It does more dps than lg and is long range. Enough said.

so nerf it lol... they nerf everything else

if you nerf it, you have basically two machineguns, I don't see the point

the point is trolling

nah, he's just stupid

then we have to mg's?

first !!1

woah, you're fast!

Yes. Nerf its range, to say, about lg range. Then nerf damage output to, say, about 140 dps. Spread is unnecessary if range is limited so remove that, so we have pinpoint accuracy.

You might just have a point here...

So basically, you just want a nerfed LG? I mean, if you want its range nerfed to LG range, with pinpoint accuracy (like the LG), then you want its damage nerfed too, then by your logic why bother changing the chaingun and just change the LG?

have to disagree with you on this one... besides, it still is an overblown mg, and we already have one of those... now, changing out mg & cg....

/sarcasm

lol
missed it

i remain unconvinced

not yet....

I too remained unconvinced...what becomes the purpose of the MG (as if it had much of a purpose before)? Besides, I kinda like the fact that the LG range is limited.

MG has a purpose.

However, making CG instead of LG really has no point.

MG is wickedly powerful in the hands of a good aimer, and against someone with little to no armor.

Yeah we all want to see Purri become no1 in QL :D

go play q2 pls

i remain unconvinced

i remain unconvinced

mg -> boomstick
rg -> stake gun

gauntlet -> axe

indeed

and noctis is right, sg -> flak cannon primary fire ; fuck instant hit weapons, projectiles ftw

Nope, i don't agree.

Hell no, lg is fine.

Drop RG tho, replace it with a projectile weapon.

Was that a joke?

No.

Ok...

Pummel
Blaster
Grenade Launcher
Plasma Gun
Rocket Launcher

£££

light sabre (start weapon... you can throw it!)
grenade launcher
plasma gun
rocket launcher
80 dmg stake gun
and maybe the flak cannon from ut (but only with the shotgun like firemode)

€€€

Stake gun sucks.

why

It's a bit redundant, it's a rocket+grenade-explosion. zzzz

You'd have to have it do super damage, then it just becomes a shit lame weapon.

I'd rather see an AoE-DoT weapon (Like the BFG20k in Q2???).

make it's projectile speed a lot higher than that of a rocket, so it becomes harder to dodge it.

Yeah, I figured that already, it'd still be boring and not really adding any interesting aspects to the game though.

PK stake is already pretty fast and hard to dodge after all.

what becks said

also, make it a valuable pickup weapon, i agree that the pk spawning stake was bs

i demand that carbon cannon from mysteries of the sith. awesome.

hurrrrrr remove all guns except bfg

Yeah and quads on every duel map.

Agree. BFG arena in all gametypes gogo!

good idea! and Topazas, i think we can go one better and simply have the quad as the default damage alltimes

Pro idea, needs implementation ;D

Lots of crappy gun suggestions here.
The weapon Quake Live needs is the Landshark Gun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHPvT8zVXT0

No idea how to embedd the stuff.

oh... my god...

that + ffa + quad = $$$$

Quake Live doesn't need weapons, unless they make MG a bit stronger, SG a bit weaker, and that you spawn with SG.

However I don't see why id should bother making new weapons. Just no point.

it's not a new weapon. you find the chaingun on some maps in qlive.

I know what CG is, my point was that QL doesen't need changes like that.

thou shall not pass

this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVKPuoytPiY

rofl...

i convince me to be unremained

Yeah, swop LG with CG, then swop MG with LG. Problem solved.

for those that don't get it:

the ranged lg damage had some benefits to it, because of the fact that with an lg, in order to deal damage, you need to catch your opponent out, you need to make him stick to a fight for a long time. the best way of doing this is in short range, in small rooms, because at the typical lg range your opponent has an easier time escaping (for instance rushing top level on dm13 compared to rushing water-ya on t9).

the cg, just like the lg, obviously doesn't do quick bursts of damage, so the same thing applies. with the cg, though, you get to actually see and hear how much damage you're dealing, because the damage boost at close combat comes from more shots hitting (due to spread), and not some unknown arbitrary limit. the more ballsy usage of trying to catch people in fights "until death" with it is emphasized by the fact that it starts firing quicker after a couple of seconds, which also adds the questions of "should i start firing before i go around a corner and risk being heard and wasting ammo for the added damage?", and "should i fire at long range or conserve ammo?"

it's more manly, and more complex, at the same time!

hell yes

you should play UT instead.

ut blows

thats what i mean