Duel:
sv_skillrating 28

sv_skillrating 41
(im guessing out of a 100 :D)

^ that was for CA
it's lower for duel

nub

out of date skillrating yo, i play more than twice a month now

duel:45
tdm:92

sv_skillrating Dogs Bollocks

Good = The Dog's Bollocks, dogs bollocks means the testicles of a canine.

Testicles of Canines

Fukin plurality son

^what Liam said. same with 'shit' and 'THE shit'

same with "phat" and "fat"

*edit* no offense jamerio

CTF : 61
pro TDM : 65
the rest is below 50 =(

31...

What is this rated out of?

ELO.

I understand that, but what's the max and minimum level?

normally ELO doesn't have a max level. However, this seems to go to 100.

It's possible they simply set the highest ELO, some threshhold or some range to be 100.

Elo isn't really a min/max thing, but more of a system that is relative to players.

edit: looking at the numbers here, I don't think this is an elo system.

sv_skillrating 95

maybe it depends on mod also? (duel, ctf, etc)

Yes of course it does. I forgot to say duel server. :)

this sv_skillrating u all are posting, is specific to a gametype... so fail :>>

this is how u post:

ctf 95

duel 71
tdm 100

you'd better improve duel :/

pff, tdm is what counts :p

"TDM is where the cojones are ;)"

Are u saying that only nuts play TDM?

duel 47
ctf 75
tdm 82
ca 93
ffa 100

5

sv_monkeysOnly 0

:(

duel 27
ctf 79
ca 85
tdm 74
ffa 59

I assure you, the skillrating numbers tell you nothing, and any schema you come up with to interpret them will turn out to be incorrect.

You know this how?

Empirically I've noticed that the sv_skillrating numbers go up after I've won a few games and go down when I've lost a few. Is that a coincidence?

Practically the sv_skillrating numbers are translated, server-wide, to determine if an opponent is skillmatched or not. There are five levels of skill matching (not to be confused with tiers). The lowest skillmatch which won't even display the server for you. The "Your Skill Higher" skill match that constitutes two "levels". The "More Callenging" which is one level above and last "Very Difficult" which is one level above the prior one.

What if you join a high skill server play on the really good team win like 15 games in a row but every game you have like 5kills and 25deaths ? Why would your skill rating go up based on wins?

Since the method id is using is based on ELO it only calculates all players ELOs and depending on if you lost/win adds or subtracts your score.

i'm unsure if it works that way. i mostly play pub tdm and have a win ratio of under 60%. still my skillrating fluctuates between 95 and 100. so i'd say there has to be some other factors here aswell.

I've run repeated experiments on this and that's what the evidence tells me.

Here are some posts on the matter, which would suggest that skillrating is based on power rating:

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showpost.php?p...stcount=18
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1753991#pid1753991

You can see powers of the people listed on the server with /pb_power , but these are 8 alphanumeric characters with no clear way to identify how they translate to sv_skillrating.

Here is a sample output of pb_power:

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/attachment.php...1256555440

Here's some info on the basis for its mechanism from punkbuster:

http://www.evenbalance.com/publications/cod4-...layerpower

However id uses it in their own way for quake live ratings. Anecdotal evidence would suggest that they have changed the way this works quite a few times.

the so-called 'power rating' is just the name given to the internal quantification of skill - it's completely separate and nothing to do with pb's power rating for player priviledges.

neither myself nor anyone from id has ever said the skill rating has anything to do with pb, so it must be you who has incorrectly made the leap from one to the other.

aside:

since you mention it, the 8 'characters' are the last 8 hexadecimal digits of the players' GUIDs. the full GUID is 32 digits, but the last 8 are enough to be uniquely identifiable afaik.

Ah, I just wrote the same.

Since you seem to have a good hand with the guys at id. You shouldn't convince them about tihs. A much more appropriate rating system would have be based on TrueSkill.

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/trueskill/

The problem right now with ELO and QL is that ELO doesn't really converge to a hypothetical skill level (\mu) but fluctuates heavily depending on your current win/loss streak. While the TS system would quickly converge (\sigma -- the standard deviation (uncertainty) of your skill level would go to 0) to a hypothetical skill level and then slowly change upwards/downwards depending on your improvement.

I actually have a python code for calculation of TS aimed at matchmaking for pickup games and it's working good in theory but hard to automate in practice because of the limited data mining possiblities from the web interface/game.

I guess you could go with DWZ which is a based on ELO, but that stuff is quite complecated.

Never go tthat hang of it despite being listed for 3 years, or so :P

Yep, I got those two terms mixed up. How about a different term, say, 'global rating' to indicate the 'true underlying rating'.

Any help on how sv_skillrating numbers when alone on a server translate to this rating?

The PB "power" doesn't have anything to do with the ELO ranking (which you call power rating). Its a remnant from old times when kicking people from servers with PB was popular. Now, as you can see in the screenshot, it's more of a dummy variable that's set to 1.

The 8 characters is a GUID (= Globally Unique IDentifier) number that doesn't change and sticks to a players PB for identification purposes.

As for what injx wrote:

sv_skillrating is an average of the players power ratings in the server. the tiers are just superficial classifications of the underlying power ratings, they're not used for anything except the up arrow/down arrow/tick on the server browser.

Yes this is true of course, that's it's the average. That's why you join a green empty server to have your own sv_skillrating not the average of your and other players'.

Show me your experiments that sv_skillrating isn't an approximation of the ELO rating system.

how do you know? it looks fine in my case.

ffa 100
ctf 94
tdm 84
ca 75
duel 60

duel 30
pro tdm 70

duel 48
tdm 100
ctf 100
ffa 100

duel 28

What!? Is it really that low?

yeah :)

there goes your theory

Actually when I saw a game with him inside it was marked "More Challenging". So not really.

yeah 70 :)

that makes me feel better

All of mine says "0" and ive played all gamemodes and have a total gametime over 5 days.

Guess 0 is 1337 then?!

edit:
FFA gives me 98 8)

did you enter /sv_skillrating in the console or /serverinfo and read what it said there?

]\serverinfo
Server info settings:
sv_ranked 1
g_voteFlags 202
sv_allowDownload 1
sv_maxclients 14
sv_hostname Free For All
fraglimit 50
g_overtime 0
g_gametype 0
timelimit 15
g_maxSkillTier 5
gt_realm quakelive
version QuakeLive 0.1.0.277 linux-i386 Nov 20 2009 21:30:30
dmflags 0
protocol 73
mapname qzdm14
sv_privateClients 0
sv_gtid 371074
sv_punkbuster 1
sv_minPing 0
sv_maxPing 0
sv_skillRating 59
sv_monkeysOnly 0
gamename baseqz
g_compmode 0
g_maxGameClients 0
capturelimit 8
roundlimit 5
roundtimelimit 180
g_needpass 0
g_timeoutCount 3
g_instaGib 0
g_gameState IN_PROGRESS
g_maxDeferredSpawns 4
g_levelStartTime 1259499869

]\sv_skillRating
"sv_skillRating" is:"0" default:"0"

sv_skillRating 59

blind much?:)

wut.. yes!

duel: 42
*SAD*

Duel: 42
TDM: 67

duel 20
ffa 90
ca 53
ctf 74
tdm 73

CTF: 100

sv_skllrating is really variable for me
after a bad day or just a lot of close losses against similar skilled players it goes down a lot. 25 is the worst i have seen so far and 47 was the best that i checked

maybe sv skillrating is only the skillrating that goes with in yout tire.. so from 0 - 100 for each tier

No. Tier is an approximation of sv_skillrating.

duel 24
ffa 100
:S

over 9000

i dont like zhis question :/

duel 45
ffa 86
ctf 62

One server showed 28, another showed 40.. so i dunno if this is that accurate.. maybe its dif for each map?

It shouldn't fluctuate that much. Perhaps you didn't join a green server both times or a server with other players.

duel 15
ca 55
tdm 73
ffa 76
ctf 80

For me it seems the same across all maps(but I did check only a few). I barely play duel, I'm 3 out of 4 for it however! Haven't played in ages so I wonder if my ratings will change over time of not playing some more.

I bet the fake players like njorun or red_sprite have the best sv_skillratings... :-/ AGP ratings ftw! :-)

ca 92 (1265 games)
tdm 100 (95 games)
ffa 100 (40 games)
duel 53 (14 games)
ctf 73 (0 games)

Rated 73 in ctf with 0 games played, great!

Btw to we get AGP points for this?

Without AGP sanctioning? Hell no!

Battle with Raditz
Raditz – 1,220
Farmer – 5

Piccolo – 322

Son Goku – 334
Kuririn – 206
Master Roshi – 139

Son Gohan - 710

Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408

Son Goku [Kamehameha] – 1,080
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,330

Gohan – 1,307
Piccolo [Special Beam Cannon] – 1,440

Tenshinhan – 250
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 145

Powered By ELO Rating System

duel - 29
D=

duel 21

where do I collect my reward

tdm 75
ctf 70
duel 14 fuck yeah
ffa 79
ca 38
pro tdm 75

duel: between 35 - 54

Duel 6

duel: 13
tdm: 18
ctf: 20
ffa: 9
ca: 11

duel 58

tdm 60
ctf 62
ffa 90

CTF - 93
Duel - 11


The fuck is that?!

Duel - 50
TDM - 90
FFA - 100
CTF - 85
instagib- over9000

Duel - 44
CA - 62

i thought it was map dependant?

duel between 1-44 depending on the day

confused muchly as
ca 83
ctf 98
tdm 88
ffa 96
DUEL 9?! play lots of duels and im tier 4 so if im tier 4 whats with the so very low rating?

duel: 21

btw I check my skillrating almost every time i join an empty server, as well as when someone connects.
4 out of 5 times, skillrating shoots through the roof, going well over 40 or 50.
I've had some well known tdm-ers joining my server and when i politely point out that i'm a noob; and not really a challenge at all for them; i get the following responses: "testing new cfg", "no no this is his gf playing", "there were no other servers available", "i always rape noobs for my first match of the day", "aww c'mon it'll be fun!", etc.

God I love Quake.

tdm 98
ctf 100
ca 98
duel 33 *cause i suck

p.s. didnt know 100 =)

1v1: 22

clan arena: 100
duel: 20
rest is approximately not worth mentioning (neither was duel but meh :P)

tdm: 100
ca: 100
ctf: 100
duel: 20

CTF: 100
CA: 98
TDM: 93
FFA: 92
Duel...... 9 :-(

duel: 0-49

I can go all the way up and all the way down in probably just 3 to 5 games. According to id, someone can become a good player, or from a good player transform to a totally shit noob in less than an hour.

this
actually i'm quite sure i've gone above 50 in the past as well, it's just totally random

CTF: 100
CA: 96
TDM: 77
Duel: 17

Haven't played much TDM or duel. Or at all in the past 6 months.

ctf 100
tdm 96
ffa 100
ca 100
duel 44


ping averages 80 :D

so I am proud to have those (even though qlive skill ratings do suck donkey balls)

ctf 45
tdm 100
ffa 100
ca 96
duel 46

CA 100
duel 56

dont play anything else cause im lazy

Rating system is bollocks (for team modes at least). Ideally, 100 should be achievable only by 2-3 players in the world, yet half of tier 4 has skillrating 100.
For some reason I have ca rating of 96, yet I feel like a noob on servers with much lower average skillrating. The system just doesn't work properly.

It's fucked up. I'm flattered that the game tells me i'm fine playing a ca match with Killsen, Vor, Slaine, Juvenile and other terrific chaps of similar skill, but yeah, no fucking thanks, i'd like to play games where i actually, you know, stand a damn chance. The way things work right now, i'm basically rolling dice every time i connect to a server - don't know if i'll be up against people worse than me, on my level, or a bunch of rapists that will violate me.

The previous system wasn't ideal, but at least it worked to some extent. I can't even remember when was the last time i saw grey (unrated notwithstanding), yellow and red ca servers.

rating system is useless, as for example i play mostly agains players who are much better than me, and obviously i get raped most of times...

this makes my skillrating around in between 10-30 but when i play skill matched game its me raping

FFA 100
CA 100
Duel 38 >:(((

TDM: 96
FFA: 100
DUEL: 48

FFA: 45
TDM: 25
CTF: 32
CA: 51
DUEL: 89

DUEL: 89

U SURE?

Yes. I'm good in back+spam, hiding and having patience. While i do so i'm very quick on the calculation of item respawns, and i can remember up to 4 items at the same time. Being a sissy that does math in videogames is one of my qualities.

In other words, you're bad at Quake, so you play FFA.

I'll try some other words too. The chord connects with a guided campus.

In other words, no rebuttal, because it's an inescapable truth.

Around the imprisoned platform frowns the emergency speaker.

How can you have only 45 in FFA when you have 83% wins ?

Tony

I have like 85 skillrating in FFA (wtf?) yet I have hardly ever won any matches (I usually join games a bit late and find myself facing people ten times better than I am plus I don't take it too seriously and leave music on etc).
In 75% of my FFA matches I was like 4th-3rd (or maybe 2nd) with a 1.0 or lower k/d.

In CA my skillrating goes up and down all the bloody time (was at 80 two weeks ago and I'm at 40-50 now, even went down one tier, and now it's going up again).

Haven't played enough TDM/Duel/CTF for now.