"fuck"

yeah

gj agent! gg toxjq =)

i guess toxjq was trying to drop on the middle ya and failed? wasnt visible on stream

Yeah this is strange.

I took 2 screenshots with r_shownormals 1 so we can see toxjq model :

http://nantaises.free.fr/shot0004.jpg (at right)

http://nantaises.free.fr/shot0005.jpg (at middle screen after he is dead)

use wolfcam and change pov

Do you happen to know at what distance the ability to change PoV fails for wolfcam?

nope, but from my experience it should work here

Ah, ok. Thanks.

I was just kinda hoping that most duel maps were small enough that I can pretend to be using CPMA MVD :)

It's not exactly distance I reckon. QL servers then to not send information about enemies you can't see and hear (don't know the exact criteria). Sometimes when you quickly look around a corner you see someone popping up out of nowhere in the distance.

Same goes for demo's, at the times where your client didn't get info about your enemy, it won't be in the demo so you won't be able to change your pov to it.

not true, see r_shownormals 1 or the various wallhacks and radars there are.

well, if you use r_shownormals you can see your enemies appearing and disappearing.

true, but you as a client receive far more information than 'what you can see and hear'. shownormals or hacks can not alter what the server sends you.

i don't think a model 'popping out behind a corner' can be attributed to this :) more likely it's just someone warping through the map.

but it is true, at the very least for demos.

I used an early version of wolfcam at and some distance behind corners, etc the information for other players is simply not recorded, i.e. the player you try to watch simply disappears.

I actually was under the impression that is because how the game rendering engine works, rather than which information you recieve through the netcode.

hmm, maybe.

But I think demos in team matches are different sizes. Isn't that a sign that not all players receive the same amount of information?

Anyway, the result is the same. You won't be able to see everyone.

ye, and the game rendering works based on... whatever the client receives from the server.

amongst other things yes, however that doesn't mean that the rendering engine can't 'throw away' some data it recieves....

toxjq fuck yeah

av3k gotta run

agent got lucky, still wp

MOAR TOX!

Now plus meh

no

way

in

hell

spawn

o_O

i was just reading write

yes, plus meh!

:D

Toxic : FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

A machine doesn't rage

If wonder if tox's facial expression changed one bit when he cratered and lost the game.

Not a chance,machines dont have feelings :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrRNg78dDgg

sure about that?

Hahahaha good one ;)

no they dont...they just get blurry http://www.esreality.com/files/images/2008/67149-res_IMG_3761.JPG

More toxjq!!!

Luck didn't have much to do with it. Tox clearly off his game a bit: missing rails and item times. Still, agent barely managed to beat him.

Reminds me of everyone crediting the pizza box strats to av3k managing to beat toxic once, when in reality it was just tox being rusty.

With some practice tox will be able to rival rapha no problem.

I am sorry to use the Frontier airlines business slogan but its the most appropriate to describe where you are wrong.

Rapha: A whole different animal.

the same could be said of cooller

sadly no. he relies on control and in combat dodging way too much, and this is coming from a cooller fan boy. you gotta understand anyone who relies on a subset of aspects of the game (movement, aim, weapon choice, control, positioning, choosing fights, dodging, +back, enemy hp and position prediction) can never be perfect. Rapha on the other hand exploits mix of all these elements to the max, and that makes him near perfect, if you see his games the one thing that stands out is that he does not rely on a certain event happening or not, he has 3 to 4 backup plans handy, even under extreme pressure, I think this is what separates him from the most, among the current top players only cypher has this ability to a good extent.

rapha's barely holding on as it is every tournament, and tox was literally crushing those same players for years

Rapha is the Batman of quake. He's got backup plans for his backup plans.

Toxjq is probably like superman though, anyone going toe to toe with him in aim will get straight up mollywhopped.

So it will be interesting to see a completely in shape toxjq vs Rapha at his best.

I still think Rapha will win, but he will be driven to the max to defeat that beast.

Love the superhero analogies :) Every fanboy knows Batman has some kryptonite for the rare occasions Superman gets out of line.

batman has plans on how to defeat any superhero- in case they go bad or whatever...

you know superman got a special fullbody armor so kryptonite doesnt bother him
toxjq is known as a machine for his flawless play. He rarely makes (decision-) mistakes at all + toxjq aim :)

rapha can beat toxjq... remember fatality vs toxjq on phrantic. Fatality got a 3 or 4 frag lead in the first 2 min and then... run away like hell. Rapha vs Toxjq will look similar

Haha,
why do I still remember this match...???

Because it showcased the most annoying +back known to man!

does "completely in shape" = "in his prime" toxjq?

:D

q4 vs ql

tox beat av3k in q4.
tox beat av3k in ql.

hmm isn't av3k top 3 in both?
yep he is.

You must be joking.

a rusty toxic can beat even the best.

He wouldn't have been able to do that if it was a LAN.

You must be joking.

Do you honestly think a win in a gdata means this much? He's still rusty and still far from his prime form, definitely not able to confront top4 and come out on top.

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/toxjq

True he's rusty, but if he bootcamps he's EASILY top5. Even in the matches he is loosing to players like Cypher, he's still out damaging them. At the moment he's obviously relying on his aim which is imba but should he work on timing he'd be unstoppable...

edit: and it says something when he's hitting 20% LG and still outdamaging Cypher in the games he's losing (though to be fair it was probably a mess around game or something):
http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/tox...y/45078597

I'd never argue that tox in shape would not rape [notice the rhyme |].

like toxic accomplished anything in duel except for Q4. i don't buy it. he won't do shit even if he is serious in ql duel. just like q3.

problem with tox is that he's a one dimensional player. his timing is mediocre at best, even I was thinking "go for red" as I was watching the game and I can't time for shit. with ql being far less rail/lg dominant and rapha playing it... tough.

Yeah because Toxjq has never accomplished anything at LAN against players like avek ¬¬

when as rusty as now, ofc not.

Well, I'm not sure how much credence I'd put into examining his results vs. certain opponents in q4/ql. I was referring to how they're wildly different games.
I think if he got serious in ql he'd do well, but I'd be he'd be like fox and be consistently 4th-5th.

"tox beat av3k in ql."

Really? So when was this? I want a proof.

ZOTAC QL Duel Cup #42.

n00b.

Luck all times

Poor toxjq, this is sad.

btw he was doing somes closes games versus Stermy, and now a good result versus Cypher (13 games, 5 wins, 8 loses) online (Wednesday) :

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/toxjq

no rape scores.
gl for Qcon !

they are at it again today... seems like it's kind of 50-50 who wins.

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/toxjq/last_7_days

are they buddies since the q4 days or what? guess it's good that toxjq learns to play against superb rocket players like cypher. he must get used to boring +back and rocket spam play styles. xDD (not saying that cypher plays like that but u kno!1)

if he only were going to quakecon :p

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He could still sign up for Quakecon since as long as you are known in the pro circuit you can get in. Would be insane if he did :}

he have no sponsior

I wish we could see a top form cypher vs a top form toxjq. I think both had the best overall aim i have seen in Quake and they might be the most talented players out there. It's just sad that cypher can't play with wmo1.1 and have the same aim as before.

a dozen perfect rails gone trough. fucking shit game.

vod guy??

lol, hello... are you there?

give him a message.