Comment #174 @ 16:20 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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unihumi ' - Reply to #25

if bf3 weren't buggy as fuck

<< Comment #176 @ 16:28 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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kevz ++| - Reply to #174

hence why its a beta, not a demo ;p

<< Comment #223 @ 09:48 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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unihumi ' - Reply to #176

It's more a demo, tbh. The whole beta marketing strategy is all PR!

<< Comment #29 @ 19:49 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++

I wish more gaming companies released demos now-a-days.. I want to test this shit before I buy... :|

<< Comment #30 @ 19:54 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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skint ++| - Reply to #29

I thought you illegally downloaded everything anyway?

<< Comment #32 @ 20:06 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #30

I have plenty of games on steam :S

Also, Rage ain't out yet :[

<< Comment #100 @ 08:18 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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ZeriouS +| - Reply to #29

True :[

<< Comment #31 @ 19:56 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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eri +|

U should all buy it just for being an id software game regardless of latest events.Stop being so fucking laughable

They still gave you q3 and qw , enough said

<< Comment #34 @ 20:21 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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higgs +: - Reply to #31

Hmm.. I think I'm actually going to skip buying it because its made by id. I never played qw or q3 I have no attachment to those times, But I have been playing ql since 2008 and the last 3 years have indicated that I should never give these fools any of my money until gigantic changes are made down there.

<< Comment #53 @ 22:19 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #34

Fair enough in your case

But for the majority of people here... they played q3/q2/qw for waaaay more time than can ever be repaid yet they are crying about 50 euro max.

<< Comment #88 @ 00:53 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #34

So you have played the game for 3 years, consuming resources from the web portal, database, actual server location processor and bandwith, receveing maybe not the greateast updates of quake history, but updates and maps, and so on. And its not worth 50 bucks? *cough* *cough* *cheap* *ass* *cough* *cough*

<< Comment #93 @ 02:23 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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higgs +: - Reply to #88

um I paid for a pro sub (mainly out of pity and charity though) to support quakelive. That doesn't mean I have to also buy everything id develops.

<< Comment #148 @ 14:30 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #93

I agree, buy at least a premium if you still play, miracles happens, thanks :)

<< Comment #163 @ 15:08 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #148

premium is a waste of money. Only thing worth buying in some small respects is pro, and that's only if you're a clan leader or intend to invite friends to your games.

<< Comment #126 @ 12:00 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #88

why continue to support a lazy development team that hardly tests anything prior to release? you can't deny that now based on what we've seen with ql and with rage at this oint. They really do appear simply to be meeting deadlines, instead of realistic timelines.

Edited by raythenoob at 12:01 BST, 5 October 2011

<< Comment #37 @ 20:33 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #31

And then Carmack will spend this money on rockets and shit, instead improving our beloved QL.

No way.

Edited by sk4ut at 20:41 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #59 @ 22:29 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Pushpabon | - Reply to #37

JC already got dem millions after selling id to jewimax.

<< Comment #40 @ 21:21 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #31

So asking for esr opinions on the game is so laughable? If you enjoyed qw and q3 so much, i imagine you have a QL pro account right? Youre not even listed on Qlranks ffs. Youre just another freak saying one thing and doing the opposite, no offense intended. If you enjoyed quake, you play, promote and encourage buying QL pro accounts, you genius :D

To those using Arstechica review, haha dont be fools in any serious review, you got to disgregard the lowest and highest ones, arstechica are a bunch of angry nerds tbh.

The texture issue seems to be with ATI drivers, can be improved by applying some compression settings to the cfg that i cant remember where is the link now, google it :F

changing fov

<< Comment #50 @ 22:14 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #40

arstechica are a bunch of angry nerds tbh.

Wouldn't that apply to the bulk of this site, and thus reflect the general opinion that would be held here?

<< Comment #78 @ 00:41 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #50

\:D/

<< Comment #51 @ 22:15 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #40

Actually i do have a premium account.

What u forgot to mention is that qlranks only tracks 1v1 and tdm which i do not play .

So u really truly have no point there whatsoever , genius

<< Comment #83 @ 00:48 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #51

My bad then, the point about supporting games you like and not games for the sake of who does it stands. If you can afford QL Pro + Rage, i salute your show of die hard fan attitude, srsly.

<< Comment #107 @ 09:58 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #83

Well it's only a 45 euro one time cost in this case.

Also downloading the torrent would take forever .. 18 gb :P Although that's not my main motivation obviously

<< Comment #75 @ 00:35 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #31

i was leaning towards it for a while there after seeing some of the trailers but you have to admit, the bugs in this game are catastrophic .... not sure i've ever seen a game released with this many problems... oh wait.... forgot about ql.... nm

<< Comment #108 @ 09:59 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #75

Yeah from what iv'e seen it's kinda meh. The trailers did look good though :(

<< Comment #39 @ 21:08 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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j0sh_

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/10/rage-is...-gamed.ars

tl;dr? Bland and worthless. Article spends 1 paragraph saying "its pretty" and the rest telling how it sucks.

<< Comment #41 @ 21:25 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #39

Arstechnica! Choose arstechicnaaz thats the worst one! (arstechincs being known angry nerds) while a cool site of happy campers like ve3d gives 4.5/5. Stop nitpicking the worst review its so obvious it hurts :D I dont want external reviews ive already seen them, i want the opinion of level headed esr gamers, something that seems to be lacking in the full cup club...

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 21:27 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #49 @ 21:59 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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j0sh_ - Reply to #41

sorry, new to my nerd sites i guess :D

<< Comment #149 @ 14:32 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #49

np bro ;)

<< Comment #47 @ 21:57 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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syncore ++:

http://imghunt.org/images/72713280791200050920.jpg

LOL

<< Comment #54 @ 22:20 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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Kazan - Reply to #47

painful

<< Comment #65 @ 23:28 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #47

http://www.sizefivegames.com/uploads/rage_satire.png

<< Comment #66 @ 23:31 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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faerie_ ++++ - Reply to #65

Looks like a better Another World remake than the hd thingie tbh.

<< Comment #67 @ 23:37 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #66

It's a fake pic obviously, but also: Another World looked better tbh:)

Edited by kapca at 23:38 BST, 4 October 2011

<< Comment #81 @ 00:45 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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faerie_ ++++ - Reply to #67

truedat but you get my point.

<< Comment #87 @ 00:52 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #65

Hm, PC version looks similar to my QL setup. Probably, I should buy this game.

<< Comment #127 @ 12:02 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #87

aren't you the guy who prostituted 100 free accounts to people on this site for 2$ an invite?

<< Comment #135 @ 12:43 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #127

No I'am not. Could you offer some links? Really curious to see at what was really happening.

<< Comment #165 @ 15:22 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #135

ah , off a couple letters
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1596804

carry on then

<< Comment #167 @ 15:38 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #165

Man, you should not only visit your psycotherapist ASAP, but an oftalmologist as well.

Nick of that guy is SKINT. And my nick is SK4UT. See the difference?

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raythenoob - Reply to #167

ya off by 2. and that was from simply glancing at it earlier this morning. take a chill pill

<< Comment #218 @ 09:06 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #205

Hm, am I really that naive expecting excuses from you? Simple sorry word will do.

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raythenoob - Reply to #218

lol sorry for what? the original question, was just that, a question. i didn't poinpoint you as the guy, i asked if you WERE that guy, hence the ? at the end of the sentence.

<< Comment #283 @ 15:21 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #251

Are you still sucking black dicks in the morning?

Just asking, no offense. :)

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reyu - Reply to #283

"still" makes your example flawed.

<< Comment #413 @ 14:54 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #412

No, it is in fact necessary. :)

<< Comment #52 @ 22:18 BST, 4 October 2011 >>

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comrade ++'

Rage was released just to demo the latest crap engine from Carmack. What's the point of creating an engine only few will use anyway? ego?

You know how Romero always references his work on Doom and Quake from way back in in time. So does id. id's last successes were quake 3 and rtcw imo. that's it.

be a fan of a good game, not a company and its past.

<< Comment #80 @ 00:44 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #52

id last game, Doom3 was the most succesful $$$, romero? lol. Cool guy but when he was the boss, Daikatana was the result :D

<< Comment #189 @ 20:51 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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viaIImaximus ++' - Reply to #80

hahahaha so true

<< Comment #86 @ 00:50 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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fragmaster_ +|

i just picked it up for ps3 and i've been playing for about an hour now.

the story sucks. everything seems so random. the beginning reminded me of q2, same thing basically. graphics are ok. up close it's bad (see video above) even on ps3. the way you interact with other characters is weird, your character doesn't say a word but the others talk normally.

i'll keep playing for a bit.

<< Comment #91 @ 01:08 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #86

from what I've seen it seems quite enjoyable, shooting wise
can you travel these long distances by foot?

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fragmaster_ +| - Reply to #91

not sure what you mean, but yeah, you can walk around between bases etc. i blew up my ATV with a grenade by accident and had to walk around for a while before i got bored walking and loaded the last savegame :X

<< Comment #192 @ 21:23 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #92

u understood the question well
10x :)

<< Comment #99 @ 08:04 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Izi | - Reply to #91

you can even strafejump =)

<< Comment #97 @ 06:09 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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IceIYIaN

Does it still use Config.cfg? Can anyone post it?

<< Comment #98 @ 07:25 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raw '

Not going to bother with Rage either. I am going to hang on in hope for QL to get a couple of updates otherwise its time to become a full time bf3 monkey!

<< Comment #128 @ 12:03 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #98

a couple updates from sponge? one man can only do so much....

<< Comment #131 @ 12:07 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raw ' - Reply to #128

I can live in hope ray! :-)

<< Comment #152 @ 14:33 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #131

:D

<< Comment #159 @ 14:59 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #131

cape hope? i wouldn't want to live there during hurricane season... which is now fyi

<< Comment #303 @ 18:48 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Drexciyian + - Reply to #98

I played d3 single player maybe twice, q4 for a few mins... dunno wy they bother try do single player games anymore :)

<< Comment #102 @ 09:06 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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GUArd ++++'

I will download it from torrents to try.
As someone above told, I love QuakeW , Q2 , Q3, not ID.

<< Comment #105 @ 09:49 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #102

gl with 30Gb download

<< Comment #106 @ 09:58 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #105

18gb actually, or ~4 hours wait for me :)

<< Comment #109 @ 10:06 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #106

ye, but after that 18gb, it will download an extra 9gb after decompressing, at least on steam:P, i read this somewhere on techpowerup.com on the RAGE megathread... I guess the biggest problem they have found, and the one that is responsible for the textures to pop in etc, is that the game fails to create the folders to place the cache files, and you have to create them manually. This combined with some commands will make it run good. But this should have been done automatically...

Also it was really fast to download on steam i was downloading at 2.9Mbytes/sec

<< Comment #112 @ 10:26 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #109

not true, i did the folder caching thing and experimented with all the performance commands. still unplayable. i'm on ati also though

<< Comment #113 @ 11:06 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #112

Originally Posted by AnandTech
With the release of id Software's Rage this morning, AMD has pushed out a new preview driver specifically for the game. Unlike last week's 11.10 preview driver, AMD has not assigned a version number to this driver as it's based on an earlier fork than 11.10, making it both newer and older than the 11.10 preview. As a result AMD is reccomending users only install this driver for playing Rage, and stick to 11.10 otherwise.

Update: AMD apparently posted the wrong driver the first time around. The Catalyst preview for Rage has been re-released with the correct driver.
download the correct driver here: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GP...river.aspx

hope this helps

<< Comment #181 @ 18:57 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #113

There�s mixed news for AMD card owners. �Yesterday we posted the latest beta drivers for both card manufacturers on our blog,� say Bethesda. �We�ve learned that AMD is reporting issues with their driver update, and you should not use it.�

pcgamer.com

Tried it anyway, didn't do shit. Also tried the tweak you posted below.

<< Comment #182 @ 19:09 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #181

People with 6950 and above seem to have it running flawlessly. tomorrow i will have it rocking on my 6970 and i will report something.

<< Comment #133 @ 12:37 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #112

also try this:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2156408

<< Comment #120 @ 11:48 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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GUArd ++++' - Reply to #105

25 mins :)

<< Comment #134 @ 12:43 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #120

1337 internet :D

<< Comment #151 @ 14:32 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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GUArd ++++' - Reply to #134

for 8 euros/month :))

<< Comment #157 @ 14:55 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #151

im jelly, i will get 30mb fiber on Thursday and i will pay 19,87�/month

<< Comment #288 @ 17:13 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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annihiluzz +| - Reply to #120

doesnt matter how fast is ur internet when u download a new game from torrents ;)

<< Comment #293 @ 17:30 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #288

If there are enough Swedish seeders on it it can still be pretty fast :p

Edited by kalston at 17:31 BST, 6 October 2011

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Erk ' - Reply to #288

Private trackers usually have some insane bandwith seedboxes. 1-1.5 MB/s or more is quite common for torrents on private trackers. That would prob bring down rage fairly quick.

Edited by Erk at 21:59 BST, 14 October 2011

<< Comment #110 @ 10:10 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Aquashark +'

games these days are so huge and shitty, i can't even be arsed to pirate them
it's a shame tho, cause i have 10-100 MB games that i'm playing for years.. i don't have to worry about specs either

Edited by Aquashark at 10:11 BST, 5 October 2011

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john "Zerofor" rembo ++++: - Reply to #110

Innit. Fucksakes, what does it say about modern games when i'm getting more enjoyment out of playing Syndicate for an hour than Gears of War 412341 or whatever the fuck is the new thing atm?

Games have been ruined by kids and their consumerist parents. There's no innovation anymore - look at how few games today have original concepts or ideas, developers play it safe and churn out title after title after title apparently designed with the same god-damned mould in mind and it works because the kiddies eat that shit up regardless.

Even if the game is honestly good there's always some crap that hugely annoys me, like the fact that most games today are easy as hell, revolve around some arbitrary completion percentage and/or achievements and hold my hand while i'm playing it, like they think i'm too stupid to figure shit out on my own. Give me a god-damned manual and leave me to it, assholes, is what i would say to developers.

Maybe i'm just getting too old for all this but i still regularly go back to older games (not even necessarily ones i'm nostalgic about, i constantly dig up titles i have never played) so it's not like my passion is gone.

Hope this whole sick market collapses under it's own weight and people with good, fresh ideas come forward and take over once more. Thank fuck there are still indie games.

ps. Sorry for ranting, had to let it out and your post was as good a place to do so as any. :P

<< Comment #132 @ 12:08 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #121

pretty much what you said. Games really are much easier now than they were even on the atari/nintendo. Anyone ever beat all 100 levels of wrecking crew or beat all 32 levels in ice climber? They really have dumbed games down immensely.

<< Comment #187 @ 20:10 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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john "Zerofor" rembo ++++: - Reply to #132

Hah yeah. Games back then didn't fuck around - you died? TOO BAD MOFO, START OVER. Being able to save and load at your leisure makes games easy enough, but nowadays you get so many help and they're so easy, it's insulting. :/ Fucking console kiddies ruined it all.

<< Comment #111 @ 10:14 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Cyn1c +:

Fuck RAGE..Red Orchestra 2 for the win!

<< Comment #155 @ 14:49 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #111

funny thing is, sponge is addicted to that game currently and was seen playing it during work hours this past month on irc. It does look like a great game though. Love the coop missions. Rage in comparison is a lonely highway of solitude.

Edited by raythenoob at 14:50 BST, 5 October 2011

<< Comment #122 @ 11:54 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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john "Zerofor" rembo ++++:

Hey look it's that game that killed QL. And it's a sub-par, forgettable pile of poo. How fucking awesome.

<< Comment #115 @ 11:17 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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[eXodus] ++

i was sad after 1 hour of play i bought brink.

i was glad after 1 hour of play i didn't buy deus ex 2, i'm glad for watching some videos of this so i dont even have to waste that 1 hour on this.

B.S. about support ID cos they gave us q3, gtfo. You get what you give, and in ID's perspective that hasn't been a lot these last few years.

<< Comment #116 @ 11:28 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++:

http://kotaku.com/5846633/how-to-find-quake-inside-rage

<< Comment #119 @ 11:44 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #116

Y THEY NOT GO THROUGH EASY/MED/NIGHTMARE PORTAL?

<< Comment #485 @ 00:40 BST, 15 October 2011 >>

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ischju ++| - Reply to #119

exactly :(

<< Comment #117 @ 11:31 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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I'm loving it. As long as you have an nVidia card with CUDA the game is butter smooth and doesn't suffer from the blurry textures effect.
Some textures are blurry up close but apart from that it looks good.
ATI has been crap with OpenGL for years, it's nothing new and it's the main reason why I stick to nVidia.

With the mouse smoothing disabled (good old m_smooth cmd, I also did cl_mouseaccel "0", I put both in the default.cfg) the mouse input is perfect, and the feeling is good, it's responsive etc.
I like the gameplay, weapons feel great and the gunfights are fun. You can strafe jump as well.
The game is really easy on hard though, I don't mind that much however since I just see this as a relaxing SP game. (haven't tried the nightmare setting yet mind you).

I'm buying it in the following days.

PS: steady 60fps (capped ofc) in 1080p with 2xAA on a GTX 275, no v-sync because my monitor does 77hz so I get no tearing. CPU is a i5 2500k @4.6ghz, each core is at about 30% load. Also, unlike most people the game detected my refresh rate properly and I didn't have to touch the r_displayrefresh cmd. I have done the EDID override trick though, maybe that's why.

Edited by kalston at 11:50 BST, 5 October 2011

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acid_reptile - Reply to #117

Yes 120hz works fine on 2233rz. Did not even have to change something (560GTX here). I still think i will buy the game (if they fix the grapics issues.)

btw, nobody has mentioned the movement system in this game? Its strafejump ability is priceless.(u gain so much speed, u don't even need vehicles in the first place.) This is really not a to bad thing, especially when this is the new engine for games we're waiting for so long. Doom 4 will be a great game if its anything close to that. The only thing i don't like about Rage controlls is the crouch toggle.

Edit: Ok next time i'll read the post im replying to.

Edited by acid_reptile at 12:10 BST, 5 October 2011

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tipatapa - Reply to #130

u gain so much speed, u don't even need vehicles in the first place

Looks a lot slower than vehicles to me

Edited by tipatapa at 12:57 BST, 5 October 2011

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vedic +' - Reply to #139

... was that a joke?

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acid_reptile - Reply to #139

I got much faster and i suck at strafejumping @ quake. So its completly possible i did something diffrent :P u have to use sprint tho.

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acid_reptile - Reply to #150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ5DbGpKO-M

This was linked on Quake.de

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kapca ' - Reply to #130

Afaik nobody has 120Hz working, it's just your display running in 120Hz, but the game runs at 60Hz. If you put QL to com_maxfps 60 while your monitor in 120Hz (or whatever high enough Hz), the experience if just awful in every way:(

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acid_reptile - Reply to #144

I didn't say i have 120 frames per second. It means the motions refresh 60 times per seconds, which syncs just fine with 120hz. Its not the crappy 60 fps cap from ID tech 4 at least. But heres a quote from youtube im kinda worried about regarding the engine:

"But the pop in problems will still always be there, it's ingrained in the engine at this point. Carmack himself said at QuakeCon that you can break the engine by flipping around 180 degrees incredibly fast."

I kinda hope that its false info. I've seen some interviews with carmack but can't remember him saying that.

Edited by acid_reptile at 14:54 BST, 5 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #156

I think later it will be tweaked on the PC to keep everything around you in the memory, because if it won't then it's useless tbh.

<< Comment #125 @ 11:59 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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presha

" [...]but the only multiplayer options offered are six-player vehicular combat and two-player co-op challenges."
so no deathmatch, no shooting at all? only some stupid buggy races? THE F?

so basically we got some brink+bordelrands mix with better (and buggy atm) graphics and no multi at all? Like hell I'm buying it, lol.

Edited by presha at 21:17 BST, 5 October 2011

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raytheknob

its crap because syncerror (Adam Pyle) isnt doing his job as a community manager he just circle jerking with his buttbuddies (namely incubus, aver, n1ggrbl4str, etc...) who unpunishedly tierslumming ati drivers....
no wonder about the state of the game, when they say "everyone is equal' but you can see his nvidia owner friends are ia bit more equal than us

Edited by raytheknob at 12:07 BST, 5 October 2011

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raythenoob - Reply to #129

you do realize everyone can see you were named omlas before right?

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r1ddler +++ - Reply to #158

Nope! Chuck Testa.

<< Comment #138 @ 12:52 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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hyper_

I think it looks good fun... of course I would have prefered that ID worked on a new multiplayer for 5 years, but they have to look at where the money is, and we know who to blame for that.

<< Comment #164 @ 15:14 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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mastertouch - Reply to #138

what money are they making with rage? this is just another fps shooter that will be replaced by cod and battlefield next month. I doubt they will make any significant profit or any profit at all.

<< Comment #171 @ 15:53 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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teh_stryder

carmack forgot r_picmip set to 10

<< Comment #172 @ 16:15 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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dutra '

Minimum:

Intel Core 2 Duo or Equivalent AMD CPU
2GB RAM
GeForce 8800, Radeon HD 4200 or equivalent GPU
Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, Windows 7 OS
25 GB Hard Drive space
Steam account

lol.

<< Comment #173 @ 16:18 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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butcher_kgp ++

why this game looks so damn ugly on my pc, I am running it on a 3GHz intel core 2 duo and GTX 260. Everything looks picmiped, textures load/ refresh if the players head turns. Gameplay was all right, story seemed bland so far.

bit disappointed.

<< Comment #175 @ 16:24 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #173

Turn the GPU transcoding thing on. It uses CUDA to make the textures load much faster and makes it impossible to see the blurry textures when you do a quick 180 (if you GPU isn't struggling that is, otherwise you might still see them a bit).

And who the fuck cares about the story in this? It was meant to be simple and old school and nothing else.

Edited by kalston at 16:24 BST, 5 October 2011

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fazz ++: - Reply to #175

Simple and old, with questing from the first second of gameplay :)

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kalston | - Reply to #177

Yeah I know, but at least there is no XP bar or levels etc

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #173

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2156408

someone had it running good with a gtx260, check on those pages...

EDIT: http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1...ry18743528

Edited by uuuaaaaaa at 19:19 BST, 5 October 2011

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Six16 ++

What a piece of shit software.

Ran like shit on latest (non beta) drivers. So I updated and ran fine, only to crash (and reboot) my PC after 2 mins of playing what looked like a boring shooter.

Other new games seem to work fine.

Shameful release ID... whatever happened to "we'll release it when it's done".

<< Comment #184 @ 19:19 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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crea* +: - Reply to #180

only blizzard can still afford that

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vedic +' - Reply to #184

Valve. Just look at episode 3.

<< Comment #227 @ 10:14 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #180

Let me guess, you have an ATI card?

<< Comment #230 @ 10:22 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #227

Nope, gtx 560ti

<< Comment #233 @ 10:31 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #230

Don't know what's wrong with your PC then, I have seen VERY FEW people with nVidia cards having issues. Are you using beta drivers or something?

I'm using the latest stable ones (280.something) and it's absolutely flawless.

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #233

I was using the latest non beta orginally which was stuttery/laggy as fuck, I tried a few things to fix but didn't have much effect, so I updated to beta drivers and it worked fine but crashed after a few mins. I haven't gone back to try again because I honestly cba.

<< Comment #237 @ 10:40 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #235

That's really weird :/

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #235

have you activated that option in the settings that makes the game use CUDA to accelerate the texture streaming?

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #257

Yup I did.

Like I've said, it worked fine after updating the drivers.. only to crash, I haven't tried it again though.

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #268

people with nvidia cards are having little issues, just use that command to set the amount of vRam Rage can use, it might help you.

<< Comment #185 @ 19:42 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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This is the engine that Carmack hyped up so much? This is the result of 5 years of work?!

The pc side of things is a huge mess of poor compatability, bad performance, buggy texture loading, etc. Not to mention that it still looks like consolized ass even when it does run properly.

Hell even the consoles are getting some texture issues. WTF

The only thing they've done is sacrifice real-time lighting to get the game to run at 60 fps on the consoles. That is your huge achievement? What a fucking joke.

Time to retire Carmack.

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kalston | - Reply to #185

"The pc side of things is a huge mess of poor compatability, bad performance, buggy texture loading, etc"

It isn't, even with old nVidia cards. ATI is the one to blame for still not supporting OpenGL properly in fucking 2011.

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #228

the main issue with ati cards, is rage not detecting the amount of memory that the card has, reporting it as 0mb, if you tell RAGE how much memory the game can use almost it solves these texture popping problems, to fully solve it do this combined with the RAGE driver ati released. in the video on #24 the user posted some annotations on thee video saying that all problems are gone.

<< Comment #267 @ 14:03 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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previous_username + - Reply to #185

this should be post 1. and closed after.

<< Comment #186 @ 20:09 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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boenk '

i really want to play borderlands 2 right now

<< Comment #188 @ 20:35 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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kapca '

Just like how it was with black-ops, no demo and the unreliable reviewers all gave it a high score, but after the release the costumers see things entirely differently:((

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rage

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comrade ++' - Reply to #188

nice

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mefajpE^ ++:

Running on id tech 5

Edited by mefajpE^ at 21:41 BST, 5 October 2011

50%

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++

the fact that users do not appreciate rage does not make me worry -did the same users not like doom3, saying that the SP was awesome and the deathmatch was shit -when in fact exactly the opposite was true?
c'mon id software, fix the goddamn texture bugs and we're ready to kill'em all on the vast planes of eternity =p

ed: from what I've seen the fps part of the game is great, only graphics (thanks to drivers/errors whatever) and the racing part are not so good
don't you find funny people how esr users rage exactly on the issues they don't actually care about?

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 22:05 BST, 5 October 2011

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kapca '

high picmip:D --> +vt_maxPPF 1

Edited by kapca at 22:48 BST, 5 October 2011

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #197

ez stuff /o\ what were they thinking, lack of vsync option relying on some obscure external settings doesnt sounds user friendly at all.

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Swelt - Reply to #211

I remember watching an interview with Carmack in which he described how pleased he was that they had gotten the graphics vendors to add a driver extension which they had developed. He went on to describe that automatic vsync feature. But come release, it turns out that the drivers don't support that extension yet.

The extension is supposed to be a win/win - you get the smooth look of vsync when you are reaching 60hz, but if your fps dips then the system is allowed to tear rather than have the framerate dip massively. No doubt in a few weeks, the drivers will catch up, and in a few months other games will start using this innovation and we'll all benefit from id breaking some new ground.

Edited by Swelt at 10:24 BST, 6 October 2011

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #229

Sounds nice, if id is willing to trade some percentage of Rage reputation to push new technology. I would release it like with the classic vsync option, and as an advanced feature, a checkbox for what you describe, which remains grayed out in case drivers dont support it or vsync isnt enabled at all. Doom3 was their most succesful game, im sure part of it was the highly compatible out of the box state of the game.

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 14:33 BST, 6 October 2011

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Swelt - Reply to #269

I'm sure in hindsight they are kicking themselves for not having this kind of thing in the UI. Having vsync on/off/'adaptive', having options to control some of the texture sizes, etc. But at least these things can be set in configs etc (good old r_swapinterval still seems to be there).

<< Comment #198 @ 22:53 BST, 5 October 2011 >>

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hello_world ++++:

Forgive me for not reading anything in this post. Is Rage the next Brink? Imminent failure?

<< Comment #199 @ 00:09 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #198

nah i'd say the next daikatana

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sk4ut + - Reply to #198

Cannot find BRINK here:

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

And RAGE numbers are more and more promising.

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kapca ' - Reply to #201

8000 at peak on the second day in the US, that's pretty bad tbh, dunno how much steam keeps from the $60, but it's doesn't really matter because they probably only sold about 10k copies on steam.
Let's hope EU will do better.

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twister_ ++++: - Reply to #202

does that track single player as well as multiplayer?

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vedic +' - Reply to #207

That's if you are playing the game at all.

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dansen + - Reply to #202

wasn't it released on consoles aswell?

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kapca ' - Reply to #438

The Ps3 and the Pc uses steamworks, so those are the right numbers, but we wont have any info on the xbox360 figures I'm affraid.

I think they didn't sell 100k copies worldwide:(

Edited by kapca at 23:20 BST, 11 October 2011

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AnthonyJ ' - Reply to #439

Where did you get the info that the ps3 version is using steam? As far as I can see it isn't, so those numbers are pc only stats.

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kapca ' - Reply to #442

have no idea where I red it, not true?

<< Comment #445 @ 12:11 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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AnthonyJ ' - Reply to #443

Not afaik.

Certainly there is no reference to Steam in the ps3 manual / box. I haven't signed in with my steam username / password anywhere, so it certainly isn't associated with my Steam profile.

<< Comment #446 @ 12:14 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #445

I'm sorry, my mistake then:( But I remember reading this guess the same place where #305 red it. Well at least this means id sold more copies which is great news:)

<< Comment #200 @ 00:16 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #198

Cannot find BRINK here:

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

And RAGE numbers are more and more promising.

<< Comment #208 @ 01:13 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Raist ++|

hmm so it comes with default picmip 5, whats so bad about that?

<< Comment #209 @ 02:15 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #208

picmip isnt QL picmip, it is the bump and spec levels like in quakewars, in Q4 bump/spec/detail is 0-> 1024, in quakewars it is picmip -5>5

<< Comment #213 @ 04:19 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Have an i7-920 (old ino, but still good), 12gb ram, ATI 4850 & Windows 7 64.

Runs fine (looks fine) after tweaking/drivers. Ran badly prior to tweaking.

If you have a relatively recent video card and a decent processor you should be fine (but it will probably take some tweaking).

The actual gameplay is a lot more interesting than I thought it would be. I see potential in the multiplayer. Strafe jumping? Yup. It also appears there are some odd things you can do with double jumps that I haven't exactly mastered yet.

The weapons seem more interesting than MW2 and company (especially like the throwing weapon w/e it's called) and the overall pace is quite fast. Also it's not a one shot = dead type of game unless you score a head shot (which seems oddly difficult to do, I suspect there are some hitbox issues).

<< Comment #224 @ 09:53 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #213

The game runs and looks fine on a nVidia card without tweaking, and even with an old CPU.

<< Comment #212 @ 04:11 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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fragmaster_ +|

where the hell do i buy ammo in wellspring? i though it was mick's garage but i can't even talk to him. been going back and forth to hagar's territory to buy ammo but that trip is getting old.

<< Comment #214 @ 06:19 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Badb0y +|

to talk about a id software game here makes no sense for me anymore. now all the id haters live here. some are born here.

<< Comment #215 @ 08:26 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #214

WRONG, imo probably most of the people here care about id software. I don't see why it's wrong to be disappointed when you expect a game after 5 years, but all you get is an amazingly beautiful tech demo with an awesome control and some cool weaponry.
I also don't think our expectation were too high when we expected something well polished on the PC.
We are the people who ask questions like "how" or "why", who gets frustrated or sad when RAGE fails, because we care.

<< Comment #259 @ 13:01 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #215

quake 3 was built to show idtech5, same with quake1

<< Comment #270 @ 14:36 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #259

lolwut?

<< Comment #275 @ 14:51 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #270

i meant:
quake 3 was built to show idtech3, as quake 1 was built to show idtech1.

I don't know in what i was thinking when i wrote that, lol

<< Comment #286 @ 17:04 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Demiurge ++ - Reply to #275

wrong again, doom3 is idtech3, quake3 is idtech2

<< Comment #291 @ 17:29 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #286

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_4

<< Comment #299 @ 18:24 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Demiurge ++ - Reply to #291

thanks

<< Comment #305 @ 19:01 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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annihiluzz +| - Reply to #299

do some research before u post, moron

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Demiurge ++ - Reply to #305

k boss

<< Comment #309 @ 19:38 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Demiurge ++ - Reply to #291

your post is invalid because wikipedia is user editable

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kalston | - Reply to #309

rofl

<< Comment #314 @ 20:07 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #309

Troll on.

<< Comment #336 @ 23:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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faerie_ ++++ - Reply to #314

Decent point though.

<< Comment #222 @ 09:31 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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raithza '

preordered today for xbox. figured it's about time i give id some of my money.

<< Comment #225 @ 10:01 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston |

Don't bash id when it's ATI who's been completely retarded about OpenGL for years, please. It looks like they stopped caring about it because there weren't enough games using it or something. In any case, you don't buy an ATI card when you care about OpenGL unless you're clueless/looking for trouble.

All you need for this game is a nVidia GPU with CUDA, and then enabling "GPU transcoding" in the menu. I wouldn't be surprised if the game was playable at 60fps without AA on a 8800 GT or something.

The gameplay is not bad at all and the mouse input is fine too once you disable the smoothing and accel, which is so fucking rare these days.

Edited by kalston at 10:03 BST, 6 October 2011

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #225

My problem is, why should we have to do this shit to get a game to work properly? I would understand if it's a very small percentage having problems... but it's not.

And it's not just ATI.

<< Comment #234 @ 10:36 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut + - Reply to #231

Because we are Quake players and we doing it for last 10 years straight?

<< Comment #238 @ 10:45 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #234

Totally different :)

<< Comment #236 @ 10:37 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #231

Do what shit? On my nVidia I started the game, ticked the only graphical setting in the menu (GPU transcoding) and it was flawless. I then made an autoexec to remove smoothing and accel but that's just personal preference. Using the latest stable drivers, not the beta shite.

The immense majority of the people having issues are ATI users, which is normal, nVidia users having issues probably have other problems to start with.

Edited by kalston at 10:43 BST, 6 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #236

I honestly can't care less about texture bugs, all I care about is control and gameplay , (I play shitty graphics SEGA and NINTENDO games every week, and I don't mind the look of those at all), and while the artists in RAGE did an unbelievably amazing work, the weps and the control is also pretty much flawless,the gameplay is where I see the problem and what matters to me the most. But ..........

blaming all the problems, crashes, technical issues on graphics drivers is a very very very weak excuse imho.

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kalston | - Reply to #239

But how can you blame the game when it runs flawlessly on old nVidia cards and barely runs at all on recent ATI ones?

You can blame the devs for cooperating with nVidia only, sure, but then again, ATI clearly despises OpenGL so it might be hard to work with them...

Edited by kalston at 10:57 BST, 6 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #240

If there are a large portion of you costumers using ATI cards, it's your duty to make it work no matter what. And that's still stands even if you don't see them as gamers who are pre-ordered and waiting very excited for your game, you should still see them as costumers at least.
Or do you think this is all normal with an AAA title developed for 5 years, and all the gamers who paid $60 and can't play should just shut the fuck up?

edit: and FYI: I have a C2D CPU with a g92 GPU, and while it runs fluid 60fps without any problems, I have more blurry playstation1 like textures than what I had with Borderlands... but as I already said: I don't mind that at all, if I could, I would put the game to picmip 100 for sure:D

Edited by kapca at 11:20 BST, 6 October 2011

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kalston | - Reply to #242

Of course but it's not just the devs that have to make the game work on a specific video card, it's also the guys making the video drivers that have to adapt. And ATI has been lagging behind nVidia for so long on the OpenGL side of things that id might not have wanted to wait much longer to release the game.

You can't say for sure that it's only id's fault, or only ATI's fault, but seeing how ATI despises OpenGL, I think they are more to blame than id (that's just my opinion, if you think id is more to blame that's fine since it's not like we can prove anything)

<< Comment #249 @ 11:46 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #245

I don't think you understand this situation, if you have an older ATI card, it doesn't work with most of the old ATI drivers as well... This means it doesn't work with 1 year old drivers too, id had plenty of time to make it work with those drivers (and "work" here only means it should not crash or trash the screen).
I can accept if some new driver breaks some (or just this one) games, but there is no excuse for not working with any kind of ATI driver available for months or even years.

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kalston | - Reply to #249

I understand the situation very well.

What if the game needs some stuff that isn't in the ATI drivers and has never ever been in them? Drivers can add major features (even on old hardware) after all, like the FXAA that was added in the nVidia drivers not too long ago for example.

So in this case it would be ATI's fault for not doing it on time.

Edited by kalston at 12:11 BST, 6 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #252

No you don't understand:p
Even if we can agree that ATI sucks hard on opengl, you can't release a game like this. It's a game released for the pc-gamers and not a nvidia exclusive title.
You have to make it work somehow, you call other lower opengl functions, or make a shitty slow workaround if there is an ATI card detected, dunno and I don't really care how you do it tbh, but you just can't release a game like this and blame it all on the drivers imo.:)

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kalston | - Reply to #261

"You have to make it work somehow" well isn't that when they have done, since the game runs bad but still runs?
You can't really expect the game to work flawlessly if it requires things ATI lacks. Don't get me wrong, it probably could work very well on ATI, but that would mean possibly a lot of work and maybe id couldn't be bothered or they trusted ATI driver coders. Who knows?

I know there are crashes too but that can also be caused by faulty hardware and bloated windows installs or whatever, I mean it's harder to say where the problem lies when someone posts on a forum saying his game crashes.

<< Comment #271 @ 14:39 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #264

well i hope I don't have to be your customer, ever:p xD

<< Comment #387 @ 22:46 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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Anonymous (96.54.58.90) - Reply to #264

The game runs perfectly fine on my 4850. I get why people were annoyed, but it wasn't that hard to fix and folks seem to be acting like it still doesn't work properly.

<< Comment #243 @ 11:11 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #240

We can blame the game/id because from a business
perspective it makes NO SENSE to release a game
of which they know it does not work well on half the consumer hardware out there.

That is an amazing way to alienate half the market from any
future releases you make. Even if they do work flawlessly then.

<< Comment #247 @ 11:26 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #243

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2163280#pid2163280

<< Comment #253 @ 12:15 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #247

I read it before. Still does not change a thing.

If you develop a game on a tech you know for a fact half the market
won't be able to use properly out of the box you're one of 2 things

a) Incredibly confident in that tech per se and basically telling the hardware devs to fuck off and get with the program.

or

b) Incredibly stupid. In a way it's blasphemy but i'm beginning to suspect Carmack just does not know how to do engines that don't rely so heavily on opengl.

<< Comment #254 @ 12:21 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #253

openGL is the only cross platform graphics library, it can be included in all hardware without a licence as a subsystem on consoles

nintendo is bollox and having their own basic crap renderer code to continue with games like zelda on every console, when they just could use openGL on their next gen console, along wiht playstation, while xbox has directx 11 and openGL as a subsystem

<< Comment #255 @ 12:24 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #254

I know that, still does not matter when huge companies like amd-ti don't properly support it

<< Comment #256 @ 12:31 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #255

so why buy ati cards if you know they wont do a complete job, sells hit rock bottom they have no choice buy to take their head out their ass

<< Comment #262 @ 13:14 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #256

I buy it because ally my old nvidia cards (oddly enough) die right after their warranty goes void.

<< Comment #281 @ 15:00 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #262

that is the beauty of engineering, one can define when something is most likely to fail.

<< Comment #285 @ 16:31 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #281

sounds like shit, cards will live forever unless the fans goes on them, and you have`nt noticed, cos you box is shit and you have`nt cleaned all the dust and spiders out for months

<< Comment #307 @ 19:20 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #285

all my ati card are still alive 9250 9600pro x850xt PE HD3850 HD4770 and HD6970. I keep my computers clean.

<< Comment #317 @ 20:09 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #307

dust just makes them abit warmer, people can goto the cubboards and dig out the voodoo banshee and tnt2 ultra and it will still work after 10 yrs of being their without not protection or in a static bag or anything

Edited by p0rt at 20:10 BST, 6 October 2011

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Demiurge ++ - Reply to #262

that's weird, i never had an nvidia card die on me, and I've been buying them since riva tnt. in fact, i can't even imagine how a perfectly working chip would just die? i did have to replace fans a few times, but that's some elses fault

<< Comment #276 @ 14:53 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #243

True

<< Comment #241 @ 11:00 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #236

Tweak files settings, use beta drivers etc, having to search the net for answers.

Ok we get it worked fine for you and "majority" of nvidia users. Still doesn't change the fact there's ALOT of other people having problems.

<< Comment #244 @ 11:18 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #241

ati drivers need .NET, ati cannot code and have drivers coded by them and optimized for ati hardware... ati drivers are using some class some random MS employee coded during lunch to access openGL, cos MS only care for directx

Edited by p0rt at 11:19 BST, 6 October 2011

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<< Comment #246 @ 11:26 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #244

haha, there's some truth in this

<< Comment #248 @ 11:30 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #246

its why new xboxs` have ati cards

<< Comment #344 @ 03:09 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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Anonymous (205.250.155.71) - Reply to #241

With a few minor tweaks ATI folks aren't having problems either.

It runs fine on my 4850 (1gb).

<< Comment #292 @ 17:30 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #225

id are the only ones using OpenGL, and their games have been lackluster anyway.

<< Comment #296 @ 17:46 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #292

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbreeze_Studios

They use OpenGL too (at least in the original Riddick: Escape from Butcher bay and the remake + Assault on Dark Athena). Those two are great games as well.

Edited by kalston at 17:48 BST, 6 October 2011

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vedic +' - Reply to #296

Yeah, there are a handful here and there, but they are noname developers for small time games - generally games that performance issues wouldn't be a problem for due to lesser requirements to begin with.

<< Comment #346 @ 13:24 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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wolf1e - Reply to #292

Don't know why game industries use directx, it's crappy api and not portable, you write the same thing with half of the code in opengl.
Also directx only used in games, opengl is used in all proffesional graphics applications.

Edited by wolf1e at 13:26 BST, 7 October 2011

<< Comment #351 @ 17:59 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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kalston | - Reply to #346

I really wish more games were coded in OpenGL (and not just because I have a nVidia card), it would make linux much more usable for me too.

<< Comment #379 @ 16:10 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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wolf1e - Reply to #351

wintendo only for games

<< Comment #260 @ 13:02 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt

pre order the shit before 7th of october and you get a free upgrade to the anarchy edition that adds a doubtle barrel shotgun n shit

http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/31963-r...e-upgrade/

yeah, WTFUx00rZ

<< Comment #263 @ 13:17 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #260

That is kinda lol

I don't understand how a huge company like zenimax can sink to such low tactics for a few more bucks.

Let alone how the once proud id software would comply with it.

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p0rt - Reply to #263

should just be the original retail version. anarchy gives you FFA and CTF and dedicated servers, probaly a armor attachment joint on players back to stick a flag on trace some bounds

save you all paypal me some wonga for a PC that worx and i add them if SDK is released

Edited by p0rt at 13:57 BST, 6 October 2011

<< Comment #273 @ 14:46 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #263

I dont consider that as low tactics, bussines change, shareware died, microtransactions are hot, etc.

<< Comment #282 @ 15:10 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #273

it is if the game hasnt even been released, preorder before and you get your hat or mug, not an updated edition, that will be inthe shops in 4months time for everyone who dont preorder

<< Comment #266 @ 14:00 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kapca '

http://www.geforce.com/News/articles/how-to-u...ple-tweaks

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<< Comment #272 @ 14:44 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #266

I'm prolly going blind but i can't see the difference

Or maybe it's a level

Edit: yes i can now see some slight improvements, but who really notices that in game

Edited by eri at 14:46 BST, 6 October 2011

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #272

Totally blind id say, the difference is abysmal.

<< Comment #277 @ 14:53 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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eri +| - Reply to #274

If that's horryfying to you you've obv never played old school pc games

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #277

Started with doom1 shareware when i got my first rig, a 486 dx2-66, as a whole pong was my first game, in a friends house when i was like 4 or 5, man those where high res gfx, but thats a lot of zzz we where on the issue of how crisper textures look by applying what kapca linked...

<< Comment #279 @ 14:55 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #272

it's even animated, but only you can tell if that's important for you or not::

http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/im...imated.gif

<< Comment #332 @ 22:30 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #279

the irony is impressive using a 256 color gif and not a png to show you the quality of hires textures

http://www.geforce.com/Active/en_US/shared/im...ison8K.png

Edited by p0rt at 22:35 BST, 6 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #332

you right, but the world in RAGE looks really nice when the full detail is loaded, the artists did a very good job imo.

<< Comment #367 @ 07:21 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #348

are you one of those artists?

<< Comment #377 @ 12:54 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #367

No, I'm a nobody from the other side of the rock who just appreciates their work, that's all.

ps.: oh and btw, I like Quakelive!

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raythenoob - Reply to #377

dont' tell vedic that... O.o

<< Comment #287 @ 17:10 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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kalston |

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/06/rage-pc-review/

<< Comment #297 @ 17:53 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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skint ++|

See what the number of sales on the consoles ends up being. I know most of you don't give a shit but it's still relevant and not just the number of steam players.

<< Comment #304 @ 18:59 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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vedic +' - Reply to #297

Isn't the game steamworks? I believe it all uses steam.

<< Comment #300 @ 18:38 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Omni

http://i.imgur.com/UoJ0r.jpg

<< Comment #308 @ 19:22 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #300

that has nothing to do with the game engine -.-. it is like people saying cryengine 3 sucks because of how crysis 2 looks like. It is the geometry and texture quality ffs. not the engine itself.

<< Comment #320 @ 21:13 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #308

It says progress of the gaming industry, not of the engine industry. Not that i fully agree. Shocking image tho.

<< Comment #326 @ 22:23 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #320

blame consoles for that...

<< Comment #322 @ 21:21 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Omni - Reply to #308

engine? I didnt say anything about engine tech just showing the texture quality.
Please point out what you dont understand about that picture.

<< Comment #327 @ 22:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #328 @ 22:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #329 @ 22:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #330 @ 22:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #331 @ 22:27 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #355 @ 20:06 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #331

how the fuck this happened?

<< Comment #342 @ 01:55 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #353 @ 19:16 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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Allancer - Reply to #322

Carmack took the best of what consoles can do. he is not the one to blame. consoles just have ridiculously low amounts of memory... Also he said that there will be an hi res texture pack for pc.

<< Comment #321 @ 21:21 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Toin Coss - Reply to #300

blame the consoles

<< Comment #323 @ 21:23 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Omni - Reply to #321

Yeah let over use that phase for everything.

<< Comment #335 @ 23:04 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Toin Coss - Reply to #323

More like let's use that phrase where ever it's applicable aka here.

<< Comment #324 @ 22:13 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #321

you cannot blame nothing, rage textures just use a lower normal map settings on images, or bump picmip is -5 in the rage screenshot

<< Comment #337 @ 23:44 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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Omni - Reply to #324

Screenshot is what it is and compared to other new games today Rage textures is a joke and then putting the size of the game in perspective.
Something isn't adding up.

<< Comment #340 @ 01:28 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #337

comparing rage to doom 3 is worthless, that texture effect is what idtech4 bumpmapping is, and all depends on the size of the normal map settings, and bump image size in config file which in rage is picmip like quakewars, and the bump effect also depends on the brightness of the specular map

quake 4 normal maps are too big and specular maps way to bright and most of the game just looks shit, and alot of "yellow conrete" looking white

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Omni - Reply to #340

I don't care about the megatexture crap cause its clearly shit and so are the details in the game that why I am comparing it to something that was made years ago.
Its fun that other games looks good and the details also looks good and they are half the size of what id just pushed out.

I've tried Rage on a GTX 285 and GTX 560 and it looks the same with the details and everything set right in the config.

But w/e id tech5 is worse that unreal's engine. If tech5 was made a 3-4 years ago it would be good but its just not.

<< Comment #352 @ 18:13 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #347

the default megatexture settings are shit, if you have quakewars, use the settings in the post near the top, and megatextures will be perfect if you have 1gb of spare RAM

Edited by p0rt at 18:13 BST, 7 October 2011

<< Comment #325 @ 22:14 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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comrade ++' - Reply to #300

Choice of font leaves much to be desired.

<< Comment #338 @ 00:10 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #300

Have you tried it with the high res textures settings?

<< Comment #339 @ 01:08 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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Omni - Reply to #338

yea everything maxed out, everything looks good as long you don't look to close at it.

<< Comment #447 @ 12:28 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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nemecel ++' - Reply to #300

That's a high resolution pack made by someone and not the original Doom 3 textures.

<< Comment #334 @ 22:48 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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jamalz '

Looks good.

<< Comment #345 @ 05:53 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #334

""So Rage is the latest shiat by id, it hasn't put out a shooter in a long time, unless you count quake live, AND I DONT,""
@0:45 seconds in video

lol?

Edited by raythenoob at 07:19 BST, 8 October 2011

<< Comment #354 @ 19:34 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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kapca ' - Reply to #345

UNLOL?

<< Comment #378 @ 13:26 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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Liam + - Reply to #334

Stop pasting videos of that fucking idiot, who the fuck calls themself the "cynical brit"?

<< Comment #333 @ 22:45 BST, 6 October 2011 >>

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p0rt

Ragemapping.com launched..... should of used null nuke, replace while ya can

Edited by p0rt at 22:46 BST, 6 October 2011

<< Comment #341 @ 01:33 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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Sun Tzu +

Look like an id version of Fallout

<< Comment #343 @ 02:24 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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pks

It's $49.99 in a few stores already, no way it priced dropped this soon?

Edited by pks at 02:25 BST, 7 October 2011

<< Comment #349 @ 14:46 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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murph +:

game is awesome. go fuck yourself, haters.

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<< Comment #370 @ 09:50 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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Six16 ++ - Reply to #349

how good is multiplayer?

<< Comment #371 @ 09:58 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #370

i haven't played it, but it looks to be more 'racing' than anything. I'm waiting for an update due to some issues with game crashing. The single player is a good 30 hours if you do everything in one play through, the story is probably about 15-20 hours or so.

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kalston | - Reply to #371

There is a coop mode too, slightly different missions than in SP.

My mates don't have Rage yet so I'll wait a bit before trying it (not interested in the racing mode at all)

I really think DM/TDM/CTF could be fun in this game tbh.

Edited by kalston at 10:51 BST, 8 October 2011

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murph +: - Reply to #374

the racing is fun, but the COOP is way better. there's about 7 or 8 maps and we played on NIGHTMARE. It's quite a challenge! Alas, there is not DM or CTF which i thought was surprising. Otherwise, the online isn't bad at all.

<< Comment #390 @ 23:47 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #388

Alas, there is not DM or CTF which i thought was surprising.

so the multiplayer games consist of racing and co-op missions? yawn

<< Comment #395 @ 06:58 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #390

yep. it's actually a good time. try it. i don't know what you expected... a definitive dm game??? Although, the formula could be introduced to this game. It has certain movement controls that could make for an interesting dm game.... don't rule it out with future updates.

<< Comment #458 @ 19:43 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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amjw +' - Reply to #371

'game is awesome'

'i haven't played it'

k

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<< Comment #491 @ 03:21 BST, 16 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #458

did you read the comments or are you just slow? I'm guessing you are one of those mongoloids that drool all over themselves when they get excited....

<< Comment #350 @ 16:30 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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flake^ '

Get rid of this megatexture bollocks please Carmack.

Its only useful on something like a flight sim where we see a shit load of terrain from high up!

<< Comment #356 @ 20:10 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #350

the game looks really good, lightning is good, movement is great. just get parallax occlusion mapping on this game and it will look out of this world. The things is that pc is using the console textures, but iirc carmack said that there will be a texture patch for pc smth like 10gb.

<< Comment #357 @ 21:00 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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wocK_ '

Fuck off iD

We are through.

<< Comment #359 @ 21:05 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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illwill_

returned my copy over steam for credit and ordered skyrim instead. at least that game will work (hopefully)

<< Comment #360 @ 21:49 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #359

You cant be bothered about installing a driver and downloading a cfg so that the game will run properly?
i know this should not happen but anyway...

<< Comment #363 @ 00:50 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #360

i've already done everything that could be done on my end. in fact i just tried the pirated version WITH the ati drivers released today WITH a mid-range config from the steam forums. i'm no newb bro i know how to fucking read forums. it doesn't work for me. i had to install different drivers 3 times and it's still shit.

<< Comment #369 @ 09:40 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #363

Well, it works great i can only see the textures popping for 1s just after loading a saved game, then it runs like a dream and looks great... do you have and hd4k series gpu or lower?

<< Comment #394 @ 04:23 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #369

ati 5850 and e8400 cpu. i turned on the fps counter in ati tray tools and it goes from normal fps to 2. can't even make a 90 degree turn

<< Comment #398 @ 11:08 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #394

well your cpu is the one to blame, i have a friend with a 5850 and runs it maxed out butter smooth, on a PII 1100T...

vt_maxPPF

vt_maxPPF controls the maximum number of texture pages the engine will try to transcode in a frame. The default value is 128, which is also the max. For reference, those 128 texture pages are the equivalent of a texture 2048x1024 in size. The challenge is that the transcode �work� lives as jobs, and if too many are submitted in a single frame it might be two or more frames before they complete. If the CPU is too slow this can cause a delay between the jobs being submitted and completed, thereby making the pop-in worse.

The ideal situation is where the engine manages to submit and complete a set of jobs every frame. If your CPU isn�t fast enough, reducing the pages per frame (vt_maxPPF) or turning on GPU Transcode can help. Reducing the pages per frame prevents missed frames by reducing the workload, and turning on GPU Transcode reduces the CPU load per page. Working together, the texture streaming problems are reduced greatly, if not eliminated.

Bethesda and id Software recommend that users experiencing texture streaming issues add vt_maxPPF 16 to their rageconfig.cfg in an attempt to alleviate these issues, or vt_maxPPF 8 if the system being used only has a Dual Core CPU.

If these values do not improve the texture streaming performance consider lowering the Anti-Aliasing setting in the in-game options menu. For example, you may observe slow texture streaming at high resolutions such as 2500x1600 with Anti-Aliasing set to 16X. In some cases lowering the level of Anti-Aliasing to 8X fixes the problem in concert with the above changes, but lowering settings further may also be required. Alternatively, or in addition, you can lower the resolution.

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illwill_ - Reply to #398

actually the problem is this

- If you have an AMD graphics card with a dual core CPU system you may
experience severe hitching and low frame rates. This has been
identified as a driver problem. We are actively working with AMD on
a solution to this problem. As a temporary workaround you may add the
following to the RAGE launch options in Steam:

+jobs_numThreads 0

game's still a piece of shit but i'll try the pirated version later with the new patch

<< Comment #402 @ 12:51 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #401

so the game is a piece of shit because of the ati drivers combined with old cpus?
I have been playing the game and it is an awesome game.

<< Comment #403 @ 13:04 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #402

give the id fanboyism a rest please. the majority of people who tried to play it on launch had problems with both nvidia and amd. IT IS A PIECE OF SHIT end of story. if there are driver problems it's id's own fault to sort it out beforehand. ever heard of testing?
even if there were no performance problems the game isn't worth $60. less than 10 hours gameplay for the campaign and maybe 4 hours for the co-op for what is clearly a console port without much thought given to pc users. if you like the game, that's fine. but you know it is underwhelming considering what we got for the development time and the price.

<< Comment #405 @ 13:38 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #403

people with ati had problems because ati posted the wrong driver for RAGE, yes that has happened. People with nvidias just needed to turn that cuda option on. 10h of game play, more like 16... About the co op i have not tried it yet. those 7 years include engine development, which as built from scratch. well i am more of a crytek lover...

and I love the game. if you think it is shit, im ok with that.

<< Comment #365 @ 07:17 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #360

what is it with the mentality of you id fanboys. why would anyone buy something that doens't work to then put in 100's of hours in some cases to figure out how to get it to work... Some things should just work from the beginning otherwise we'd all be buying used products at discount prices.

<< Comment #368 @ 09:34 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++: - Reply to #365

i have it running flawlessly on my computer, and i have an AMD build.

<< Comment #389 @ 22:58 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #368

I also have an AMD build, and it works FINE. Yes it needs a patch, but what game doesn't? Otherwise it's fine

<< Comment #362 @ 23:56 BST, 7 October 2011 >>

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vedic +'

�We do not see the PC as the leading platform for games,� said John Carmack, as he explained the company�s reasons for focusing Rage�s development on consoles.

"That statement will enrage some people, but it is hard to characterize it otherwise; both console versions will have larger audiences than the PC version. A high end PC is nearly 10 times as powerful as a console, and we could unquestionably provide a better experience if we chose that as our design point and we were able to expend the same amount of resources on it. Nowadays most of the quality of a game comes from the development effort put into it, not the technology it runs on. A game built with a tenth the resources on a platform 10 times as powerful would be an inferior product in almost all cases."

http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/3215/artic...n-carmack/

So basically, id are tired of failing to meet the criteria of a good PC game, and they'd rather just appeal to the lowest common denominator.

<< Comment #366 @ 07:18 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #362

nothing new there, he already hinted towards that at quakecon.

<< Comment #393 @ 04:00 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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nemecel ++' - Reply to #362

RIP id

<< Comment #364 @ 06:08 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++'

Lastest preview ATI drivers http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/pages/gp...verv2.aspx

<< Comment #372 @ 09:59 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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kenZu '

Hey,

I saw all the Rageconfig.cfg thing.
But I can't get it work; since I do not have Steam.

I tried to put it into Rage\base, in the Users\Local ect
I also tried to create the steam folder and adding +seta commands directly after rage.exe in the shortcut... can't get the console worked.

Does someone know how can I do it ? Thx

<< Comment #399 @ 12:27 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #372

verify the correct name of the cfg file
name might be "[space]rageconfig.cfg" instead "rageconfig.cfg"

<< Comment #373 @ 10:47 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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asyyy +++|

no demo = no potential purchase

<< Comment #375 @ 11:58 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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kg ' - Reply to #373

There should be a demo up on piratebay.

<< Comment #376 @ 12:31 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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asyyy +++| - Reply to #375

Even the rip is 12gb, no thanks.

<< Comment #380 @ 16:39 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #376

not if you convert most non alpha tga to jpg, and delete all dds images, and compress it using 7zip, then run a bat file after unpacking to convert jpg to tga and dds images

7z needs arhive splitting first before it takes over the warez

Edited by p0rt at 16:40 BST, 8 October 2011

<< Comment #381 @ 16:52 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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asyyy +++| - Reply to #380

Yea a good rip would be much smaller.. the one on tpb has only multiplayer and additional languages removed, no extra compression at all it seems.

I'll just wait 4 weeks and if people still go crazy about that game I'll have a second look.

<< Comment #382 @ 17:11 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #381

best to go back to the 90s, and kill every file with uharc 0,4 or 0.6 and pure dos archiver, if not using 7z

no1 downloaded a whole cd with your dialup modem, repack teh game oldskool

Edited by p0rt at 17:29 BST, 8 October 2011

<< Comment #383 @ 18:15 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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asyyy +++| - Reply to #382

download them on 56k and share them on lans, good times..

<< Comment #384 @ 19:53 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #383

id mistake of pk* just being zip files with a different extension

need to include mp32wav for the random wav files and ogg, and all other random junk audio types in a idtech game

<< Comment #385 @ 20:03 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #384

idtech5 should http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html with idheaders so need a released id app to open them, or until someones hacks it init

<< Comment #391 @ 03:51 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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nemecel ++' - Reply to #382

Yeah they used to put real work on rips. I remember downloading the Doom 3 e3 leaked alpha back in around 2002. UHARC real hard.

<< Comment #386 @ 21:34 BST, 8 October 2011 >>

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fragmaster_ +|

i just arrived in subway-town. i like the game so far. the graphics might not be perfect but the gameplay is great imo.

that prison-level was good fun.

<< Comment #392 @ 03:54 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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nemecel ++'

Afaik, DOOM4 will be pushing the idTech 5 to the limits, to the point it will not even look like the same engine at all (Carmack said). Let's see what happens, I see a potential ruinnage by consoles as always at this point.

<< Comment #396 @ 07:00 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #392

as long as DOOM4 is dev'd FOR PC first... t will own hard. this game uses the t5 engine excellent. too bad they developed for consoles first.

<< Comment #397 @ 07:01 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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murph +: - Reply to #392

btw u double posted.

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #397

u double posted

<< Comment #404 @ 13:35 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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kapca '

They probably sold less than 20k copies on steam worldwide (16k is the max peak for days now) ... and apparently, not many of those players are really into the game:(

<< Comment #406 @ 13:51 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #404

steam sucks ass hard, and not worth using if you can get a game else where without needing a account to play the thing

steam stats always get posted on all games, millions of people dont care the it

better off with direct2drive or wherever, and play the game offline or whenever you want

Edited by p0rt at 13:54 BST, 9 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #406

I think RAGE uses steamworks, so no other option for PC and PS3 users (dunno about xb360)

<< Comment #408 @ 14:19 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #407

its why it fails along with many games

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smari ++: - Reply to #404

16k is the number of concurrent players. You need to sell much more than 20k copies to get 16k concurrent players.
But yeah it's certainly dissapointing for id that more people are playing civ5 at the moment than Rage.

Edited by smari at 14:37 BST, 9 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #410

Yes I know, that's why I said ~20k.

edit: well, I red a stat analysis about steam somewhere a couple of years ago, that in the first few days after the release, peak numbers = 70-80% of the owners.

Edited by kapca at 14:46 BST, 9 October 2011

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vedic +' - Reply to #411

That seems a little conservative, but I'd like to see the source to that either way.

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kapca ' - Reply to #418

Me too tbh, I already tried to find it, but it was in L4D-1 times and I just can't remember or google it up:(

<< Comment #409 @ 14:27 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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skint ++|

I've rented it for the ps3 and not played very far into it yet but the shooting sections are fun.

As for the tech side the graphics are gorgeous and runs really smooth, the sound is really nice too playing it through the surround sound system. The ps3 version comes on one bluray and installs stuff to the hdd automatically however there is a fair bit of texture loading still although I'd prefer to have that and it running smoother. The strange thing is my house mate rented it for the xbox360 which came on 3 DVDs and the install was optional (he installed it) and this version has hardly any texture loading on screen at all, not really even noticeable when playing.

I'd love to see it running on a high end pc when they release the texture pack that people are talking about.

<< Comment #433 @ 01:43 BST, 11 October 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #409

The Xbox version has a full 22gb install, PS3 only installs 8gb and blurays are slower for streaming data.

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skint ++| - Reply to #433

Yeah I did wonder that, there is virtually nothing on the xbox version.

<< Comment #414 @ 15:21 BST, 9 October 2011 >>

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HamstaHue '

I played it a little bit and like it so far. It's mostly focused around the action to that suits me. I'm really happy it's not open world, I find open world games tend to be really boring and slow. I like my game experience to be crafted rather than "too" exploratory.

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peterg +

Seems like the tech is more suited to a racing game where you never turn around and never get close to anything. Just like Doom 3 tech wasn't suited to hordes of monsters which made Doom not Doom anymore. id reminds me of Metallica, used to be fucking awesome until they got wildly successful then they just don't give a fuck anymore. Can't believe it took them 6 years to make Rage which is about 10 hours long of play and without any compelling multiplayer or coop.

<< Comment #417 @ 06:47 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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megaman3 ++++: - Reply to #416

that's because id has always preferred to have a small development team, which ends in half decade long new title launches

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peterg + - Reply to #417

Wolfenstein 3D (1992)
Spear of Destiny (1992)
Doom (1993)
The Ultimate Doom (1995)
Doom II: Hell on Earth (1994)
Master Levels for Doom II (1995)
Final Doom (1996)
Quake (1996)
id Anthology (1996)
Quake II (1997)
Quake III Arena (1999)

id used to be awesome in the 90s but not anymore. The time between Wolf3D and Q3 is basically the same amount of time it took them to do Rage. I'm also pretty sure more people work there now than ever before.

<< Comment #483 @ 00:12 BST, 15 October 2011 >>

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megaman3 ++++: - Reply to #428

first of all, sorry for the late reply

obviously they were a lot more motivated at that time; I agree with that they became lazy.

Thing is, current games have a lot more content and they need a lot more developing time than those, so did rage for example.
If you need more brute force then the answer can't be to keep the company small, which holds especially true if key employees left the company.

<< Comment #484 @ 00:23 BST, 15 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #483

not really true, idtech1 took 5 or 6 years to code from doom engine..

recoding a whole engine of idtech4-5, is another world if you are trying to make a game at the same time...

rage and idtech5 is the "wow" is kind of all done engine. and dev time for future games should kind of be normal of 3-4 years, with more time spent on content then pissing around trying to make your content work, and making do, for it then to be updated 4 more times

<< Comment #420 @ 12:17 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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eMbAh

Just completed it on Nightmare and apart from the technical difficulties this game is amazing. My favorite level is dead city with the infested hospital. So disgusting, creepy and beautiful and it has the most insane boss as well. I also really enjoyed the races and they have some jaw dropping moments. The blood and explosions looks amazing.

The game to me is like a mishmash of: Starwars episode 1: Podracer, Doom, Black Ops, Myst, World Of Warcraft, Quake, Alien Vs Predator, Portal and probably more that I didn't catch

It's a shame the game wasn't a little longer. I would have been cool with 2 more cities to visit and extra tiers of cars and weapons

<< Comment #422 @ 13:26 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #420

if idtech5 is anything like quakewars which most of the new filesystem probaly is..

you will not actually need to do any code in the driver for new vehicles/weapons/ai, they are all in the def files and a big class instead of using a child class and spawn for each random entity

<< Comment #426 @ 17:49 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #422

In english please :D

<< Comment #427 @ 18:12 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #426

in the sdk of quakewars, each type of entity has 1 single class that is used as the spawnclass in the external .def inside pk4 files with all settings and keys and values set, and a predefined script class type

pre quake wars idtech engines, have a seperate spawnclass for each entity type, which in the sdk that builds into the driver,. "library", needs a child class to act as the entities spawnclass, using virtual void/bool running ontop of the parant class with def files settings key and values in the pk files to setup main settings of the entity

quakewars is 99% idtech5 with less work on the renderer, the file system and driver code is probaly 99% the same, with the main gameplay features of rage coded in the engine, which arnt many of them

if id release a rage SDK, modellers should just be get down and make new vehicles and AI and weapons, with out needing a coder or anyone else, just have to make a def file "script" and pack it with the model to be used in a map

Edited by p0rt at 18:18 BST, 10 October 2011

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tourist | - Reply to #426

so there you have it. any more questions?

<< Comment #430 @ 22:15 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++ - Reply to #422

exactly his thoughts

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p0rt - Reply to #430

modellers are all retards and up their own ass, and wont make any new ai/vehicles/weapons, and wont upload them to random sites to be used in maps, model has a few hundred polys, they try and make you pay for them

they piss around with dots and make a skin and think they own

Edited by p0rt at 05:55 BST, 11 October 2011

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #434

only way i would upload the source of Q43A is if you all give me your monies by clicking on the donate ...

Yet when the shoe is on the other foot you act exactly the same as them and make a fool of youself in the process :)

Edited by Jamerio at 15:28 BST, 12 October 2011

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p0rt - Reply to #448

nope, you have a working release of Q43A and 1000 of patches over the years

you wont even get a model of a water bottle of a modeller for free, or without wanting a essay in credits in the readme file

Q43A is a dead mod, if the engine is released, its all you that run sites and leagues etc and make money, you all have the work todo before any q4 mod is even playable without Q43A source

<< Comment #450 @ 17:04 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #449

"you all have the work todo before any q4 mod is even playable without Q43A source "

Q4 max was used on the pro q4 circuit for the best part of two years where over 1/4 million dollars was won from 05-07.

<< Comment #451 @ 17:18 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #450

q4max is shit, and tweaks abit of code, and changes nothing, and is dead like q4 itself

Q43A takes a massive shit on it, and if you going to use quake 4 engine for a indy game or total conversion mod like warsaw etc.. Q43A has all the recoding and new features that make Q4 engine work and a near complete engine, and all the recoding and clean code give q4 better performance without any changes in a unreleased engine

Edited by p0rt at 17:20 BST, 12 October 2011

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #451

"q4max is shit, and tweaks abit of code, and changes nothing, and is dead like q4 itself"

Quake4max is dead after two successful years, people didn't stop using the mod for mod reason, they stopped because the big money tourneys stopped and the mod was made redundant as a result of that and quakelive.

"Q43A has all the recoding and new features that make Q4 engine work and a near complete engine"

Even if I entertain that and say its true., you didn't deliver it till 2011, a full 4 years after the game was already dead.

Edited by Jamerio at 17:36 BST, 12 October 2011

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p0rt - Reply to #452

cos q4 is shit and everyone knows it, pro players are 1% of a games player base, they make up nothing, especially a lager drinking weed smoking fragfest pub server world, pro players cannot handle chaos and get raped and cry non stop on here, they can only handle duels

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #453

"pro players are 1% of a games player base"

Yet it was that 1% where all that money was pumped into because companies like intel/nvidia recognised it was the most skilled.

The 100 meter sprint accounts for a fraction of the olympics, but its the event that pulls in the most viewers, excitement and sponsorship.

Edited by Jamerio at 17:45 BST, 12 October 2011

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p0rt - Reply to #454

no, its because they wanted theyre hardware linked to the engine and its tournies, they move like IEM, and quakelive is to old and gray for themt to care.. the lack of leagures makes pro players move on, then the game dies

q4 died because its full of the everyone knows, bugs, glitches, games crashes, bad physics and crap gameplay

Edited by p0rt at 17:48 BST, 12 October 2011

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #455

"no, its because they wanted theyre hardware linked to the engine and its tournies"

Yes its called sponsorship.

Everything dies in time. At least it was alive for two years with woldwide tourneys and money, that's more than most games.

Edited by Jamerio at 18:10 BST, 12 October 2011

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p0rt - Reply to #456

but its not sponsership if the tech companies run their own leagues, they might sponser players, not leagues, leagues and games they use are about the hardware connection and self advertising because the hardware can run it at "pro" level

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #457

If that were solely the case the players would not be allowed to use configs or anything that makes the game look bad for viz purposes.

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p0rt - Reply to #459

why,it still has all the coverage of leagues and tournies and the logo in the corner, with the tech company name in the title on all websites anyway

spending $30k on a leagues and all the showbiz, is probaly alot cheaper then actually running a global advertising campaign

<< Comment #461 @ 21:41 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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p0rt

there probaly wasnt 1 cup or league with 100k prize.. most are 30k tops, unless the game has a huge player base and will have 100,000 match stream viewers

QL probaly has 12k players and only gets 2-300 match viewers, prizes are 50 euros in a zotac cup

<< Comment #464 @ 22:02 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #461

"He has won roughly $137,870 in Quake 4 prize money between December 16, 2005 and November 11, 2007" -Toxic (wikipedia)

That's just one player.Bottom line is the game was played for the best part of 2 years with hundreds of 1000's pounds put into it over that time.

If it were just about hardware then why isn't there a crysis world tour, o an uneal world tour, because none of those games have the pedigree of quake.

p.S.
Quake4max was the mod that was used for the entirety of this.

BYE.

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p0rt - Reply to #464

no1 plays crisis, the only players it has, are players of the renderer..

UT is exactly the same as quake, and gameplay can be made exactly the same as quake with a few tweaks, but it doesnt have the name of quake, and players of UT want what UT is about

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #460

Your responses are no longer making sense in relation to what is being discussed.

Bye

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p0rt - Reply to #462

q4 is shit along with q4max, it had the initial wow its quake 4 first year of release, with the usual fix this and that from everyone...

it never happened, the casual gamers playerbase became non existant. so tech companies dropped it, because leagues and cups are a advertising scam to save money and put the name and logo in the face of millions for free

Q43A has everything, give me your money, and i will upload the source, if the engine for quake 4 is GPL`d by the end of the year along with doom 3 engine, then mods and total conversion have all the recoding and new features and performance of Q43A, if they are using the GPL`d quake 4 engine

otherwise, releasing the engines is a waste of time, just use UDK, none of you will every manage to better Q43A source and all the features you have to add yourself, which is everything that is Q43A http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a

Edited by p0rt at 22:01 BST, 12 October 2011

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #463

Who cares about casual gamers, this is pro gaming website.

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p0rt - Reply to #465

you are sunday league, nothing more

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #466

Of course, it panned your mod and you're angry.

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p0rt - Reply to #467

what panned my mod,

Q43A and all the load of new features and all the recoding, and everything that is Q43A, except for MP vehicles and a few things in SP, is 2 years old

code so clean, Q43A has 1 driver "library" for SP and MP, and can play 99% of the original SP game mode maps, just by clicking on start new game, and all maps made for q4mp

Edited by p0rt at 08:51 BST, 13 October 2011

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kapca ' - Reply to #465

are you a pro gamer?

also: http://www.esreality.com/?a=about

<< Comment #423 @ 13:27 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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z4t01 - Reply to #420

i know right its not like they had 7 years to develop the game into something worthwhile

meanwhile, at bioware.......

<< Comment #425 @ 14:12 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #420

don't worry they'll prob offer an expansion so they can milk a bit more out of ya.

<< Comment #506 @ 14:33 BST, 20 October 2011 >>

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Xen_Crypt +++ - Reply to #420

cool, hope wins :)

<< Comment #429 @ 20:50 BST, 10 October 2011 >>

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uuuaaaaaa +++:

Make you RAGE look amazing:

http://donotargue.com/cfg-makers/rage/

15%

<< Comment #431 @ 01:10 BST, 11 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut +

Bought the game for something like 10 dollars. I starting to like this Steam region lock thing... :) Still downloading 20 GB of data though, so no impressions yet.

Edited by sk4ut at 01:10 BST, 11 October 2011

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comrade ++' - Reply to #431

explain

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sk4ut + - Reply to #440

Living in Ukraine, I cannot buy international version for 60 or so USD, and have to buy Steam activation code from Russian game resellers for something like 450 roubles.

It turned out that it was a bargain, cause the voice acting is superb, adding to game atmosphere tremendously.

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ScarletJohansonsFather ++

tremendous job levelmapping and textures wise, id Soft.
also props for id Soft. for using opengl instead crappy microsoft proprietary directx (directx being the main reason why people do use windows instead linux/unix, which in its turn thanks to the slow win development is contributing to the stagnation of overall software)

they should also:
-give player the possibility to stay undetected if by foot; the gameplay as it is right now, as soon as a car appear I can't stay hidden, even if I am in the bushes or in the dark under a bridge
-write special code ( class?) for zoom in, not hud related, I'd wanna play with g_showhud 0 for 0 help from the map but I can't use zoom weapons this way, same with text messages

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 00:48 BST, 13 October 2011

<< Comment #436 @ 20:56 BST, 11 October 2011 >>

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Omni

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/10/rage-patche...ed-launch/

<< Comment #444 @ 11:37 BST, 12 October 2011 >>

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sk4ut +

All in all, I like this game. Thanks to my luck, I did not experience any problems with it, except single game crash with damaged quick save after one of the races (looks like I hit quick save button at the wrong time).

The only downside now for me is occasional texture popping and somewhat blurred (not crisp enough) textures up close. Everything else is just fine.

I'm playing through two games now - Metro 2033 and RAGE. And I really like how RAGE feels and looks over Metro. :)

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EmSixTeen +|

So, does anybody have any idea why my custom config wont load? There's no way it's supposed to look like it does for me with the settings I'm trying to load.

This is my config, and my folder structure:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3013985/rageprobs.png

All of these are taken in the Hagar settlement, in his bar thing.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59582534316...CF280CAF6/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59582534316...CA0D33432/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59582534316...62DBAA178/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59582534316...1A2DBD426/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59582534316...6902F5252/

I don't want to keep playing until I get the game looking its absolute best, and this isn't it.

Also, changing sensitivity didn't even work in the menu. Turned it the whole way down and still nothing.

Edited by EmSixTeen at 19:37 BST, 13 October 2011

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raythenoob - Reply to #473

you didn't hear?
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?19683-RAGE-Reviews

read tritin's posts and then see this quote

at E3, where they'll demo on a $5,000 PC,

in other words, what tritin and you are experiencing is the result of id taking screenshots (high resolution) on a high-end-pc and using those screenshots as marketing material for the pc. The graphics were never meant to look that good to the mass majority of people of most pc's.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameh...lks-rage/1

also, 6 days prior to that interview c said

"textures are exactly the same on all platforms"
http://www.lensoftruth.com/rage-textures-are-...n-carmack/

looks like a lot of people were conned.

p.s: never ever pre-order a game because of a bonus (fist of rage, armor, double-barrel shotgun). bonus = gimmick to get you to buy it early.... it's just a marketing ploy (like the 1 year ql subscription was) and a good sign the game won't deliver. Wait for a demo so you can be assured it runs as they first indicated.

Edited by raythenoob at 15:28 BST, 14 October 2011

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kalston | - Reply to #474

The game is great, fuck off.

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EmSixTeen +| - Reply to #474

I've seen players' screenshots with PC builds worse than mine looking better than mine. Please, stop talking shite.

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kalston | - Reply to #473

No idea why the cfg doesn't work, but don't expect the game to look good everywhere, some textures are simply very poor no matter what settings you got.

Tbh with the patch you don't need to do anything (unless you have an ATI maybe), just set the in game parameters to the highest and if you got a video card with 2gb of VRAM or more you can put:

seta vt_pageimagesizeuniquediffuseonly2 "16384"
seta vt_pageimagesizeuniquediffuseonly "16384"
seta vt_pageimagesizeunique "16384"
seta vt_pageimagesizevmtr "16384"
vt_restart

To get the ultimate 16k textures (that's the best we can have for now).

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EmSixTeen +| - Reply to #476

Yeah, that stuff is in my config. Just gonna wait for this newest patch: http://twitter.com/#!/ID_AA_Carmack/status/124916837791186945

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sk4ut + - Reply to #486

Don't hold your breath, bro:

http://twitter.com/#!/ID_AA_Carmack/status/125001438790287362

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p0rt - Reply to #492

i said a million times, you cannot get more detail in idtech engine, without putting up the render image size.. default in sdk`s is 800/600 for every frame and the image gets stretched to fit the screen on any display and any display size..

putting it upto 1200/1100 you get twice the detail from the original textures, and 1600/1200 is near to the texture details as the actual texture image in a image viewer, neither size affects performance, you GPU just gets 2c hotter

if you change the render image size in any idtech4 sdk, you have to go through the whole sdk setting 800/600 to the defines in renderview.h, but will mess up the camera eye joint, and the defines all need to be set in the engine

Edited by p0rt at 11:05 BST, 16 October 2011

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EmSixTeen +| - Reply to #493

.. Is that not what I've done with the cfg, loaded the highest textures?

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p0rt - Reply to #497

no, you are just changing the size of textures that get used on models, for each render frame.. which in reality is probaly just picmip not any extra texture scaling or just a worthless value if you do not have textures with those pixel w/h sizes

renderframe images, in idtech is like resizing a high detail 320/240 bmp and viewing it full screen with resampling used, the bigger the render frame the less resampling needs to be done and more detail is kept

Edited by p0rt at 21:28 BST, 18 October 2011

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p0rt

give me you money, i upload Q43A source, i build a new �1000 box and show you bitches how its done

yall have to add some extras to buy the game n windows 7 too

Edited by p0rt at 16:10 BST, 14 October 2011

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Jamerio +++' - Reply to #475

Save up your DLA.

<< Comment #478 @ 17:49 BST, 14 October 2011 >>

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eri +|

Well got it to work on ati card but it runs like crap at times even on low settings (when the screen gets kinda busy)

running on an e6850 + ati 6850 vid card

i guess the cpu is the bottleneck here :|

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gSTRUCTOR +++' - Reply to #478

No bottleneck there, a 6850 cpu and 6850 gpu is a perfect match.

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function9 +++'

Seen this review on another forum:
http://www.ag.ru/reviews/rage_2011