I demand a nice picture of fatal1ty for illustration purposes

i am sure carmac has one

Condition: Live near a bus stop in Dallas, Fat will pay your fare and get you into QuakeCon using his progamer status. Bring some donuts though.

lol :D

wtf is that guy with the prepubescent moustache?

as much as everyone abuses this guy, this is a very nice offer :o)

The Gaylord is in Grapevine, not Dallas.

There's plenty of gaylords in Dallas too.

Yeah, not Quakecon location kind.

HO
LY
FUCK

I feel bad for Michael J. Fox, he used to be a great actor before his health turned bad.

He probably doesn't even know he's standing next to Fatal1ty, let alone know that he's posing for a photo.

p.s. Not to hate too much, but the promo video for this looks like there was probably a contest and a winner was chosen after submitting a video of himself with a green screen in the back, and then they took that video and chroma keyed it onto the Fatal1ty background after it was sent in. The boys color and red background don't match, lighting and all.

poor michael, he looks frightened

heard he's still shaking even today ^_^


:<

[-] cause it's MJF :F

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http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2008/02/4...188882.gif

:D

reminds me of that family guy joke, where he was hired as zorro... :>

rofl :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6nApaP2_ak

exactly lol

thank god im not a pro gamer(NERD)

How the hell did they get that shot?

*EDIT**

That's the power of love Fat!

damn marty.. :s

didn't know his condition is so bad :sadface:

:/

I'm not sure what he's saying but could see his condition.. feel sorry for him ... didn't know it's getting worse... difficult to grasp while it's shaky...

He's giving support to a politician who supports research into using stem cells to cure Parkinsons (his condition). Many people think this research should be illegal, which obviously pisses off anyone who suffers from something that could perhaps be cured by it.

I was reading stermy cells

research which might result in a 30 - 50% increase of your normal hitscan weapons

thank you for the clarification... ah... cell stems....

WHY ARN'T WE FUNDING THIS!

i win
as usual

no i'll win damnit

Jamerio should try.

just give this to noctis

yeah, if fatality anyway can send anyone to QC, then why it should be some random person instead of someone who deserves it?

"deserves it"? in what way does noctis 'deserve it' more than some average joe? what exactly did he, or any other 'progamer', do to 'deserve' it?

just give this to funnyb

or f1nally! \:D/

\:D/

\:D/

they're not ready for it!

btw you owe me one mamba. You said fox was going to win! :P

fox will always be a winner in my heart <3

It might sound strange ... but I`d like to go :-)

If I was the fatal1ty brand I would require besides basic information a motivational story why you should be picked...

Always good for some laughs... :D

nVc

Joking, right?

I'm a big fan of Ziggy Novice...

i carry you

and winner is .... NOCTIS, just remember to participate fjorgyn!

Nice gesture

for some nations will be hard to get visa to usa so quickly :/

i presumed it'd just be a holiday, never travelled to the US before so no idea bout visa's n such for holidays.

several countries mostly from the EU have privileged visa rules with the US. So it's usually sufficiant to fill out a form foir a tourist visa on the flight. Just have to say that you are coming for "pleasure" for a short period and have return ticket.

However, that does not work for many other countries that does not work and they have to apply for a real visa, which depending on whether you do it on your own or through a company and how good your contacts are can take between some days to months.

I believe "Reisepass beantragen" in germany takes some weeks, doesn't it?

yes, the normal way it takes about 6 weeks I think.

But they issue temporary passports if it's urgent. Or at least they did ten years ago :)

well, http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1599603
(still i don't think it's that hard to get a visa, it's a matter of time tho)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program

world champion 2009 at being cool and giving away a trip to quakecon

Except that this is a trip to Dallas, and Quakecon is in Grapevine. That's about $80 cab fare.

except that this says explicitly that it's a trip to Quakecon 09 and grapevine is next to Dallas.

According to the quakecon website, if you fly into dfw there's a qcon shuttle that'll take you to the gaylord for 10 bucks.

DFW is like right next to it...

This. You barely go up the highway from DFW before you turn off into Grapevine.

Then how is it an $80 cab ride?

if you first take a cab into central dallas then get another cab to drive you to grapevine that second fare might just be 80 dollars.

of course not many people except for vedic would do that.

It's Texas. That kind of fare was a few years back, and I would assume even higher now since gas is more expensive.

It's roughly 20 minutes of travel time.

http://www.dallasyellowcab.com/rate.html


hmmmm...

i think its pretty cool thing tbh, loads of ppl want to go quakecon and cant. if he picks someone enjoyable to watch at dueling. that would be really cool. Johns made alot of money out of gaming, so this is a nice give back. much more than it is a PR stunt.

I even entered myself, said i would like togo to shave slashers head. I will stay true to this! live on stream bitches

this is a nice give back. much more than it is a PR stunt.

No it isnt. It probably has the condition (although not listed) of being a yank who wins. Cheap travel but lots of publicity. Of course it will be claimed to be open to eu, asia, africa etc but a yank miraculously wins but he gets cash from all the attention gained in those regions.

meanwhile we see some shit yank player like lost cause taking the spot over a .eu player

gg

it will be interesting to see if an american wins and now you've put this conspiracy into peoples heads you're gonna make fatality look bad and thus lost your chance of quakecon.. GUTTED!

i just want fat to enter

that won't happen, he's got an image now. No point messing it up

he's got an image now

Amongst clueless twats; the rest of us are perfectly aware of when he is ducking a tournament and judge his legacy accordingly.

not to take sides or anything but overall he is a top class gamer and proven it so many times. Why should he suddenly make a comeback now and train hard to try win. He has shown already that he is a top overal gamer and probably the 2nd best overall gamer int he world (2nd to jamerio that is - our very own esr featured multi talented (not won any tournaments but still brags) jamerio). :o)

HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM APPLES!

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but really, he has proven himself to be a top gamer enough times that his dues are paid, imo.
General consensus around here is that he should be as good as cooller. You know, that guy that hasn't won an event in ......

Don't get me wrong, I think cooller is a great player, but look at him now? He has already paid his dues, if he quit while he was ahead, like his fatal1ty did, then he wouldn't be known as the "I never practice, I don't care about quake but I'll attend a bunch of tourneys and not win them" player that cooller has become.

Seriously, give the guy a rest. He cemented his place in FPS history, and has been steadily trying to bring media and marketing attention to the gaming world as a whole.
I realize that paints a big target on him, as far as you kids are concerned, but seriously, give the guy a break.

p.s. I'm not just saying this because he's been nice to me in person, I don't know him well enough to really be biased in his favor.

is that aimed at me :o) because i kinda said the same thing in less words and bad grammar :o)

He just thought you were sarcastic, which happens easily when you talk about Fat and not flame him.

or when you mention jamerios achievements.

ok it was a joke at jamerio partly ;p

Why?

I got a job based purely on the strength of my gaming skills.
Earned several hundred hundred thousand pounds from game testing and design. And the skillset from that earned me the ability to setup my business for life. The bafta, trips to E3, working on big games.

Secondly, I'm actually high skilled in FPS/FIGHTING/DRIVING.

I'm certainly good enough to beat %99 of the community of those games and I can't say I want to invest silly time to get right to the top.

I am by far one the best and most successful overall gamers in the deepest sense.

Its just there are too many people around here with a retarded currency of success.
Some might be good at quake 3, but what options and other achievemnts do many of them have have in life?
look at what they've sacrificed? Its stupid. A lot of them do nothing apart from play one game and even then failed to make a living from it, which lets face it, they obviously tried to do.

Being good at quake isn't going to do you shit, its all about a balance, across the board and I have always been one of the best.

This is sadly just a gaming junky site for quake addicits who can't see out of thier little bubble, that's why behind the scenes there are a lot of sad ass stories behind your fragile currency and why ot does not take off.

I'll beat any of your Quake hereoes in street figther, a tournament game which was invented before quake even existed.

So does that mean quakers are shit because if I'm allowed to pick my game? I still got my carrer, other genres, and a skillset I turned into a business?

Most are not anywhere near my overall level TBH.
That's why some of you obsess like your entire lives depend on it, because really what a lot of you are.

Its quite sad really. Bur reality does not really sound so good to some of you people too. But its still a fact.

Oh noes not the post about your money earnt games testing/designing. Does anyone really care? If it was a discussion on your job, then sure go ahead but in what context does a professional gamer go under the same catagory as a designer/tester.

Your multitalented gaming skills must of past by every gaming website because i've never seen your name mentioned for quite a few of the games i've followed, trackmania nations? quake series? unreal series? halo? cod4? ET? CS? Fifa? pro evo? starcraft? warcraft? wow? sorry but i'm failing to see your achievements on these games other then _YOU'VE_ played them all for a few months. Your not a professional multiskilled gamer, you are merely a casual gamer.

l2converse

I'm referring to my success as a gamer across the board.

Success and Professionalism, generally awards one with MONEY, AWARDS, LONG TERM FUTURE.

Just ask Thresh.

Those are real, definable things which one can rightly argue are worthwhile things they have taken from something and makes someone a professional.

Take a look at many of your quake hereos and see just how many of the above points they can check.

What sort of money have they won?
What awards or tourneys?
What long term future has it given them?

How good are they at OTHER games outside of the one they major in?

What sacrifices have they made to get that good and has it really paid off in the deepest sense?

Most people don't care if you're good at quake. It means very little.

Its not going to pay %9.99999 of the bills.
its not going to provide you with any real future, which is fine as its just a game, but a lot of people here don't see it like that.

They go all in with it.

So to say people to people who have in fact achieved things in the deepest sense that they're not done anything is BS.
Especialyl as you place such fragil worth in a limited currecy.

Your idea of pro-gaming is broken and it always has been.

your success across the board means nothing. As we are all referring to fatalitys success in playing different games and being the best not about his family back home and how he supports them.

However you refer to yourself as some top gamer solely because you played games (like any one does) and then got a job after that in the gaming industry. With this whole great idea in mind lets put a spin on it.

You watch movies like the whole world does? How much money have you made from watching these movies? what long term future has it given you?

Well I work in the film industry and get paid for it so thus i'm a proffessional/successful (across the board) movie watcher! It pays 100% of my bills.

Your logic is flawed, you aren't a successful gamer solely because you play loads of different games for a short period of time and now work in the industry. You are successful at your job because that's what _YOU_ want to do and you pushed for it. Just because we play games doesn't mean we all want to work on them, and just because you now work in the industry doesn't mean you are a professional across the board gamer.

Fat has played ONE TYPE of game. Just different variations.
Just as many quake pro's have.

If he had jumped into RTS/FPS, won an EVO tourney in StreetFigther then I might think different and buy the ultimate gamer BS.

So at best we can say Fat is good at FPS, but he's not done anything else in any other game.

He's no more a professional at ANY other genre than you or I are.

So how does it really make him and top quakers a "professional gamer"?
If people like fat can beat you are FPS and you can beat him at RTS or Fighting who says one is better than the other?

What seperates you in the deepest sense from top quakers?

N O T H I NG

Just the perception of currecy/success among the dis-illusioned.

If fat can beat me at quake and I can beat him at street figther (both are tourney games) then why does that not make someone a real professional over someone else?

If you beat someone at 100 meters, but lose to them at hurdles are they any better than you?
Surely a professional 100 meters runner would easily be able to adapt and still beat a nobody in a similar field?

Your movie thing is flawed (can i haz free filmz pls?) as all you do is sit there.

Fats not earned money for playing for years.

So if its all about honour then, how can it be different if he's obviously a one trick FPS pony?

Oh no your flawed logic is back.

Let me get this straight.. because he won quite a few tournaments in one genre of games he is no longer a professional gamer? Your are basically saying footballers aren't professional sportsmen because sadly they don't move onto other sports and win there.. Fat is a Professional gamer just like starcraft/warcraft players etc etc - they merely play a certain type of game, lets call it a genre!

Now I'm awaiting you to beat fat at sf4 which most likely won't happen just like david beckham isn't going to play vs nadal in a tennis tournament it's not their chosen genre of sport/game.

My movie thing is however not flawed, if you are judging watching movies not a skill think again. In it's entirety I watch movies and study how they done the visual effects to create the look they got. It's a big part of my job and if I didn't do that I think i'd fail at what i do.

what have you done in gaming except being invited to a tournament as a joke and then embarassing yourself and blaming your keyboard? i love it how you favour yourself over fatality and thresh while you've never even won a tournament in anything. not even the rock-paper-scissor SF games you play that any monkey could master given enough time. also, when you write that essay on what you think of as "achievement" for the fiftieth time, it quickly borders from hilarious to just plain sad.

Still bitter. I'm not goign to reply to you properly because you're inbred and bitter and live on a bankrupt volcano.

You're biased and mis-representive on so many levels, its not worth discussing things with a nobody like you.

hahaha, i'll hold my reply until the third edit.

I'm curious. Could you at least reply to me then, and tell me if your perception of a football star, is that they are one tricked since they only play one single sport, and should'nt be considered professional athletes due to that?

Because that is basically the comparison to what you said about fatal1ty only playing FPS-games...

The level of talent a club footballer has to show to get anywhere is insane.

You have millions of people all over the world trying for the same since the day they are born.

This is nowhere near the case in a computer game.
Secondly, games are a lot more predicatable than footy.

In a game like quake, everyone has the same movement, weapons, in football, easch game you come across a new opponent, outside factors like temperature, thousands in the crowd etc. So its a lot harder to read.

Its not even a comparable model.

I would rather be a small time footy player earning 500 quid a week playing for my local team than ANY pro-gamer.

Let alone a top earning premier player.
Who would you rather be?
Ronaldo or John Wendel. Please.

its not even the same stadium, or sport.

Nothing in football we havent seen already. Imo a game like Quake, SC or CS is more complex. Lets face it. They cant implement a new shape of field with multiple tiers in football, to spice up the game. Not that its needed though.

I wouldnt even say the amount of talent it takes to become a champion in fx. SC, is less than what it takes from a football player. As you say its not even comparable...

Why do you bring the earnings of a pro-football player into comparison of a pro-gamer? We all know what an established and classic sport football is, and what the many decades as a mainstream sport, has done for the players salaries.

So from what you just said, a guy like Ronaldo is a one tricked football pony, that cannot be perceived as a real professional athlete.

Nice try tho

Oh wauv. If it actually was fatal1ty bragging like that, it would be a real valid reason why to dislike him :P

for fucks sake just stfu, being a good all-round doesnt mean you win PRIZES? since usually the best players win..

and for u, who the fuck is lukek? some low acc q3 newbie? I feel sad for you, even after all your effort ur aim and general skill is soo low, you must have some kind of problems absorbing skill, yeah but not every of us can learn things fast!! :D

not sure what you are trying to say to my post with this response.. all i was stating is that fatality has proven over various games that he is a top player.

and to continue, who may i ask are u? :o)

i am not sure if you checked right post, since i clearly answered to your questions about jamerio :D

and for who am i, does it matter?

"for fucks sake just stfu, being a good all-round doesnt mean you win PRIZES? since usually the best players win.."

i think you are getting confused with this post. I merely said that jamerio isn't a true professional gamer, he's just the same as any other average joe playing for fun.

didnt he say that he is better than 99% percent of fps players? :D he is either lier or a good player :|

HMM.

When he says "top 99%", he's trying to include every terrible idiot that doesn't know how to move etc. I'm sure even then he doesn't rank in the top percentile(for ANY of the games he plays), but I'm not going to take his bait after seeing himself throw the same argument about his success when it's already been proven that the job he claimed he had couldn't be his.

Among competitive players he's shit. I can tell without ever seeing him play :p

that's a big exaggeration, the 99% figure. probably more like 70%.

please tell me that thing is at least bookmarked and you don't make it all up every single time.

it seems as though most of you work is just games testing. which is the most boring and lowest level job in the games industry.

I totally agree with you, anyone can be a superstar in one thing, but hardly no one can master everything. Thats why i am usually dissing some players like "_burn3d" or anyone who has come to top with practice pratice practice without any skill or talent in other aspects of life :DD but its good for us rest, we can success in those other aspects easier since some of us waste their time to some gaaame :DD

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(1) Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (eg, exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements).

(2) Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love.

(3) Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can be understood only by, or should associate only with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).

(4) Requires excessive admiration.

(5) Has a sense of entitlement, ie, unreasonable expectations of especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

(6) Is interpersonally exploitative, ie, takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.

(7) Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognise or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

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(9) Shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes.

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Is this a serious post? I really can't tell :/

Cooller not practicing but still playing in tournaments > fatal1ty playing at home but not in tournaments.

Don't really see how there's any equivalency between the two vastly different positions. Tho I do LOL at the way you seem to admire fatal1ty for sitting at home and not competing while simultaneously looking down on Cooller for competing despite not being in 100% perfect shape.

I cant see why he has to keep playing for the rest of his life to justify his former accomplishments to you. How many years of continuing participation in tourneys, would dignify admiration of what he has achieved already?

Boring straw man.

He's not sitting at home, he's traveling the world constantly.

Somehow I'm unsurprised metaphor is lost on you.

It wasn't a very apt metaphor. You're implying that continuing to compete in dinky Q3/QL tournaments would be as big of a contribution to the gaming world as what he's actually doing, and I think you're wrong.

I'll break it down without metaphors, since you're obviously a bit thick concerning this.

Cooller is sitting at his house practicing (sic) quake and competing (poorly) at LANs.
Fatal1ty is doing a great deal more to contribute to the gaming world than that. Take the topic of this thread, for instance.

You're implying that continuing to compete in dinky Q3/QL tournaments would be as big of a contribution to the gaming world as what he's actually doing

Nope, try again sport.

Fatal1ty is doing a great deal more to contribute to the gaming world than that.

At no point in this thread have I mentioned fatal1ty's "contribution" to the gaming world, nor have I have debated any point relating to it.

Good to see with your poor reading comprehension you've successfully avoided all of the content and context of my posts in favour of arguing against fictional straw man arguments you were entirely responsible for creating.

You plan on embarassing yourself further or can you argue against yourself on points of no interest to me without me present?

Ok then, sport, what is it you're trying to say?

You're the one with the straw man, not KotK

"Cooller not practicing but still playing in tournaments < fatal1ty playing at home but not in tournaments.Traveling the world promoting competitive gaming for the mainstream."

ftfy.


edit. Corrected the <.

Yeah playing bad players at expos, posing with booth girls and claiming to have won eleventy billion world championships is truly god's work.

Kobe Bryant should quit professional basketball and just play 1v1 with 12 year olds at promo events to improve upon his competitive legacy as opposed to playing in the NBA anymore.

Kobe Bryant signed with the Lakers for over 136 million, a top pro gamer would be lucky to make over $40k in a year with the way things have gone lately, and that's if you win a majority of the tournaments. Fatal1ty makes way more money promoting gaming and endorsing products then he would playing professionally, that's probably why he retired. He's taking a more long term approach and that's smart.

lol if you think Kobe's main reason for competing is money.

This has everything to do with competition and nothing to do with money. Who gives a fuck how much anyone gets paid? You can't watch a demo of a stack of cash. If you want to be considered a competitor you face the best you can find, end of story. If you'd rather make more money beating newbs in 1v1s where they play with your mouse then call yourself a businessman not a professional gamer.

"Who gives a fuck how much anyone gets paid?"

You know how I know you're a kid living off mommy and daddy?

Don't go into business as a psychic anytime soon.

He purports to be a professional gamer yet doesn't compete in professional gaming tournaments. It's not a matter of opinion.

just because he stopped competing doesn't mean he wasn't a professional gamer. You can't judge all his accomplishments due to him not playing any more. he's taken the next step and tryign to help gaming go a bit more mainstream. I say good luck to him and well done for all he has done.

To be competitive at the top, you have to make the game your life.
For what exactly?

its jsut sad, maybe he's finally grown up, maybe he realises that he needs to do other things now or his entire future it going to revolve around playing computer games with children, which is going to look awfully sad when you get to later 20's early 40's.

i think we are agreeing here, not sure why you are responding to me :o)

Because his hands keeps typing and he didn't know what to do with the text.

He should pay his own trip and play quake.

he should have chosen noctis

this is my chance to make my progaming debut

give it to walter

maybe we should ask him if he can pay for vorpal as well?

walter is already going to qcon

What are the odds that he will play a game?

pretty good considering he's going with a ctf team and if he doesn't play i'm sure they'd rip his nuts off.

do you know if he is also going to participate in the duel tournament?

i've "heard" that they're going to trying and make it possible for the ctf'ers to play in the duel tournament without any scheduling conflicts.. so if that's the case i'm sure he'd play.

Wow, imagine the drama :)

if fat thinks hes having 95% of my winnings cause he sent me there, he is sorely mistaken!

I wonder why you think he would demand 95% of your winnings. Did'nt toxic and stermy get to keep all of their winnings to them selves, while playing under the Fatality brand, opposed to other organisations?

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Okay couldnt really interpret that as sarcasm at all, besides the fact that you talk about winning anything at QuakeCon. Lacks some sorta distinctness for me to associate it with a sarcastic remark.

Or maybe its just because I use Opera and not Firefox that I fail >_<

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enjoy being stuck in texas afterwards

See? Not a douche at all.

This is really nice of him. He's giving back to the community like he always says he does.

Edit 4 spelling error, its too early!!

yeah me2! I ran a quakelive tournament from start to end. I gave back, why arnt i fucking rich and famous. im not a douche! :( ok maybe some douche, douche is bad right? your american insults sound cute. I get confused.

yeah me 2! Ran several qw / q3 / cpm tournaments online and on lan. What did I get?! I got to spend money on those things if anything :)

you were rewarded with an impersonator named bl4ze!

You got my luv blaze.

and my AXE

only one tournament?
weak!

haha, same here =P

you're incredibly douchey and i hate your guts. You can cast damn well though, damn well indeed..

maybe because you stole his tiger?

sponsor noctis or gtfo.

sponsor noctis or gtfo

just gtfo

TITS or GTFO

Oh, sorry had 4chan in the other tab :<

I am amazed how some guys still find something they can whine about.
Oh noes, he gets attention... what? Nobody else is going to notice besides the guys applying for the trip.
And even if that would be the case... liam gets attention for being fat (sigh), so why shouldn't he for paying someones trip? just my 2 cents

everyone knows liam would trick them to get in the oven and he'd eat them.

Mnemic - Blood stained

Oh yeah!

Let noctis go!!! The man's got talent!!

good man fatal1ty. nice to see this

but people here are right, sponsor noctis to go. would add a lot to the competition that has been good to you in the past

might as well go himself and win it oh wait

he only plays ffa now

i wonder why

He should sponsor noctis.

He should not sponsor noctis

:D

and the rest of the ppl get entered into a ton of marketing databases ...good deal

exactly why i didn't enter!

tho its been said like 5 times already, just give it to noctis

You (everyone) can stop it now, he already offered it to me but i don't want to go since its on such a short notice and i cba with all the shit that is qcon rules (or getting used to that in just a few days).

Thx for the support but no thx.

What an greedy asshole, i mean he just wanted to send you to qcon to beat you in a showmatch... thank god you saw the light and refused!

Not sure how to understand what you said but fat seemed like a cool guy and isn't to blame for anything here...

i was being overly sarcastic, towards the guys who think every single time fat does something that he does it for the money/attention.

No offense to you/fatal1ty, really.

better find free 5 days and take home 5-15k $!

Why don't you do that? :D

No, really :)

Guard has girls in his basement he needs to satisfy.

Noctis has captives in his basement he needs to feed occasionally.

oh please, enough with the exaggerations.

We all know noctis was born and raised in a basement, and he can't just get out for Quakecon.

so what if you can't get totaly used to it?

way2spoil fat bashing over here m8 :(

You will sooo regret it. :)

One day you can tell your grand kids, either...

1) About the time you were given a free trip to USA to play in game tournament and had a holiday... (and quite possibly won some cash)

Or

2) The time you stayed home for 5 days because you didn't like the tournament format.

Hmmm.... :P

Logged in to pluss that

stopped reading at "grand kids" :p

He still got a good point noctis :(

different people like different things :)

do you even switch esr accounts during one day? O.o

i was so used to the other one, but now im staying on this one again :p

I for one will miss fjorgyn the Swede :P


/e

I mean, who the fuck likes Austrians?

me too :/

imagine fox winning it.

that'd be awesome :D


GO FOX!

you're a little too altruistic, it seems.

why, since i won't be there whats wrong with simply being a spec/fan and cheer for someone?:F

just think about maybe now fox will score a job testing games, win a bafta and try to brag about it to hundreds of unimpressed people!!!


A shit, I just made attending Quakecon sound bad to myself :(

so it wasn't a "prize" to begin with, nice..

Says the nazi who brags about an apparent physics and maths degree.

Congratulations, you followed a national curriculum that millions of other people achieve every year. You're still a boring, narcissistic, mis representing twat with a personality disorder and you've still not done anything with those bits of paper other than derivitive drivel.

Use your brilliant mind to invent a time machine, go back in time and die in a Hindenburg or undo the shame that resides over every German. Then I'll be impressed.

You're here because you're useless gaming trash.
I'm here to clean useless trash like you up.

Its that simple.

egd.

epic rage

unfunny + racist.. nice combo!

you're an embarrassment to our country

you need to be there! be the first austrian to win such a thing!

i bet there will be more "such things" in the future, no stress ^^

you could also win a new Mustang. :D

public transport ftw :D

btw. cause of my recommendation it looks like k1llsen will go, so you can be happy again :)

awesome! \o/

go and practice together RIGHT NOW! i wanna see him take the the best out of fox again.

pff, im back to being spec only again :p

wtf purri?

looking at lan performances in q3 duel I think killsen is ahead purri

bah, purri is great :o(

hey, I love purri and his style of play and think that he would deserve to go, just saying that k1llsen is a viable choice.

so did killsen win the draw?

dunno, ask vkl or CAREEM they seem to know something.

well, purri usually goes anyway.

and i've never followed the q3 slowmode scene so don't know who he is :D

the best german guy. all you need to know rly.

what mash said, best german guy, which puts him on about 13-16th place tournament wise. another fillup in other words

:D


he might make 11th to 14th though, since you and jamerio aren't going!

editing your post is such a jamerio move

:(


I always thought the 1 minute rule made it ok. :/

/e

I really really did!

lol how ironic!!!

hey! respect the 8)? !

? !

ru88?

ssp88

sp88 is g8-t

haaa haaaa haaaa

hate you!!1

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mine: http://www.fordvehicles.com/the2010mustang/?i...iew/No2471

:D

What are you talking about, if fox wins noctis can safely say that he's beaten fox and is therefore the best Quake Live player. ;)

Best to never play a game again until fox wins a tournament..

What rules are out of the ordinary? I thought it was a best 2/3 double elimination tournament. The only thing out of the ordinary is the 7 man pool, which I'm sure you know a majority of them. Did you really turn down a free trip? :/

probably ca2 and t9 :E

damn, german government won't give me an international pass in time :-(, so no need to participate.
Although I am not any more hardcore in quake,
it would still be cool to attend quakecon ...
but I definately will never ever go to the usa just to participate in quakecon ... :-), I think it would be cool to go there with the mountainbike and bike through the beautfiul landscapes, grand canyon, etc. :-)

I once got a new German passport inside of three days, it was only valid for one year though. Maybe they changed the rules I dunno but you could ttry again.

Just tell them you have a plane ticket and can't find your passport / forgot that you needed one, etc.

it's not so important anyway ...
there are many better players out there who should go there in the end :-)
qcon is anyway not anymore the same for me,
would have been cool to go there for me in the q1-q2 days ... :-)

We got this worked out on IRC guys:
[11:41pm] (Liam): send sonic
[11:41pm] (Liam): and sonic will send
[11:41pm] (Liam): vorpal
[11:41pm] (fatal1ty`): i might sponsor him a lil too and give him a place to train
[11:41pm] (sonic): i will carry vorpal in my arms
[11:41pm] (sonic): like a baby
[11:41pm] (sonic): babby*

zonic?

"No conditions were listed that you have to be in the USA so GL to all Europeans who wish to make it!"
Flawed logic, elitist.

Didnt noctis go to a lan tourney at some point for q3 but just quit halfway or something? Or was that somebody else and i am just confused.

That was last years eswc finals and i was already out regardless of playing my last group game (not that this was the only reason)

k1llsen is the chosen one. nice

Excellent!
Too bad the remaining 1000 people who sent an email to Fatal1ty will now receive weekly Fatal1ty ballz enlargement pills spam.

nicely done fatal1ty, best pick! :)

nicely done

One thought is to give it to somebody who is off in the middle of nowhere and may otherwise not make many tournaments.

e.g. python or phantom (if they are highly active).

I sent in my details but I doubt I'd be getting picked! :[

I don't think ph4ntom is very active, but he was just pure natural talent anyway. I think that ph4ntom does need to spend like a year in EU to get to the top however.

k1llsen got the spot

source?

he came on #esl-tv.ql and was asking where he was and then he said he'll announce it later.

nice

The post title is a lie. So is k1llsen the only person fat will send? when it said win i thought it meant everyones name goes into a hat and someone got picked out at random, not name based selection.

I don't know actually, just saw when he came on irc and said that he'll pick k1llsen.

then he should not have said it could be anyone he will give a possibility to get to quakecon ...
if he only wants pro gamers to come to quakecon,
he should make his offer explicitly "PRO-GAMER-ONLY".

On his page it said he will pick someone by hand and not random, and he said he'd rather send someone that deserves it

if what you guys spout is actual truth, then 90% of the people posting on this thread are right, fatality is an idiot seeking attention :o)

im not sure i understand why you think so...?

don't get me wrong i'm all for fatality picking someone like yourself/killsen/purri to go to quakecon, but to make a post that insinuates anyone can win is a bit stupid.

well, it's like applying to a job offer. The best ones get the job innit.

no i do agree, the best player should get the place *cough* purri *cough* but advertising it as thought it's all random and then blatently choosing someone you think should go is wrong.

k1llsen > purri :)

what? purri better than killsen? hmmm no!

I never saw the word "random".

I started to read the sentence and assumed it was Jamerio you were on about. I suppose both are really wow guys....

Then it's pretty clear he's only doing this because he wants some money, if he's sponsoring one of the best europeans that's not going (him and noctis) or haven't been sponsored.

Ye I thought so too, was hoping that some russian player gets the chance.

new interview with k1llsen, sadly its only in german
http://www.derquaker.com/?p=4162

Well a rough translation is that, he's only going so he can waste as much of Fats cash as possible. GL

derQuaker: Hi Marcel (k1llsen). First the rumor and now it's official: Fatal1ty is sponsoring your trip to Quakecon 09. How does it feel? Should we congratulate you? Do you feel honored?

k1llsen: It feels pretty good. It's nice to be the "chosen one" because I never went to a Quakecon before. I'm pretty excited about how the event will turn out accompanied by fatal1ty.

derQuaker: Care to tell us how it all happened?

k1llsen: At first I thought "fuck it" and just entered the contest without expecting anything. Luckily Noctis, who was fatal1tys first choice, declined the invitation due to the short preparation time and by doing so passed the slot on to me. Pretty nice and unexpected gesture from him to recommend me.

derQuaker: The tournament will start in 7 days which was too little time for noctis. Are you prepared to attend this years largest Quake Live tournament in 7 days?

k1llsen: I hope so. I'll study the two new maps (qztourney9, qzca2) that should be enough. My aim is on par anyway. I'm pretty sure I'll step on some players toes.

derQuaker: While we're at new maps.. how are they treating you? Other players have been training them for weeks.

k1llsen: It's probable the other players have a slight advantage but I try to compensate with basic game knowledge. A little luck is part of it anyways and I think qztourney9 is a very simple map.

derQuaker: When destruct heard you're attending QuakeCon he happily started anticipating a revenge after his ESWC 2008 loss against you. Be honest - does he stand a chance?

k1llsen: He certainly doesn't stand a chance - I'll win the thing! ;)

derQuaker: In the ESL.tv Razer Cup you lost pretty clearly to fox despite qualifying for the final. What happened?

k1llsen: I had a pretty bad day. I hit my shots but I played without brain. I hope something like that won't happen again. Nevertheless.. respect to his map control on ZTN.

derQuaker: In the final Fox distinctly lost to Noctis on 2 maps. Care to comment? Was fox cocky after his win against you?

k1llsen: Fox seemed a little bit cocky but I'm sure he didn't expect Noctis to play so strongly. Noctis played really well. He didn't leave fox an opening to find into his game.

derQuaker: Except fatal1ty are there any other sponsors who could support your Quake career? According to my information you have multiple offers from european top clans - how is it?

k1llsen: This far nothing has materialized. www.machtext.de (Roman Völker) is still supporting me. He's doing a better job than some "top" clans :).

derQuaker: We don't know what fatal1tys plans are behind the sponsoring. Some assume he wants to resurrect the Free Player Organisation. Can you imagine becoming a F-Player?

k1llsen: I don't know yet. Lets see how the week with fatal1ty turns out.. if I'd become one of the chosen ones I wouldn't be declined but the chemistry between us must be good.

derQuaker: Top 3 favorites for the grand title at this years Quakecon?

k1llsen: cypher, stermy, rapha

derQuaker: Thanks for the interview. Any shoutouts?

k1llsen: Thanks fatal1ty for the trip. I always wanted to go to quakecon and to win such a trip is something special. I'm very happy that fatal1ty chose me!

Cheers btl =)
nice interview, I hope he kicks some ass!

Thanks for the translation, hope you are ok if I add this on derquaker as well :)
http://www.derquaker.com/?p=4162&postTabs=1

n1

hmm... good interview... good luck to him and let's see who'll win QuakeCon 2009 this time... :)

k1llsen... stermy... cypher.... fox... rapha.... or spartie.... :)


good luck !!!!!!!!!

hfhfhf

+ chance, destrukt, dahang

Indeed, and I wouldn't rule out griffin or av3k as contenders for top 3, at least.

Soooo theres going to be lots of talent at this years QCon.

I look forward to epic matches.

how are they performing so far in QL?

2nd league tbh

congrats to k1llsen.

hopefully that's not really noctis' excuse, since it's pretty weak.

Pretty decent, fatal1ty. More of these 'good-works', and less promotion of Christianity, and you could turn out alright yet.

When I say less promotion of Christianity, I mean no promotion of Christianity.

YES, excellent choice fat! good luck killsen, I hope you perform well!

I think I just opened fatal1ty.com for the first time. Man, his web page is cool :)

http://bayimg.com/image/iadgkaacc.jpg

Just to clarify some of the fatal1ty bashing: He will compete in quakelive if there's enough money floating around the lan tournys. Personally I don't think he will do as good as he thinks he's capable of with the higher competition than q4, but I think he's got more potential than any other active american(others being dahang and rapha).

Pretty lame because he just wasted about 1000s peoples time, but good cus hes sending someone whos good..

Im glad i didnt bother..

I want to see youtube clips of fatal1ty communicating with k1llsen in English

bad english vs "oh, that was engilsh" :D

Just kidding. Good luck k1llsen!

how do you know fat speaks bad english

K1llsen and noctis would have been my choices. But I prefer k1llsen, since he has a family, he has a more "spectator - friendly" style and he doesn't need a coach to perform nice. Congratulations and enjoy qcon. You deserve it.

wow that's stupid

I see your point, but is just my opinion

oh, like going for all aim games? imo its a lot more intresting to watch noctis play with his solid aim and tactics.

Definitely. I've enjoyed watching noctis playing on LAN myself. And I am sure his performance wouldn't be like it has been on ESL TV invitational. In fact, he passed on being sponsored :-)

Should've given someone a chance that can't get a sponsor/team allready.

Didnt think that he would pick somebody from outside the US.
Nice move by fatal1ty, and good luck to killsen!

quit a surprise
what will k1llsen the n00b do there?
go k1llsen

it was predetermined days ago, this wasn't a competition lol
"win" yeah ok..

yay!

Grz to k1llsen, he could probably cause some dmg although I doubt we will see him in the top 3.

k1llsen has quit like 11times now since eswc

hes the german fooki heh :D

huh

unbelievable!

gratz killsen! super news! hope you have lot`s of fun there, don`t drink and play ;)

alles Gute.

Since it's paid, don't play, just drink.

Awesome thing for fatal1ty to do, have fun k1llsen

It was probably the "1" that did it.

+1 for that one! hah

hmmm, i thought tant they'll chose someone from america))) haha) gl, lucker)

The Christian priest says 'darkness' = 'evil'. In his narrow-minded, manipulative stupidity, he doesn't realize darkness is only a threat to humans because we cannot see in the dark. If we use night-vision goggles, flashlights, lights, sonar, a heightened sense of smell, or any other means of operating in the dark, darkness is no longer 'evil'.

But I suppose you should promote Christianity, so they can frighten more foolish people into becoming their instruments of profit.

And don't play mmo's. Imagine the scenario where you spend countless hours (and many monthly fee's), accumulating experience points, items and money, only to have your account hacked. That could never happen in quake.

ESR is flawless!