ofc free nobody pays for smthng on internet.. OH WAIT HAHA

the one that doesn't work properly

Pro all the way, played this game for 11 years it's only natural to support them.

I found your Q3A cdkey on dc++ in 2006. You shared your baseq3. :)))

lol must have been some blunder, and might actually be true! :d last time I used dc++ was around 2006 anyway.
scary shit that you can remember it.

I remember all kinds of useless, trivial things in life, but never the important stuff :(

Are you telling me that you're playing Quake "Live" for 11 years now? xD
Mistaking one game for the other won't justify that your supporting bad development, greed and most importantly the destruction of one of the greatest games out there.

Yes im telling you i've played the game for 11 years. I've watched it grow and right now it's transforming into it's teenage years.

Quake 3 has already been adult and now Quake Live is back in it's teenage years. Wow, welcome the new evolution in pc gaming -> degeneration!
Have fun paying for this obvious fail. xD

ok

you're in denial. this game is going nowhere as it stands now. wake up please.

your in denial, its the same place it has always been. we love it.

It's not really worth my while considering the amount of players in South Africa. If there were maybe 3 times more people, I would definitely go pro.

Free

you should edit that to "going to upgrade" instead of "want"

For those who plan to upgrade, I'd love to hear why or what you are waiting for, such as:

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options
* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
* Waiting for more or specific content
* Waiting for more features / service benefits
* Waiting for more players/server/region support
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)
* Waiting for bug fixes
* Just haven't gotten around to it / don't have spare money atm

+content, content and more content (specifically I'd love ospdm1, and not any other the edge remake)

+more players. This issue revolves mainly in the limit of 5 not pro or premium players invited to a server, which btw was not said specified anywhere when subscriptions were released.

I'am waiting for that map for ages now, it is much bigger and nicer colors than the old one and fits for TDM too :)

Ever seen Quake4 TDM on it ?

4 y/o thread?

i guess they cannot use these osp maps :)

nomip

G T V gief it already.. ah well i didnt buy ur account,not planning to do it and i even dont play ur shit game and all this because of bad community manager ! :P

* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)

+contet especially new ctf maps, gtv and mvd

Well got premium yesterday because i was tired of waiting for paypal support, but i'm hoping you're going to read this anyway:
Are chat tokens ever going to be included ?.. i mean thats like few lines of code honestly :/

I already bought pro, but if anything id like to have my nomip rockets from q3 back :(
Strangely annoying that you can't see trough rocket explosions when you could in q3!

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1964427

I realize people are used to it from q3 but I'd say you shouldn't be able to easily see through explosions or plasma tbh. Would make the weapons less useful in a lot of situations and pretty much force everybody to play with it on.

with plasma i can understand it, but with rockets its just stupid :/

yeah, I mainly got plasma in mind obviously, however having nomip on one and not the other would be pretty weird.

hmmm, maybe they could change the plasma to be smaller or transparent. No nomip and no change for rockets. Make it a cvar so "purists" can keep the old style. Or make it a scalable varialbe, even.

Would that solve the issue for you?

nah, basically I'm saying that making it easier to see through plasma cells would not be a good idea gameplay wise. With rockets I don't care so much, don't really see a reason to change it either though.

you mean weird like being able to use a picmiped lg and not a picmiped rl?

:p

you can understand?... than you can understand why we also need blinding grenades and turrets.

why don't we add some crates while you're at it

* Waiting for more or specific content
* Waiting for more features / service benefits

:D

I'm mainly waiting for... thunderstruck and like 2-3 more 1on1/2on2 CA maps =).
And also, a "fixed" netcode, i mean, the netcode atm is still pretty nice, but if you compare to cpma or warsow netcode, well, it's definitely not as good :P (especially for projectiles).
And ofc more competition features can't hurt :P.

Otherwise i still have fun playing the game, even tho i whine a lot =).

Other ways of paying such as paypal, debit or even phone would defiantly make me consider it and if it was available in monthly / 3monthly / half a year subscriptions then I would have already got it. I will add that a subscription is a bit annoying and I'd rather have a one-time payment rather then money automatically coming out of my bank account when I'm having a 'down' moment in playing

Also, GTV is needed for sure. Maybe some more duel/CTF/TDM/CA maps. League ladders and a rethink of the way stats are worked (loss/quits/switches etc need to be sorted out for pub games since many games can be stacked teams with 5v2 because others ragequit/spectate). Also votekick/ban and shuffles DURING games whereby the shuffle is done by scores not just random. If you votekick someone in warmup, they should be banned from that matches duration

Other ways of paying such as paypal, debit or even phone would defiantly make me consider it and if it was available in monthly / 3monthly / half a year subscriptions then I would have already got it. I will add that a subscription is a bit annoying and I'd rather have a one-time payment rather then money automatically coming out of my bank account when I'm having a 'down' moment in playing

This. And Swedish servers that doesn't suck balls.

say thx to pax and bluder who dont do a shit about it

wat?

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options
sure
* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
hell yea
* Waiting for more or specific content
Yes
* Waiting for more features / service benefits
Like the GTV
* Waiting for more players/server/region support
damn right, Croatia, Brasil etc.
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)

not sure that it is needed, although it would be nice to keep track of players you played more than once. For example:
I play idkfa 30 times, and in my competitors page I have his entry that is topmost and will stay there that tells me that it's 16/14 in win/loss ratio between us. Could be even applied to public matches because same tier guys often play on same server mixed teams. Let's say you add a variable like team wins which would contain wins you obtained with that player you play often with. You could the see whether there are some public players you often win with and that not just by play feel suit you but also by stats :)

* Waiting for bug fixes
that's confirmed

Waiting for.
It would be nice to have somthing like that statistics thing implemented in stats page.
If you record stats, and just display the end result, people can't measure their stats climbing or falling during time.
It's somthing that could persuade people to play more :)

manly this one
* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options // then i'd buy pre
but if this happens
* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options // i'd probably buy pro to try it at least

* Waiting for more or specific content

give us more content than q3 + mods already got then q3 owners will recognize to pay for sth actually new content.

Unfortunaley this is almost impossible. ID just cant put more effort in quake than the community already did to q3. Especially regarding the developing pace of ql

"Waiting for more players/server/region support"

* Waiting for more or specific content

ctf maps (w3/p15/p9)
ca duel maps
ladders
gtv
irc support

irc support

That's it!

stfu, you voted that you don't want to upgrade

lulz, free ac and no intention of upgrading?

* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
* Waiting for more content
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)
* Waiting for more servers, in Lithuania!

* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)

I have pro, but something like cg_smoothclients (I mean functional of course) would make me play again.
I had to stop because I warp on opponenents' screen (ISP related, I can't fix it) and I'm pretty sure the warping problem is really annoying in ql for everyone.

* Just haven't gotten around to it /

and also I want to wait for the first major content update, to see if it'll actually be worth it.

Main reasons:
* Waiting for more features / service benefits (Streaming is no good for 3rd world infrastructure, need GTV)
* Waiting for MONTHLY subscription options (Don't know why it is not like anything else based on monthly subscription? Don't want to pay during periods I don't play)

Lesser
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues) - Would be nice but not okish without it
* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options - Would be nice but not important for me

Waiting for 6mo plans to be available.

When the Argentinan location isnt down 1-5 days every time QL updates, for at least 3 months , then im going Pro. I have a conflict on this issue, i really want to help QL, but being threated like 2nd tier clients pisses my off.

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options

Has to be this one for me, as for the time beeing my card doesn't get accepted

Payment by phone is definatly interesting though, easy and no card or anything specific beside a phone needed

PayPal plz.

*Waiting for the game to stop being shit

fyp

* Waiting for Catch the Chicken mod :)

I already have PRO, but the only things I am missing the most is chat tokens, customizable team chat lines (multiple visible at screen) and in-game stats including damage given/received, items picked up etc.

I'm currently paying as thanks for the +12 years of quake I have enjoyed thanks to you guys :)

I will pay this 1st year as support to id software in hope that you will get enough support from the scene to make something awesome out of this game, even though I barely need the features I'm currently paying for, in particular the pro features, due to me not playing that much at this point. This is not based on me not liking the game, it's just that I currently don't have much time to spend into the game.

For me to pay the 2nd year I will 'demand' some things by the end of this 1st year. I just want to feel that the support is there, and the community is actually big enough to find games all the time with pro/premium content. I'm also expecting to see ladders/content for all game modes, and full GTV support amongst other things.

Except the most obvious fail (not supporting more payment methods) the updates have been quite good after the premium/pro support got here.

cpma

* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options

SC2 style ladders and matchmaking (1v1 and teammodes)

servers in the arab gulf or any where i can get less than 70ms and ill buy pro

Id has shown nothing but contempt for this community. The only thing you come here for is to ask us how you can get our money. What's worse, id doesn't even make sense. Not only do they then not do those things which would get our money, you seem to genuinely not care about anything but money, and you'd make more money by listening to the community. All the stuff we've modded in, or have done through third-party programs, have been done because they are useful and are what people actually want. If the community is willing to do these things for free, common-sense would dictate, doing them professionally is worthwhile.

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options
Yes, Webmoney

* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
hmmm, maybe

* Waiting for more players/server/region support
Yes, server in Kazakhstan!

bump

we're still waiting for over half of those! :(

edit: actually all of those

also nice to see that so much guys didnt go into this shit with rename a game and cell 10yo stuff, esr users r not so brainless like i was thinking at start :O)

As opposed to other games that only update graphics and resale the same idea over and over again right?

The way i see it, i'm paying for continuous development of the game i played for the past 11 years.

continuous development

:)

lol at nomip whine. not really a good reason. the gameplay is already great and i'm sure id will make more content and stuff. .
play that new halo game if graphics are so important for you, enough 14 year olds to play with online!

free, i refuse to pay for free content. i _might_ get premium if id can actually add what they keep promising. (ie, not old maps but purely new stuff only for starters)

nope, just free for me and im guessing itl stay that way, and is it just me or did like 80% of the casual players leave the game since they introduced paid accounts? its challenging to find a CA game :/

Just a slow period, F.I. term's are at ending period or they've ended but left some other obligations unattended.

you can't find CA games because matchmaking is kinda fucked up. At some point it truly forces you to only play duels.

well, that bug really makes the game apear dead, i hope ppl arent quitting cause of this illusion :E

I'm waiting for GTV - can barely watch any stream due to my bad connection.

u r from germany and have bad con? get a job

I'm from EASTgermany.

We:
#1 don't have jobs here.
#2 don't have propper cables either.

You are from Berlin, dude. It's fuckin' capital of Germany.

I used to live there - now I live in some village near berlin :<

you should rename to "dorf" then.

u mad?

... or Brandenburg.

:(((((((((((((((((((((((

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzOTMXroAr0

Old.

WATT KabelDeutschlad ?

KabelBW 50Mbit stable cable connection, i'll get on OpenArena the lowest pings on the server ~ 17ms

yeah me too :\

The way i see it, i'm paying for continuous development of the game i played for the past 11 years.

Nice to see someone with a similar mindset.
Pro and enjoying every bit of it.

I would love to see 3 or 6 month option, however for the most part I'm just waiting because I don't have the money right now.

Oh, and content. That question will probably always be "yes".

waiting for OSP 1.32 port :D

Waiting for xerp and -100 rail. It will makes me nuts.

xerp is there from the beginning, always enabled

I bought pro although pro seems pretty pointless considering there is enough servers to play on and the fact you can now lock team sizes.. you can pretty much set up tdm/ctf/ca team games ona public server without anyone intruding. Only down side can be people joining duels, but then most leave otherwise you just jump onto another server.

since i have bought pro i have played about 20 public matches and about 400 on private servers, pro ftw
prem seems kinda pointless though...

but are public servers really that empty that you cant play at any time during the day?

i only duel, so playing on private servers is hard unless you have a continuos ammount of buddies who want to play none stop :P Guess it just depends on what gametype you play or if you know enough peopel to play vs

For those who plan to upgrade, I'd love to hear why or what you are waiting for, such as:

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options
* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
* Waiting for more or specific content
* Waiting for more features / service benefits
* Waiting for more players/server/region support
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)
* Waiting for bug fixes
* Just haven't gotten around to it / don't have spare money atm

I guess ID wants to hear our opinions to make their priorities to the points which were written down above.
So basicly this means ALL THOSE POINTS are far far away from being finished???

Otherwise ID would not ask us but add those things in 1 release to lure more people to pay.
bad perspectives for the community

*More payment options
* Waiting for more or specific content
* Waiting for more features / service benefits
* Waiting for more players/server support
* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)
* Just haven't gotten around to it / don't have spare money at

please explain to me how any of those points can ever be "finished"?
People can always demand more.


So yeah, priorities are exactly what they need...

note to self: never hire becks as a project leader.

Great, I really hope you keep that promise.
Working with customers who just go around assuming stuff is a nightmare.

note to self(edit): never hire becks for anything.

how cute.
You are trying to make himself look superior, aren't you?

What a cutie <3

With that kind of analysis skills you should be looking for these kind of jobs as your main career choice, and you would make a lot of money to other companies with your flawless knowledge from a major company based on some smaller questions.

I had free account but deleted it.

wish the (pro+prem)/free ratio would be like this for the whole ql community ;)

so from the people who voted thus far id makes about 6€/day

Doubt it, they had over 1000 pro/premium subscribers within a day (according to awards page). And that was despite all the problems at the beginning.

Yup, just thought the amount of subscriptions from esr alone would be a bit higher - I'm guessing most of those who didn't care to vote don't subscribe. Would be very interesting to get an exact number though, hard to guess by now.

if they didnt hide the premium & pro awards we would know

O RLY

Theyre doing so much money thanks to QL that they dont want to show the stats. Ez one, RLY.

Yeah, their income must be through the roof. They just don't like showing off.

They get some money for ads too

all their ads are from bethesda, which is owned by the company that also owns id software. So no, they dont :D

Not all, I see a lot of random ads too.

guess those dont show up in my region then :D

Yeah and gay men dating ads aswell, huh? Bethesda is widening their audience. xD

After all the rage during quake con, I have bought pro anyway :c

consumerist whore

Kurwa whos supposed to invite u to PCWs and trains then? IF NOT FOR ME YOURE DOOMED FOR LIFE OF SPAMMING GRANATY W CORRIDORY NA DM6 :@

We don't play PCWs or train anyways. :@

klan inaktiw cos polish conspiracy (((

Though I don't like the crippled twin brother of Quake 3 at all, I still want to upgrade one day. There is little hope left, that this miscarriage will grow up quite well. It just needs too much time with the current pace of development.

irc-based pickups integrated with ql plox

this

Well i'm not going to pay for any accounts, until id demonstrates support for the esports/pro-gaming community. If they won't support us, we shouldn't support them.

Maybe id doesn't understand... this is not a Quake community. This is an esports/pro-gaming community. Things like GTV, leagues/ladders and easy-to-load demo's are just the most basic of things needed to make it work. The reason this seems like a Quake community, is because we still consider Q3 the best suited game for esports and pro-gaming (despite its lack of key features). As soon as a better game comes along, we will switch... especially if that game supports pro-gaming, and id games do not.

lol, no paypal support, every newb with no html knowledge can integrate pay with paypal methods on his website nowadays, but id software can't do it. If id doesn't want any money, it's there problem ... visa cards or credit cards are not everywhere as common in the us ...

you don't get it do you ?
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees
https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/legalhu...le.x=en_US

just make the buyer pay the additional fees, depends on them if they want to pay the additional fees or not ... credit cards have fees also, and I dont think they are less than paypal

it is the same problem with id and steam, each company wich like to get a little taste for the action :)

Hey Sync,

here are my answers to your questions:

* Waiting for PayPal / More payment options
-> waiting for PayPal

* Waiting for 3 or 6 month subscription options
-> yes

* Waiting for more or specific content
-> if you could implement Ra3 and Threewave as a mod (with all the maps) - that would be great. Most of the people I know only play this two mods for ages!
Also we need more maps. I play Q3 since the days of Q3test and I`m really bored of playing the old standard maps over and over. BUT I really like to see the classic Q2DM1 map "the Edge"! That would be awsome for duel, ca or ra3!

* Waiting for more features / service benefits
-> I really wait for a good mac version. The fpscap to 80 is horrible and the mouse on mac doesnt feels like the mouse on pc - but with the same config. Please do something. There are a lot of mac users out there who really like to play QL on their native system. I only have a bootcamp windows on it because I like to play QL how it should be!

* Waiting for more players/server/region support
-> thinks thats okay here in germany!

* Waiting for additional Community features (ladders/leagues)
> GTV

* Waiting for bug fixes
-> sure! An improvement is great!

I think most of the people are waiting to upgrade because they dont want to pay and then only see empty servers. A lot of people who got premium or pro told me that the only week they had fun was the premium week where all pleople played and the servers where full! When the week was over there were only a few people to play with. And thats NO FUN!

If you want the community to pay for something, then you have to give them things they want. The introduction of thunderstruck, ra3map1 and ra3map1 was a good start! ;)

keep waiting

Premium is enough for me ;D

I want Paypal.
I want to be able to buy a 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 1337 month sub.
I want.
I want.
I want.
I want.

You can now pay if you have a standard bank card too with Maestro etc ;)

Waiting for servers where I could finally have <120 ping.

I wich the had made a more advanced QL game out of ioQuake3 with even more features than some private programmers did :)

incl nVidia's TXAA
incl AMD's True Audio

So you revive a 4 years old thread about account type to post about features u want in the game? hmmm

are u asking or telling me something ?

I'am not even sure if it will be better than now, i think YES :)