ESR - ESWC Masters of Athens is over!

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V1R7U4L

FIRST!!!!111

<< Comment #115 @ 01:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lovey - Reply to #1

IM ACTUALLY SECOND!!!222

<< Comment #253 @ 12:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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valvalis - Reply to #115

Having your post over mine doesnt make u 2nd.
Im the one and only SECOND!!!222 here

Edited by Valvalis at 13:05 CDT, 17 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #253

depends who you ask...

<< Comment #257 @ 13:10 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #115

Comment #115

<< Comment #2 @ 02:04 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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valvalis

SECOND!!!222

<< Comment #3 @ 02:07 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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T-B0N3

eehm its friday 16th or saturday 17th? saturday i assume?

Edited by T-B0N3 at 02:08 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #4 @ 02:12 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #3

its the 16th today .... which will make tomorrow (friday) 17th and guess what that makes saturday?!

<< Comment #5 @ 02:16 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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T-B0N3 - Reply to #4

lol.. student life is killing me :/ i honestly was convinced it was friday 2day :D

Edited by T-B0N3 at 02:16 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #8 @ 02:43 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #5

hehe

<< Comment #9 @ 02:46 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #5

"What time is it?"
"Thursday."

<< Comment #56 @ 11:07 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #5

lol i got tricked into it as well..i even joined irc channel :/

<< Comment #6 @ 02:36 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #4

and guess what that makes saturday?!

...assuming that time progresses in a linear fashion, which is up for debate.

<< Comment #7 @ 02:42 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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KekS - Reply to #6

it so isn't

<< Comment #104 @ 19:29 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Stev - Reply to #7

It is tomorrow.

<< Comment #10 @ 03:56 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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drago.

if there is no video stream i could provide one for the lazy people without quake

Edited by drago. at 03:59 CDT, 16 October 2008

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<< Comment #96 @ 14:42 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #10

would appreciate it ta

<< Comment #118 @ 02:34 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #10

yes please! ta

<< Comment #11 @ 04:09 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

once again i'm missing a big quake tourney. :-(((((

Edited by [mash] at 04:15 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #12 @ 04:27 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

I wish there would have been qlive instead

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<< Comment #86 @ 13:47 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #12

yeah...so that you couldn`t spectate...great idea :F

<< Comment #101 @ 15:43 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #86

with GTV included, ov cors :O

<< Comment #171 @ 07:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #101

so only people with beta invites can spectate, great

<< Comment #188 @ 08:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #171

that's your deduction, not mine

<< Comment #13 @ 04:33 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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exp!

here's another potential 1000 replys thread

oh wait, esr is dead.

Edited by exp! at 04:33 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #15 @ 04:47 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #13

i hope you have to eat your words!

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<< Comment #17 @ 05:21 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #15

you'd better call all the spammers you know :D

<< Comment #19 @ 05:37 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #17

ready and standing by!!

<< Comment #21 @ 05:38 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #17

Ah, fuck gotta prepare the appartment for the party on saturday :/

<< Comment #37 @ 07:21 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #21

you could tell all your friends that in order to attend the party they need to write at least 100 random comments on esr (not necessarily providing content.)

<< Comment #39 @ 07:44 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #37

doubt that would work. 23 already said they cant come :<

<< Comment #62 @ 12:02 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #39

wow, that's gotta be a huge party. only esr members invited i take it?

<< Comment #63 @ 12:10 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #62

of course. not like I know people from "the outside"

but yeah, I hoping at least 60 guests cause if there are less then the rooms are too empty :[

<< Comment #66 @ 12:23 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #63

just invite jamerio, he'll talk for 60 at the very least.

but 60 people in an apartment = wtf? it almost feels crowded with 10 here. o_O

<< Comment #69 @ 12:37 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #66

hmm, might be a good way to keep people of the balcony :D

Well, I live here with three roomates which makes for a good sized kitchen and corridor which have room for 30 people easily. Then we usually only have my room it's balcony open. But the balcony can hold ten, and my room is 30m�...

<< Comment #93 @ 14:24 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #69

wow, that sounds pretty awesome. our entire apartment is about 63m^2 all in all, and we don't have a balcony. :(

<< Comment #98 @ 15:28 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #93

about 155m� with high ceilings (almost 4m) and a sauna in the basement \o/

Our smallest room, for which we need a new roommate in december is 22. Wanna live in Germany for a while? :P

<< Comment #111 @ 23:48 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #98

under different circumstances, i'd at least considered it, but as it is now i'm living with two of the best people in the world and i really wouldn't trade it for anything.

you're still a cunt for having that nice apartment though. :)

<< Comment #68 @ 12:37 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #63

where do you live in germany....i`ll stop by ^^

<< Comment #72 @ 12:41 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #68

braunschweig

<< Comment #85 @ 13:44 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #72

mhhh damn it`s my fathers birthday... :P no seriously...and a litte too far away...already have to go 600km to get home

<< Comment #99 @ 15:30 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #85

excuses :p

actually then you would be the third guest i know due to gaming, but the other two actually live rigt around the block :)

<< Comment #252 @ 12:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #99

no really way to far...live in wiesbaden and going to bautzen at the weekend ^^

<< Comment #315 @ 17:09 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #252

A friend of mine lives in Mainz. He couldn't make it, tho :(

<< Comment #22 @ 05:39 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #17

Will try my best though

<< Comment #34 @ 07:12 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #22

-967 you can do it!

<< Comment #50 @ 10:17 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #34

967 bottles of beer on the wall, 967 bottles of beer, take one down***, pass it around... 966 bottles of beer on the wall!

EDIT: *** -- kinda hung over, can't think straight... ironic, innit?

Edited by lolograde at 10:30 CDT, 16 October 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #50

that would work \o/

<< Comment #53 @ 10:23 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #50

966 bottles of beer on the wall, 966 bottles of beer, take one day, pass it around... 965 bottles of beer on the wall!

All it takes is 10 seconds of copy and paste and some fricking dedication

Edited by .syL at 10:23 CDT, 16 October 2008

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SenT!neL - Reply to #50

965 bottles of beer on the wall, 965 bottles of beer, take one day, pass it around... 964 bottles of beer on the wall!

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becks - Reply to #54

965 bottles of beer on the wall, 965 bottles of beer, take one day, pass it around... 944 bottles of beer on the wall!

1 bottle per day, are you kidding?

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lolograde ' - Reply to #55

964 bottles of beer on the wall, 964 bottles of beer, take one down, pass it around... 963 bottles of beer on the wall!

They are just copy+pasting my screwed up, half-drunk original post.

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #57

963 bottles of vodka on the wall, 963 bottles of vodka take one down, pass it around... 962 bottles of vodka on the wall!

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Terifire - Reply to #105

962 bottles of vodka on the wall, 962 bottles of vodka take one down, pass it around... 961 bottles of SPAM on the wall!

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mietk - Reply to #119

961 bottles of vodka on the wall, 961 bottles of vodka take one down, pass it around... 1922 bottles of vodka????

<< Comment #24 @ 05:48 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #17

maybe i should mailshot all esr users :P

<< Comment #585 @ 03:32 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #24

less than 600..

seems i was right :(

<< Comment #628 @ 08:58 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #585

its your fault :((

<< Comment #641 @ 10:53 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #628

nah, it's esr site/host that was bugged/sucked.

noone is visiting this site anymore due to that.

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Nicky - Reply to #641

ye the air got blue over them issues when we were trying to get it fixed :)

<< Comment #14 @ 04:34 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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dadS

yes fucking yes, bring it on!

<< Comment #16 @ 05:20 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Sub_

So the final bracket will be played on saturday, am i getting that right?

edit: nvm I see. too bad I'll miss the group stages.

Edited by Anarki320 at 05:21 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #18 @ 05:26 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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uNhoLeee

be nice if they changed the rule set a bit and changed the map selection up.

<< Comment #20 @ 05:38 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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rep

i hope MaJunior will go around writing "#cpmpickup" on everyone with a permanent marker

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<< Comment #23 @ 05:41 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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sn1kzZe

i want nicky to be my mom :<

<< Comment #25 @ 05:48 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #23

im sure my kids would gladly give me away lol

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becks - Reply to #25

awwwwww :(

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #23

2good u don't wanna be her daddy

<< Comment #26 @ 06:12 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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spEEdbird

booo

how can i shirk work without a video stream? :(

<< Comment #27 @ 06:25 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #26

wont they let you install Q3?! gimme their email i will complain for you

<< Comment #124 @ 03:55 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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spEEdbird - Reply to #27

theres a stream now? :D

shotgun a connection!!

<< Comment #139 @ 04:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #124

ye its not official though but better than nothing

<< Comment #28 @ 06:37 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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SombrA

go spartieeeeeeeeee

<< Comment #29 @ 06:55 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #28

why you not going to replace link ?

<< Comment #87 @ 13:56 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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SombrA - Reply to #29

i dont have any invitation :(

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Liam - Reply to #87

BECAUSE YOU CHEAT HAHAHAHA

<< Comment #30 @ 06:58 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mic

what up with linkin?

<< Comment #31 @ 06:59 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #30

him and his team parted company

<< Comment #35 @ 07:15 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #31

y?

<< Comment #36 @ 07:17 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #35

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1622057

<< Comment #38 @ 07:25 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #36

that's just plain retarded

<< Comment #32 @ 07:08 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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DizzyMage

The line-up of players for this tournament absolutely smokes any of the other 08 q3 tournaments.

Edited by DizzyMage at 07:08 CDT, 16 October 2008

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #32

yeah the top of he top of the top..

and some greeks ...poor guys

<< Comment #33 @ 07:11 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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_Rapid_

cypher- cooller, fox-toxic..... man i can't wait for it!

<< Comment #78 @ 13:05 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #33

cypher-cooller owns fox-toxic imho

<< Comment #41 @ 08:01 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Putton

let the fireworks begin :)

<< Comment #42 @ 08:02 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mindz

what prize money distribution?

<< Comment #43 @ 08:04 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #42

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prize_money + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution

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<< Comment #44 @ 08:26 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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mindz - Reply to #43

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamer

<< Comment #47 @ 08:30 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #42

its in the post under "final standing", open the hide tags

<< Comment #117 @ 02:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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exp! - Reply to #47

OMFG SPOILER!!!!11

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Nicky - Reply to #117

lols

<< Comment #45 @ 08:28 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Fearghas

spartie has to win this tourney, our lives will be meaningless if he can't win in athens.

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Spart1e - Reply to #45

almost :P

<< Comment #46 @ 08:29 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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j0maK

Wifi actually works, there's 20Mbps of internet feed just for it. And there's a press area too. I work here :)

<< Comment #48 @ 08:31 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #46

yay now make sure Majunior gets his press pass thing please x or he will be very upset :(

<< Comment #73 @ 12:51 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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j0maK - Reply to #48

Majunior is here and he says hi. He also will upload some pics of the area before the matches begin later on. esreality.com will have coverage, unless we get him drunk or something.

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Nicky - Reply to #73

haha *wave*

<< Comment #49 @ 08:56 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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donka '

Dear ESR staff... AJAX the [+] link
Pretty please
with sugar on top

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<< Comment #51 @ 10:19 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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_agu

nice, linkin cant attend the event. why dont they invite czm?

<< Comment #58 @ 11:25 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #51

Because it's super easy to fly someone within 2 days from USA to Greece.

<< Comment #61 @ 11:50 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #58

Pff, Chuck Norris could roundhouse him there in instant time.

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<< Comment #65 @ 12:21 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #58

thought that has a flight directly to greece from us :) i mean, i think they have.. still from toronto too :) so i`d say, it can be 14 or 18 hours :)

<< Comment #59 @ 11:39 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #51

invite sombra ?

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<< Comment #70 @ 12:38 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #59

nice it can be so easy

<< Comment #770 @ 09:33 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #59

was this even meant to be a burn?

<< Comment #60 @ 11:46 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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crv

Noctis lose his sponso too ?
all player get sponso flag , miss noctis ?

<< Comment #64 @ 12:10 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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skint

interesting map pool

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<< Comment #71 @ 12:40 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #64

HAHAHAHAH

<< Comment #75 @ 13:01 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #64

lol

<< Comment #67 @ 12:34 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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xou

I think everything is ready for tomorrow : ]

<< Comment #74 @ 12:53 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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wheat

Will this last the weekend? Watching q3 matches on my big screen was very satisfying during ESWC in San Fran. Too bad the timing is gonna be wack...

<< Comment #76 @ 13:01 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Vo0 - Reply to #74

I'm not at home and I don't have Q3 installed on my laptop! :( WHAT DO I DO?

<< Comment #77 @ 13:04 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #76

torrent ftw.

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.syL - Reply to #76

who needs torrent
http://www.trisoup.com/easyq3.txt

<< Comment #663 @ 15:28 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #76

finish the beer and go home :P

<< Comment #89 @ 14:03 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #74

friday and saturday

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raithza - Reply to #74

I'm getting an overhead projector at my new flat. I am so much more awesome than you

<< Comment #224 @ 10:24 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #74

halp me with my next esr project, need your connexions!

<< Comment #79 @ 13:08 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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amOKchen

The main event will be spartie jumping out of the closet with cooller!

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<< Comment #80 @ 13:09 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Slava

Anton i Zhibo reshayut

<< Comment #81 @ 13:29 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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drago.

i will run a video stream at http://home.arcor.de/drag0/eswc.html

no idea how many users it can support, depends on the hoster (mogulus.com)

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<< Comment #84 @ 13:42 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #81

can you reduce the video quality of the stream so that it becomes smoother, right now it is very high quality but stutters

<< Comment #91 @ 14:11 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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drago. - Reply to #84

yeah im working on it :p

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wata - Reply to #91

maybe you should try to run a p2p video stream like octoshape instead ; dunno if there is one free to use though

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drago. - Reply to #94

yeah that would be the best, i just figured out that the server (mogulus) is causing the stuttering :(

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spesi - Reply to #95

What is status on your stream ? (thx for effort btw =)

Im at my office now and cant get home for gtv before tonight..

I hope you will get it up and running

cheers

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butcher_kgp '

is cooller serious this time or just fkin arnd

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spesi

Group A
K1llsen (W:0 L:0)
noctis (W:0 L:0)
Fx|matr0x (W:0 L:0)
Puppet (W:0 L:0)

K1llsen and Noctis will advance here, no doubt. but who will become #1 and #2 is very unclear.
Last demo from K1llsen here on esr didnt convince me at all, rather the opposit, he seem shaky and out of touch (like he usually do,but worse) , just some very nice aim in periods. i think he will get crushed by rapha\toxic\cooller. his mind is probably not focused on this , i dont know.
As for noctis I am not really sure, but his carebear attitude will be his death in this tournament. he will probably Destroy some opponents on his way to the void tho.

None of them will be top3

Group B
SK-Rapha (W:0 L:0)
LLL-fox (W:0 L:0)
Toxjq (W:0 L:0)
Virtuoso (W:0 L:0)

This group is interesting. I think this will be Raphas tournament. He has evolved to become one of the best players in the world. and i think it is because zero4 has tought him how to =)
In this tournament i belive he will have his quake3 peak.
His mindset is Solid in his games. together with good movement \ aim \ wit and tactics rapha will be extremly hard to defeat for everyone in this tourney, including cypher.

rapha will win group,

Toxic on the other hand has peaked long time ago. but with his underdog tag @ MoA i bet you my shorts that he wants to prove for the world that he is not just a fat stupid swede with aimbot.
actually i played him some nights ago, and he looks really strong. hes been playing his ass off for this tournament. and i know he will come more prepared than ever.

fox will not qualify from group. sry fox, just not strong enough =) your luck ended as soon you got in group with rapha and tox

Group C
srs`av3k (W:0 L:0)
RazerJ (W:0 L:0)
link1n (W:0 L:0)
Ons (W:0 L:0)
This group av3k and razerJ will qualify for play-offs.
Jibo the Hard Boiled Chineese RamboHulk is always difficult to take down because of his style and his skill with it. but he wont get to the grand finale, not this time jibo.

av3k himself tells the community that he lacks self confidence in q3 and wont win this tourney. i agree =) but he is very strong player and could end top 3. he will probably win vs jibo too.

Linkin has no chance =)

Group D
srs`Cypher (W:0 L:0)
mouz.cooller (W:0 L:0)
xlo.spart1e (W:0 L:0)
Adrian (W:0 L:0)

Cypher vs cooller.. hmmm
This is interesting lineup. cypher is a maniac these days and will put on a brilliand show in greece, no doubt. but can his insane aim and fast movement beat coollers extremely nice quake wit and huge experience ? it will be a great clash. looking forward to it.

sparti is able to beat cooller, we know. but not in athens.
i know cooller will come very prepared for this tourney,
he dont want a repeat of last tourney where he didnt leave groups.

Only thing thats sad with MoA is that its missing Zero4 =(
other than that. bring this shit on. gonna be SEXY SHITZ.

sry for my englesias.

cheers

GO RAPHA. YOU CAN DO IT

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<< Comment #97 @ 14:52 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #92

Yea would have been nice if we could see zero4, even czm there.
Would have made it some crazy lineup.

<< Comment #102 @ 18:37 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #92

I think you are under-rating fox

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<< Comment #103 @ 19:23 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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spesi - Reply to #102

i think fox already played his best matches. "New" and hungry rapha\toxic will both beat him in group play.
They prepare for this. he doesnt.

<< Comment #174 @ 08:00 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #103

well predicted, faggot

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<< Comment #202 @ 09:31 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #174

hahaha egd!

<< Comment #206 @ 09:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #174

:))

<< Comment #234 @ 11:12 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #174

roflstomped

<< Comment #259 @ 13:15 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #174

[+] me bitches, not funnyb, neither spesi

<< Comment #323 @ 17:53 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #259

y jealous, idiota

<< Comment #334 @ 23:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #323

sucky sucky ?

<< Comment #355 @ 05:57 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #334

face

<< Comment #107 @ 20:04 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #92

nice analisys ..or guesses how you call it

how exctly is the 2nd groustage mixed?
thats important aswell

rapha? he ..hopefulyl not .. he just has no charakter game ..just some mixed upped styles

fox it looks as if he just lacks this willing to win for all prizes .. cant imagine fatality giving up beacuse of heavy monitotproblems ..cant imagine giving up fatality ever..maybe thats the difference

noctis- only aim is not enough -> out groupstage 2

killer - a striker like the world has never seen bevore - will lose by risking and making some mistakes will cost him finalmacthes

jibo is very very good but it looks as if something is missing in his game ..maybe only some luck .. he can win ..but probalby wont

avek can be a beast . and with 2nd groustage and enough warm up games he can be the man

cypher is very very confident right now and he know how to win now.. but maybe hes a bit to arrogant and forgets to practise enough.. i dont think that hes the greatest what q3 has seen

so here the legends. toxic and mathafucking best player ever cooller

q3 s changed

q3 is horrible now

watched the avek vs rapha match on ztn. all weapons look total harmless ..plasma no chance to kill with that.. sg mg gl .. forget those.. rl . if you pick it your almsot that. rail . you can do some damage with it .. some ..lg is like with quaddamage ... 100/200 .. 2 sec later + a litlle lg b the oppenent donw to 50/0 --WTF

..
but toxic and cooller had the best lg out there .. so maybe with there mind and experinece and will to win advantage they can take it

im hoping for toxic vs cooller finals . would love to see the legends . the best of q3 and the bet of q4 fight each other

cooller is best on ztn and nodm9 but his hub and t4 is sure loss

toxic is win on dm6 and than ..i dont know i jsut know this guy can do it somehow

4cypher 3avek 2toxic 1cooller

avek will probalby win though

lets see

2 groupstages is oweseome ! and wait if cooller starts to feel his mouse really

long live q3

<< Comment #109 @ 22:41 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Alchemist03 - Reply to #107

yea man cooller russia wait... ---> your brain must be on fire vs toxic

Edited by Alchemist03 at 22:43 CDT, 16 October 2008

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[mash] - Reply to #107

man, sometimes i just don't know what to say about your posts. complete mindfuck.

<< Comment #151 @ 06:10 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #126

^your welcme

<< Comment #165 @ 07:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #126

:)))) Enlgish was tought in Soviet schools starting from the 5-th grade (till the 11-th) 2-hours a week. I don't doubt that it remained almost the same. Mainly, that's the reason you can't figure out what he is trying to say. You know it happens often that they speak English with Russian word order. Nevertheless very often I can't figure out his opint as well, though I'm Russian speaking:)

<< Comment #330 @ 21:43 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #107

Don't you just love when your top2 is eliminated in first groupstage?

<< Comment #358 @ 07:11 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tNaCarN - Reply to #107

Go fanboy cs or something you don't know shit about quake 3 or the players at ESWC Greece.

<< Comment #361 @ 07:44 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #358

^yeah rigth
watch the cooller games you will see hes the best still..
toxic was a bit disapoiting
avek will still rock

<< Comment #90 @ 14:09 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

just over 15hrs!

<< Comment #100 @ 15:38 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

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IF YOU DONT POST THIS TO 5 BROS THEN YOU ARENT A BRO

<< Comment #108 @ 21:56 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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Alchemist03 - Reply to #100

gogo jibo vaek waiting you ---->

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Edited by Alchemist03 at 21:59 CDT, 16 October 2008

<< Comment #110 @ 23:12 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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sinoXy

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

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http://www.spacearchive.info/military.htm

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http://www.eswc.com/masters/athens2008/?c=com...petition=2

<< Comment #114 @ 01:37 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #110

what?

<< Comment #112 @ 23:55 CDT, 16 October 2008 >>

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cbkkk_

Is there gonna be a stand-in for link1n? Would be a shame if not!

<< Comment #132 @ 04:32 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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MaJunior - Reply to #112

No there won't be a stand-in. The ESWC staff told me they couldn't find someone in time.

<< Comment #133 @ 04:36 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #112

don't think so, it was too late to find one

<< Comment #113 @ 00:42 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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XeroxHands

Just doing my part folks.......just doing my part.....and your mom

<< Comment #116 @ 01:45 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lovey

Goodluck noctis!

<< Comment #120 @ 02:53 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Terifire

My predictions:

Gas prizes will keep DEcreasing.

Obama will win the elections.

There will not be a 'white' christmas in the netherlands this year:(

That is all.

Edited by Terifire at 05:06 CDT, 17 October 2008

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pl4gue - Reply to #120

gas prices are decreasing here atm

<< Comment #128 @ 04:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #125

In holland as well but shhht dont tell terifire you'll spoil his fun:)

<< Comment #137 @ 04:43 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #125

same here, was pleasantly surprised

<< Comment #142 @ 05:06 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #125

really? that is wonderful news:D

<< Comment #147 @ 05:55 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #142

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/business/wo...il.html?hp

<< Comment #122 @ 03:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

you lot simply arnt spamming enough ....

<< Comment #123 @ 03:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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cbkkk_ - Reply to #122

people are still asleep / at work

<< Comment #129 @ 04:23 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #122

plus my spam then and recieve an extra reply ;-)

<< Comment #130 @ 04:23 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #122

spam..

<< Comment #134 @ 04:37 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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cbkkk_ - Reply to #130

i see what you did there

<< Comment #145 @ 05:26 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #134

If you saw me " Promoting ham in a can" then you are correct!

<< Comment #331 @ 21:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #130

mmmmm... ham.

<< Comment #127 @ 04:10 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

fucking shit. i wanna see this. :((

<< Comment #131 @ 04:26 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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XeroxHands

Am I going to be the only west coast person up for this? Sad :(

<< Comment #135 @ 04:41 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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wata

fox vs tox in 1h20min ? then tox vs rapha 1h later ? nice, hope gtv will be up

<< Comment #141 @ 04:54 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #135

wtf really?

<< Comment #143 @ 05:11 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #141

that's what's indicated in Group Stage 1 Matches and Fixtures, thanks to Nicky btw

<< Comment #136 @ 04:42 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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meh_

i look forward watching it after i get home from work :-)

someone please make quake 3 + cpma port to ipod touch/iphone so one could spectate games. not for playing, but only for spectating :)

<< Comment #138 @ 04:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #136

good idea

<< Comment #140 @ 04:50 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

someone record mvd and upload asap please :)

<< Comment #144 @ 05:12 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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By

ini

Country flags > stupid clan flags

<< Comment #148 @ 05:55 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

� dunno which gtv they are playing on :OOO

<< Comment #149 @ 06:03 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #148

Fuck you! I can't watch it!

<< Comment #150 @ 06:06 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #149

�k I found the room :D:D:D:D:D

<< Comment #152 @ 06:12 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^toxics lg looks murder

<< Comment #207 @ 09:36 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #152

yeah, solid 0-2 vs rapha

<< Comment #153 @ 06:13 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

NO MVDS FOR NOCTIS MATROX. FIX.

<< Comment #154 @ 06:14 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

GIVE US MVD

<< Comment #155 @ 06:14 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

jesus, mvd, pls.

<< Comment #156 @ 06:16 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

hello fucking greece, mvd maybe?

<< Comment #157 @ 06:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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crv

HELLO,
MVD PLS !!!

<< Comment #158 @ 06:45 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^some really bad luck for toxic vs fox ..hopfeefully this is not gonna to decide

<< Comment #159 @ 06:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #158

well, if he loses to rapha hes out. but i cant believe he didnt drop hub nor dm9, fox' best maps

<< Comment #161 @ 06:52 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #159

^fox is pretty equal on all t4 he would have won aswell cause toxics rail is really poor atm

with some luck he could have made it

<< Comment #162 @ 06:59 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #161

nodm9 is toxic's worst, thats for sure.

<< Comment #166 @ 07:36 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #162

hub ?

<< Comment #205 @ 09:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #166

no.

<< Comment #218 @ 10:01 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #205

he's equally terrible on both

<< Comment #160 @ 06:51 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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|shaydee|

Any hope of specing through videostream?

<< Comment #163 @ 07:00 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

esr schedule is *wrong*

http://www.eswc.com/masters/athens2008/?c=com...petition=2

Edited by Lethe at 07:03 CDT, 17 October 2008

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<< Comment #179 @ 08:15 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #163

ye they changed it at the last min for some unknown reason

<< Comment #182 @ 08:20 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #163

^no its jsut otjher timezone

<< Comment #191 @ 08:41 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #182

the swapped round 2 and round3.. i presume thats what he is talking about

<< Comment #204 @ 09:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #191

yes

<< Comment #164 @ 07:20 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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drago.

the stream is up for now, i hope the quality is ok, i think thats all that mogulus can handle

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<< Comment #168 @ 07:53 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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spesi - Reply to #164

So its a p2p streamer ?
in that case , is the reason for it to lagg so much as it does just because not enough people are on?

Mb try to advertise it on irc to get more on or smthing

its unwatchable for me atm, dunno about others on it tho.

<< Comment #170 @ 07:56 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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drago. - Reply to #168

no its not p2p - is it still unwatchable for you?

<< Comment #173 @ 07:59 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #170

its nice now! watchable! ta

<< Comment #178 @ 08:14 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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drago. - Reply to #173

meh it seems quite laggy to me atm, mogulus is being a cunt - i will try a diffrent approach in half an hour, duty calls - youll be stuck with this channel for now :D

<< Comment #184 @ 08:23 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #178

its much better then nothing :)

the hub game noctis v killsen was much smoother btw then the last game on ztn.

Edited by squishy at 08:30 CDT, 17 October 2008

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|shaydee| - Reply to #178

While i was able to watch noctis, now it's unreal :( Stream fucks up every 10 sec for a minute or even more :( Pfff... Damn proxy at work :)

Btw, drago, thank you much for tryin'!

<< Comment #195 @ 09:11 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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drago. - Reply to #193

im back, how is it now?

<< Comment #201 @ 09:29 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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|shaydee| - Reply to #195

Much better. Tnx!

<< Comment #211 @ 09:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #164

can you play porn during the break? ta

<< Comment #167 @ 07:51 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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tzz

haha where is your god now?

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<< Comment #169 @ 07:53 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #167

really no need for that

<< Comment #226 @ 10:28 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #169

always need to insult the weak

<< Comment #176 @ 08:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #167

lolol

<< Comment #187 @ 08:31 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #167

guess where your brain is

<< Comment #192 @ 08:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #187

Yes, in my head.

<< Comment #212 @ 09:45 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #192

and your head is? :P

<< Comment #213 @ 09:46 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #187

shut up faggot

<< Comment #227 @ 10:34 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #167

In group D

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<< Comment #571 @ 23:50 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #167

looks like his god really showed you

<< Comment #172 @ 07:59 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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exp!

ahahha killsen is always so lucky on hub, in the game with noctis i saw the same final with jibo at cpl italy :D

<< Comment #175 @ 08:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Slava

Fox is on fire!

<< Comment #332 @ 21:47 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #175

They said that the last tournaments as well =p

<< Comment #177 @ 08:08 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

FUCK YOU U FUCKING CUNTS

<< Comment #180 @ 08:16 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #177

*pet pet*

<< Comment #185 @ 08:31 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #180

i will keep on posting insults. it's the only thing keeping me sane.

<< Comment #183 @ 08:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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nekon

noctis $$$$ <3

<< Comment #186 @ 08:31 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #183

FUCK U, FAT GUY!

<< Comment #190 @ 08:40 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #186

rofl

<< Comment #196 @ 09:17 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #186

ATLEAST I CAN TOUCH BOOBS WHENEVER I WANT!

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<< Comment #197 @ 09:21 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #196

lolololol xD

<< Comment #250 @ 12:54 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #196

sounds like a fair trade

<< Comment #189 @ 08:39 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #183

\o/ $$$$

<< Comment #198 @ 09:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #189

omg hai squishy <3

<< Comment #199 @ 09:25 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #198

nekon xx <3

I like it when you touch your boobies:)

<< Comment #203 @ 09:33 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #199

and it's cheap to watch!

<< Comment #194 @ 09:11 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

�h toxic was real poor performance his dodging was horrible so was his positioning ..

<< Comment #200 @ 09:27 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #194

too dependent on his aim... he probably doesn't think about his positioning.

EDIT: Tox on hub =(

Edited by lolograde at 09:32 CDT, 17 October 2008

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Lamur - Reply to #200

cpm vq3 suks (c)tox

<< Comment #237 @ 11:52 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #200

i would say he lost beacuse of his poor aim.. rapha just hitted much more rails ..

<< Comment #303 @ 16:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #194

Played like he didnt have sound the whole tournament

<< Comment #209 @ 09:41 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold

Same ol toxic, would still love to see him play a friendly vs qlr

<< Comment #210 @ 09:44 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

Group C is such a joke. Also, my condolensces to Ons. =(

They should just cancel/skip Group C group stage 1. Send Ons home with a little dignity.

<< Comment #214 @ 09:46 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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squishy - Reply to #210

he might win this Ons guy!

.....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA im sorry :)

<< Comment #216 @ 09:51 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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cbkkk_ - Reply to #210

Yeah well since link1n didn't show up, there isn't really much going on in group c, but they should still play, that way Ons has a chance in advancing in theory at least.

<< Comment #217 @ 09:52 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #216

he's cannon fodder a la Ali N.A.B.

<< Comment #230 @ 10:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #210

it decide in which group in the 2nd stage the players get.
Either you get Cypher or you don't. Plus of course important for the the elim brackets!!

<< Comment #215 @ 09:47 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

toxjq-rapha all maps
noctis-k1llsen all maps
toxjq-fox aeroq
http://rapidshare.com/files/154904360/demos.zip.html

cooller-spart1e
cypher-spart1e
all maps
http://rapidshare.com/files/154958103/demos1.zip.html

spart1e-adrian t4
cypher-cooller ztn (cooller had to win 2-0 to advance)
spart1e-av3k nodm9, same situation for spart1e (?)
http://rapidshare.com/files/154990872/demos2.zip.html

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 14:56 CDT, 17 October 2008

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<< Comment #219 @ 10:03 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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tao

awesome to watch q3 games again!

i'm rooting for fox, hopefully he don't go all scatterbrained later on again!

<< Comment #220 @ 10:10 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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wolf_1

defeat never had the balls to tell toxjq

<< Comment #221 @ 10:20 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Dird

hub3aeroq3 - k1llsen [15:14] noctis
lolnub

Edited by Dird at 10:20 CDT, 17 October 2008

<< Comment #222 @ 10:21 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nukm

noctis \o/

Attached Movie: 66881-noctis.avi (3533KB)

Edited by Nukm at 10:22 CDT, 17 October 2008

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<< Comment #229 @ 10:43 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (d86-33-57-123.cust.tele2.at) - Reply to #222

haha that rocket was so funneh

- gring0

<< Comment #353 @ 05:18 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #222

Nice hud:D

<< Comment #223 @ 10:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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ashr

yea q3 is clearly an easier game than q4.

<< Comment #228 @ 10:35 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #223

Easier game perhaps, but tougher players?

Edited by Khorney at 10:37 CDT, 17 October 2008

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ini - Reply to #228

This was inevitable anyway, Toxic was only ever exceptional on one map, pro-q3dm6. He was good at hub3aeroq3 too back in 2005...

Rest of the maps he was average at best.

<< Comment #225 @ 10:28 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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ashr

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1608471#pid1608471

FUCKING GO FOX!

<< Comment #232 @ 10:58 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolvc

I see noctis is not playing for 4k, could that be because he is a child and forfeited due to a monitor resulting in his organisation having to pay his entire trip for him just to forfeit, simply because he is a crybaby and meant that enevitably eswc wouldn't reimburse him/the team

Kid needs to grow up.

Edited by nVc at 11:00 CDT, 17 October 2008

<< Comment #243 @ 11:58 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #232

iirc even if he played the game he wouldnt have reached the next round, ofc i could be wrong

<< Comment #300 @ 15:52 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #243

dont know the full story but i do know that because he forfeited, it meant that 4k had to pay alot more money as the terms were he attended and competed, so he should of just played and lost.

I could be wrong, but im sure thats how it panned out and he left because he felt bad that he wasted 4k's money

whether i have heard this and referenced it to the money spent on noctis outside of the main finals i dont know, but thinking about it, thats probably the case, either way it was lame of him to forfeit it anyway

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Anonymous (d86-33-57-123.cust.tele2.at) - Reply to #300

So, what you are trying to say is that you have no clue at all. You only want to spit some bullshit at noctis...
Why dont i see you blaming cooller about forfeiting his game after losing the first map against cypher?
I think somebody else needs to grow up - damn, could be you?

- gring0

<< Comment #328 @ 19:31 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #324

cooler doesnt play for a uk organisation and therefore i dont give 2 shits

noctis forfeited and wasted �� of an organisations money in some way, shape or form.

<< Comment #338 @ 02:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #328

so is the whole of esports

<< Comment #745 @ 09:14 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #328

how do you even know if 4K paid for the trip?

<< Comment #285 @ 15:07 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #232

doesn't the eswc from each country pay the ticket & hotel to the winner from the qualifier anyway?

<< Comment #309 @ 16:30 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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zech - Reply to #285

no, thats the wcg

<< Comment #340 @ 03:23 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #309

eswc pays hotel for all players and flights for the most players afaik

<< Comment #744 @ 09:14 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #232

LOL

you're so off and wrong as usual

<< Comment #233 @ 11:00 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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vkl

where`s the toxic will win spam now? all gone...haha you`ve all been proven wrong. just as i said...he`ll not get to second group stage!

Edited by vkl at 11:01 CDT, 17 October 2008

<< Comment #306 @ 16:07 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #233

fear 2009

<< Comment #661 @ 14:54 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #306

i don`t fear shit :P i know he can make it to the top...but not now

<< Comment #235 @ 11:24 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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per1klez

should have replaced link1n with vo0. :(

<< Comment #236 @ 11:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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oneroomdisco

Just as I had predicted (Think I posted a few times on this) that toxjc wouldn't do well at all.

You can't just take a year and a half off competitive gaming, play non-stop the week before, and expect to do well.

He took advantage of speed in Quake 4, but he can't do that in Quake 3 (no crouch sliding).

I couldn't believe how many people were saying Toxic was going to do well (aka top 3 or 4). Either fanboys, or naive.

I think the term 'Washed up Veteran' might be a bit harsh right now, but it's the truth.

<< Comment #240 @ 11:56 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #236

ouch, bro, that's harsh. =)

<< Comment #241 @ 11:56 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #236

he alomst won fox on dm9 ..just bad luck and was equal with him on hub till 12 min or so..

dont know why he played so bad vs rapha mabye still shocked by the fox games ..

watch the demos not the results

he did pretty well .. dont know just that he didnt remove hub - every other palyer palyed it thousends times exept him

<< Comment #261 @ 13:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #241

I wonder how far would your stubbornness go? What else should happen to make you accept, that toxic is nothing special in q3 duelling? man...

1%

<< Comment #263 @ 14:00 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #241

he knows fox's game better than anyone else. it WOULD be close when players of that level know each other inside out. he couldn't pull the same vs rapha though.

he definitely has what it takes to be at the top but it sure as hell won't be easy.

<< Comment #266 @ 14:16 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #241

ive seen toxic play a SHITLOAD of ql, he definitely didnt take a break for 6 months. why am i even bothering telling the biggest fanboy that though

<< Comment #664 @ 15:37 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #241

I'm not a big fan of toxjq, but I still have doubts on toxjq preparation. If he would care that much in vq3, he would have play that, not qlive. I think the main cause for toxjq was him to see how is he going in quake3 competitions anymore and to feel the present standards on this issue, with the main goal fixed on quakelive, so he may have an idea if should allocate future time to prepare for next year qlive competitions, or not. It doesn't seem to me he even had in plan to win this event -I don't say in the contrary he would have succeed.

Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 15:39 CDT, 19 October 2008

<< Comment #248 @ 12:50 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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koji - Reply to #236

washed up veteran? lol. His competition simply has more mileage in vq3 cpma than him. That and when was his last tournament? I'm happy he atleast showed up with the odds not in his favor; he'll definitely do well in QL

<< Comment #336 @ 01:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #248

Yet he claims the game is so easy, and he's been playing QL.

Face it, he got served.

<< Comment #238 @ 11:54 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme

That serious gaming flag made me think avek and cypher are half greek, half finnish

<< Comment #239 @ 11:56 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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garz

lool cooller out again... and i wanted to bet on spartie but didnt get my cash from the last bet :(

<< Comment #244 @ 11:59 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #239

sorry about that i had to pop out and no one else was about to cash them out :/

<< Comment #246 @ 12:18 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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garz - Reply to #244

no problem, its not real money :D

<< Comment #245 @ 12:03 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #239

I thought nodm9 was Cooller's map? =(

<< Comment #287 @ 15:08 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #239

i put all my money (about 600) on rapha in the rapha-toxic game. w00t =p

<< Comment #242 @ 11:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

cooller and toxic out ?

onoes

kill this spartie boy ..

<< Comment #247 @ 12:35 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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per1klez

wow, go spart1e. Great nodm9 match.

<< Comment #249 @ 12:54 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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timmah

Very good play by Spart1e.

Thank you for that, rock on !

<< Comment #251 @ 12:57 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

FAILED.

<< Comment #254 @ 13:06 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #251

ahahaha, tru

<< Comment #256 @ 13:08 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

�ts so no fun t o watch these aimwhores win..rapha spartie cypher noctis..

<< Comment #325 @ 19:03 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #256

Do not watch then.

<< Comment #333 @ 21:54 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #256

And Toxic is...?

<< Comment #369 @ 08:06 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #333

all braen!!!

<< Comment #384 @ 08:58 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #369

Like a Zombie amirite

<< Comment #258 @ 13:12 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

Maybe Cypher drops 2 maps (intentionally or otherwise) to Cooller and gets Spartie kicked out at Group Stage 1?????

<< Comment #262 @ 13:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #258

Seems like it wount work anyway...

<< Comment #260 @ 13:24 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

go fox! you are my (2nd) q3 hero after cooller that is

<< Comment #264 @ 14:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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enzo

JIBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

<< Comment #268 @ 14:25 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #264

JIBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOle ole ole ole! Oleeeeee Oleeeeeee, JIBooooolleee, ooollle ole oleeeeeee!

<< Comment #272 @ 14:29 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #264

JIBALITY!

<< Comment #265 @ 14:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

Jibality, QED

<< Comment #267 @ 14:18 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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donka '

GTV people - please announce the scores. I'm watching ESWC video feed that is stuck on inactive GTV channel and all i can see is global GTV chat..

........ yea, it's retarded, but that's all i got :))))))))

<< Comment #269 @ 14:25 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

telecypher defeated cooller on ztn

<< Comment #270 @ 14:26 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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donka '

TELEFRAGGED??? REALLY?????

<< Comment #271 @ 14:27 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

that telefrag is a disgrace to life.

I officially hate Cypher now, and root for everyone that plays vs him. :D

Edited by Lethe at 14:30 CDT, 17 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #271

What happened? I'm at work and can't see =((((

<< Comment #282 @ 15:01 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #278

When cooller was in the lead he was telefragged, then lost control and finally the match. But he didn't loose by one frag, and cypher played a little bit easy style on him, at some extend got hit by gl too many times, did not rush for the items, preferring to stay away and inflict damage, choosed an obvious pattern when he run form lg to ya through the corridor then got hit by cooller's rg, and so on.

<< Comment #291 @ 15:12 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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valvalis - Reply to #278

Cooller had to win both maps, 1st was ztn. Soon it was 4:0 for cypher, then cooller began to totally control the map (14mh + 17 ra vs 5+6), he played his best, like in the old times. It was 9:5 for Cooller in 12th minute, and it looked like he is going to win it, he had more armor and health then cypher, although he was beginning to focus on defense.
And on 12:15 when going for ra from plasma, he was telefragged by cypher, followed by three bad spawns.
It ended 12:9 for cypher, cooller disconnected.

1%

<< Comment #321 @ 17:23 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #278

also everyone was in extaz: cooller, omg, he is playing like in the old days
I don't think so. watch for the demo when you can
not to mention cypher did not drop ztn, cooller's best map

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phz - Reply to #321

cooller has said in interviews that he considers nodm9 his best map. That said, he's ridiculously good on ztn :)

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Aaron - Reply to #370

i think nodm9 being his best when comparing it to everyone else skill on it

but when it comes to ztn where everyone is stupidly skilled, you really see his magic

<< Comment #273 @ 14:30 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

jibo vs avek on ztn was pure..

<< Comment #274 @ 14:30 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

Edited by mefajpE^ at 14:31 CDT, 17 October 2008

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hi wotsup lol

way 2 ruin, telefrag =(

was a great game :D cooller deserved to win tho

<< Comment #279 @ 14:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #275

how does someone deserve to win? If they were deserved to win wouldn't they have won?

<< Comment #281 @ 15:01 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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rehepapp - Reply to #279

no

<< Comment #289 @ 15:09 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #279

cooller dominated pretty much the whole game, he outsmarted cypher several times, until that stupid telefrag, followed by some spawnfrags...

<< Comment #296 @ 15:24 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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DizzyMage - Reply to #289

Yeah! That never happens!

<< Comment #299 @ 15:35 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #289

hey at least he turned up this time ...

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stunt.us - Reply to #289

How can you deserve to win if you lose I don't understand.

If he played soo amazingly well and did everything so nicely and still lost why wouldn't the person who actually won deserved to win more. So, going by what you say Cypher deserved to win because even though cooller played so great he withstood that great play and still managed to win the game.

<< Comment #638 @ 10:22 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #326

Because sometimes you're just unlucky, that's why. Unfortunately, luck (telefrag) is a big part of q3. Weird logic you use imo, you use it in sports too? So a team can dominate the whole game, be way better and have lots of chances, but if they end up losing the other team deserves it willy-nilly?

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stunt.us - Reply to #638

He said cooller deserved to win because he so dominate,etc..

I just asked how can someone deserve to win. In sports if a team dominates you would think (atleast to me when someone use the word dominates) that the other team would be out of the game so that something that's so rare such as a telefrag would not have any effect on the game.

Let's say a in a boxing match someone is being outclassed and knocked down a few times(boxer B) but in the later rounds he rallies and knocks out the other guy. Now you could say that Boxer A deserved to win. But how could he have deserved to win? Boxer B apparently deserves to win for showing the heart to keep fighting and attacking. So, now who deserves to win? NO ONE "DESERVES" TO WIN, except for the person who WON.

Cooller played great,yes, but he made a foolish play standing in the wrong spot.

I don't know what's there not to get.

<< Comment #656 @ 13:10 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #649

I did and do get it, I just don't agree with it.

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hoens - Reply to #649

Because it's more like Boxer A was kicking Boxer B's ass, knocking him to the mat. As Boxer B is being counted at by the ref, the ref slips and falls and fucking kicks boxer A in the balls, followed by an elbow to the face. Boxer B then gets up, looks around, and with a shit eating grin on his face raises both hands cause Boxer A is now fucking dead.

That's about the amount of skill it takes to get a telefrag right there...

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stunt.us - Reply to #714

Well you could say it's like timing and ra or mega. Cypher apparently had a very good strat to get cooller up near where the tele exits and timed it perfectly.

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hoens - Reply to #742

I didn't watch the match, only the video. Cypher OBVIOUSLY fucked up. He tried to jump to RA, missed, and since cooller assumed that cypher isn't completely fucking incompetent, he tried to peak to minimize damage. Since cypher fell, however, and was losing anyway, he was going to give up a frag by going through the tele. Since cooller assumed that cypher didn't suck, this allowed the telefrag. So now, you're wrong.

<< Comment #759 @ 19:34 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #758

Nope, that is just your interpretation of the event. You can not say what cypher actually planned, only what you saw happen and thought he was thinking of doing.

The fact that you say "you're wrong" makes me believe you were only here to try and win something and have absolutely not knowledge to share or even an opinion on the matter. That is what I share an opinion. There aren't rights and wrongs when opinions are giving.

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hoens - Reply to #759

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You think cypher planned to miss the ra jump, and then planned that cooller would be in just the right position for the telefrag? Really that's your argument? "You don't know what cypher planned to do because you're not cypher?" Come on man, use your brain.

Secondly, saying that I "don't have an opinion on the matter" is just foolish. It's obvious based on my comments that I know you're wrong.

Getting back to the question:

"I just asked how can someone deserve to win. In sports if a team dominates you would think (atleast to me when someone use the word dominates) that the other team would be out of the game so that something that's so rare such as a telefrag would not have any effect on the game."

How is this possible? As I said, you can dominate and get unlucky. Example? Reread my comment on the boxer. Do you really think the guy who got killed cause the ref shot him in the face deserved to lose? Please learn to think.

<< Comment #762 @ 20:21 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #761

Just had to reply to myself after seeing that you're a stupid fucking American. Not just any stupid fucking American, but a stupid fucking American from New Jersey. I guess I would be pissed off too and make retarded statements on the internet if I looked like the guy on the left...

http://media.hostedfile.com/hostedfile/pdata/53387.jpg

<< Comment #768 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #761

You're basing your opinion on what cypher did on what you saw and interpreted from the event. What you saw was cypher missed a rj(no this is in your head that you think he did this by mistake) I say maybe he missed it on purpose to trick cooller, so he will have an idea where cooller would be and increase the chance of a tele frag.

The fact is, it come down to your interpretation of the event. You really have no idea what cypher was up to. The chances are he just made a stupid mistake, but it is also entirely possible the whole event was planned in his mind. To say someone is stupid based on nationality and then state because you can not comprehend the whole situation is just ignorance on your part of which I can not be of any help. The fact you are calling me names and such, just shows your morality. Someone of knowledge and wisdom probably doesn't make such comments.

Maybe you lack the ability to see things in different ways. I will not call you stupid though. I'm not trying to prove to you anything. I'm only pointing out that there could be other possibilities to a situation. Even though they may sound so absurd.

I still don't believe anyone "deserves" to win no matter how much they dominated a game. The winner deserved to win or else the other person would have won.

<< Comment #771 @ 23:03 CDT, 25 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #768

Except for the fact that what you're saying is retarded, you might have a point.

Problem is, what you're saying *IS* retarded, so you have no point.

Stop with the spray on sun tans, they're killing brain cells that you can't afford to lose.

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stunt.us - Reply to #771

WOW. You're a very biased person and just can't seem to stop attacking someone. I can't see an adult being so immature. I will have to go with you being very young. Then I can understand why you don't understand very basic logic teachings.

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hoens - Reply to #773

Kid, go back to popping collars and spiking your hair, cause your personal attacks just aren't working.

I'm smarter than you ever will be, and really that's all you need to know, son!

<< Comment #777 @ 13:09 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #775

What are you talking about? Someone who is intelligent wouldn't be using such stereotypical slurs against an individual.

<< Comment #779 @ 17:48 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #777

Apparently you're wrong again. Are you surprised? You shouldn't be, you've been wrong for a while.

<< Comment #781 @ 09:43 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #779

you're maturity shines through.

<< Comment #784 @ 20:42 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #781

I'm a bastion of maturity in this cesspit.

<< Comment #769 @ 23:15 CDT, 24 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #761

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You think cypher planned to miss the ra jump, and then planned that cooller would be in just the right position for the telefrag?

Honestly how much q3 have you watched? Watch the fucking video or the demo, if you think cypher was attempting to make the RA jump then you're very fucking dumb.

Playing a move that's not normal (normal in this case would be going for the upper health bubbles or sitting on the SG, hence cooller pushing forward) is what cypher does, he deliberately dropped down to the health so he could come back up, he didn't jump anywhere near RA, at most he was deciding what was the better move, the lower health or the upper health. That was _not_ a failed RA jump attempt.

Planning for a telefrag in a situation like that is stupid and I doubt he was doing it but I certainly think he was planning to come right back on top of cooller but he just got that extra bit lucky, it was a good move either way. I can't remember exactly and the video is too blurry to notice but it seems RA wasn't up when he dropped, and his health is way too low to sit on it for another few seconds considering how close cooller is so dropping down makes perfect sense.

Edited by Aaron at 23:18 CDT, 24 October 2008

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hoens - Reply to #769

TBH I don't really care. You're a moron who should really contemplate slitting his wrists for the benefit of humanity.

As for how much Q3 I've watched, I'd rape you to next year, so sit down you dumb fuck.

Seriously you mental midget, it's just a game. When will that get through your thick skull?

<< Comment #774 @ 14:29 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #772

Oh look it's an immature antisocial person raging about something. Really... what's your problem? No normal person with any intellectual ability would be so outrageous.

Is this your way of fitting in? Calling everyone names and thinking anything outside of your simple mind is "stupid" or "retarded"?

<< Comment #776 @ 19:26 CDT, 26 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #774

You're in over your head here, kid. Move along before I have to steamroll you again with logic.

<< Comment #778 @ 13:13 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #776

Spike hair and tans? You're very original and talented. The way you post makes you sound like someone who grew up in their parents house out on a farm and just got the internet. Are you that isolated from a society? You say you're so intelligent, yet use such idiotic remarks.

TANS AND SPIKE HAIR YO. It's like you're talking out of your ass.

Do you read your posts? Is there something where I am from that hit a nerve against you? I don't see where you're going with the flame though. I wish I was speaking to a grownup not some kid :(

<< Comment #780 @ 17:51 CDT, 27 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #778

Talking out of my ass? Have you seen yourself in a mirror? You have spiked hair and a spray on tan. Sorry for pointing that out.

Is the best you got "I wish I was speaking to a grownup and not some kid?" Please son, get some original material. You fucking lose at the internet.

<< Comment #782 @ 09:46 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #780

??? Everything you just said isn't original. How can you flame someone about non original material and then at the same time use the same kiddy flamebait?

I guess you've seen my profile pic and it hit some nerve or envy, jealousy and rage. It's a shame people still let things like that happen to them. Without fully understanding oneself we can never evolve into a higher level of consciousness.

<< Comment #783 @ 20:42 CDT, 28 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #782

Higher level of consciousness? You should really stop reading bullshit and actually try to learn something. Kids go through phases, your body is changing, things are scary, I get it. You just gotta tough through it and you'll be OK. Then you'll go through puberty and it'll happen again. DON'T PANIC!

<< Comment #785 @ 14:53 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #783

You have some amusing wiring.

<< Comment #786 @ 14:56 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #785

Said the guy who talks about "higher level of consciousness." Good one...

NOT

<< Comment #788 @ 19:10 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #786

says the guy..

LOL.....

<< Comment #789 @ 20:44 CDT, 31 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #788

Wow that didn't even make sense. Not that that's any different from anything else you've said, but this was one was pretty bad.

<< Comment #343 @ 03:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #279

thats the stupidest thing ever, officially.

<< Comment #373 @ 08:18 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #343

LOL! Or maybe you'r too ignorant to understand it, which is more likely.

<< Comment #383 @ 08:39 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #373

how does someone deserve to win? If they were deserved to win wouldn't they have won?

no, its just stupid, against all logic.

no comment.

<< Comment #446 @ 11:56 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #383

Actually it isn't against all logic at all. Actually it's very logical.

Again, you just don't understand it so you flame it. Think about it more. Maybe take a day or two.

<< Comment #607 @ 05:26 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #446

you ever heard of this thing, not really worth mentioning, its called *luck*?

<< Comment #626 @ 08:45 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #607

What is luck?

You could say a lot of it is luck. Who is the decider of what is more lucky than the rest? The fact is there are lucky occasions in all games. Just because something is rarer doesn't mean anything.

<< Comment #288 @ 15:09 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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DizzyMage - Reply to #275

No he didn't.

<< Comment #354 @ 05:22 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #288

Yes he did.

<< Comment #409 @ 09:47 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #354

No he didn't.

<< Comment #431 @ 10:31 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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hi wotsup lol - Reply to #409

Yes he did.

<< Comment #408 @ 09:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #288

Yes he did.

<< Comment #276 @ 14:30 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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tom

man i've got a lot of demos to watch

<< Comment #277 @ 14:37 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

loser's pizza for toxic and cooller!

<< Comment #280 @ 14:55 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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drago.

ill stop the stream for today, sorry for the lag or staring at empty gtv rooms but i simply didnt have time today :P if there is a demand i might stream tomorrows matches too, hopefully with less lag

<< Comment #283 @ 15:02 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #280

do tomorrow please :)

<< Comment #292 @ 15:16 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #280

Thanks man, much appreciated. Do it again tomorrow.

Pity it's a little choppy, not your fault though :D

High five \o

<< Comment #301 @ 15:53 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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enzo - Reply to #280

thx alot for the stream ;)

oh, and do it again tommorow if u are able to...

Edited by enzo at 16:13 CDT, 17 October 2008

<< Comment #284 @ 15:02 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

i will make fixtures for Group Stage 2 ... but i need 10mins break

<< Comment #286 @ 15:08 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #284

I hope they pay you well, Nicky. Otherwise seems like a shit job. Especially dealing the tardwhine...

<< Comment #290 @ 15:10 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #286

pay??? job??

<< Comment #293 @ 15:16 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #290

OHHHH MMMYYY GOODD.... are you saying what I think you're saying?!?!?! =((((

<< Comment #371 @ 08:13 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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A_Spec - Reply to #293

Yes, women are getting paid, like wtf is this world coming to.

<< Comment #304 @ 16:04 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #286

the whine doesnt bother me... if it did i wouldnt do it xx

<< Comment #316 @ 17:17 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #304

and that's why we love you.

kinda.

now get those fixtures done!

:)

<< Comment #319 @ 17:19 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #316

they were done ages ago WAKE UP

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<< Comment #320 @ 17:22 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #319

whoops.

uhhh, i meant the single elimination fixtures of course...

I blame the beers I had to drink tonight in preparation for tomorrow :)

<< Comment #322 @ 17:25 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #320

haha

<< Comment #294 @ 15:17 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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per1klez

WOW... The Top3 players are in group2.

<< Comment #313 @ 16:48 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #294

hows that when 2 of them didnt even manage to win their group?

<< Comment #295 @ 15:20 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Dird

A
1st - fox
2nd - av3k

B
1st - jibo
2nd - cypher

<< Comment #297 @ 15:25 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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XeroxHands

Probably my fav part of the tourney so far was fanboys screaming for Tox's POV during the Fox matches (no mvd for a loooong time) only to have Fox win both matches :)

<< Comment #298 @ 15:29 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #297

Yeah, because no-one else wanted mvd :/

<< Comment #310 @ 16:34 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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zech - Reply to #298

what is "mvd"? :f

Edited by zech at 16:34 CDT, 17 October 2008

<< Comment #314 @ 16:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #310

multi view demo - means serverside demos except the opponents view is also on the screen as a small box in the corner so you can still see if theyre about to bump into each other. it also lets people choose which player to watch on gtv instead of being decided by the camera man. - very cool feature basically

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<< Comment #337 @ 01:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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zech - Reply to #314

Kudos D�rd - Helpful as always!

<< Comment #341 @ 03:41 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #337

helpfull is dirds second name

<< Comment #532 @ 16:35 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #341

is that bad english (meaning middle name) or a joke (as in first name being not)? =)

<< Comment #317 @ 17:18 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #297

not me

<< Comment #318 @ 17:19 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #297

wanting to see someone's POV doesn't make you his fanboy

<< Comment #302 @ 15:55 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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Deimos

Did anyone notice that group B is actually top 4 ESWC 2008? :)

<< Comment #307 @ 16:15 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #302

noctis fox and av3k are better than killsin and rapha though :)

<< Comment #347 @ 04:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #307

didnt doubt that:)

<< Comment #308 @ 16:19 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

FUCK YOU!

haha, tox.
haha, stupid german fanboy.

go k1ller&Jiboooooo \o/

FUCK YOU!

<< Comment #311 @ 16:36 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

Summary of a day one:

fox rocks the house
k1llsen sucking a bit
jibo +b human lg aimbot
cypher's a beast
av3k is still being out aimed
spart1e the dark horse
noctis really smart play
rapha decent performance

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<< Comment #327 @ 19:29 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #311

Forgot to add, GO-FOX!

<< Comment #312 @ 16:40 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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dadS

Thought Jibo looked good, he always does when he plays his aggressive game and his shaft is simply $$. Was impressed by Mr Spart1e his game against Cypher could easily gone the other way. Fox looked pretty solid too.

<< Comment #329 @ 19:49 CDT, 17 October 2008 >>

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AHXNXA

AAHAHAAH ROFL AT THE NOOB COOLLER =D

<< Comment #335 @ 01:14 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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vedic

Oh man, I didn't even know this started.

lol@toxic

<< Comment #339 @ 03:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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reyu

the cypher vs cooller and Jibo vs av3k games was just $$$$$$$$, I was smiling all the way to the end :>

<< Comment #342 @ 03:42 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

wake up numpties

<< Comment #344 @ 04:05 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard

I wish they would dedicate a warm-up time or atleast keep up with the times provided, it's redicilous that all the matches are always atleast an hour late.

<< Comment #345 @ 04:07 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

WARNING! RAGED COOLLER MATERIAL INSIDE

<< Comment #351 @ 05:12 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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sama - Reply to #345

I totally disagree with carmac with regards that cooller is supposed to win matches vs opponents such as spartie.

Dont know whether carmac knows spartie at all, but he is in my opinion on a top level, comparable with noctics, killsen and fox.

Edited by sama at 05:13 CDT, 18 October 2008

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Aaron - Reply to #351

yeah carmac is dumb :(

<< Comment #357 @ 06:49 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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blue - Reply to #345

objective journalism, that's what I like about Carmac

<< Comment #346 @ 04:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

they changed round1 and 2 of group b, didnt notice till it was pointed out. been changed now (i wish they would stop doing that)

<< Comment #348 @ 04:44 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

ztn masterclass performed by fox vs av3k

<< Comment #349 @ 05:07 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #348

fox must have been shitting his pants those 3 mins.

<< Comment #350 @ 05:11 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

wohoooo

Considering is on nice CRT monitors...

<< Comment #352 @ 05:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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reyu

Yesss

<< Comment #356 @ 06:44 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Rizzo

WC3 kiddies are playing on Eizo LCDs! That shit is $$$

<< Comment #398 @ 09:34 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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veal - Reply to #356

eizo ftw

<< Comment #359 @ 07:12 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

THIS -IS- SPAAARTIEEEE!! (great nodm9)

<< Comment #360 @ 07:21 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stripy

Each match result awards �group points� (hereafter referred as points) as follows: 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a defeat. At the end of the group, the following criteria apply orderly to determine the distinct position of each participant:
a) Higher number of points obtained in all the group matches;
b) Higher number of points obtained in all the group matches played among the remaining tied participants;
c) Higher maps difference obtained in the group matches played among the remaining tied participants;
d) Higher maps difference obtained in all the group matches;
e) Higher number of points obtained in tie-breaker matches played among the remaining tied participants (tie-breaker matches are organized specifically for the occasion);
f) Higher score difference obtained in the tie-breaker matches;
g) Steps E and F are applied again until no participants are tied anymore

<< Comment #362 @ 07:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_

fox out :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

<< Comment #365 @ 08:01 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #362

avek plays on :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

<< Comment #363 @ 07:55 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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gyr0

This shows how big of a joke group A was compared to group D for example. noctis and killsen both 3 losses

Edited by gyr0 at 07:56 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #364 @ 07:59 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata

I've watched a few matches, and usualy I keep in touch of quake news and compet and whatsoever, and I've absolutely no idea which sponsors eswc got -exept maybe nvidia (?)
I wonder how eswc manage to keep having sponsors and so keep being alive if they don't advertise them properly
maybe it's just me though, I may be ad brain-protected

<< Comment #366 @ 08:03 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

rules and format are ass!!
the deciding factor should always be direct match result

map count depends so much on people that may have no stake to play for.. this is just bullshit

bring back double elim brackets.. best system ever!

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<< Comment #367 @ 08:03 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini

lol @ jibo

<< Comment #372 @ 08:15 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #367

^jibo :((((((

<< Comment #375 @ 08:19 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #372

He's the most consistently inconsistent player ever.

<< Comment #368 @ 08:05 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Sub_

hello double elimination

<< Comment #380 @ 08:29 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (nat-4.ghnet.pl)

av3k for the win!:)

<< Comment #374 @ 08:18 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^so why is fox out ? by which rule is that? they have all 5 map wins

<< Comment #376 @ 08:20 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #374

He lost an extra map, same reason why rapha > jibo.

<< Comment #379 @ 08:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #376

this kind of rule is as relevant as a coin toss
I wonder why the very respectable eswc organisation fails to see that their elimination system is flawed

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ini - Reply to #379

It isn't really that flawed (It's not perfect but it is fair), the aim was to get the best map net you could and Fox/Jibo failed to and Spartie/av3k and Cypher/Rapha managed to.

What other options (given the double group system in place) are there?

The only one I can think of would be to get rid of the BO3 format with points for wins and simply have the players play 3 maps anyway (then there can be no complaints) with one point per map win (While we're at it lets make it 5 maps of 10minutes!).

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wata - Reply to #543

one extra map, rock paper scissors, bo3 pummel fight, spit contest, a Worms map with only bananas, etc
I guess my main idea would be to have an extra actual fight between the players who needs to be separated, and not having external factors to do that like "I won more maps vs this other guy so I won over you buddy" which to me seems pretty meh retarded

ofc time needed is the problem

Edited by wata at 05:19 CDT, 19 October 2008

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ini - Reply to #605

I guess my main idea would be to have an extra actual fight between the players who needs to be separated

Threeway tie in the group all equal on points/maps so they all play an extra game vs each other:

Player A > Player B - 2:0
Player B > Player C - 2:0
Player C > Player A - 2:0

Or whatever, this can go on forever and thus is impractical and only works if two players are tied. The best solution to the groups is to have all the players play an equal amount of maps against everyone in the group in the first place to minimise the chances of players being tied.

Edited by svalur at 08:41 CDT, 19 October 2008

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wata - Reply to #618

I think I'll go for the 3 players ffa pummel fight ; quick, fair and incredibly skilled. even stressful

<< Comment #377 @ 08:21 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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MarzenGold

:(
2nd goupe stage system sucks ass :<

<< Comment #378 @ 08:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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filo

let me add some spam

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa6/larry_...pam-ad.jpg

Edited by filo at 08:26 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #381 @ 08:33 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ashr

fox was robbed.

<< Comment #382 @ 08:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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meat man

spartieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

<< Comment #385 @ 09:00 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Veritas_

Latest demos

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<< Comment #386 @ 09:18 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stripy

will not stay to see the end, but just wanted to say:
regardless how it ends, congratz spartie, u really tore it up.

<< Comment #387 @ 09:22 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xou

GTVs will be shut down after the 3/4 final for a short delay.

Edited by xou at 09:35 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #388 @ 09:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tzz

proud!

Go spartie :D

<< Comment #389 @ 09:27 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

RAGED CYPHER

Edited by mefajpE^ at 09:30 CDT, 18 October 2008

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<< Comment #555 @ 20:47 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Lamur - Reply to #389

how make console like this?

<< Comment #637 @ 09:57 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #555

just use challenge Quake 3 client.

<< Comment #390 @ 09:27 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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enzo

SPARTASON :O

<< Comment #391 @ 09:30 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

spartie vs rapha finals --man noobfinals�

double elimation next time please ...

<< Comment #393 @ 09:32 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #391

idiot

this is most entertaining. Go cry for your q3 heroes

<< Comment #402 @ 09:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #393

more entertaining if you like stressed players going into raged edrama
otherwise db elim delivers better matches

<< Comment #415 @ 09:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #402

Everyone knows double elimination is better, no need to argue that point.

However, it is completely retarded to argue that it's a noobfinal just because some Quake3 legend is not in it. Spartie read Cypher like a book. Rapha playing really well.
All the matches I've seen were very entertaining so far. And if some get stressed and all e-drama then I guess they didn't deserve to be in the final to begin with.

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wata - Reply to #415

"it is completely retarded to argue that it's a noobfinal"
I guess yes ; I wasn't talking about that anyway

btw when I mentioned stress, what bothers me isn't the edrama which could occur from it (be it entertaining or just lame), but the lack of concentration/skill that it delivers to stressed players, so they play badly and so I'm not pleased of the show. fortunately I can then rage on esr to feel better

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stunt.us - Reply to #438

ROFL

dude STRESS and how PRO PLAYERS deal with it is in any freaking sport. The best overcome it and perform. No ifs ands or buts about it. If you can't perform under pressure that is nobodies fault but their own.

Single elim or double elim you have to be able to play under stress or get the hell out of competition.

<< Comment #495 @ 13:50 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #493

ofc there is gonna be a winner : the best one obviously
wtf are you on ? I'm just saying I prefer watching unstressed people play (pro players or not) than stressed ones, learn to read. and to me, db elim is less stressful, my opinion
don't bring me in this "best did/didn't won here" bs like if I had something to do with this, I'm not the starter of this crap and didn't said a word about that -second time I have to say that, yawn

<< Comment #497 @ 13:53 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #495

haha you don't understand english very well I see.

The point is, if players can't handle stress in any situation they aren't good enough. Handling stress is a skill. Some learn how to control others use it as an excuse for when their favorite players lose.

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wata - Reply to #497

The point is you don't get we're not talking on the same topic
you don't understand english very well

anyway :
"The point is, if players can't handle stress in any situation they aren't good enough. Handling stress is a skill. Some learn how to control others use it as an excuse for when their favorite players lose."
fine, you're ofc right captain obvious
yet I don't like much watching stressed people
and they could also put a pogo stick up their ass while playing so they would be even more stressed and in pain, so there the one winning would really be the one winning and shit blahblah, but I would not watch this I guess

<< Comment #544 @ 19:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #495

Any game in the Lower Bracket is just as stressful as the Semi-Final game of the ESWC for the players involved, the final is even more stressful for the one who is coming from the Losers Bracket as he knows he has to win two sets to become champion.

I don't know about you but that adds up to more stressful games/players and therefore worse games (by your reasoning), especially in the final.

<< Comment #609 @ 05:33 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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wata - Reply to #544

ye but if you're in lb you deserve to be stressed a bit, after all you already lose once and used your joker card ; about the less stressful thingy, I'm talking about when you're still in the wb, there you know you can fuck up once and still reach the top, which is obviously less stressful than single elim after groupstages (and avoiding groupstage ~~bollocks~~ frustrating situations like "if this guy win this other guy I'm out, if not I pass this groupstage")
anyway it's really a matter of opinion, so nobody will prove anything relevant here I guess
but I don't like the "number of map won" system to separate players who have won the same number of matches in the groupstage ; so this plus my opinion on the stress stuff, I'll definitely go with db elim system. but then again that's just my opinion, not a mathematical demonstration so whatever

<< Comment #405 @ 09:41 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tNaCarN - Reply to #393

The guys a dickhead he doesn't realise that the duel scene changed about 3 years ago when everyone quit PK to play Quake 4.

<< Comment #754 @ 13:13 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Varma - Reply to #405

Every 17 ?

<< Comment #394 @ 09:32 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #391

No clue.

<< Comment #403 @ 09:38 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #391

Sorry, but Cypher clearly was rizzaped on HUB like no other. Interesting Spart1e strat, he didn't bother with YA. He was happy with his RA and MH domination.

Cypher fell apart that game... he missed tons of easy rails.

<< Comment #419 @ 09:58 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #391

Spartie comes through a group against Cypher and Cooller, then fox, noctis and av3k and 2-0's Cypher and somehow you don't think he deserves to be there?!

What planet are you living on? :D

Another piece of trivia: Cypher has lost two matches - in DE, would be out
Avek would be out having lost 3
Spartie, Rapha have not and would still be in play

It's unfortunate for Fox and Jibo but the ESWC has its rules and people play by them...Noctis took a map off Fox in last round so was still playing on despite being out.

Edited by sabre0001 at 11:41 CDT, 18 October 2008

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<< Comment #545 @ 19:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #419

And k1llsen was clearly trying to beat Rapha to judging by the map scores.

<< Comment #392 @ 09:31 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

OMFG, Rapha vs. Av3k on nodm9 is INSANE!

<< Comment #399 @ 09:34 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #392

I know, I nearly choked on my pasta watching it.

You can't do shit like that wihtout the magic. Only a few players have the magic. it seems rapha is one of them!

<< Comment #400 @ 09:36 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #399

THIS MIGHT MAKE ME A BELIEVER... THERE IS A GOD!

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, Rapha has NERVES OF STEEL. I can't believe he held it together for that comeback. Unbelievably clutch play.

Edited by lolograde at 09:47 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #395 @ 09:32 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead

proud?

<< Comment #401 @ 09:36 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #395

ahaha, that was the cherry on top for Spart1e.

THE DARK HORSE RULES THEM ALL!

<< Comment #396 @ 09:33 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic

PROUD FOR SPARTIE

<< Comment #397 @ 09:33 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

How could av3k fuck THAT much up nodm9 is beyond me.

<< Comment #404 @ 09:39 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #397

Just like he fucked up at Masters on dm6 [against Cypher]... brain drain or something?

Edited by lolograde at 09:39 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #421 @ 09:59 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpc4-ando3-0-0-cust948.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

av3k needs to stop rocket jumping like a retard

<< Comment #423 @ 10:10 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #421

Rofl indeed

<< Comment #420 @ 09:59 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (proxy4.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de)

I would love to see rage videos on sk-gaming as they were done for cooller but this time for the semi finals of avek and cypher !! PLEASE CARMAC :)

<< Comment #406 @ 09:43 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

I can say, without a doubt, this has probably been one of the most exciting Q3 tournaments in a LONG TIME. And that Rapha vs. Av3k on nodm9 rivals the excitement of Jibo vs Rapha on dm6 (ESWC Finals '08) and also Cooller vs. Czm on dm6 (CPL Winter '06). FUCKEN BREATHTAKING. My heart was pounding like 1,000bpm.

Spart1e and Rapha, new blood, taking it to the HIZZERRRRRRRR

RAPHA = EPIC COMEBACK KID OF THE CENTURY

<< Comment #407 @ 09:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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vicek

yeah, spartie :) i was cheering for him

<< Comment #412 @ 09:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #407

Nothing against Cypher, but it's always good to have the top being mixed up... adds more fuel and competitiveness to the mix!

<< Comment #410 @ 09:47 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata

hopefully ql will be released someday (or maybe eswc will awake and switch to cq3. haha jk, not a chance I guess) ; as good as these players are, I sometime feel like watching cs, or a speedrun of monkey island 2
remboursez mon invitation

<< Comment #411 @ 09:47 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rupertt

ah yeah!
gonna be an awesome final.
Who would have thought spart1e would go this far?
Really impressive performance by him.
And rapha's comeback at dm9 is just epic!

My pants won't be dry this afternoon I tell ya!

Who ever wins really deserves it.

Go rapha and Spart1e!!!

<< Comment #413 @ 09:49 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rupertt

... I'm at the brink of tears :S

weeeeeeeeeeeee.

<< Comment #414 @ 09:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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c1

i dont got it... why isnt fox in the semi finals? He has 5 wins and 1 loss

Edited by crazyONe at 09:52 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #416 @ 09:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #414

Lost one more map than the others.

<< Comment #417 @ 09:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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c1 - Reply to #416

k

<< Comment #418 @ 09:54 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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enzo

A SPARTAN OWNZ ATHENS :o

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<< Comment #422 @ 10:08 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

wait a second. it's Rapha and Spartie for the final?????

<< Comment #424 @ 10:13 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde '

I'm gonna say it before any interviews...

Cypher's excuse going to be, "Didn't practice at all for Masters."

EDIT: LMAO @ Cypher's RAGEQUIT

Edited by lolograde at 10:26 CDT, 18 October 2008

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<< Comment #448 @ 12:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #424

when its true...

<< Comment #425 @ 10:25 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xou

Interview with spart1e!

<< Comment #426 @ 10:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

rofllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

<< Comment #427 @ 10:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

Man those WERE THE FUCKING BEST GAMES IN A VERY LONG RUN IMO. Almost every game had some incredible actions and LOL moments as well.

Seriously, best tournament since GameGune imo.

<< Comment #428 @ 10:28 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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son1dow

Great finals. Gz to Av3k - his win was well deserved.

<< Comment #433 @ 10:34 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #428

Except that Cooler would have owned him in case of NO FUCKING TELEFRAG.

<< Comment #467 @ 12:56 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #433

The telefrag was in a match vs cypher.. :O

<< Comment #501 @ 14:01 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #467

He would advance anyway, so it doesn't really make difference for him (yes, cooller is a big threat, but that not only for Cypher).

<< Comment #442 @ 11:16 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #428

finals? rapha and spartie are in grandfinal, avek placed 3rd

<< Comment #443 @ 11:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #442

nah... These were the finals with the best players.

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<< Comment #445 @ 11:53 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #443

well best players != players that perform best at the event

<< Comment #429 @ 10:29 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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hi wotsup lol

AV3K GG

CYPHER RAGE =D

<< Comment #430 @ 10:30 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Lethe

epic

Edited by Lethe at 10:31 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #432 @ 10:31 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

so now coming up is the last match Rapha and Spartie right. i'm ot able to watch and it looks like the page hasnt been updated

<< Comment #434 @ 10:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #432

Right, Rapha vs. Spart1e for 1st

I guess Av3k guaranteed third?

<< Comment #435 @ 10:39 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

Shame it's only 1 prize ticket to finals. TOP3 should be awarded imo...

<< Comment #436 @ 10:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpc4-ando3-0-0-cust948.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

WHY AM I NOT SEEING ANY PICTURES OF KING LEONIDAS KICKING CYPHER DOWN A HOLE???

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<< Comment #437 @ 10:53 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rehepapp - Reply to #436

SPART1ANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?

<< Comment #439 @ 11:02 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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_agu

spartie is winning because he is playing at home :(

<< Comment #440 @ 11:04 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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retire

cypher felt so guilty for telefragging cooller he couldnt face going to the finals

<< Comment #441 @ 11:13 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (089-101-108142.ntlworld.ie)

someone make a telecypher motivational poster, http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1623907

<< Comment #444 @ 11:44 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (koln-4d0b2098.pool.mediaWays.net)

Best Tourney ever! Even Noctis and Killlsen on 7/8 played extremely good! A ton of really sick matches! (For instance Killsen vs Jibo on pt4 was insane). Never had that much fun spectating!

<< Comment #447 @ 11:57 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

theres' no sound on the stream drago!!1

<< Comment #449 @ 12:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

EURO ~~AMERICAN~~ DUEL SCENE LOL.

<< Comment #450 @ 12:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rind

lucky 1hp surviving bitch, take god and put him/her/it deeeeep up ur ass

<< Comment #451 @ 12:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

worst winner ever ...

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<< Comment #537 @ 17:34 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #451

worst troll ever

Edited by timmah at 17:35 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #452 @ 12:47 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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f0cus

RAPHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!

:DDDDDD

<< Comment #455 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xoji

Unlucky spart1e :[
ggs

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<< Comment #456 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

2nd in 1st group stage
2nd in 2nd group stage

but won .. oh great

what a shit system

<< Comment #461 @ 12:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #456

No u.

<< Comment #471 @ 12:59 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #456

you're the dumbest poster on this site

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<< Comment #750 @ 09:33 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #471

can you fuck off with that nick

<< Comment #752 @ 12:59 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #750

no

<< Comment #480 @ 13:11 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (61.51.123.9) - Reply to #456

come on
at least he took avek jibo and made another god damn comeback

<< Comment #475 @ 13:02 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #456

so tell us a l33t supersystem that would fix that?

This is how all tournaments is set up. Not just in q3, but in cups and world championships.

Sad how people can't take it when their hero lose, they come up with all sorts of shitty excuses.

sweet!

<< Comment #574 @ 00:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #456

Raging fanboy has to face his worst nightmare! His fav players have lost and newcomers won.

LETS TRY TO RATIONALIZE ON HOW RAPHA CHEATED HIS WAY TO #1.

Yeah wont happen...

<< Comment #584 @ 03:32 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #574

all americans cheat anyway..

<< Comment #453 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

THIS IS RAPHAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I'm happy that he won. Dreams come true, only in America.

<< Comment #457 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic

SPART1E DESERVED IT ETC.

wp

<< Comment #454 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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meat man

Noooooo spartieeeeeeeeeeeee :( nice try buddy :D

gj rapha too

<< Comment #458 @ 12:48 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Syn-

The Lone American Wins!

Congrats Rapha, only caught map 3 but well played!

<< Comment #459 @ 12:49 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rupertt

oh man, gfgs!!!
congratz rapha!! I knew he could do it.

<< Comment #460 @ 12:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler

congratulations rapha. a half chinese american who is a member of SK

WHY DONT WE JUST LET GAY JEWS WIN THIS, HA?

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<< Comment #712 @ 09:27 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #460

don't forget he's super religious, also..

<< Comment #462 @ 12:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

unlucky spartie

<< Comment #463 @ 12:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #462

congrats Rapha

<< Comment #464 @ 12:54 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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reyu

congrats raphael ;D but you obviously where helped by god.. :>

<< Comment #465 @ 12:54 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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drago.

ggs, was a nice tournament

<< Comment #466 @ 12:54 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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valvalis

Haha didnt I tell you tox is gonna win?...oh wait rapha actually won? sh!%
Anyway wp rapha, congrats xp

Edited by Valvalis at 12:58 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #468 @ 12:56 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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wata

take that non believers !

<< Comment #469 @ 12:56 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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GreenBastard

well done Rapha, well deserved

nice video coverage by drago, especially the music

<< Comment #470 @ 12:58 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz

congrats rapha! :)

also thanks to all the admins and people who are providing gtv servers - was a great tournament to watch

Edit:
Congratz to Spartie, too - he really caused an upset and was playing surprisingly well. I think it is great that two players reached the final, who never were in a final before. Makes the whole thing much more interesting. :)

Edited by cYmoZz at 13:20 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #634 @ 09:34 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #470

didn't rapha already win smt? Might be wrong tho

<< Comment #472 @ 13:00 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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breathKILL

Rapha looked stronger on map3, perhaps Spartie was too nervous.
Was cheering for Spartie, but a deserved win for the yank.

Still, biggest highlight of the tournament for me was Jibo beating Cypher.
JIBOWNED!

<< Comment #474 @ 13:01 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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EmSixTeen

wtf. mad. Fuck work, why did I miss that..

<< Comment #473 @ 13:01 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xzan

t4 is so fucking weak

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<< Comment #478 @ 13:07 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #473

I think the map pool is allright.
you got 5 different maps, each with it's pro's and con's.

But I disagree, t4 should have been played more.
ztn and dm6 is just too overplayed imo.

<< Comment #587 @ 03:40 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #478

no the maps are all so fucking overpalyed you can vommit ..

i said they shouldnt change it because i though eswc 2008 is gonna be last tournement ...but it looks like its not
SO Q3 NEEDS NEW MAPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hopefully ql will bring some new up..in the best case only new ..

ztn can remain though

<< Comment #476 @ 13:05 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Terifire

Whoever is there ask for their configs, it would be nice to have their configs at the eswc demo section...

<< Comment #477 @ 13:06 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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He-Man

awesome job. USA baby.

<< Comment #479 @ 13:08 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Shardik

Nice final. T4 map is just great......More ESWC Master please !! Never the same Master :D

<< Comment #481 @ 13:15 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Derb_

USA NUMBER FUCKING 1 BITCHES. LET ME HERE YOU EURO'S TALK NOW SHITFACES. THANK YOU RAPHA. YOU SHOWED THOSE STINKY EURO'S WHO'S BOSS.

<< Comment #500 @ 13:57 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #481

why so angry?

your father cannot afford paying for the mortgage and is beating you?

<< Comment #586 @ 03:35 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #481

rapha only "good" cause he uses coollers config and palys russia style..

<< Comment #623 @ 08:19 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #586

ye, rapha cheated his way to the top!! :o

funny how that cooller config didn't help cooller!

<< Comment #482 @ 13:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ArKtiK

Yeah that's right - The ArKtiK has made his long awaited return just to point out that he use to watch some n00b named bLt hand Rapha's ass too him - he owned him beyond belief, the matches weren't even close. Now this lesser player, Rapha, is beating all of what the world has to offer.

Quake 3 competitively died and became a joke around 2004 when Fox started playing / coming in second in every single tournament he was in. Quake 3 has become a disgrace unfortunately, especially with the never released Quake Live.. Yeah wasn't that suppose to be a game or something? I think its just a trailer site thats been put up for over a year to represent an idea that will never happen. Its a dying beta now.

We will never forget the following "Gods":
LakermaN
Polosatiy
PELE-PK
LeXeR
ve-epalujo
Fatal1ty
uNkind
b100.death
CCCP.kuku
Aim

R.I.P Quake III Arena.

Edited by ArKtiK at 15:51 CDT, 18 October 2008

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<< Comment #483 @ 13:20 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #482

why so bitter

<< Comment #528 @ 15:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ArKtiK - Reply to #483

I'm not!
It's just the truth - and/or my professional Quake 3 dueler / historian opinion.

Edited by ArKtiK at 15:53 CDT, 18 October 2008

<< Comment #484 @ 13:22 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #482

R.I.P you

no, better yet, just R

<< Comment #485 @ 13:23 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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blue - Reply to #482

ve-epalujo
elpajuo

OK.

<< Comment #487 @ 13:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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reyu - Reply to #482

the troll has came back

<< Comment #488 @ 13:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #482

I think you're just sad because you have no friends thus no quakelive invite

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<< Comment #492 @ 13:41 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #482

2ez

<< Comment #494 @ 13:44 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #482

You obviously are some clueless crying kid. The level of play now surpasses any of these players. If you cant see that you are retarded.

<< Comment #560 @ 21:17 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ArKtiK - Reply to #494

So you're saying that spart1e could beat an in-prime LakermaN?

LOLZ

Even LeXeR would absolutely OWN him if he was in his groove.
Impulse beat spart1e for christ sake. Again, bLt use to OWN rapha beyond belief. bLt came in a measly 6th at QuakeCon.

Thus, the players I listed (if practiced, if in their prime - just like cooller) could compete with the top 2 finishers of ESWC MoA if not completely destroy them.

<< Comment #592 @ 04:04 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #560

Argument is null and void - the players aren't playing and as the old adage goes 'you can only beat what's in front of you'. Every sport has changes in personnel and rises and falls of teams / players. But you can't take anything away from people who compete at the top level at any time...

It's true that the argument will reign on (across all sports - best racing driver of all time? would x team beat 2008 x team?, etc) but doesn't mean that there is a point to the debate.

<< Comment #683 @ 19:49 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #560

Anyone on that list (except the greeks) could beat Lakerman. Its not like A always beats B. Everyone there is good and noone is unbeatable (fucking Cypher did 4 this time).

Stop considering these old school players as some kind of gods. They where the first players to play at a high level and raise the bar, but they are now long gone. Im not saying these couldn't come back and be able to get into the current level of play, but is not like if LeXeR, Lakerman etc would come back and beat the fuck out of everyone with a large margin (which is how you picture it). Just stop saying Quake is dead because new blood can kick your idol's asses now.

<< Comment #498 @ 13:55 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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OmeN_ - Reply to #482

muahahahaa! The worthless troll is back!

<< Comment #513 @ 14:15 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #498

isnt he still vastly superior to any "USA! USA!" brainwash victim?

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<< Comment #524 @ 15:07 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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He-Man - Reply to #513

yeah, damn those people proud of their country, even when going through hard times. DAMN THOSE ELITIST AMERICAN PIGS!

<< Comment #564 @ 22:31 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #524

Being proud for YOUR COUNTRY over one persons one-time achievements .. yea I'll stop there.

<< Comment #569 @ 23:09 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #564

If you're referring to my journal post, I think you should look up the definition of the word satire.

<< Comment #593 @ 04:08 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #569

I wasn't

<< Comment #580 @ 02:00 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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He-Man - Reply to #564

no, it's a collective pride, rooting for one of your own in most any situation. you couldn't possibly be retarded enough to think I'm solely proud of my country because a kid I've never met won a video game tournament could you? I'm proud of my country because of what we stand for (or I guess I should say what our founding fathers stood for, notsomuch our current situation, but that's another story), what we've done and what we'll continue to do as the greatest, most blessed country the world has ever known. THAT'S why.

It's just icing on the cake when we win in insignificant things (like quake...)

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<< Comment #594 @ 04:09 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #580

ROFL.

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<< Comment #639 @ 10:45 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #580

"and what we'll continue to do as the greatest, most blessed country the world has ever known."

American, born and raised, but this is as blatant evidence as anyone could ask for that you are not well-traveled. Nor well read.

<< Comment #659 @ 14:15 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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He-Man - Reply to #639

I am quite well traveled, and I ask you to name one country that would even compete. There's a myriad of reasons everybody floods here over the rest of the world.

<< Comment #660 @ 14:52 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #659

everybody != mexicans

when nordics, aussies, japanese etc. will flood the US then you might have a point... until then you're not even in Top10 Countries by Human Development Index.

plus you have republicans, guns, the creationist museum, unhealthy food and ugly fat chicks. kthxbai, you're not that special ^_^

Edited by Aquashark at 14:53 CDT, 19 October 2008

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He-Man - Reply to #660

LOL you think Mexicans are the only ones trying to get in? The United States has the highest amount of immigrants (over 3x that of the second place) and the highest % of population of immigrants. I don't think you want to know in comparison to your glorious Romania (I assume you actually live there) what the difference is...I wonder why the huge gap is? Maybe, JUST MAYBE we've got the most opportunity for success in comparison to the rest of the world? Ever heard of the American Dream? I do admire the flat tax you guys have now, but it must suck to have one of the lowest wage rates of any country in the world. Keep the democracy dream alive though...don't move toward socialism as we are...

Oh yeah, Americans and Republicans...awful people who played the largest role in ending the Cold War which helped set off the end of the Iron Curtain, allowing you to rid yourself of Communism and enjoy the freedoms you enjoy now there in the awesome country of Romania, like the ability to speak over the WEIRD thing called the Internet (certainly not created by insane people like Americans) to a lowly Republican American who has crazy things like guns!

Then again, you probably weren't even a blip on your parents minds, let alone born when the Iron Curtain fell, so I don't guess I should blame you, but rather your lack of education (which is, ironically, the one thing the USA does have a problem with, outside of our universities, which draws hundreds of thousands of people every year here from all over the world).

Fat girls, huh? yeah, we have a few, that's for sure. However, you obviously haven't visited Texas, California, or Florida to see in reality how silly we make the rest of the world look (with the exception of Brazil) in hot girls. And yes, I've visited Europe a few times...I actually have perspective.

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<< Comment #694 @ 01:19 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #686

stop praising your country like its the best out there. i wouldn't live in US even if you payed me.

Edited by illogic at 01:29 CDT, 20 October 2008

<< Comment #697 @ 04:20 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #686

Your country is a shithole.

Edited by terrorhead at 04:21 CDT, 20 October 2008

<< Comment #733 @ 00:12 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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He-Man - Reply to #697

thanks for the insightful, thoughtful contribution. you really made a solid case there against the usa and for yourself. well played.

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #686

sorry, but the Iron Courtain fell by itself
moreso in my country there was a violent regime change, two years before the Soviet Union collapsed.

stop abusing words like "socialism" thinking you're impressing someone with its bad connotation.

how can a person be free if it can't afford to live, care for their health and get educated?

the American Dream i guess - you have to be asleep to belive it!

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pl4gue - Reply to #698

ABC

Edited by pl4gue at 15:34 CDT, 21 March 2018

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ini - Reply to #725

The USA is just a rubbish version of Britain.

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illogic - Reply to #725

you are the retard here...and fyi Europe is not a country...

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[mash] - Reply to #686

CERN invented the internet.

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Anonymous (p54915BE7.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #705

al gore did

<< Comment #726 @ 13:36 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #705

CERN did not create the internet. They publicized it. It had been around for almost a decade before CERN came into the picture. Good try though.

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[mash] - Reply to #726

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

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He-Man - Reply to #727

World Wide Web does not = the internet. Sorry.

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[mash] - Reply to #734

nitpicking.

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per1klez - Reply to #686

you know you've won when the only thing anyone can say is "your country is a shithole!"

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f0cus - Reply to #659

what aquashark said.

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #524

too bad it's the same people creating or helping create these hard times

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Jamerio : - Reply to #482

All of those players were replaced (and some never did anything truly great) with people like Z4, czm, and cooller, and in case you've not been speccing they themselveshave been beaten/surpassed by a lot of the top players at this tourney.

You just need to respect and accept Rapha has just turned into a very accomplished player. I don't really believe it myself, but after winning this tourney and doing so well in ESWC San Jose, he deserves it more than anyone IMO.

Edited by Jamerio at 14:18 CDT, 18 October 2008

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meat man - Reply to #482

I almost beat elpajuo at CPL Winter 2005.

Long live the "gods".

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ini - Reply to #525

2006?;P

elpajou only briefly played VQ3 anyway

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flowrush - Reply to #482

will never forget the has-beens.

Live in the past much?

<< Comment #588 @ 03:41 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #482

post from 2002

<< Comment #596 @ 04:49 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #482

one more nobrain american :))) lol :DDDDDD u maked my morning so funny! thnx !

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falcuma - Reply to #482

Man, Nadal is not even fucking close to Sampras' best level!
Neither fucking Tiger Woods will, one day, do the putt as well as legendary Bobby Jones!
And even if Michael Phelps as reached the best Olympics distinction ever, he's not as good swimmer as Mark Spitz.

Your opinion just suck...
Go drive a GT40 at the 24H of Le Mans see if you own the Audi's.

<< Comment #486 @ 13:23 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

someone upload todays demos please, Larvi seems to have forgotten!

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Larvi - Reply to #486

I was busy all day, sorry :(
I haven't even watched the games myself lol

Edited by Larvi at 14:08 CDT, 18 October 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #503

tsk now we have no demos :((

<< Comment #507 @ 14:10 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #504

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2009/masters/athens/Quake3/ !!

<< Comment #508 @ 14:11 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #507

that only has day1 silly

<< Comment #511 @ 14:13 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #508

You can't always get what you want!

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Nicky - Reply to #511

still gonna blame you :P

<< Comment #514 @ 14:22 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #512

the job has changed you...

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Nicky - Reply to #514

lols

tbh ive had a bad day so blaming someone about now seems a good idea

Edited by Nicky at 14:24 CDT, 18 October 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #514

they are up now so you are forgiven

Edited by Nicky at 14:44 CDT, 18 October 2008

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Larvi - Reply to #519

You are a woman, you can never forgive

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<< Comment #517 @ 14:42 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #503

welcome to the admin world :p

<< Comment #489 @ 13:31 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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dadS

played spart1e
grats rapha

<< Comment #490 @ 13:32 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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reyu

I guess anyone who plays like this: http://s.sk-gaming.com/image/image/47ba47ff2e387a65m.jpg will win sooner or later :>

<< Comment #496 @ 13:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #490

403: FORBIDDEN

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rupertt - Reply to #490

you mean the way cooller and jibo plays?
worked pretty well out for them.

btw, have u seen toxic's config.
mouse 1=forward
mouse2=back
ctrl=fire

or czm's inverted mouse, or fox's inverted headphones?

i say anyone with a normal config's gotta get a serious can of woop ass!!

they're all mentals!

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Anonymous (217.217.84.64.dyn.user.ono.com) - Reply to #624

Fox plays with inverted headphones? Holy shit.

<< Comment #648 @ 11:31 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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reyu - Reply to #624

im talking about winning a tournament and cooller is done it quite a few times ;]

<< Comment #491 @ 13:37 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Putton

rapha proved he is capable to win a tourney. well done

<< Comment #499 @ 13:55 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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DizzyMage

He got beat by fox and cypher.

The whole group stage shit is stupid.

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gyr0

i doubt it matters what system they use, it looked like anyone can beat anyone in this tournament

in my opinion spartie,rapha,cypher,avek,fox,jibo and cooller were pretty even in this tournament and any one of those could have won it

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erok - Reply to #505

Nice, finally someone with a sensible post.

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GUArd - Reply to #572

top players all have good skills, everyone can win, so more lucky few rails/ rockets, few mistakes , lucky/unlucky spawns and "story" goes backword. it`s like NBA, it`s not days there MJ + Pippen owned all , now every team can win, same here.. but cypher , avek and maybe rapha showed that them skill are maybe higher then other a bit, cypher for sure 100% :)
sorry for lithuenglish !

system with 2 groupe stages are perfect!

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ashr - Reply to #598

cypher definitely has the best raw skills but his mind is weaker than rapha. i'm not talking about tactics but the ability to stay calm and play at a 100% even when the chips are down.

this is why none of them will ever be a cooller :D

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GUArd - Reply to #600

yeah cypha shows how cold he is, but inside he is another.. every time he lost, telling something childish.. still his performance are best, like was cooller in his days , but as u told cooller was more colder, but not atm :D look @ video , then he lost to cypher :D ofcors now his form not same as was years ago :)
yeah my money on Anton for best ever quaker :) ofcors we can`t forgot 2001 < daddies :)

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timmah - Reply to #608

Cooller was very good, always won and made cocky arrogant remarks about it. We hardly ever saw him lose back then. So he appears cold and calculated since he was never in any situation to be upset about.

Now he loses a lot and we see how he gets upset... the other side of the coin.

Edited by timmah at 06:07 CDT, 19 October 2008

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ashr - Reply to #505

exactly. fox made rapha look rather easy at the beginning of the tournament but he didn't even get past group 2 while rapha won the entire thing. it's a case of A > B > C > A (fox beat rapha, rapha beat spartie, spartie beat fox)

<< Comment #679 @ 18:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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rind - Reply to #599

how close was this "didnt even get through 2nd groupstage" please ?

<< Comment #506 @ 14:09 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Larvi

THE TRUE WINNER IS JIBO!!

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lolograde ' - Reply to #506

I gotta say Spart1e was the true winner. Coming from a medium seeding to disrupt Cypher's placing. Without Spart1e doing that, Rapha probably wouldn't have gotten first, imo.

<< Comment #509 @ 14:11 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tom

i'm jealous of you guys watching it live, looked like another epic eswc. gj spartie and rapha

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f0cus - Reply to #509

I'm at work, and was reading the interview with.. spartie maybe? Anyway, there was a link to some laggy (I'm in southern USA) stream, and I just happened to catch the last 5-6 minutes of the very last game. Oh man it was intense. Helluva comeback by Rapha. One for the books for sure.

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xou

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2009/masters/athens/Quake3/day_two/

Day 2 demos are up

<< Comment #518 @ 14:42 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #516

did they get cfg this time?

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xou - Reply to #518

it seems not

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Nicky - Reply to #520

ah well cant have it all

<< Comment #522 @ 15:01 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

grats rapha

I feel good that I have played the world number 1 and scored a frag or two !

<< Comment #589 @ 03:56 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #522

yeah world number one for ever and ever ..

<< Comment #597 @ 04:54 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #522

world number 1? after winning 1 tournament? he's a great player but Cypher's done better this year.

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funnyb - Reply to #597

yeah world number 1

alright? \:D/

<< Comment #523 @ 15:02 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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XeroxHands

Prepare for yet ANOTHER wave of Rapha interviews :p

Gratz to him though, well deserved :)

<< Comment #527 @ 15:41 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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revocelot

These 15 minute matches are too long. I think 12 minutes would be a little bit better.

<< Comment #539 @ 18:34 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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dansen - Reply to #527

you'd think they'd be 3 minutes better, am i right?

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revocelot - Reply to #539

HO HO HO I am in the presence of a genius!!! :O

<< Comment #529 @ 16:24 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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shqdow

grats to rapha and spartie, well played you two :)

<< Comment #530 @ 16:25 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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nekon

JESUS PREVAILS! \o/

<< Comment #531 @ 16:25 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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fanfreluche

Funny how karma works heh.

Cypher took time to mention Jibo wont ever win an event and got tossed out by him at the very next opportunity.

Fun stuff

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #531

=D

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apoxic - Reply to #531

Um, Jibo won the match. Cypher still made it thru to Semifinals, Jibo didn't. (Just think "tossed out" was the wrong choice of wording :))

<< Comment #718 @ 11:33 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #531

Who cares I'd pick Jibo any day over mindless shaftrushers

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fanfreluche - Reply to #718

I would have to agree.

Jibo's game feels much more complete.

Av3k and Cypher ( and most of the new school ) just figured how to maximize DPS.

Not taking anything off them however, they truly are good in their own respective styles.

I just think Jibo is one of the few players who manage to make the old quake 3 feel new with his strategies.

( and after meeting both Cypher and Av3k in real life, I prefer Jibo's approach too lol...trillion times less cocky. )

<< Comment #533 @ 16:46 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Dird

THE LORD GIVETH

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Nicky - Reply to #533

the lord taketh away

<< Comment #536 @ 17:05 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Dird

whats with cypher looking away in that 3rd SK vid? arent him & cooller mates? did cooller say something to him at that time?

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revocelot - Reply to #536

He said ok you took my money if you even look at me I swear I am going to beat the shit out of you. I heard it I was there :/

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #541

in this good english or do you undersrtand russian?

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oreozz - Reply to #590

o lord

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f0cus - Reply to #590

stop being retarded man.

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Dird - Reply to #541

he should have looked

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phz - Reply to #536

Haha, it actually reminded me of growing up playing games with an older brother with a temper. If I bet him at games or anything I just tried not to make any eye contact or talk to him, otherwise he'd likely beat me up :)

Cypher prob just felt dirty after winning like that over a friend and guy he respects.

The end of the other video reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQi8zFxrlPg

:D

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pl4gue - Reply to #542

rooofl that was pretty damn funny :D

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Khorney - Reply to #536

I can only guess, but my guess is that he would feel a bit undeserved about it? I know I would if my opponent was beating me and playing awesome, and then by a stroke of luck i get a frag out of complete luck and coincidence and that virtually wins me that game.

<< Comment #556 @ 20:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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cuj0

vods of ANY matches plz?!

<< Comment #546 @ 19:26 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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phz

Congrats to rapha for his first major win :).

Congrats to spartie for an awesome tournament :)

Hardluck for a bunch of players who got eliminated because of the elimination system. Felt really bad for jibo and fox who only lost one set in the tournament yet were eliminated. Like someone said previously, so many players were capable of winning this tournament.

Was cheering hard for jibo when he bet cypher. Cypher deserved to lose just because of the karma of his "never be number 1" comment :P. I suspect he couldn't quite pull it together after that loss.

lol@Spartie not voting yes to cypher's early map change in the semi-final. I suspect he was trying to get the young fella angry and unfocused for the next map :)

Awesome tournament :)

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vedic

Quake 3 manages to produce the least consistent tournament results out of any game. Even CS is less random than this.

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oreozz - Reply to #548

The better player generally goes on in both games.

I would complain about dota and wow for randomness

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vedic - Reply to #554

Technically speaking, at least they have consistent results. Who will be the next champion? Ali nab? The way this is going, it's entirely possible.

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oreozz - Reply to #557

spart1e just came in and messed everything up, otherwise things would look prerty much the same :D

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GUArd - Reply to #557

fu , go watch CPM duh!

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vedic - Reply to #601

no thanks, watching SC.

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ix - Reply to #603

Yeah, because it's not like the champion keeps changing in SC at all.

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #645

haha.. let's see how he'll try and fail to turn this around

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vedic - Reply to #645

It does, but the results are consistent. How is it that the top 2 ranked KESPA players made it directly to the finals in last season's Avertec Intel Classic? A big part of the shifts in SC comes from strategic trends. There seems to be no way with any certainty to predict who will win any Quake tournament.

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ix - Reply to #675

The results aren't consistent at all. Champions are infamous for slumping after winning in SC.

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vedic - Reply to #681

Examples? The top players were all consistent. Boxer, sure, he's slipped a bit, but he's been in the military. Nada is a pussy, and he cries over losing a game. Savior has been in a slump, but again, strategy trends shift the balance of power each tournament, and Savior just hasn't been keeping up.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #682

sounds like you're pretty much agreeing with ix...

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vedic - Reply to #688

These are isolated instances. Unlike Quake, there are a lot of people who play SC.

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ix - Reply to #548

It's not Quake 3 especially, just that at the moment the top guys are really close together in skill. If there were a few year-long series I think we'd see more dominant players emerge.

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vedic - Reply to #562

What of PK and Q4? They had the same problems but at least the lineup was rather static.

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apoxic - Reply to #563

Not as many good players playing them..?

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vedic - Reply to #566

In the tournaments? How so?

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #562

its the maps they are so outplayed ..

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Nicky - Reply to #548

i think its better than the same person winning all the time. when tox was winning every Q4 tourny it started to get a bit boring

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vedic - Reply to #576

At least it had some consistency so you could really tell that Toxic was a step ahead of #2. Right now, you can't be sure WHO will win next. There is currently no linear progression to any player.

I blame the boring part on Q4, though, not on Toxic.

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Nicky - Reply to #583

hehe

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lolograde ' - Reply to #576

I absolutely agree. And moreover, it's good for competition so top players go into tournament knowing they *could* be 1st and not thinking, "so-and-so just going to win again...". I think it adds a bit more competitive spirit to the whole thing. Seems like people playing Cypher weren't that bad, but they just couldn't take their eyes off the pinstripes.

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vedic - Reply to #643

That doesn't promote skill - it's basically the same thing we've been making fun of CS for all these years.

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timmah - Reply to #548

That's a good thing :)

<< Comment #674 @ 17:50 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #654

no

<< Comment #724 @ 13:33 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #674

Why not ?

<< Comment #730 @ 18:54 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #724

Any step towards CS is a bad one.

<< Comment #763 @ 22:40 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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stuntz - Reply to #730

6 million people sure would disagree :D

<< Comment #764 @ 22:49 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #763

They're in decline to games like WoW.

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Khorney

Rapha foresaw this tournament win 5 steps ahead of us all. Thats why he was so calm after losing the previous ones.

<< Comment #551 @ 19:52 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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ini

To all those saying that DE/Double Group ->DE > Double Group->SE...

With both systems there would have been some fairly big upsets early on (bar the Greeks who were just making up the numbers sadly).

The flaws of the DE system are far harder to eliminate than the ESWC system, fair and accurate seeding and a biased final.

The double group stage allows for broad seed ranges (High, Med, Low) which usually results in balanced groups for the most part, and then the group stages sort the seeds for the rest of the tournament based on live play and the final is a fair, unbiased fight contest for the win with equal pressure/stress inside the game/tournament structure.

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DamianLillard - Reply to #551

How are the flaws in SE/Groups easier to eliminate? What kind of meaningful way to compare things is this anyway?

The system eswc uses now emphasizes too much early-game matches over end-game matches, is needlessly more complicated to follow and sometimes sometimes stupidly outcome-dependant of indirect factors.

I don't understand how the seedings differ between these systems. I thought in both systems the starting situation would be decided by seedings, which can be altered any way you like.

With both systems there would have been some fairly big upsets early

Do you actually think this is any more fair system than DE?

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ini - Reply to #582

The best posssible situation would be to have a large tournament population, and lots of tournaments every year. In that situation accurate and fair seeding can occur and SE brackets can be used (The best system) or Group->SE (Like the Champions League).

Yes I do believe the system with the current situation is a fairer one.

The irony is that two/three years ago when DE tournaments were the standard all people would do is complain that the seedings were rubbish and that the final was an anti-climax. The general consensus was that the ESWC system was superior and should be used.

<< Comment #633 @ 09:31 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #625

SE brackets can be used (The best system) or Group->SE (Like the Champions League).

And SE brackets is 'the best system' because...?

Yes I do believe the system with the current situation is a fairer one.

Based on what?

The irony is that two/three years ago when DE tournaments were the standard all people would do is complain that the seedings were rubbish and that the final was an anti-climax. The general consensus was that the ESWC system was superior and should be used.

Are you able to dig the discussion up? I've been reading this site since xsreality times and somehow I remember it being the exact opposite... but I only have vague hunch.

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ini - Reply to #633

SE is the best system because it is the most competitive, winners progress and losers go home. Only the best survive and win, everyone has an equal chance to win in every game at every stage, there are no second chances and there are no dead games where the overall result doesn't matter to one player.

I've already said why I believe it is fairer given the conditions, re-read if you are still unclear or if you just disagree feel free to.

I'm not basing my statement on any discussion as such so I can't really link to one (Also, I doubt any good ones would be easy to find anyway given how old they would be by now), it was more the general impression I got from the comments on the site (And I've probably read way more comments than you despite you having been here since xsr).

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DamianLillard - Reply to #687

SE is the best system because it is the most competitive, winners progress and losers go home. Only the best survive and win, everyone has an equal chance to win in every game at every stage, there are no second chances and there are no dead games where the overall result doesn't matter to one player.

I've already said why I believe it is fairer given the conditions, re-read if you are still unclear or if you just disagree feel free to.

Your first argument is the argument of "the rules are same for everyone". How isn't this true in each of these systems?

You never argumented about fairness in a way that opposes double elimination in your post. What you do, is wrongfully synonymize sctrictness with fairness. That is - SE is the strictest system, not the fairest.

Why isn't it the fairest? Because of the natural randomness of who gets picked versus each other and randomness of the game. DE isn't the fairest system either, but I think it's a healthy and fun balance.

I actually think the final is often anti-climatic in Groups/single-elimination. Why? Because if the two best somehow end up on the same side of 'tree', then the final can't be between the two best players.

(And I've probably read way more comments than you despite you having been here since xsr).

Yes, it's just a guess. You can't possibly know how much esr I have or haven't read.

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ini - Reply to #690

My argument about SE isn't that the rules are the same for everyone it is that the system is the most competitive.

I never argued SE against DE in terms of fairness you are right, I was replying to a different thing in that sentence, a question you asked me about DE against ESWC.

Natural randomness? I've no idea what you are talking about here that would be any different in DE. As for game randomess well, we should probably try to eliminate that from the game as much as possible by improving the game.

Why? Because if the two best somehow end up on the same side of 'tree', then the final can't be between the two best players.

Re-read my statement on SE, that wouldn't happen.

It may be a guess but I've got a pretty good idea that I have.

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DamianLillard - Reply to #695

My argument about SE isn't that the rules are the same for everyone it is that the system is the most competitive.

If there's no lower bracket, does this make the system more competitive? Doesn't this only mean we will have more inaccurate and faster conclusion due to having less competition?
Even if you think SE drops contestants fast by limitating opportuneties and therefore is better, a viewer can still only watch the upper bracket, even though this is not the way I would rate the competetiviness of a system, only the skill level of the remaining contestants.

I never argued SE against DE in terms of fairness you are right, I was replying to a different thing in that sentence, a question you asked me about DE against ESWC.

But if you are second in your group, you have to still go through harder opponents, but without being punished. You gain by being worse and losing at the right time, compared to DE.

Natural randomness? I've no idea what you are talking about here that would be any different in DE. As for game randomess well, we should probably try to eliminate that from the game as much as possible by improving the game.

But there is random elements that have nothing to do with the game. Opposing styles, strong newcomers, etc. As the skill level tightens, it's harder to get clear image on SE how a single contestants specifically rate amongst each other.

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ini - Reply to #700

If your primary concern is finding out who is the best overall, then you don't even want a tournament in which any elimination takes place, what you want is a league. Just have everyone play everyone on every map, then have them do it a second time and add up the map wins/losses.

If you just want to see the two "best" players play each other forever, why bother with any tournament at all, just have them play each other over and over in show matches (With money on the line).

But like I said (or implied), you don't want SE when there is only a handful of tournaments here or there, you want it when there are lots of tournaments. Then you would get to see how they rank amongst each other.

Opposing styles, strong newcomers or players playing great tournaments out of the blue (Spartie here or SteLam win in Spain over Vo0) is what makes tournaments fascinating so I don't see the problem here.

But if you are second in your group, you have to still go through harder opponents, but without being punished. You gain by being worse and losing at the right time, compared to DE.

All I can say is they are punished by having to play the players who are objectively better at the tournament.

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ix - Reply to #625

General consensus between whom? I just remember one of the Esports columnists writing an aggressively stupid column on it. DE is by far the better system and I have no idea why people keep on fucking with it like this. DE finals are not anti-climatic at all.

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.syL - Reply to #647

For me DE is like this: Winner bracket games are interesting but lack the excitment created by SE games simply because there is no chance of elimination. Loser bracket games, while eleminating a player, are not as exciting because (nomen est omen) you've got two people who've already proven that someone is better than them battle it out for the scraps.
It all ends up with a grand final where the best of the losers has to beat the winner not once but twice. For me that's the definition of anti-climatic. Somone winning the whole thing coming from the user bracket is great and a major upset, but more often than not the outcome is predictable.

DE is only needed because there are hardly any tournaments to go around (and even then Groups>DE), but SE would be preferable if overall prizes would allow for players to go out early once in a while without taking too much of a hit economically.

DE would be much better if the final would be played SE style, which isn't uncommon outside the gaming world btw.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #671

I dunno, I think the point is to give each player a chance to play. If you go to a single elim tournie, and you get knocked out early, well that's not too fun. At least give the people a chance to play a couple matches.

Also, it kinda kills it for spectators as well since SE really dependent on good seedings. If there's bad seedings, you could see a good top player lose out too quickly. Spart1e got medium seedings and look how far he went? I think Spart1e was definitely the star of the tournament, he was the one player to step up and was pretty much the reason why Cypher got fourth. If Spart1e wasn't there, we might have seen Cypher at 1st place. And with SE, Spart1e may have been knocked out early.

Although I like DE more than SE. I think these group stages are both more interesting for spectators (more games being played) and more interesting for the participants (more games being played, again). It really is kind of weird that Rapha lost to both Fox and Cypher, but ended up first. But I think this is only indicative that some players style > others' style. Also, a lot to consider is how well a player can play under pressure (e.g., meltdowns like Cypher and Av3k).

But I think the important thing is enjoyment for both players and spectators = more games, more opportunities to win for everyone (Cypher/Fox/Jibo all had the same opportunities).

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ini - Reply to #647

I wasn't really thinking about RedEyes column although I did recall it. As I remeber that though it was more about outside spectators understanding of the system more than anything else.

Generally I remeber seeing a fair amount of Pro-ESWC system support on this site around 2/3 years ago, along with a lot of whining about seeds and rubbish DE finals. I seem to recall the CPL using a system more akin to ESWC than straight DE before their demise (But I can't recall what tournament so I'm probably mistaken).

.syl pretty much summed up my opinion on DE, I'm not overly fond of Groups either but for me it stops ridiculous seeding and anti-climatic finals occuring and works better for a game with little support tournament wise (Then again we've had 3 ESWC and 1 other tournament in the past few months...).

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lolograde ' - Reply to #685

I'm not overly fond of Groups either but for me it stops ridiculous seeding and anti-climatic finals occuring and works better

I think you summed it up perfectly. Seedings are so subjective and SE and even DE can kill a good tournament with a good line-up of talented players. Groups stages might not be perfect, but they're the best overall of the three, I think.

<< Comment #691 @ 23:28 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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hoens - Reply to #647

I love those double elimination tennis tournaments tbh.

<< Comment #553 @ 20:16 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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loveless

RAPHA WON
CYPHER SHOULD TAKE NOTES
RAZER MICE DO NOT MAKE YOU A CHAMPION
BEING 5 STEPS AHEAD DOES

<< Comment #559 @ 21:10 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p54A25BC0.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #553

now razer could show a picture where cypher plays with his ms3.0 or whatever and sayin LOOK he lost eswcMoA because he didnt used his awesome razer mouse xD

<< Comment #646 @ 11:08 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #559

uhh....
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1624359#pid1624359

<< Comment #558 @ 21:02 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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koji

way2go rapha!

<< Comment #567 @ 22:51 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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tog

Seems viewing a quake 3 demo has become more difficult with time not less. Since 2002 anyway. Just begun playing quake3 again for good times sake.

However i get a error when trying to watch the demos :
client / server game mismatch : baseq3-1/cpma-1

cpma 1.46 is installed with all the patches.
Seismovision 3.02 doesn't work, except for 1 or 2 old demos.

I have copied/pasted a quake3 directory from one hard drive to the system drive, so the game is not registered. Although my cdkey is valid. And there is a _ in the filepath.

Help would be very appreciated. :)

<< Comment #573 @ 00:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #567

load cpma...

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<< Comment #577 @ 01:31 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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tog - Reply to #573

i tried loading cpma...
and renaming the demo
and typing /demo in the console

.... but to no avail
i am still getting that error :(

<< Comment #578 @ 01:33 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #577

you have the correct point release and map versions?

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<< Comment #613 @ 06:06 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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tog - Reply to #578

At last i succeeded watching the demos.

I still had some old cpma 1.31 pk3, that's why i kept having this error.
...Deleted my old /cpma directory and made a clean install of cpma 1.46 and voila !

Thanks for your support :)

<< Comment #627 @ 08:54 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #613

ah good good

<< Comment #611 @ 06:01 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #567

If you used the "Quake 3 PRO Installer" or something then just reinstall and install everything manually. I got that error after installing Q3 with that installer.

<< Comment #570 @ 23:14 CDT, 18 October 2008 >>

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JocK

PROUD ?
PROUD ?
PROUD ?
PROUD ?
PROUD ?

<< Comment #575 @ 00:46 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead

Americans still the best quakers.

In your face euros boooo :D

<< Comment #579 @ 01:39 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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madix - Reply to #575

It's not american(s) it's american, and it's funny how the only american succeeding is using
russian style of quake 3 ;]

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<< Comment #581 @ 02:21 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #579

he didn't adopt a russian style of play, he adopted a russian style of sitting with your keyboard in your lap. ; ]

<< Comment #602 @ 05:06 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #581

and style too for sure!

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timmah - Reply to #579

Funny how the russians who made the style cannot beat someone who is only "using" it...

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rupertt - Reply to #610

lol idd.

funny how when someone beats someone using the same tactics, or outsmarts them they say; oh, they adopted their style, THAT'S why they won.

They want to have credit for something/anything.

It's like z4 said, you have to adopt to their style beating them on their own grownd, or find another way to defeat them.

Does it really matter what he did that made him win?

rapha is the new comback-kid, a few players can keep his cool and be down 10 frags and turn it all around.

Give him credit all you sorry asses, instead of crying about how he won and all that shit about style, config or that his style is russian?? geez!

atleast he played fair, and didn't +back the last 10 min of a ztn or t4 game, like some russian's are known for.

And I'm not even american!

.

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<< Comment #692 @ 23:56 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #630

thank you for that post.

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<< Comment #693 @ 00:39 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #692

What's even more funny is that when ever I say I'm NOT american... I get a plus! lol.
Thanks yanks! :D

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<< Comment #709 @ 09:12 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #693

Ahaha, jerk. [ + ]'d

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<< Comment #721 @ 12:34 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #709

rofl!

<< Comment #723 @ 12:41 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #721

xD

<< Comment #684 @ 19:50 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #610

Cooller/Cypher didn't play against Rapha and lose though.

<< Comment #604 @ 05:14 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Carpio - Reply to #575

Rapha deserved the win congrats to him but he is not better than cyhper, jibo, spartie, avek or fox. They are pretty much even. He was the luckiest this time. In the two group stages rapha lost two bo3 while fox and jibo only one and he still went on to the single elim.

Europe still better overall than the US. boooo ;)

Edited by Carpio at 05:18 CDT, 19 October 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #604

I don't think you're taking into consideration that it's just about skill but also about the ability to play under high pressure. Just the fact that Rapha came back on nodm9 to win shows how amazing he can handle pressure.

Also, I don't think he had anything to lose, but everything to win. That may have helped him a bit psychologically.

<< Comment #657 @ 13:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Carpio - Reply to #644

True.

<< Comment #614 @ 06:06 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (vis-master.poly.edu)

the strange thing about that is that I've hardly ever seen anyone doing that (on esreality). I see tons of idiots constantly going on about "LOL AMERICANS" or whatever it may be, though.

<< Comment #615 @ 06:08 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #614

Eh?

<< Comment #606 @ 05:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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cYmoZz

I updated my little map statistic:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1589198

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<< Comment #616 @ 06:34 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Godsmurf

Please show the players' national flags, not their clan logos. I want to know where they're from, not who is paying their travel expenses.

<< Comment #617 @ 07:08 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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noxene

rapha hymn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

<< Comment #620 @ 07:50 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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w1y - Reply to #617

:DDD

<< Comment #619 @ 07:50 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpc4-ando3-0-0-cust948.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

I can't find the demos of the loser's match between Cypher and Av3k - help me out please!!

<< Comment #621 @ 07:51 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #619

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2009/masters/athens/Quake3/day_two/avek/

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2009/masters/athens/...wo/cypher/

there maybe?

<< Comment #632 @ 09:23 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Shardik

Someone have the demo in Hub of the semi final match Cypher vs Spartie ? thx

<< Comment #635 @ 09:38 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #632

Just follow the links xou posted (1 post above you) and download the spartie vs cypher demo, it's both maps (~3.5mb).
DM6 and Hub

Edited by timmah at 09:39 CDT, 19 October 2008

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Shardik - Reply to #635

Thx Timmah

Edited by Nicky at 12:15 CDT, 19 October 2008

<< Comment #651 @ 12:16 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #650

use "reply" then he will be notified of your comment :)

<< Comment #655 @ 12:45 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #651

Lies :<

<< Comment #653 @ 12:34 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #650

You're welcome, little baguette ;>

<< Comment #636 @ 09:44 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #632

isnt that on eswc ftp site?

<< Comment #658 @ 14:00 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

just one thing to say : "THANK YOU ESWC ! YOU RULEZ !"

<< Comment #665 @ 15:40 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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rTx

so any of the people who sat behind the players can actual tell if every1 is indeed using fov 90 lol

<< Comment #666 @ 15:46 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

Cypher unbeaten at eswc masters, got beaten a few times in USA, then loose on Athens. Not that I don't think he is a great player, by now, with full capacity to win, but it reminds me when I said a few months ago that his superior performances are based on old top quake3 players not standing in their maximum shape, the shape which requires at least eight or ten months consistent training. Game is getting tight.

<< Comment #667 @ 15:57 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #666

Agreed, people getting some practice in and getting using to other player's style. Interesting and entertaining games.

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #666

and yes, I know, I'm evil

<< Comment #670 @ 16:40 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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[mash]

I would really appreciate it, if someone could make a "Top 5 must watch" list, so i can avoid watching boring demos.
He, who will put it together, shall receive a reign of [+].

FUCK YOU ESWC ATHENS.

Edited by [mash] at 17:54 CDT, 19 October 2008

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timmah - Reply to #670

Spartie vs Cypher Semi-final (just to have seen cypher getting plowed)
Rapha vs Av3k semi-final nodm9 = sex
and the Final I suppose

I know this is only 3, but I haven't seen that many games so I don't wanna recommend you anything I don't know about ;>

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<< Comment #673 @ 17:39 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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green - Reply to #670

jibo v avek ztn
cooler v cypher ztn
rapha v avek (semi final) nodm
rapha v spartie (grand final) nodm
cooller v spartie nodm

those stand out.. there were so many awesome sets though.
pretty much everything from group stage 2 onwards was sick.

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<< Comment #677 @ 18:02 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #673

Watched some more now, plenty of awesome games.

On a general basis, spartie is very entertaining to watch, not just because he was the dark horse this tournament. He seems to know where his opponent is pretty much all the time and how to surprise him or get some cocky shots in.

Edited by timmah at 18:03 CDT, 19 October 2008

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green - Reply to #677

agree, he is good to watch.. he hits so many baller rails

<< Comment #711 @ 09:19 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #670

Too bad you didn't watch the finals live. =( That nodm9 game had my heart pounding out of my chest. Was sooo intense!

<< Comment #680 @ 19:15 CDT, 19 October 2008 >>

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phz

If they are going to continue to use map wins to distinguish who goes through from group stages, shouldn't they ensure that players play all 3 maps?

Sometimes players will lose 2:0, but if there were a third map it might have been 2:1.

<< Comment #696 @ 04:12 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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dem0n

"I'm proud of my country because of what we stand for (or I guess I should say what our founding fathers stood for, notsomuch our current situation, but that's another story), what we've done and what we'll continue to do as the greatest, most blessed country the world has ever known. THAT'S why."

what you stand for: imperialism, world oppression, subtile endoctrination of the masses

what you've done and continue to do: 98% of useless wars, impoverishment of the third world, continual abolishment of the human rights and privacy, cold war...

The list is long. And about your scientific foundings, researches in the USA is only possible if it has any economic purpose to big enterprises. Unlike in Europe, for example.... Please inform yourself outside your mind-controlled society to realize just why everybody hates USA...

<< Comment #699 @ 05:24 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #696

what the hell is your problem?

<< Comment #701 @ 05:57 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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zech - Reply to #699

he's from belgium.

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<< Comment #704 @ 06:42 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #699

I have no problem with american folks unless they actually find a way to be proud of their country somehow although USA is more than probably the most massmurdering country of the History.

<< Comment #710 @ 09:16 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #704

I'm not proud of my government, but I am proud of [some] of my fellow citizens. Okay?

<< Comment #787 @ 15:04 CDT, 30 October 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #699

probably spent a lot of years in a basement...

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f0cus - Reply to #696

You should have used to 'reply' button. I'm thinking you've lost some context here.

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dem0n - Reply to #715

I did copy my text and used the reply button afterwards but did not delete the old message... cba

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evoke - Reply to #696

You're so original. The world really needs more anti-american eurotrash people.

<< Comment #719 @ 11:49 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #717

USA + Israel

Lovely. You're so not biased ;-)

Edited by terrorhead at 11:51 CDT, 20 October 2008

<< Comment #729 @ 16:59 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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sixide - Reply to #696

"And about your scientific foundings, researches in the USA is only possible if it has any economic purpose to big enterprises. Unlike in Europe, for example...."

This is a fucking stupid statement. 99% of research is already useful to business, and the other 1% will get funding too, since universities routinely do "garbage" research of little foreseeable economic benefit. And the funding boards of NIH, NSF, etc., who decide who gets grants? Yeah, there are plenty of academics there who will scratch the backs of each other rather than big business.

There's a reason US universites are full of foreign students and professors, and it's not because people like moving half way across the world to a place where nobody speaks their language just for shits and giggles.

Edited by sixide at 17:01 CDT, 20 October 2008

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<< Comment #736 @ 04:08 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #729

Don't elude yourself. It's not like the US is the only country with a lot of foreign university students.

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Anonymous (82-135-211-243.static.zebra.lt)

The best thing would be. That some good dude put all demos in one archive file and give a link to download. :x We all know how good demos goes under compress ;)

Thankyou :)

<< Comment #732 @ 23:44 CDT, 20 October 2008 >>

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cuj0

Will someone please convert some good demos to a format us civillians can watch? It'd be much appreciated :)

<< Comment #738 @ 05:16 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #732

i agree some1 plz

<< Comment #739 @ 06:35 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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shoxxr

There has to be something wrong with a tournament were a player (rapha) can loose 2 games 0-2 and go on to win the whole thing and another player (fox) looses 1 game 1-2 and doesn�t make it to the final playoffs ?? Unlucky fox and really well played, congrats to rapha.

Edited by shoxxr at 06:36 CDT, 21 October 2008

<< Comment #740 @ 07:18 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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OvO

lol cooller newb

<< Comment #741 @ 08:09 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Carpio

lol OvO newb

<< Comment #743 @ 09:10 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #741

use reply ... newb :P

<< Comment #748 @ 09:23 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Aaron

lol at the spartie praise, you're all fucking retards

what happened to hate he used to get? bandwagon much?

<< Comment #751 @ 09:43 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #748

you're starting to sound american :P

<< Comment #749 @ 09:33 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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PuPPeT

From my point of view FOX was the greatest of all.
He was very calm and smooth.
He was the only one i enjoyed watching him play and he wasnt arrogant like some other players.
This group stage thing is very unfair.

Fox ..you deserve to be No.1

..thats all, thanks for the games :)

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<< Comment #753 @ 13:06 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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smari - Reply to #749

who was arrogant (except cooller)?

<< Comment #756 @ 18:04 CDT, 21 October 2008 >>

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Spart1e

hihi.
Event was great. Weather was great! Only thing i really missed in Athens was a pool at the hotel :(

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