k1llsen eazy peasy

All VODs online here:


http://www.regame.tv/moppza&col=zotaccup123456789

FIRST

edit: screw you ffx

Nice can't wait, Good luck all.

HoQtv will be streaming

strenx-k1llsen incoming

apparently rapha is in germany this weekend

Man that would be sick, to see rapha in a zotac xD

trolling ?

trolling like i've never trolled before

You fucker xD

now I'm sad ='(

What if he's trolling you, to make you believe, that he's trolling, but actually saying the truth!?

inception..

Mother of god!

I was actually trolling him to make you believe that I was trolling him to make him believe that I was trolling but actually saying the truth.

We need to go deeper

Never troll from your memory. Always imagine new trollings.

Thanks for advice, troll sensei

Troll be back.

noctis comes in and takes it

why is this isn't major yet?

Level Up TV will also be casting this edition from the beginning, featuring zoot and ischju on the mic. Tune in at www.levelupyourgame.net

2ez4nvc

k1llsen & strenecks haven't signed up yet

but you do know when 99% of the players sign up?

last 30 mins :P

DON'T EVER DARE TO BUMP IT

?

These threads rarely get bumped nowadays.

What threads?

Zotac threads.

I think you're mistaken

take me off probation already

would be appropiate for strenx to win it

inb4 cooller shows up

inb4 he doesnt even know and care that today is a 100s zotac w/ special prizes.

inb4 someone tells him

#care anyways :)

this will be insane!

sign up, want to see my favorite british person in play.

Stream with zoot @ hoq plz ;)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...



http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2150642#pid2150642

Thanks for that.

Stream with zoot @ hoq plz ;)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...



http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2150642#pid2150642

Ok ok :)

You are not dumb, you are not dumb, you are not dumb.

I saw the comment you plank. I just suggested streaming for hoq..

Registered: 8 Apr 2009


.. Pffft, these newschoolers now days.

Yes, your registration date means very much. Hereby you are declared ESR God. Fuck off, though.

KNEW you'd bite

Haha knew it

:D

Too ez

So actually you are trolling me. Oh, how naive am I :( y u so good??

Must be that 23 years of experience

Srs can't believe your still replying.

Hello.

lo

you two crack me up :D

xDD :D

what is killsen doing? I've heard he stoped QL?

From what I saw yesterday morning he certainly hasn't quit QL. His rail is stupidly good

look at qlranks.com

Player name: k1llsen
Player Rank: gold
Current ELO: 1952
Current World Rank: 1

will this newb cypher play?:D

This cup is going to be so awesome, it will be like when I used to get my cat stoned and stack empty coke cans on his head. One time, I managed to stack three cans. It was fucking hilarious.

cats are funny hehe

rofl used to do that with my mates dog, cept it'd be whatever we could find around the room

Cant watch ;(( would be great to see strenx killsen 5 map 1 frag dif final with 50% lg and 80 rail for both on each map and dm6 as a decider trololololo ;))

stack more cans on cat head pls

this

grrrrrrrrr. gl to players.

46. KingBeule not checked in

Nice, hackers are playing.

Better nice hackers than unpleasant hackers.

Just clicked, very funny ;)

What, hacker? You must've lost to him to call him that. He loses to mid skill players, what kind of hacker is he, LOL.

Never played him in my life - Don't even know the guy.

Just something soemone posted on irc. See below.

Btw, your trolling sux xD

Hey mr. oldschool, I'm not even trolling. Lived for long 23 years and still can't get things straight - where is sarcasm and where trolling is. Go suggest one more time to cast on hoq tv, you've almost persuaded them!

Haha mate your too easy.

See Comment #54

Still biting xD

its never about that lol no matter if he was low-- it's still not justified

Some say his new nick is "cr0nx".

Someone had reported 'cr0nx' has being a wallhacker. Our customer support viewed the demo and found it inconclusive, or had determined that they were not cheating. So far now they are in the clear.

It has been requested that I view the demo to give it an additional review, so I will be doing so today.

is he hacker?

During the stickup CA 2v2 tourney, people were complaining he cheated, and posting links to aimbot forums where someone, with the name of "KingBeule" was clearly asking for cheats (triggerbot, etc, whatever that is).

July 6th, 2011 #329
Kingbeule

Default Re: [Release] QLHook - aB.net edition

The same question maybe more easy to understand (sry for my english)

Is it possible to enable / disable the Triggerbot with 1 Key?

July 6th, 2011 #329
Kingbeule

Default Re: [Release] QLHook - aB.net edition

Hi, iam just new here. The hack work without injecting the dll . But i have 1 simple question.
I just need Autoshot on Rail, and only sometimes. So, where can i configure a HOTkey for enable
or disable the bot? I cant find the Config.txt file. Maybe because i didnt inject the dll.
Is there a KEY for enable/disable ?

Go to ZOTAC admins with that, lets hope they will ban him from cup ;]

They need to check somehow if it in fact is the same person.

why would someone register on a hacking forum with their QL nick?

You'd think that.. But then again, he did rename to cr0nx.

Just saying, there's also ALOT of people who thinks he rail is very dodgy.

Only evidence I have are those aimbot forums posts. Never met the dude in game.

Just putting it out there ;)

Well, unless I see the CSI:QL seal of approval, I will never know. Same as you, never played him or seen him play.

some people are just that stupid

why did sombra post a screenshot of his own cheat?

That was a mistake because he needed to do it fast. This is thought-out stupidity.

sure he need to do it fast, but its not the first time he had to post screens after match :)

in spain, cheat posts you!

To Use The Reply Button Learn You Must

I will stream on www.bloodywarriors.com .. please tune in and have fun :D

k1llsen & strenecks checked-fucking-in!

Who? I only see ra1llsen and strenex.

lolwut

pavel, cypher, agent, strenx, madix, fazz, k1llsen, garpy checked in.

also, purri dueling q:D

interesting to see killsens shape

will tourney get 100 participants? otherwise it kinda shame we cant get that silly amount of players compare to other esport platforms

did you sign up?
why not?

he did

100 of 512 possible players take part

\o/

ql is game of a chosen

Well. This was fast. Reminds me why I stopped playing this cups in the first place.

This streamer gonna go on a game and commentate or just sit talking shit.

nvm

aimless cypher is just an ordinary newb

Grrrr. Bad troll.

GOOD THING HE CAN AIM THEN

LOL

pingless cypher is just an ordinary pro

ischju got issues rly. not that he talks much, i love postivie ppl, but making fun of even pavel for some kind of t-shirt that says logitech (like saying "WHO DOES (WEARS) THAT L:OL") o_O i dunno act. not funny and it seemed a bit low

...

Dont try to decipher that message dude

Behold AMJ, Defender Of Innocents, Protector Of Justice, Instigator Of Being True, Bane Of The Insulters, etc etc

does all streamers really have to focus only on only 1 match at 1/4 bracket round?

inb4 ping's whine from fazz.

inb4 biased comments

I will buy ISDN next week, so I get to play all my games on the swedish server. I am not even kidding, I will laugh quietly when I tell people I have 100+ ping outside my precious country. Even though that I actually practice there week after week. But during important games, I will force them to come to me and play out of their comfort zone. I WILL RULE THEM ALL

For historical reference, it was always considered that the guy that has the retard connection shouldn't be able to make other people pay for it. Which is what this guy does, every, single, tournament. Legie was at least man enough to not let it happen when he was admin.

CB even has a rule that russian/spanish/turkish etc pings are meaningless/not to be counted when calculating avg. pings when deciding on a server. its only fair... why do we have to suffer for their shit connection.

I totally agree. They play all the time with 90 ping, we play 30-45 ping. Then they come and force us to play 70-80 ping in the important games, when they are used to high ping and we can't hit SHIT.This is fucking sad.

true, but 50 ping is not that bad :/

It's a principle thing. I didn't argue I just played and raged :)

What ping did he have?

Sub 30

And if you guys played in central/nothern europe would the ping difrence be higher or lower?

but but but

visje says that higher ping is better

I think it was said that 35 is better for hitscan than 20, not that 90 is better than 60.

it could be true

but 60 is the worst ping u can have up until 90.

from my experience 59-63 is the zone where nothing registers. Less is best, but if u can't have less, try for higher (70 for example).

Therefore, 20 could be the 60 of low pings (a value to be avoided).

Correct.

true.

I only agree if he really has other options (change ISP, upgrade connection etc.). But if where he lives he has no other option, then it is not his fault and that must be taken into consideration.

He can move.

lol, u played against him with ping 50, wtf u talking about?
50 is still playable. Or u think when u play with ping 30 and he with 90 is more fair?

Fucking learn to read.

Fucking learn to read.

1: #130

2: newtard

What was the ping difference?

20

ping diff was smth like 20, wtf u talking about lmao

R E A D COMMENT #130

Can't believe I am actually arguing with some idiot who knows nothing about the situation except what he saw on some stream.

30-50 is certainly better than 90-30. What are you on about?

Where did I say that it wasn't so?

You admit that you raged and it was your fault.

Why avoid the question?

That's the vibe I got from what you said. If not, I don't really understand what you're trying to say.

What I mean't was that this is always the case with this guy. And normally the difference is alot bigger. Since the case obviously was fair this time I just played in russia. Normally I have played on his server about 50% of our games even though my ping has been waaay worse than what it was this time. And the main point being is that he practises with higher ping all the time, and then when it comes tournament time, he just says "ru server go". Forcing everyone to playing out of their comfort pingzone while he has 50ms less than he usually does.

People with shit connection shouldn't pull other people down with them. Therefor I made an extreme example where I buy a shit connection and does the same thing. Maybe he cannot help his situation, but neither can his opponents.

What do you mean by normally the difference is alot bigger? Your/his ping to Russia changes often?

Mine does, or did indeed. Some days I could have 20ms there some days 100+.

At least that is how it was in this year before dh, I haven't really played alot there afterwards.

So the situation would be 100-30 in pavel's favour, or 30-90 in yours? Or did his ping to Europe change too?

Something like that. With the expection that me and others had 10 5+ server locations that we could play on and he only one. So the question is, is it fair to let his bad connection rule over everyone elses. Hence, I should buy a isdn and always get to play in Sweden.

Get the point now?

If he is the sole cause of high-ping games in cups (which are less interesting to watch), then personally I believe he should not be permitted to play.

Ping 50 seems very playable though, so idk why you raged this time. Allowed a russian to get under your skin for exploiting a favourable situation? ;)

nope, I just sucked, and raged

Yep, Legie never allows players who lives far away from central europe to play with "fair ping" for both players. Its their problem and if they wants play zotac, they should have ping disadvantage because of they are from country, that is far away.

Or we can allow players from USA, Mexico, Brazil, Japan,Korea.....

+back nades ftw

gg hitler incoming =)

Why the fuck not 1map on swe/de/nl and the other on russian server.

How the fuck was the fair for fazz ?!

ping eby4ii

same drama every zotac...

just force pavel to play with bad ping, its his problem... why ppl even care?

Admin has no balls.

this sucks... and hard...

time to change admin

Because if strenx(aim heavy player) is forced to play with high ping he will hit nothing, while pavel will play good. This can decide the game, that's why he is whining and trying to force the game as bad for strenx as he can.

shit ruleset...

but strenx just made pavel mad :D

I ROFL so hard mate :D. You don't have any idea :D:D:D

Nice, they forced strenx to play with 85 ping, while pavel pings 81. GG admins, fucking retards.

I am sure strenx will hit 50lg and 70 rail! Or...15lg and agent's rail.

ahhahaha take that pavel, aimbot on

..so it's equal?

no

You say it's equal? ROFL! Sure, pavel plays with 80 ping all the time, while strenx played 5 times in his life. Do you know that ping takes time to get used to? And I don't mean 100 games. Even your gamestyle depends on the fucking ping. Stop the fucking trolling, ok?

The games should be played in as equal ping conditions as possible. Anything else is against fair competition.

Ok, I can't wait to see what you will tell when you must play with 3 times your ping, that your opponent plays with ALL THE TIME.

First, it's not all the time; he does play on ru servers. Even if, the player with the lower ping is advantaged and playing conditions should be as equal as possible.

there is no such thing as getting used to a ping in ql. It is not like q3 where u knew where u had to aim on diff pings. In ql u just hit less. If u mean to get used to hit less, then u have a small point.

Strenx don't agree with you, as he say on stream yesterday. No offence, but I will go with his opinion(and my experience).

No offence but I will go with my experience. Also, I don't see the pros like some kind of knowing all gods.

I heard what strenx was saying and I am not sure that he meant what u say. I will trust his and ur word only if u come up with an explanation. I mean to how to aim with higher ping and a demo/vid that proves it.

On top of that, in ql is not ur ping only that counts, but the opponents ping as well. If u think that u have deciphered ql’s crazy netcode and know what to do in various pings, then u r more than welcome to share ur findings with us. Have in mind though that many ppl tried and haven’t yet seen one who managed to do so. All I see is whine about how random and crazy it is (and I don’t blame them).

QL netcode is another problem, I agree with you, but the hitbox lag more behind the model with higher ping+rockets are delayed when fired...saw strenx hit himself with 2 yesterday? Because you need to fire before you show yourself, otherwise you will be sitting duck(and he didn't do it right...because he is not used to 85 ping --->that alone(2 selfhits) can decide a game). If you play with predictlocal 0(like k1llsen or me) you need to adjust your rails more behind enemy+plasma is useless+lg feels different on 85 ping... small things mate, but when you play vs close to your level opponent thats what decide the game.

I still stand by my point, but I like ur post, since u have a couple of good points, like the delayed rockets.

I was baffled of how fast some players shoot when they r getting out of corners. I guess it’s mostly low ping. I tried it myself in practice (pinging 60-75) and is hard, since u have to fire inside a very small millisecond range before the end of the wall/floor and u will most probably end up hearting urself. Therefore, I never do it during games (seems hard and risky). I guess if I was playing at the level of pavel and strenx, it wouldn’t be an option. I would have to do it, take the risk and learn to press fire at the exact millisecond before passing a corner. That is especially helpful in chases and when u know where ur opponent is.

In similar respect u have to spam with lg more and be more careful. Since, if u don’t do that, the other player might end up lging u up to a whole second (even more if he wraps, which is very usual) before u manage to return fire urself.

...but about where to adjust ur aim, I have no clue, since sometimes the enemies' image is misplaced on ur monitor and sometimes not (which explains the periodical through-body rails and the non splash damage rockets).

You got plus from me, good comment.

WOW 5ping difference, so you saying its better when 90 vs 60?

Read my post above, and cut out that bullshit. One play all the time with that ping, he know how to play with it(more spam, not relaying on aim, etc), while the other plays with 30 all the time and relay on aim. Pavel will play his game, while the other player one will be handicaped? Strenx fault that pavel got 80 ping in all countrys? Yes?

Are you absolutely retarded?

Russians play on russian servers.

Pavel plays a lot on EU servers. You are the retarded one.

I very rarely see him on EU servers.

And in any case the whole "used to the ping" thing is a bullshit excuse.

It is not, hitbox is on different place related to the model you will see. More ping--->more laged behind hitbox. So you need to compensate for that+if you play with precitlocalrail 0(like k1llsen)...you really need to adjust the rail+rocket delay when firing+gl with plasma+lg feels different too... strenx hited himself 2 times with rockets because of it(because when you spawn with rl, you actually press the fire button before you show yourself, otherwise you will be a sitting duck while waiting to fire). Thats small things, but thats what decide the game with player around your level.

Afaik strenx has the same possiblity to pracc with high ping if he wants to....sure it sucks to play with high ping but i know i want the same conditions for both players when i see a game.

ye, but i line has to be drawn at some point.
I can relate to playing with high ping, but they should consider geo restricting this tourney (or ping restricting to a certain server) imo. Coz this is almost like having some1 located in i.e. Usa and then him demanding to play on equal ping. Just ruins the over all quality of the games (bellow 40ms matches are more entertaining then 80+ vs 80+ ms ones)

this semifinal is retarded.

PAVEL_ cheater 100%

strenx needs to learn playing on 80 ping, its not even that big of an issue tbh.

lol, you with your ping doesnt matter whine again, your like a broken record mate

and one of the only semi-pros who thinks this way

Did you use google translate to answer me ?

I don't think 80 ping is better than 30 because it isnt true. But it is not a big deal, apart from rockets, which isnt exactly strenx's fav weapon I reckon

It is sort of funny that you can never catch pavel off guard.

noticed that aswell.

are you kidding? did you even watch the strenx game?

wp strenx

semifinal was :B

Considering the history of Zotacs, I think this is the rightful winner of Zotac 100 :-) Ggs wp

ggwp

VODs are up on:

Own3d.tv (50 fps) max quality: www.own3d.tv/lvlup

Youtube (30 fps) downgraded quality: http://bit.ly/oPLoV0

German VODs:
http://www.derquaker.com/vods/

Congratulations Strenx (definitively the best European player now) ! Thank you @ ZOTAC for this 100 great cups and thx streamers for the coverage. I hope 100 and more ZOTAC cups !

RUS VODs - http://www.goodgame.ru/video.php?ocd=view&id=3336

On YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/user/EmpireEsport

I missed the final, but saw it was 3:0. Close games or rape?

kinda rape

fromage

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tnx zotac