ESR - ESWC Quake3 Finals

<< Comment #1 @ 03:07 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Shardik

Goo Frenchies ....and other too :p

Edited by Shardik at 03:09 CDT, 24 August 2008

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<< Comment #14 @ 04:34 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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n0me - Reply to #1

Go Zimbabwe!

<< Comment #97 @ 16:13 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #14

zimbabue rulz

<< Comment #2 @ 03:12 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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_agu

:]z go foxz0rs

<< Comment #3 @ 03:15 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Kaloos

Go France !

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<< Comment #546 @ 14:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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r4ndsen - Reply to #3

how to downrate?

<< Comment #4 @ 03:18 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky

duno what happened to if-22 but he has no matches scheduled so presume he didnt go?

<< Comment #5 @ 03:39 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #4

Guess we're gonna miss out on some amazing matches....

<< Comment #8 @ 04:10 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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[TA]STiNGS - Reply to #5

exactly, I was looking forward to surely breath taking match if22 vs jibo @ nodm9 :(

<< Comment #135 @ 03:16 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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loveless - Reply to #8

or vs cooller on ztn
we may return from the edge of our seats

<< Comment #286 @ 22:13 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #8

you should have look backward then

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<< Comment #47 @ 07:49 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #4

i am :( too
didnt see that guy play in a long time

<< Comment #6 @ 03:44 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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GreenBastard

great work nicky

looking forward to this

<< Comment #7 @ 04:05 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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vkl

go k1llsen
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go jibo and noctis

<< Comment #9 @ 04:12 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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wata

nice post

<< Comment #10 @ 04:27 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

so if-22 +backed out?

<< Comment #12 @ 04:29 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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meat man - Reply to #10

WIT

<< Comment #43 @ 07:29 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #12

oh come on, it doesn't get old :(

<< Comment #16 @ 04:49 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #10

pfff where the hell is he? was really looking forward seeing him play =(

<< Comment #11 @ 04:29 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead

RESPECT THE PACO!!

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<< Comment #13 @ 04:30 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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meat man

Underline that "Trackmania - ESWC Final" cause that'll be me.

Fo sho.

<< Comment #32 @ 06:28 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #13

GO MOJO1

<< Comment #95 @ 16:06 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #13

if you do lose just kick an admin in the face & you'll steal the winners attention

<< Comment #678 @ 22:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lowje - Reply to #95

... and getting ban forever.

<< Comment #965 @ 09:30 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #678

its gaming. wig + fake id will do

<< Comment #15 @ 04:40 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

Looking forward to reading the usual gtv madness :D

<< Comment #19 @ 04:59 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #15

you're usually a part of that you know =>

<< Comment #23 @ 05:24 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #19

exactly :)
I feel like watching demos without the proper gtv spam isn't even half as entertaining

Edited by Larvi at 05:25 CDT, 24 August 2008

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bsk - Reply to #23

FU LARVI :/

<< Comment #66 @ 10:39 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #23

Larvi is always on gtv.

:D

<< Comment #81 @ 12:28 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #66

hi

<< Comment #86 @ 12:51 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #81

madbringer also!

<< Comment #87 @ 12:52 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #81

i dont wanna see any more fan madbringer zhibo!!11

<< Comment #38 @ 07:10 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #15

It'll just be the unoriginal spraying of cum everywhere

<< Comment #48 @ 07:50 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #38

unor.. what?? how dare you

<< Comment #17 @ 04:50 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

auch impulse =(, gl winning one map!

<< Comment #18 @ 04:52 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Xsi

why the fuck it isnt in weekend, i like to see and watch gtv @ night but no t when i have to go to work at the morning

<< Comment #20 @ 05:04 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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JCK

GO SP KRYSA GO!;)

<< Comment #21 @ 05:11 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ zrC

How come Finland dont have any top-players?

<< Comment #25 @ 05:42 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #21

they didnt have a qualifier

<< Comment #36 @ 06:43 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #25

They don't have any top players

<< Comment #42 @ 07:29 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Kruzz - Reply to #36

they got some decent players that prolly could beat some of the players in this event :<

<< Comment #52 @ 08:08 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #42

keyword: some

<< Comment #58 @ 09:19 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #36

Q2 players, hello?
QW players, hello?
CPMA players, hello?

<< Comment #60 @ 09:37 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #58

Well known Q3 players you've named there mate.

<< Comment #69 @ 10:43 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #60

Overall, in Quake genre, I'd say Finland has really awesome players.

<< Comment #108 @ 17:37 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #69

Who cares?

<< Comment #77 @ 11:38 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #60

For CPM top players, LuGia, Ahxnxa, and Ovo all hail from Finland.

I dunno about Ahxnxa and Ovo, but I think LuGia plays vq3 a bit... he probably would've taken the qualifier if they had held a Finnish qualifier.

Edited by lolograde at 11:39 CDT, 24 August 2008

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micke - Reply to #77

rat.

<< Comment #106 @ 17:34 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #77

CPM, not Q3.

This is in a thread about a Q3 competition.

<< Comment #113 @ 18:45 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #106

Ah CPM, the game people actually like playing.

<< Comment #114 @ 19:14 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #113

Irrelevant.

Finland still have no top Q3 players.

<< Comment #116 @ 19:16 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #114

Ah CPM, the game people actually like playing.

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<< Comment #117 @ 19:18 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #116

I'm sure they do :)

I'd guess all the people playing Q3 enjoy it too since it's not like they're making money out of it :P

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #117

Ah CPM, the game people actually like playing.

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<< Comment #921 @ 09:58 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ zrC - Reply to #153

Ah Stealing, the way to go if you cant come up with something yourself.

<< Comment #929 @ 10:48 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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cbkkk_ - Reply to #114

I don't think we got a whole lot of activity in VQ3. Maybe some of the (ex?) Q4 guys could do some damage if they still play, but honestly I got no idea.

<< Comment #970 @ 12:14 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #929

Yeah, I'm not saying you can't have any, simply that at this moment in time you don't.

<< Comment #341 @ 04:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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link - Reply to #106

vq3 you mean

<< Comment #636 @ 19:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #341

CPM is CPM, I've never seen anyone say CPM = Q3. The title says ESWC Quake3 (No V) not ESWC CPMA VQuake3.

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link - Reply to #636

jesus christ, have you lived under a stone for a few years?

cpm IS quake 3. its just modified.

... wow i never thought i'd see the day when i had to explain this to someone...

<< Comment #786 @ 08:34 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #763

Is CS HL?
When people said they played CS did they say HL?
No they either said CS or HLCS. CPM is sufficiently different in terms of its game mechanics to justify being considered as a seperate "game".

VQ3 is only required when discussing Mods, or when trying to help a new player try out Q3/CPM. The requirement for the term has only come about due to the CPMA-OSP merge, ideally they would still be seperate but with only arQon to develop it's not an ideal situation.

You all knew what I meant due to the context of the "discussion". So you can just go back to your little CPM world where the Finns rule at Q3 even though none of them do.

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link - Reply to #786

uhm, yeah, comparing counterstrike and halflife with vq3 and cpm is quite stupid. the difference is too big between the first two. and i dont think you need halflife to play counterstrike anymore, so i guess it would count as stand alone?

what arqon made of cpma vq3 has nothing to do with this, take your crying elsewhere.

why would it matter if finns where superior? i highly doubt they are but that doesnt belong in this discussion. sure they have some good players but i cant see where you're going.

another "thing" is that i hardly play quake anymore. so i'm not defending anything like you seem to think.

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ini - Reply to #789

I used the past tense for a reason. Besides the fact that CPM still uses Q3 textures/models etc it is quite different to Q3 bar the fact both are DM games. If CPM is Q3 then the only difference between any other DM game must be the engine and the textures/models/maps.

You should probably read the comment chain, as this isn't about Q3 vs other games or pointless terminology but about Finland having no top Q3 players.

arQon nonsense

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link - Reply to #797

wow.. i hope you're joking.

<< Comment #125 @ 23:59 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (65.182.170.147) - Reply to #77

hahahah lugia beating anyone in VQ3 is lol, even in FInland.
he's really bad.

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apoxic - Reply to #125

Anon has spoken. Go back to trying to beat bots plx.

<< Comment #336 @ 03:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Liam - Reply to #77

Lugia aims well, ahx and ovo are CA stars... you really should've mentioned rat :).

<< Comment #59 @ 09:33 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #36

reynir is a top player

<< Comment #61 @ 09:37 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #59

ddk is a top player

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<< Comment #67 @ 10:42 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #59

isn't he icelandic?

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ini - Reply to #67

Yeah

My only guess is he thinks I'm Icelandic and was making a funny :(

ps. reyn1r owns!

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<< Comment #860 @ 17:07 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #21

Essentially finland skipped Q3. They had an impressive ammount of top players in QW and Q2 though (definately in swedens class), but for some reason i dont think they liked Q3 :). A bit too cartoony for the hardass finns perhaps?

<< Comment #22 @ 05:23 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

what's the story behind arrw? =(

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Kruzz - Reply to #22

I think it was some cost issues sadly.. but we still have 1 swe player!!!

<< Comment #24 @ 05:32 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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son1dow

How can they put Ali I N.A.B. in the same group as all those noobs? He'll rape them!

Edited by w0rt3x at 05:32 CDT, 24 August 2008

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Mav_ - Reply to #24

yeah, I heard he'll be the villain in the next Batman movie

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<< Comment #26 @ 05:47 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

fuck!! what the fuck??
event fails at timezones and being scheduled for first weekdays!!

East Coast timezone would've been perfect.. :/

<< Comment #27 @ 05:49 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #26

i hope the time zone on eswc site is pst as thats what San Jose time zone is, or ive got a lot of changes to make lol

<< Comment #28 @ 05:55 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

if 22 :(((

Group C is so MURDER
Vo0 please let cooller and z4 pass the group!

<< Comment #30 @ 06:18 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #28

Vo0 needs to win and be like "OMG VQ3 NUBZ,, PALY MOREZ PROMODE!!"

<< Comment #31 @ 06:20 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #28

lolplz

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Gladius - Reply to #28

you actually think voo stands a chance vs cooller/z4?

<< Comment #35 @ 06:35 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #33

its possible yes think that Vo0 has chances vs both of them

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apoxic - Reply to #35

I wish it was true, tho taking his performance in D3porte I must have to say you're wrong.

But I'd love to see me mistaken :)

<< Comment #68 @ 10:43 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #33

if cooller hasn't been playing then yeah and I think he's capable of taking zero4

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Jubei - Reply to #68

Thats oozing optimism tbh

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Aaron - Reply to #128

why?

<< Comment #29 @ 06:15 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Splashhh

TOP8
K1llsen or Griffin ? ( or he break mouse again ? xD )

<< Comment #34 @ 06:34 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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raithza

Group C is shit, vo0 is going to have a tough time getting out of group :/ well gl anyway

<< Comment #39 @ 07:12 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cc965012-a.harli1.fr.home.nl)

if22 took the plane so kinda weird he isnt sheduled , how comee??:S:S:

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Kaloos - Reply to #39

Wrong plane : Al Qaeda air line :<

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<< Comment #53 @ 08:10 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #41

Can't see much going backwards I suppose (never gets old)

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ini - Reply to #41

ESWC 2004 all over again :(

<< Comment #57 @ 08:54 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cev75-4-82-247-118-6.fbx.proxad.net) - Reply to #39

Any plane with if22 in it prolly takes weeks to reach its destination.

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<< Comment #70 @ 10:45 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #57

Not if it goes in reverse!

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<< Comment #74 @ 11:33 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #39

no idea but there are no matches listed for him :s

<< Comment #46 @ 07:37 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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douille

Only 2 players going out of the groups of 6 is kind of bs .... especially when you have so many talented players innit. It doesnt leave space for outsiders.

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<< Comment #63 @ 09:52 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #46

yes true. in fact, in the '05 edition, 3 players out of each group advanced to the next group stage =<

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Aaron - Reply to #46

no it's not

every group has two solid players who are clear favorites they have just as much a fair chance of getting out fo the groups as does everyone else.

allowing more out just takes more time and favors the lesser skilled players

<< Comment #79 @ 11:56 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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douille - Reply to #71

I was thinking about the group C when writing this, the 2 spots are clearly taken by cooller and z4 (unless big surprise), and voo or chance could have passed the group stage if they were in the group A or D ... with 3 spots passing it leaves space for those who aren't advantaged by the group balance (same for rapha)

And, indeed a third placed guy in the groupstage wont finish top3, but it permits him to get a better placement than "9th-18th" - and i dont know about you, but i prefer seeing more q3 action @ gtv

<< Comment #44 @ 07:30 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

request: record demos for every game

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Larvi - Reply to #44

All players are required to record demos, you will find them on the eswc ftp after some time :D

<< Comment #72 @ 10:46 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #50

rejoiced statement: that's awesome!

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #72

don't say hello, I'm home, before crossing the bridge

<< Comment #49 @ 07:51 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler

gl to BYE and his two clones

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<< Comment #54 @ 08:11 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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apoxic - Reply to #49

They used to be a few more.. this tournament is swamped with drop-outs!

<< Comment #82 @ 12:39 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #49

this joke will never get old :)

<< Comment #986 @ 08:46 CDT, 1 September 2008 >>

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supersexyleetmegaruler - Reply to #82

[+] me then

<< Comment #445 @ 10:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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son1dow - Reply to #49

Would like to see demos of BYE playing Ali Nab, should be an intense match!

<< Comment #51 @ 08:07 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ev0c

so tonight it will start?

<< Comment #62 @ 09:48 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #51

huh really? I thought they started on monday? Or is it already monday morning in San José when they start?

Edited by Gladius at 09:49 CDT, 24 August 2008

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ev0c - Reply to #62

they wrote that very bad.

2:00 CEST of mon 25 is tonight...

probably they want to say 2:00 CEST of tus 26.

Edited by ev0c at 09:57 CDT, 24 August 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #64

the matches start tomorrow @ 19cest where did you get 2 from?

<< Comment #56 @ 08:25 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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tst

go pele!

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<< Comment #83 @ 12:40 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #56

WTF!!!?
+ed you anyway

<< Comment #118 @ 19:52 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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skint - Reply to #56

[PK]pele DA BEST!

<< Comment #65 @ 10:38 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Lethe

dont fuck up the gtv again.

please.

<< Comment #73 @ 11:31 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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jadé

yeah want GTV and france to da win...and c'mon...vo0 too =D

<< Comment #75 @ 11:35 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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lighght

R.I.P. vo0 we hardly knew ye

<< Comment #78 @ 11:43 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Lethe

so its drop, drop, play, play, (play)?

<< Comment #440 @ 10:10 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #78

All drop and no play makes Cypher a dull boy.

<< Comment #80 @ 12:10 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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aBx|CRACK

pity that av3k can't come :(

<< Comment #84 @ 12:48 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18209-Coolle...Trio_talks

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<< Comment #91 @ 14:11 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Kaloos - Reply to #84

Was interesting thx.

<< Comment #101 @ 17:04 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #84

"On the ESWC 2008 winner

Cooller: It's going to be jibo.

Cypher: It's going to be Cooller.

jibo: It's going to be Cypher."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

<< Comment #104 @ 17:26 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #84

Cooller is fucking hilarious

<< Comment #85 @ 12:48 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Six16

gl voo, uve got my support! (and jibo too)

<< Comment #89 @ 13:09 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky

schedule was changed so ive updated and changed fixture end times

<< Comment #90 @ 13:58 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cc965012-a.harli1.fr.home.nl)

keep on changing Nicky becoz i heard if22 is gonna be there and plays, so the shedule is a mess :p

<< Comment #93 @ 14:28 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #90

oh shit lol i best go afk then ;)

<< Comment #92 @ 14:11 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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pontape

3 players should advance from each group, form 2 groups of 6 where 4 of each advance and then quarter-finals with loser's brackets!

lot's of games and matchups hehe

<< Comment #94 @ 15:30 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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[mash]

\o/ Vo0/Jibo/killsen/toxter \o/

hope cooller will win tho.

<< Comment #98 @ 16:16 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #94

yournick name is too scandinavian :(

<< Comment #99 @ 16:30 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #98

afaik there are quite a few icelandics named like that. you ever watched "Strongman" competitions?

<< Comment #111 @ 17:59 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #99

no, what is that? a movie?

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Gladius - Reply to #111

a thing they used to give on Eurosport, and where the candidates had to do stuff like pulling a truck, lifting canon balls, etc. quite amusing =)
And yes, I remember some people having the same name in that event.

Edited by Gladius at 03:02 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #136 @ 03:20 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #131

that was a sewede Magnus Samuelsson - The world´s strongest man!

<< Comment #171 @ 10:24 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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ReY - Reply to #136

Neigh, Magnus Magnusson is perhaps the most decorated Strongman of all time. He doesn't compete anymore though afaik.

<< Comment #270 @ 20:25 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (w3cache.tsi.tychy.pl) - Reply to #136

U meant Mariusz Pudzianowski. ;d

<< Comment #278 @ 20:57 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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adamllis - Reply to #136

Magnus Samuelsson - World's Strongest Name tbh

<< Comment #144 @ 05:28 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #131

:0

<< Comment #277 @ 20:48 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (ip-83.net-81-220-102.nantes.rev.numericable.fr) - Reply to #99

Magnus Carlsen > *

<< Comment #96 @ 16:12 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Dird

Jibo to win!

<< Comment #100 @ 16:49 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

huge prize money, havent seen that much prize money in a while.

<< Comment #102 @ 17:06 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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CAREEM

Yeah, Jibo the best!
Hopefully the map poll will be changed for the next tournament's.

<< Comment #103 @ 17:07 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Omni

wtf no guitar hero ?

<< Comment #110 @ 17:52 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Mav_ - Reply to #103

no, fortunately this time they are going to play the q3 final on time

<< Comment #105 @ 17:27 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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duumed

go Vo0!

<< Comment #107 @ 17:37 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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bsk

"Cooller: It will be the most difficult to beat av3k because he will not be there."

Cooller is god.

<< Comment #109 @ 17:51 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Mav_

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Edited by Mav_ at 17:51 CDT, 24 August 2008

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<< Comment #124 @ 23:42 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #109

ahhahaha

<< Comment #138 @ 03:42 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #109

hehe, that smile is so naughty

<< Comment #119 @ 20:21 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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ScanX

* Final Standing:
1: cup_gold qlr - $12 000

?

<< Comment #120 @ 20:33 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #119

beat me to it ;p. qlr will win obviously

<< Comment #121 @ 21:16 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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Vo0

awesome group i have again =)

if-22 is here at the event btw, we share a room, i don't know why his name is crossed but he's playing.

7%

<< Comment #126 @ 00:01 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #121

he has no matches scheduled... well he didnt up till last night when i went to bed. will chk again

*edit* just checked and he still doesnt have anything listed. he best ask about that :P

Edited by Nicky at 00:04 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #129 @ 01:27 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #121

hang in there voo

<< Comment #133 @ 03:05 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #121

always nice of you to post such useful things while being at the event, thanks for that! good luck !

<< Comment #145 @ 05:59 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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BadBoy - Reply to #133

100% Agree!

<< Comment #137 @ 03:39 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #121

man you alwys get the best groups really :/

<< Comment #152 @ 07:05 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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paulrrrr - Reply to #121

Thanks for the update vo0, you rock! Keep us posted and best of luck dood.

<< Comment #149 @ 06:56 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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raithza - Reply to #121

yeah bad luck man, but if you're prepared I'm sure you can do it :)

<< Comment #122 @ 22:17 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead

Wake up euros

<< Comment #123 @ 23:40 CDT, 24 August 2008 >>

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nekon

i seriously hope Ali I N.A.B rapes everyone and he just laughs at them alltimes. that would be so fantastic :D

<< Comment #193 @ 14:24 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #123

Ali I N.A.B [0:2] Strenx
#eswc.q3.score2
pro-q3dm6 - [0:63]
ztn3tourney1 - [5:50]

Cooller [2:0] Ali I N.A.B
#eswc.q3.score11
hub3aeroq3 - [63:4]
pro-q3dm6 - [50:0]

Chance [2:0] Ali I N.A.B
#eswc.q3.score9
pro-q3tourney4 - [73:1]
hub3aeroq3 - [80:0]

ROFL :o)

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 17:06 CDT, 25 August 2008

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nekon - Reply to #193

multiply every frag from ali with 100 and he was pretty good :P

<< Comment #209 @ 15:05 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #193

How does one lose so bad on dm6? He could've walked around that map randomly and done better...

<< Comment #213 @ 15:09 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #209

not so sure... Against a 200/200 full weapon player, the only frag possible is only the 1st one (with a lucky spawn).

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 15:10 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #289 @ 22:19 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #193

shitty monitors

<< Comment #127 @ 01:23 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

7 different GTVs? Fuck this..

<< Comment #130 @ 02:50 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Slajer - Reply to #127

Unless something changed over the night, there are going to be two GTVs required to broadcast all first group stage matches.

<< Comment #155 @ 07:49 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #127

can't spray cum in all of them?

Edited by illogic at 07:51 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #132 @ 03:03 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

wow, all group games will be 3 mappers? gonna be exciting =>

<< Comment #134 @ 03:09 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #132

bo3 :)

<< Comment #139 @ 03:58 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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bsk

Oh dear god I can't wait.

<< Comment #140 @ 04:10 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen

Id prefer bo3 in groupplay, and bo5 in brackets.

<< Comment #141 @ 04:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

CPL GOES PORN

<< Comment #142 @ 05:02 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Jubei

What time do the matches start GMT please guys?

<< Comment #143 @ 05:07 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #142

17:00

4%

<< Comment #146 @ 06:07 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Cypher looks very arrogant in that carmac's iview. That's not the right attitude .. he will fall from grace.

ALI N.A.B. to the finals!

<< Comment #147 @ 06:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Meister - Reply to #146

Judging by his recent games I can't see him falling from grace.

I hope cooller can pull out a suprise first place finish, but I highly doubt it.

<< Comment #150 @ 06:58 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #147

Oh ye of little faith.

<< Comment #329 @ 02:45 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #150

:`/

<< Comment #957 @ 05:21 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #146

what interview? where?

<< Comment #148 @ 06:48 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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bsk

Nicky - bump this up to the top of the front page :)

<< Comment #151 @ 07:05 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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paulrrrr

Congratulations Cypher!

<< Comment #679 @ 22:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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paulrrrr - Reply to #151

Tournament rocked. Nice to see some close matches. I'm glad jibo got slapped (his +back was kind of annoying me, well.. because he is so good at it, damn near impossible to kill.) by rapha, who finally showed what he is made of. czm was also looking shit hot earlier on but I guess ran out of steam. unlucky to cooller, wp chance. And wp killsen and wp z4.. and.. FFS most ppl played FUCKING AMAZING.....

considering it was on shitty monitors.

<< Comment #154 @ 07:48 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Not questioning cypher's great momento.
He's a very talented kid who has alot to offer to the game and he's in great shape.

I just dislike his behaviour .. and i think the kid needs a lesson.
Cooller was abit arrogant in the early years but i've never seen him disrespect his opponents.

<< Comment #156 @ 07:57 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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shqdow - Reply to #154

"i write tactics in pc magazines for noobs like you"

<< Comment #170 @ 10:14 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #154

cooller > cypher for disrespecting players, but cooller earned his name, cypher atm still don`t IMHO. still one nice punch to face and he will be super boy!

<< Comment #966 @ 10:20 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #154

what did cypher do?

<< Comment #162 @ 08:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpc4-ando3-0-0-cust948.sotn.cable.ntl.com)

cypher comes across as a bit of a prick - god I wish av3k rapes him hard when he plays again.

<< Comment #157 @ 08:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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cl0ck

any sort of streaming video for thjose of us w/o q3 installed?

<< Comment #161 @ 08:52 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #157

It's in the first post...

<< Comment #226 @ 16:12 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #157

installing the game and setting it up would only take about 15 minutes

Edited by keuf at 16:20 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #158 @ 08:33 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

mmm... ESWC Q3, US Open, my friends birthday and some hot chicks at his party.. don't know what to choose.

<< Comment #159 @ 08:43 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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alien* - Reply to #158

If you have doubts you better stay home.. because your a geek.

<< Comment #160 @ 08:51 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #159

Man you have chicks everywhere all year long, and ESWC Q3 and US Open are only once a year, so it's a hard pick :)

<< Comment #168 @ 09:37 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #160

why the fuck do you watch hours long tennis man
sampras ok federer maybe but all other noobs wathcing hour of ball beating nah ..
of course first the party ..hit some gilrs and than watch the finals at home .. group stage will be demos anyway
your life comes first party>eswc>>>>>> tennis

<< Comment #173 @ 11:13 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Meister - Reply to #160

Go to the party, pick up a chick, take her back to your place, make sure she is really drunk so that after you finish banging her, she passes out, then your free to watch the Q3 games while she sleeps.

<< Comment #180 @ 12:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #160

He who hesitates, masturbates... to GTV.

7%

<< Comment #363 @ 06:05 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #180

haha

<< Comment #163 @ 08:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde '

Of all days to hold ESWC Finals... you pick Monday, the first day of the semester (for me) and on top of that I have to work all day long...

Why, God, why?!?!

At least ESR is fixed and here to keep me warm during the coldness...

<< Comment #164 @ 09:05 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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cl0ck

sorry, i can't read well.

<< Comment #165 @ 09:24 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Meister

Is this site running REALLY slow for anyone else?

<< Comment #167 @ 09:27 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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rupertt - Reply to #165

I hear you!

<< Comment #166 @ 09:25 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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rupertt

will there be any shoutcasting? cba, to look for it myself:(

<< Comment #172 @ 10:56 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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xou

Scorebot channels on Quakenet: #eswc.q3.score1 #eswc.q3.score2 #eswc.q3.score3 #eswc.q3.score4

<< Comment #174 @ 11:25 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

less than 1 hour

let the last Qauek 3 Arena toureny have a honorable end

im spraying...

<< Comment #175 @ 11:35 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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wheat

When is the stream supposed to go live. Will it be featuring ONLY Q3? Fuck I guess I'm gonna have to get my Q3 out for GTV.

EDIT: No Q3 on my work laptop :( - I hope the stream is not teh suck.

Monday:
9:39AM PST - Stream went up. Failed badly in Firefox 3.0. Errored and then crashed. Gonna try IE...
9:44AM PST - IE7.0 worked well. But now the stream is down.
9:49AM PST - Just discovered the ESWC "stage match" schedule. Nicky is right - only stage matches getting streamed. Which means there will only be FIVE opportunities to catch Q3 on the stage. I'm actually getting on STEAM now to download Q3, cause GTV seems to be the only good option.
9:57AM PST - Just bought Quake 3 for probably... the 5th time. Kinda sucks, but I guess I would have paid $20 bucks to watch quality streams anyway - I'll call it even. Now I just hope that GTV isn't Massive Epic Failure.

Edited by wheat at 11:58 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #176 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #175

i might be wrong but i think its only stage matches which are on stream, hope im wrong :)

<< Comment #177 @ 11:56 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #175

http://www.trisoup.com/easyq3.txt

<< Comment #178 @ 12:00 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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wheat - Reply to #177

Thanks for that... but sending another $20 bucks id's way is the least I can do to support a game which gave me so much enjoyment for the past 9 years.

15%

<< Comment #179 @ 12:22 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Carpio

I hope its because the players are not warmed up yet but the lg fights are looking horrible.

DELL > Q3 skills

This is so sad. Its like playing football with a cube. How can ESWC fuck up the whole tournament this way? i just dont get it.

Edited by Carpio at 12:27 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #181 @ 12:27 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #179

That'll give the old-schoolers the advantage! Zero4/Cooller rocking it to grand finals!

<< Comment #182 @ 12:32 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stripy

go chance

<< Comment #321 @ 01:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #182

keep on going :)

<< Comment #183 @ 12:32 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^cooller looks pretty good on 4

i SMELL z4 vs cooller on t4 !!!!

<< Comment #290 @ 22:23 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #183

:(

<< Comment #184 @ 12:32 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde '

Btw, if22's games are up on the ESWC Schedule.

<< Comment #185 @ 12:36 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic

Sudden death overtime?

Also, lol@chance vs vo0

<< Comment #186 @ 12:39 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

hold on is tht ali nab vs strenx game 63:0 in favour of ali nab ?

<< Comment #187 @ 13:51 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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PolishFool

after starting Q3 and connecting to the GTV I get this error message: "invalid game folder" or "couldn´t load maps test_bigbox.psb".

Can somebody help?

<< Comment #190 @ 14:03 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #187

You need to upgrade you IQ - listen to more classical music.

<< Comment #188 @ 13:56 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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^AME-

GTV - D E M O S

ZeRo4 vs Chance 3maps Download

if22 vs CZM 3 maps Download

k1llsen vs dkt 2 maps Download

cypher vs rapha 2 maps Download

jibo vs if22 2 maps Download

Vo0 vs ZeRo4 3 maps Download

CZM vs jibo only the second map Download

Cooller vs strnx 3 maps Download

fox vs xgo 2 maps Download

noctis vs cypher 2 maps Download

cypher vs impulse 2 maps Download

fox vs dkt 3 maps Download

killsen vs griffin 3 maps Download

Edited by ^AME- at 19:50 CDT, 25 August 2008

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<< Comment #967 @ 10:30 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #188

recommendations of what to watch?

<< Comment #189 @ 14:02 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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wheat

GTV is great... hats off to everyone involved in making that happen. I do wish GTV was "smarter". The ability to see which players were playing would be so pimp.

But it's been great games so far.

<< Comment #212 @ 15:08 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #189

you can use this as sort of accurate schedule of what's currently up: http://www.skylla-slo.com/?p=GTV

1%

<< Comment #191 @ 14:04 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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h_n_i_c

Will these games be up in video format so we who doesn't have Q3 installed can watch the games? =)

<< Comment #192 @ 14:08 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Shaddap

Thank you Nicky..

<< Comment #194 @ 14:28 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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ashr

wtf cooller lost to chance and cypher dropped ztn to rapha :<

<< Comment #197 @ 14:35 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #194

guess the practicing payed off.
its still early though, lot more games to be played.

but it seems americans gonna do really good at eswc.

Edited by stripy at 14:52 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #195 @ 14:33 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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gyr0

What could have been the greatest q3 tournament of all times has been ruined by first moving the finals to usa so that players can't get visa and then playing the games on monitors where everyone plays like shit and worse players can beat better players.

F****** good job.

3%

<< Comment #196 @ 14:35 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

Cypher - Rapha
#eswc.q3.score3
ztn3tourney1 - [0:7]

WTF ???

<< Comment #199 @ 14:44 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #196

It was really 7-1, but cypher did a /kill at the last second.

<< Comment #198 @ 14:44 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic

So now that players have adapted to the xerp changes, it's already back to all RL/RG.

<< Comment #200 @ 14:45 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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s.a.y

the stream is dead ?

<< Comment #201 @ 14:52 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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ashr

MAD PROPS TO RAPHA... totally outplayed cypher on both ztn and nodm9!

<< Comment #208 @ 15:03 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #201

I know he's gonna take that confidence builder with him for the rest of the tournie.

<< Comment #211 @ 15:06 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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MUNG>esh - Reply to #208

Was thinking the same thing about 7 mins into map 2.

<< Comment #214 @ 15:09 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #208

yea.. lets just hope the euros pick themselves up or it's gonna be real boring.

<< Comment #216 @ 15:11 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #214

xD

Would love to see Zero4 take the gold, tho!

<< Comment #202 @ 14:52 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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ted

cypher = raged?

<< Comment #203 @ 14:53 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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MUNG>esh

well played rph!

<< Comment #204 @ 14:54 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

AMERICAN ~~EURO~~ DUEL SCENE LOL.

Edited by Aquashark at 16:50 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #273 @ 20:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #204

you mother fucker.

<< Comment #343 @ 04:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #204

fuck you :F

<< Comment #574 @ 16:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Hadeskaya - Reply to #204

US DUEL SCENE, u are lol

<< Comment #205 @ 14:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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alien*

OMG. someone take a picture of cypher crying please.

<< Comment #210 @ 15:06 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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MUNG>esh - Reply to #205

ROFL, such haters here. Grow up, plz!

<< Comment #221 @ 15:43 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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alien* - Reply to #210

I'm no hater.. just find it funny since this morning i saw that iview where cypher says that's at an higher level then the others.

And has i said previously .. cypher would fall from grace and he did.. so far.

<< Comment #379 @ 07:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #221

Even the brightest stars must fall, sooner or later :D

<< Comment #601 @ 17:54 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #379

Well, he isn't that bright yet.

great pun indeed ;>

<< Comment #631 @ 19:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #601

A star is brightest when it goes supernova :D

<< Comment #292 @ 22:28 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #205

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_62/114880154871bpH8.jpg

<< Comment #206 @ 14:57 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stripy

this eu vs usa thing has been boring for over 5 years now, give it a rest already :)

Edited by stripy at 14:57 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #215 @ 15:10 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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s.a.y - Reply to #206

or not :)
go noctis :)

<< Comment #217 @ 15:14 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vuulx

Scores updated every 5 minutes:

http://chaostrophy.org/eswc_scores.txt

<< Comment #218 @ 15:14 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #217

updated as they happen here :P

<< Comment #360 @ 05:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vuulx - Reply to #218

ESR wasn't working very well at the time (5 minutes to load a page), besides the site is blocked at work.

<< Comment #385 @ 07:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #360

ye some others had the same problem, not everyone though

<< Comment #219 @ 15:16 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

rapha is the maaan.

<< Comment #220 @ 15:17 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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lolograde '

DRAMA!

Cypher vs. Noctis -- Cypher gotta win this 2:0 or he might not get out of group.

<< Comment #222 @ 15:44 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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reyu

laughed at the trash talk between Vo0 and ZeRo4 :>

<< Comment #230 @ 17:11 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #222

quote it

<< Comment #231 @ 17:21 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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reyu - Reply to #230

ZeRo4 called Vo0 a rail whore, I think it's enough.

<< Comment #233 @ 17:56 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #231

no it's not, there was much better things then that, one talking to the other. But I don't remember well, need the demo...

<< Comment #238 @ 18:09 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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reyu - Reply to #233

you see, _ZERO4_ calling someone a rail whore is just ridiculous

but there also where some cool shit talk about czm raping Vo0 and how Vo0 doesn't care :>>

<< Comment #245 @ 18:44 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #238

and on this, Zero4 tells Vo0 he should always drop ZTN and play T4.

Vo0 says he doesn't like T4 and (just after losing a rail battle to Z4), says "that is why, I'm bad at 1vs1 rail battles". Z4 says no wonder why you were raped by CZM on hub. Then Vo0 says he raped Z4 on hub...

ohhh it was niiiiiice

<< Comment #446 @ 10:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #238

why ridiculous? zero4 was never even close to being a rail whore.

rocket whore maybe?

<< Comment #738 @ 05:03 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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zealot - Reply to #446

you don't know anything about quake... :)

<< Comment #223 @ 16:00 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Burpy

Carmac & Rapha made CZM cry. =)

I was surprised how well rapha played against cypher.

<< Comment #225 @ 16:09 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #223

well if you have followed the north american duel scene for an year or longer you should be able to see how much rapha has improved over the year. He can lock down any opponent if he is on his game, but the thing is he chokes every so often. I recall him choking against griffin at a late night final in pro-duels tourney, I recall him choking against dkt in usa qualifiers wb final, if that guy doesnot do silly stuff he is top 3 material.

<< Comment #224 @ 16:04 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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koji

that's why chance was invited.

<< Comment #447 @ 10:30 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #224

so that he could drop cooller out?

fuck eswc then:)

<< Comment #228 @ 16:58 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Jubei

With cypher cooller and jibo all playing like ass i guess this tourney belongs to fox.

<< Comment #293 @ 22:31 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #228

cypher looked pretty solid, rapha was just playing awesome, i mean it didn;t matter what cypher did rapha was on top of him

didn't see Jibo, cooller looked cool (face it other people are better now).

<< Comment #229 @ 16:58 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Lethe

cypher vs noctis, what i said.

<< Comment #232 @ 17:27 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

RAGE !!

Cypher [2:0] Noctis
ztn3tourney - [17:5]
pro-q3dm6 - [15:-1]

Cypher please keep cool with link1n, we want him to return back alive and safe to france.

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 18:07 CDT, 25 August 2008

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<< Comment #234 @ 18:02 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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koji

MICHAEL PHELPS TRIFECTA !!!!

<< Comment #235 @ 18:07 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mammon

omgomg Cooler vs Zero4 on stream!!!1

<< Comment #239 @ 18:12 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #235

what? where?

<< Comment #241 @ 18:14 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mammon - Reply to #239

http://www.eswc.com/livestream soon

<< Comment #243 @ 18:37 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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mammon - Reply to #239

NOW

<< Comment #244 @ 18:40 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #243

gtv? =(

<< Comment #236 @ 18:08 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Raist

toxter [2:1] Noctis (Fixture)
#eswc.q3.score11
hub3aeroq3 - [17:50]
pro-q3tourney4 - [10:4]
ztn3tourney1 - [10:7]

Are you serious?

<< Comment #240 @ 18:13 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #236

rofl... so ~~toaster~~ toxter is not so bad

<< Comment #242 @ 18:31 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #236

wtf.. did they play promode?

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<< Comment #287 @ 22:15 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #242

Tactical /cv gameplay cpm and noctis didn't ntoice.

<< Comment #312 @ 23:49 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (216-75-234-141.static.wiline.com) - Reply to #236

it was a default win basicly

<< Comment #237 @ 18:08 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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D.Devil

What the ...
Hunter :---(

<< Comment #246 @ 18:46 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic

Wow, no GTV for cooller/zero4? That live stream is HORRIBLE.

<< Comment #247 @ 18:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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funkeh

that first map was pure pleasure! Cooller really is amazing

<< Comment #251 @ 19:33 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #247

the last one was MUCH better

ztn with sudden death OT

<< Comment #255 @ 19:34 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #251

yeah but the last frag was pure lottery ^^

<< Comment #256 @ 19:35 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #255

shouldn't be sudden death to begin with.

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<< Comment #262 @ 19:47 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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aBx|CRACK - Reply to #256

why there was no overtime : (

<< Comment #257 @ 19:36 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #255

no it wasn't. It was plasma OWNAGE

<< Comment #296 @ 22:36 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #255

it was pure plasma

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<< Comment #249 @ 19:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p5DC17C70.dip.t-dialin.net)

anyone got a directlink for the stream...

im getting really pissed... i click on the yellow box to install the plugin, because it says i have to click on it to install the active x control, when its finished the same box opens again...

<< Comment #266 @ 19:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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veal - Reply to #249

use firefox

<< Comment #248 @ 19:15 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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anyk3y

stream on the eswc site works well (in IE, couldnt install the plugin in FF)

<< Comment #254 @ 19:34 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #248

works fine in ff

<< Comment #250 @ 19:31 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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[mash]

LOL omg

<< Comment #253 @ 19:34 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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s.a.y

that russian guy.

spraying cum everywhere !!!!

<< Comment #252 @ 19:34 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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^AME-

great game!

<< Comment #258 @ 19:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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garz

cooller out :( how did he react? couldnt see the stream because of win2000 :/

<< Comment #259 @ 19:41 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #258

What? Cooller > Zero4

<< Comment #264 @ 19:49 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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smari - Reply to #258

Well he still has a small chance to advance if strenx beats z4.

<< Comment #260 @ 19:41 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy

FUCK ME. That ztn match was pure ecstasy. When zero4 tied it with 6 seconds left and then got mega i was sure he was going to win, that plasma was just fucking amazing though

<< Comment #350 @ 05:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #260

Must be hard hitting plasma in that passage

Edited by timmah at 05:08 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #261 @ 19:44 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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DizzyMage

Glad Cooller won!

Hill still can't beat Anton. Awesome.

<< Comment #263 @ 19:49 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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fett

what a game.....

wow.....

just wow....

<< Comment #268 @ 20:07 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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daka '

Amazing match, that plazma was awesome from cooller !! glad cooller won, but grats and gl to Z4 in the next matches.

are there gonna be VOD's of the matches for download?

<< Comment #265 @ 19:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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kOUBy

best match from a long time, oldschools rules !!!

<< Comment #267 @ 20:02 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

I will be sad panda if only zero4 and chance gets to go out of the group and cooller cannot.

all 3 will be tied with 3 win and 1 loss each and chance will have better record but come on.........

let zero4 and cooller qualify for quake's sake.

<< Comment #269 @ 20:20 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_

considering it's on shitty monitors

<< Comment #271 @ 20:36 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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rep

pretty impressive aims being displayed

considering its on shitty monitors

<< Comment #308 @ 23:30 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #271

i'm sorry but lcd monitors really aren't that bad. of course it really sucks when you just try it just like that, but once you get used to it, it's all the same.

i've had to play on a lcd for a year now, and the first few days i was pissed and it was a bit strange but after a couple of days i can't say my aim was any worse than before.

i've played on a crt since then and my aim is just the same. yeah, it's smoother to the eye but i really don't think it affects aim that much, if at all. anyways, i think people are too picky about stuff when it comes to aiming... just point and click and forget about the little details. i've seen some people having *amazing* aim playing on the shittiest setups you can imagine. it's all in the head...

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<< Comment #330 @ 02:50 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Zerg-Spirit - Reply to #308

Well, as you said, it's less smooth to the eyes with a lcd, and I think you'll agree that the eyes are greatly involved into the aiming process, hence, lcd are crap to aim with compared to crt.
Not that hard to understand and to admin.
LCD = crap.

<< Comment #368 @ 06:31 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amt - Reply to #330

hehe no latency at all. Smooth as hell.

<< Comment #374 @ 07:04 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #368

well, the iiyama is one of the best lcds ever, when the dell lcds are one the worst ever (for gaming): http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=6&a...&ph=12

<< Comment #405 @ 08:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Zerg-Spirit - Reply to #368

I personnaly have a Samsung 2ms 22' and a crt, and I play on the crt since it's just horrible play on my lcd, which is known as, I'm pretty sure of that, 'a very good lcd'.

<< Comment #749 @ 06:14 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amt - Reply to #405

zerg, it's your feeling about it. But the numbers have no such feeling and can't lie. No delay / latency at all. Switch to Iiyama :)

<< Comment #954 @ 04:41 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (217.217.86.187.dyn.user.ono.com) - Reply to #749

Even the best LCD in the world has a SHIT of display refresh rate, 65Hz? c'mon don't make me laugh!... I have a CRT that runs at 200Hz (iiyama Vision Master Pro 514), and don't say that "No delay / latency at all" bullshit, even the best CRT has delay/latency/ghosting.

CRT's are CLEARLY superior for gaming than any LCD in the market. Only the new SED technology can be better than a CRT dude.

<< Comment #960 @ 07:04 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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amt - Reply to #954

You can't compare refresh rate of crt and lcd, Mr Expert...

Edited by amt at 16:01 CDT, 29 August 2008

<< Comment #983 @ 04:17 CDT, 31 August 2008 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #960

why not?

<< Comment #342 @ 04:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #308

I'm playing on a lcd too, but apparently the lcds they got are much worse than normal ones.

<< Comment #353 @ 05:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #308

The LCDs they've got there have tons of input delay. There are LCDs that are good enough and LCDs that aren't.

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<< Comment #477 @ 11:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #308

it's not about visual smoothness. some LCDs have a lot of input lag. i own one of them.

<< Comment #984 @ 04:21 CDT, 31 August 2008 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #308

dsp processing done in the monitor's circuitry, each proccess requiring a buffer, 1 frame of delay-15ms. And then you have LCD's with things like adaptive contrast and overdrive which can also use up 2-3 more frames in the frame buffer. 2-4 frames * (1000 ms/60 Hz) = 33 ms - 67 ms. of input lag at a 60 Hz refresh rate Yea, no lag at all on LCD's. >_>

Edited by flowrush at 04:30 CDT, 31 August 2008

<< Comment #272 @ 20:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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funnyb

yeh im sort of enjoying this event

considering its on shitty monitors

<< Comment #276 @ 20:47 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ ormey

pretty sure the monitors are poopy, can be wrong tho.

<< Comment #274 @ 20:39 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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f0cus

FIVE STEPS AHEAD MOTHERFUCKERS !!!!!

<< Comment #275 @ 20:40 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks

$$ plays by coolls and fox

considering its on shitty monitors

<< Comment #279 @ 21:01 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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CAREEM

xgo and ali nab are joke in this tournament xD

Go go Jibo!

<< Comment #281 @ 21:17 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (Dynamic-IP-cr200118182199.cable.net.co)

ALI NAB WOULD HAVE RAPED ESWC ON GOOD MONITORS

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<< Comment #280 @ 21:17 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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teejay

Could someone explain to me why is it final that cooller is not going to pass to group stage 2? At the time I'm writing Z4 has finished his group matches and is 10-4. Cooller gotta play Voo and if he wins 2-0 gets the same 10-4. Besides the criteria should be like soccer: direct match. Cooller won vs z4.

Great matches all the way.

<< Comment #283 @ 21:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #280

If cooller wins 2-0 he has a mapscore of 8-4. zero4 has a mapscore of 9-4 and chance has a mapscore of 9-3.

also they can't be decided by direct match, because chance beat cooller, cooller beat zero4 and zero4 beat chance so they all have 1 loss and have to be decided by maps

means that cooller is out, sucks though because the groups were really imbalanced

Edited by gyr0 at 21:28 CDT, 25 August 2008

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Aaron - Reply to #283

groups were balanced just about right

it didn't matter how they were done, you were going to get a tight group somewhere, even more so if avek was present that would have really fucked things up

you can't watch the groups and say oh wait these groups were unfair. you have to look back to the previous tournaments (gamegune and masters and some online events perhaps) and base it from that

<< Comment #357 @ 05:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ReY - Reply to #283

Neigh

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/regulations/2008/grand_fin..._%20Q3.pdf

2.02a) chance, cooller, z4 are tied
2.02b) chance, cooller, z4 are tied
2.02c) chance (3-2), z4 (3-3), cooller (2-3)

thus cooller is out

<< Comment #282 @ 21:18 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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donka '

ONE LOSS IN WARMUP AND OUT?? WAY TO RESHUFFLE GROUPS LAST MINUTE

<< Comment #284 @ 22:07 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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donka '

That page is just pure ownage

http://www.eswc.com/grandfinal/sanjose2008/?c...petition=2

<< Comment #285 @ 22:10 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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cdogg

2nd group stage seeds->

1) czm
2) rapha
3) fox
4) chance
5) cypher
6) jibo
7) killsen
8) z4

Group a
czm
fox
cypher
killsen

Group b
rapha
chance
jibo
z4

Playoffs predictions
seeds
1) cypher
2) rapha
3) czm
4) jibo
cypher>jibo
czm>rapha

czm>cypher

gg czm

<< Comment #291 @ 22:25 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #285

That's the idiot's way of doing group, anyone can see they aren't balanced.

Seeds 1+3+5+7 = 16
Seeds 2+4+6+8 = 20

What's usually done in cases like this:

Seeds 1+4+5+8 = 18
Seeds 2+3+6+7 = 18
= balanced

Now they got a lot stronger group A.
This tournament seems more and more like a joke.

<< Comment #298 @ 22:41 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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xiko - Reply to #291

You guys just can´t stop the whining, jesus christ.

<< Comment #294 @ 22:31 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #285

hell no cypher will walk all over the place

<< Comment #299 @ 22:51 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #285

seems like you were wrong, eswc page says that the groups are

A
rapha
fox
jibo
z4

B
chance
czm
cypher
killsen

those seem better

<< Comment #391 @ 07:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #299

Yup. Mine was just a guess. I'm glad I was wrong though, these groups are better. czm/cypher rapha/fox ...hopefully it's those 4 that advance...well see. Jibo just beat fox though, cypher beat czm.

<< Comment #288 @ 22:18 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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shlaeNg

$$

<< Comment #306 @ 23:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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teejay

Any chance of non gtv demos?

<< Comment #310 @ 23:39 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #306

look demo esr

<< Comment #305 @ 23:26 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (216-75-234-141.static.wiline.com)

group 1: zero4 jibo fox rapha
group 2: czm k1llsen chance cypher

// Vo0

<< Comment #309 @ 23:38 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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crv - Reply to #305

go back trashtalk with john !

<< Comment #297 @ 22:40 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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bonBon

wowo czm beat jibo. did not expect that

<< Comment #300 @ 22:51 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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nekon

not bad so far
considering its on shitty monitors

<< Comment #301 @ 22:55 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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Anima

the match between zero4 and cooller on ztn was awesome!

considering it's on shitty monitors

<< Comment #302 @ 23:11 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

the history repeats, now cooller suffers, in eswc 2005 in similar situation cooller was chosen above toxic, now chance above cooller.

This is the end of vanilla quake 3 as we know it, quakelive has fairly different gameplay.

wp cooller, you played in a manner that made me watch quake 3 and play quake 3, no matter the result of this tourney, your influence, in the way quake is played, will live on till the end of quake.

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<< Comment #304 @ 23:19 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #302

considering its on shitty monitors*

<< Comment #311 @ 23:40 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp ' - Reply to #304

this shitty monitor spam ..who invented it : reptile ?

<< Comment #320 @ 01:06 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #311

what spam?

<< Comment #388 @ 07:37 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #311

yes :D

<< Comment #378 @ 07:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #302

indeed

<< Comment #303 @ 23:19 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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cumrag

damnit cooller :(

shitty monitors

<< Comment #315 @ 00:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #303

old school players are used to playing on bad lcds

and they're all using them :D

<< Comment #307 @ 23:28 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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tst

ali nab been the best player the eswc :)

<< Comment #325 @ 02:06 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #307

Perhaps the greatest debut since TPboy...

:)

<< Comment #332 @ 03:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #307

At least he's still all sports, unlike some as we unfortunately witnessed last night...

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<< Comment #346 @ 04:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #332

Fill me in

<< Comment #362 @ 06:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #346

Hmm, IMO some amount of smack-talking is part of the game and it's fine and all. But rage-quits in tournament-game -nevermind how hilarious for the fanboys or haters they are- are just silly, and in tournament context it's the ultimate way of making a complete ass out of oneself.

<< Comment #370 @ 06:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #362

Who rage quit? ;D

<< Comment #413 @ 08:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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graumull - Reply to #370

almost erveryone who got a little beating :p

<< Comment #380 @ 07:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #362

Yes quitting before time is up, is always the worst of the worst attitude to show.

<< Comment #313 @ 23:53 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

nice cheats or whatever by the americans .hahah

chance beating cooller on ztn
czm beating jibo on ztn
rapha beating cypher on ztn ..yeah right
gimme normal monitors!!

Edited by stelamfanboy at 23:57 CDT, 25 August 2008

<< Comment #314 @ 23:54 CDT, 25 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

o would so like to see czm vs cooller again!! :((

<< Comment #316 @ 00:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ryan85

Anyone know what model of LCD they're using?

<< Comment #351 @ 05:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #316

In the ESWC page it says 24" Dells and 22" Samsungs on the stage, but it doesn't mention the models.

<< Comment #407 @ 08:09 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #351

odds are good that the 22" samsungs are decent.

<< Comment #317 @ 00:36 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xiko

jesus cypher moves way to fast for the streaming, lol.

<< Comment #318 @ 00:49 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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hi wotsup lol

1 CHANCE 12
2 SK.ZERO4 12
3 COOLLER 12

lol unlucky cooller

<< Comment #319 @ 01:02 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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riiCo

who's the guy shoutcasting with carmac?

<< Comment #326 @ 02:14 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #319

monsieurlam, he's been the eswc host since the start iirc. His accent makes my ears bleed tho

<< Comment #322 @ 01:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Arcita

america, FUCK YEAH!

actually, i figured just zero4 and maybe czm would get to group stage 2

<< Comment #323 @ 01:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tom

that cooller interview is great

<< Comment #324 @ 01:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carpio

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/27742-Cooller_...air_system

Very nice interview!

Cooller was really really unlucky this time. :(( Dont bash his skills he is still up there with the very best! We will miss a lot of epic matches with Cooller involved. No offence to Chance but Cooller and Z4 should be better to advance.

Edited by Carpio at 02:10 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #328 @ 02:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #324

Cooller is gonna have babies!!!!

<< Comment #327 @ 02:19 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy

nice inviews. like when u get there comments during the event.

<< Comment #331 @ 03:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead

Americans are coming!

Rapha the new wonder kid from USA is gonna win this tourney you read it here first.

Cooller who? Cypher who?

LOLOLOLOL

<< Comment #340 @ 04:18 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #331

I thought Cypher qualified and actually raped czm already, or am I missing something here?

<< Comment #347 @ 05:00 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #340

Well Rapha beat him and czm is nothink

rapha is the new czm

Edited by terrorhead at 05:03 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #430 @ 09:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #347

I am happily impressed by Rapha and honestly wish him good luck. When Cypher gets to play him again (in the finals?) he's gonna need it, Cypher's inability to adjust to conditions showed too much, if total of 3 frags in 2x15 minutes on Rapha isn't enough proof, then I don't know what is. Just that... hopefully he'll get back to his own level before elimination starts.

<< Comment #375 @ 07:14 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #331

your rapha wont make it even top 3

<< Comment #381 @ 07:27 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #375

time will show

<< Comment #641 @ 20:17 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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pl4gue - Reply to #375

stupid euro look who's in top 3

<< Comment #658 @ 21:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #641

you mean in 3rd place

<< Comment #686 @ 23:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #641

with cooller and avek no amercian would even make it top4
jibo was unmotivated i guess cause he beated him in the grupstage ...

Edited by stelamfanboy at 23:43 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #478 @ 11:52 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #331

Cooller, the 2 time ESWC Quake 3 champion. Cypher, the guy who tore up ESWC Masters without dropping a map and Quakecon right after.

<< Comment #583 @ 16:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #331

Rapha who? ^^

<< Comment #333 @ 03:18 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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anal justice

bah, eswc at it's worst :(

<< Comment #334 @ 03:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tNaCarN

Well well, Chance being American who didnt qualify still got into the tournament to upset cooller and fuck over the dream of 3 ESWC quake 3 titles well done Chance you Horse faced wanker.

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<< Comment #335 @ 03:31 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Slasher - Reply to #334

yeah chance what's wrong with you. you should have made sure cooller was practicing beforehand and then take a dive for q3 nostalgia's sake. stupid yank.

Edited by Slasher at 03:32 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #337 @ 03:36 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #335

ye, how dare he

<< Comment #338 @ 03:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #335

btw get some more short inviews during the event.
maybe bug the players while they are specing the games or smth:)

<< Comment #448 @ 10:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #335

too fucking right

<< Comment #395 @ 07:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #334

Chance really seems to be bearing the brunt of everyone's frustration. It's unfortunate his success had to come at the expense of Cooller's, I agree, but that shouldn't overshadow the fact that he's playing the tournament of his life. I'll be supporting him the rest of the way.

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<< Comment #339 @ 04:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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duumed

chance pulling out a surprise here.

too bad for Vo0 :<

<< Comment #344 @ 04:45 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl

go k1llsen xD

<< Comment #345 @ 04:55 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Deimos

Just watched rapha vs cypher game on ztn. Didn't find anything special in Rapha's play. He played as if he was Jibo or Death. The style was absolutely the same. I forced myself to follow rapha's POV just of extreme curiosity, otherwise it's completely unwatchable. Though I must admit that, as a rule, the style is rather efficient.

<< Comment #394 @ 07:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #345

Rapha's style surely isn't as "spectacular" as Cypher's style, but you have to admit he was 6... maybe 7... steps ahead of Cypher all match.

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<< Comment #398 @ 07:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #394

i hope your joking. :D
i recall 3 situations where cypher caught him from behind without rapha noticing. he couldn't kill him tho, which is kinda sad.

<< Comment #400 @ 07:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #394

Instead of "reply" gave you a plus:) I wouldn't admit that he was even 1 or 2 steps ahead. He was just a bit more lucky then cypher several times - he managed to kill cypher with very low hp as well as to ran away with the same hp. The game was very tight and imo the score doesn't reflect that correctly. Anyway rapha was better that very time, I am convienced the only time against cypher, now and in future.

<< Comment #403 @ 08:04 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #400

Ahaha, yeah. He got down to 1 hp a couple times. There was a moment where he was at MH and managed to grab it with 60hp just before Cypher railed him. Would've been a big kill for Cypher.

<< Comment #402 @ 08:02 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #394

He was - everybody in Europe should just be a man about it and admit the Americans have worked hard, have taken their games up a notch, and are justifiably reaping the rewards. At least in the first group stage. Rapha and Chance deserve a standing ovation if they can keep this up.

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<< Comment #424 @ 08:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #402

agreed

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<< Comment #456 @ 10:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #402

I agree that they have improved a lot. I instantly noticed that from the first game I watched, chance vs voo, and I knew they would do well. On the other hand, I also knew that their game was far inferior to europeans in the previous tournaments, just from a few before tournament demos that I watched, and I couldn't understand why the americans had hyped them so much.

<< Comment #348 @ 05:00 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

Watched the Cooller Interview, I didnt know Nodm9 is his best map (for him) :O

<< Comment #376 @ 07:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #348

now you know

<< Comment #382 @ 07:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #348

He might think that, but id say he is most solid on dm6 :p

<< Comment #383 @ 07:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #382

what? dm6? where he looses hald of the games
his best is nodm9 and than ztn ...and than maybe dm6 somewhere
i think ist the first time ever loosing him on dm9 so..

<< Comment #390 @ 07:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #383

Jibo has made himself a habit of beating cooller on nodm9... aside from that, he's comfortable with the map and it shows indeed. Dunno if it's the fat-food or the excessive sun in california, but yesterday's games produced some odd results in larger scale too, as several "homemaps" got robbed...

<< Comment #393 @ 07:44 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #390

cooller destroyed jibo on nodm9 on gamegune iirc

<< Comment #416 @ 08:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #393

But in the previous "last q3 tournament ever" he lost. Don't ask which one it was, I can't remember but his excuse was "Jibo will have better chance of winning this tournament, so I threw the map".

Edited by Carillo at 09:27 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #493 @ 12:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz - Reply to #416

cpl 2006

<< Comment #392 @ 07:44 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #383

He loses it now. In times when he was active it was his best map and the most preferable one. It was pure control. Others were (as follows): tourney2, ztn, dm13.

<< Comment #435 @ 09:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #383

Well few years ago I can quote him saying that, noone would ever be able to ride over him on dm6. Im pretty sure that still counts.
Must have been at eswc 2004 in an interview.

edit: im also pretty sure that was egged on by his rivalry with toxic.

Edited by amokchen at 09:26 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #349 @ 05:05 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl

need those demos

all matches group stage 2 so far, noctis - cypher

<< Comment #352 @ 05:14 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash]

/o\ cooller
- that match vs. z4 was legendary tho.
"OMG .. did he really miss that jump? FUCK YOU"
sudden death
"z4 is gonna get him within seconds, i guess"

" ...... ... ....... .............. ............."

\o/ k1llsen/Jibo \o/

Edited by Magnus Magnusson at 05:15 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #354 @ 05:37 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Cooller will be missed in the finals.

<< Comment #355 @ 05:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #354

Why? He is not that good anymore.

<< Comment #377 @ 07:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #355

terrorhead really you have a clue man

<< Comment #401 @ 07:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #355

so much fucking STYLE in that game vs z4, one of the best games I've seen in a while. I love cooller.

<< Comment #406 @ 08:09 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #401

Yeah that game was nice. I love cooller too but he is just not that good any more thats all I'm saying.

<< Comment #427 @ 09:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #406

Cooller on Z4 last night was almost the same Cooller I saw handing czm's butt back to him on hub 3 years ago in ESWC finals

<< Comment #510 @ 13:50 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #406

nutless monkey could right your comments, seriously

<< Comment #512 @ 14:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #510

You misspelled write.

Aaaaand

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=3231

Nothing to be proud of.

Cuntface.

<< Comment #533 @ 14:30 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #512

my rong doesn't make your write

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terrorhead - Reply to #533

lol

<< Comment #356 @ 05:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Not that good anymore? Aren't you in the wrong place? go play some tetris.

<< Comment #359 @ 05:56 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #356

Results don't lie.

Edited by terrorhead at 05:58 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #358 @ 05:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy

btw, whats lostcause doing there?

<< Comment #361 @ 06:00 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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dansen

/russian accent
'i don't really know about the reason...
but i think its because i controll him like a little girl'

<< Comment #364 @ 06:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Terifire

great performance by if-22!

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<< Comment #365 @ 06:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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exxxie

srsly, format of tourny blows. What the hell is wrong with double elim?

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<< Comment #367 @ 06:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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senzor - Reply to #365

ESWC is 'special' =D

<< Comment #449 @ 10:37 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #365

give it two seconds thought and you might figure it out

DE fucking sucks from a competition view and for good reason

<< Comment #366 @ 06:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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senzor

nice to see old faces doing good. If22 turned from +back to +forward at least in that matrox game =D he played well though. Just one question - What's with the malfunctioning ESReality web? Bad servers, Internet attacks or what? It's just so slooooooow =(

<< Comment #369 @ 06:39 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xoji

Shit, I've missed loads :>

<< Comment #371 @ 06:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #369

YOU'VE MISSED CUM LOADS YES

<< Comment #373 @ 06:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xoji - Reply to #371

Like this :

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rnuhw0&s=4

rofl, nevermind, they removed it as soon as it went up.

Edited by willow at 07:00 CDT, 26 August 2008

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[mash]

are there games going on atm?

<< Comment #384 @ 07:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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BadBoy - Reply to #372

No - they start in 4,5 hours

<< Comment #389 @ 07:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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unee - Reply to #372

No, games will start at 19:00 (4 hours and 20 minutes)

<< Comment #396 @ 07:52 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #372

Nah, they start about in 4 hours, 10 minutes.

<< Comment #397 @ 07:56 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #396

it would be nice if you'd keep me updated every 15-30mins.

kthx

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<< Comment #408 @ 08:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #397

3 hours, 47 minutes.

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madbringer - Reply to #408

3 hours, 13 minutes

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lolograde ' - Reply to #418

More like, 3 hours, 8 minutes.

<< Comment #423 @ 08:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #421

3 hours and 3 minutes, you're a little off

<< Comment #426 @ 09:00 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #423

I must politely disagree, sir.

3 hours on the dot.

<< Comment #428 @ 09:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #426

I could swear my clock shows 2 hours and 57 minutes. :(

<< Comment #429 @ 09:09 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #428

afaik, 2 hours, 51 minutes.

Boring day at work, I'm afraid.

<< Comment #433 @ 09:19 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #429

I need to check the damn thing, now it's 2 hours and 41 minutes.

Indeed, boredom at it's worst. :D

<< Comment #436 @ 09:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #433

Hey, I was just checking the website. I saw your reply. If you are presently looking at the clock, you'll notice that we have exactly:

2 hours, 28 minutes

till Day 2 starts.

<< Comment #441 @ 10:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #436

Where i come from, 2 hours and 28 minutes means 1 hour and 45 minutes.

<< Comment #455 @ 10:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #441

1 hour 12 minutes. finally!

<< Comment #466 @ 11:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #441

it's 45 minutes now
considering its on shitty monitors

<< Comment #472 @ 11:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #466

added 60ms delay?

<< Comment #480 @ 11:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #472

2 minutes

<< Comment #484 @ 12:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #480

worst attempt ever if you look at the esr clock on your post LOL:D

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<< Comment #486 @ 12:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #484

considering the shitty monitors.

<< Comment #387 @ 07:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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daka '

Great interview Carmac, sucks that Cooller is out, he deserved to go to Group Stage 2, Cooller is the man, gl to him in the future.

<< Comment #386 @ 07:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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roychez

Full coverage from fnatic.com - http://www.fnatic.com/articles/434/

<< Comment #437 @ 09:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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dallow - Reply to #386

why would we go to fnatic.com when we can see the coverage here? Stop pimping...

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<< Comment #450 @ 10:37 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #437

except we can't

<< Comment #399 @ 07:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_

i hope this ali nab guy is having a good time! i haven't seen him whine or ragequit or anything which takes quite some courage imo when you're being raped 50:0 on every map.

good to see our game has not only players from us/eur/rus!

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<< Comment #404 @ 08:05 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #399

Actually Russia belongs to Europe too. It is not in the Middle East;)

<< Comment #420 @ 08:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #404

yeah i know, just wanted to list a few countries ;>

<< Comment #410 @ 08:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #399

agreed!

<< Comment #411 @ 08:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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smari - Reply to #399

I wouldnt call him a Q3 player.
He probably played the game for the first time at the qualifier.
He can't even strafejump, he presses w + jump to move forward...

<< Comment #412 @ 08:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #411

so you're only a q3 player when you can do b2r on dm6?

yes he probably hasn't played the game for a long time, that's why it takes even more courage to play in a tournament like this! kudos to him!

maybe the other guys showed him how to strafejump etc, would be nice! if you wanna make the game popular you have to help the "noobs". i doubt poker would be where it is right now without all those tutorial websites etc.

<< Comment #479 @ 11:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #412

That is true.

The Quake3 community does come across like a bunch of complete cunts. However, if some noob were to ask, I think most wouldn't mind helping.

They just gotta ask though :O

P.s. Yes, I am trying to believe the world is a good place!! \o

<< Comment #409 @ 08:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz

some new videos on sk:
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/27690-SKrapha_on_beating_Cypher
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/27752-chance_t...ng_Cooller
http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/27755-griffin_...erformance

<< Comment #514 @ 14:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #409

thanks

<< Comment #414 @ 08:39 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Lethe

awwwwwwwwwww. poor cooller. the damn system. he deserved to go through. i feel so bad for him. damn it. *cries*

FUCK YOU. he prolly forgot his anal penetration received by toxic in eswc 2005, and look what coincidence - the situation was the same. tied, and toxic didnt leave the group stage due to a map loss to keeper.

cry me a russian river, i'm so happy right now...

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<< Comment #415 @ 08:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #414

Bwahahaha

<< Comment #417 @ 08:45 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #414

you're gonna get nuked by Aaron.

<< Comment #419 @ 08:47 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #414

Oh you!

<< Comment #422 @ 08:54 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #414

In his defense, he didn't really look upset or made a big deal of it...

<< Comment #425 @ 08:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #414

very "smart" observation. was "fuck u" that nessesary? stupid kids...

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<< Comment #452 @ 10:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #414

er if you had half a brain you wouldn't mention the toxic thing at all

this goes all the way back to wcg02 you moron

<< Comment #490 @ 12:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #452

whine about tournament system has nothing to do with 2002, 2002 was just typical fair play by cooller. toxic situation is the SAME.

i guess that makes you the moron, and ends this.

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Aaron - Reply to #490

you're stupid

2002 was the exact same siutation yet is far better linked to this because it was the (more or less) birth of cooller and the rivialry between he and zero4.

cooller got through on wins and created mass controversy because many thought he threw the game on purpose so zero4 couldn't get past the groups (zero4 actually tried to get him booted from the tournament or something).

this ends how it all began, except cooller is now in zero4's shoes even though he won

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Lethe - Reply to #494

because many thought he threw the game on purpose

this was so obvious i stopped reading afterwards. youre not SO retarded to doubt that match, i hope.

and still i dont see why this isnt THE same as toxic eswc 2005, in terms of system whine, and IT IS related to cooller.

Edited by Lethe at 13:11 CDT, 26 August 2008

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Aaron - Reply to #499

what? it's retarded? that's why the American team (as far as I remember) tried to get cooller booted from the tournament?

<< Comment #579 @ 16:39 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #577

wow, u guys really know your q3 history... wtf??!

<< Comment #642 @ 20:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #414

That's not what cooller called unfair, he said it was unfair that he had to play a tough opponent first.

Unfair was probably the wrong word for him to use but he's Russian and English isn't his natural language.

<< Comment #431 @ 09:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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krabban

"Carmac interviews Cooller on ZeRo 4 and an unfair system"

Is it just me or does the song "Kaneda" from the AKIRA soundtrack start playing in the middle of the vid? :)

<< Comment #432 @ 09:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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krabban - Reply to #431

Oh and "Vagrancy" from Samurai Champloo OST :D

<< Comment #434 @ 09:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #432

Anything else? :O

<< Comment #438 @ 09:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #434

Penises... lots and lots of penises.

<< Comment #461 @ 10:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #438

sssst! Nicky's listening...

<< Comment #481 @ 12:00 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #461

What? She likes this kinda talk.

<< Comment #538 @ 14:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #481

No way! :o

<< Comment #701 @ 02:20 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #461

omg did i miss something?!

<< Comment #710 @ 03:19 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #701

no way! go to bed!
(nasty girl...)

<< Comment #841 @ 13:04 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #710

bed sounds good !

<< Comment #844 @ 13:38 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #841

not in David Lynch's vision: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9TES7OHNlA

<< Comment #492 @ 12:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #432

kill bill song at the beginning too

<< Comment #443 @ 10:18 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #431

Yes, I think it was that song.

<< Comment #468 @ 11:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (212-166-130-158.red-acceso.airtel.net) - Reply to #431

Yeah! its the song during the battle against clowns at the beginning of the movie. Love it :)

<< Comment #439 @ 09:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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daka '

http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/27773-czm_on_Cypher_Quake_3#0

<< Comment #442 @ 10:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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hoax. - Reply to #439

I wish he would stop lifting his right hand every 2 seconds

<< Comment #467 @ 11:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #442

he was considering the case of the the shitty monitors... with his hand

Edited by lolograde at 12:00 CDT, 26 August 2008

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #467

of course! he says it too: http://www.massmailsoftware.com/blog/wp-conte...e-new2.jpg

<< Comment #714 @ 03:27 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #467

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/...paul_2.jpg
see? it's true!
shitty monitors!

<< Comment #576 @ 16:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #442

nervous twitch apparently

<< Comment #507 @ 13:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #439

doh..he's the only player i have problem understanding at times with his silent fast speech.. i really hate it because he usually says meaningful stuff apart from the rest

<< Comment #444 @ 10:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

how much time left?

<< Comment #454 @ 10:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #444

watch the betting times

<< Comment #451 @ 10:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

go fox!!!

<< Comment #453 @ 10:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

OMG, shitty monitors! :p

<< Comment #457 @ 10:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #453

shitty monitors, consider them!

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<< Comment #469 @ 11:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (190.144.163.86)

i really hope matches get delayed so when i get off college i can watch some live, because according to eswc mondays and tuesdays are serious business for tourneys :s

<< Comment #458 @ 10:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

wait noctis is out?? waht happpened lol

<< Comment #459 @ 10:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #458

he forfeited, 'cause he can't play on the monitors like the 25 other guys.

<< Comment #465 @ 11:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #459

lame behaviour.

<< Comment #460 @ 10:56 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #458

shitty monitors, that's happenzed

<< Comment #462 @ 11:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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TAFKAagardenchair

Feel my mouse. Nice good.

<< Comment #463 @ 11:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

JIBO MY LOVE YOU MUST WIN!!

<< Comment #464 @ 11:07 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

FU NOCTIS! THAT'S JUST AN EXCUSE AND YOU KNOW IT. SHAME ON YOU.

<< Comment #470 @ 11:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #464

yeah, wtf? make such a long trip just to forfeit when everybody else endures the same conditions?

im really disappointed by you noctis

<< Comment #476 @ 11:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #470

I am not really surprised. After ESWC Masters he was whining already about the event being in the USA and how it's not his desired destination to travel blahblah...

Edited by timmah at 12:00 CDT, 26 August 2008

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Nicky - Reply to #464

it was only the last match and he wasnt going to go through anyways so was only playing for points really, oh and hunter didnt play his last match either

<< Comment #471 @ 11:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tzz

cypher is feeling his mouse again

<< Comment #473 @ 11:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Slajer

GTV servers are connected to two master GTV servers and are redistributed accordingly.

US relays:
gtv.takingbackesports.com:27960 (GTV1)
gtv.takingbackesports.com:27961 (GTV2)

Europe (German) relays:
83.142.85.186:30000 (GTV1)
83.142.85.186:30001 (GTV2)

83.142.84.114:30002 (GTV1)
83.142.84.114:30003 (GTV2)

All GTV servers connected to GTV1 master are broadcasting the same matches, same goes for those connected to GTV2 master.

At least thats the current status..it might change for the playoffs.
I hope this clears up some confusion that i see on GTV servers :)

Edited by Slajer at 11:39 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #474 @ 11:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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haazz

go go JIBO!!!!! :D

<< Comment #475 @ 11:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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joth

obviously it´s hard to le´t one guy from the crew take care of the demos and upload them at eswc´s ftp to our SATISFACTION

Edited by joth at 11:41 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #482 @ 12:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ted

u are lol

<< Comment #483 @ 12:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

U ARE LOL

CHANCE WINS ESWC!!

<< Comment #485 @ 12:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM

Well apparently, chance is lol.

<< Comment #487 @ 12:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tom

i want chance to win this whole thing

<< Comment #488 @ 12:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde '

what are you guys bumbling about?

<< Comment #489 @ 12:31 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #488

Chance won t4
Cypher: U are lol
Cypher: man
Chance: Thanks?
Chance: gg

<< Comment #491 @ 12:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #489

Ahaha, what a sore loser.

<< Comment #495 @ 13:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^never seen jibo having such a weak lg
minotors must bne really really shit then

<< Comment #711 @ 03:20 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #495

his lg saved him against zero4 though on the final teleport frag :p

<< Comment #496 @ 13:04 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

ZE KILLSEN WINS

<< Comment #497 @ 13:07 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM

Ahh it sucks that rapha and z4 are in the same group but oh well, only one of the 2 can go to the next stage now

<< Comment #498 @ 13:09 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

JIBO KING OF DM6 :D:D:D

<< Comment #500 @ 13:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

ok i saw the sudden death, how was it that jibo won? he came flying down to ra where rapha was with lg or what?

<< Comment #502 @ 13:14 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #500

Jibo hit Rapha first with lg -> the crippling effect etc (+ he had more hp&armor)

Edited by Larvi at 13:14 CDT, 26 August 2008

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terrorhead - Reply to #500

yes

<< Comment #508 @ 13:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #500

Rapha was also out of position. His vision was blocked.

<< Comment #501 @ 13:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

JIBO.

Edited by Aquashark at 13:14 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #504 @ 13:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #501

What a great game

<< Comment #526 @ 14:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #501

..coollers pupil FTW

<< Comment #505 @ 13:15 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr

PAI MEI!

<< Comment #506 @ 13:17 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

but those who lost still arent out yet right?

<< Comment #509 @ 13:30 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #506

those who lost 2 games are out if i'm right.

<< Comment #511 @ 13:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

czm out, fox out I guess

<< Comment #513 @ 14:02 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Åke Vader

Where's Lakerman!?!?!?

<< Comment #515 @ 14:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr

LOL JIBO GOT DEVASTATED INDEED.

i'm glad Z4 lost that game... there was no need to talk trash to Jibo :/
Jibo doing the kamikaze LG for the 2nd time in a row on the decider sudden death and winning :D

Edited by ashr at 14:23 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #838 @ 12:44 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #515

i'm grateful for the trash talk it adds another dimension to things.

<< Comment #516 @ 14:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_

srs`Cypher - k1llsen
ztn3tourney1 - [1:0]

1:0 ????

<< Comment #517 @ 14:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

^jibo game vs zero4 was epic !!!!!!!!

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<< Comment #520 @ 14:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #517

totally boring, jibo just runs away...

<< Comment #531 @ 14:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #520

get a clue

but how he dodges the grenades !!!!
pute tactical gensious fuck that was nice

zero4 deserved to lose beracuse of his arrogant comment
" im going to devestate you more than cooller hee"
jibo: "try"
hahhahahahahahhaha

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<< Comment #549 @ 14:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #531

yea fuck me... the dodging of those nades on dm9 was sheer class.

<< Comment #598 @ 17:49 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #531

zero4 deserved to lose beracuse of his arrogant comment
" im going to devestate you more than cooller hee"
jibo: "try"

is this a real quote? If so it's gonna have to take over from "no chance" when Cooler played DaHang

<< Comment #628 @ 19:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #598

Grammar aside, yeah, that's what he said.

Though, i REALLY doubt he was serious. z4 trolled people all day :D

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<< Comment #845 @ 13:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #628

true!

<< Comment #734 @ 04:46 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #598

ZeRo4: 'I'm gonna devestate you worse then cooller'
Jibo: ':DDDDDD'
Jibo: 'try'

<< Comment #518 @ 14:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM

Ughhh this is so unfair for z4...

actually it is fair but fucking hell is Jibo boring as hell or what..

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<< Comment #521 @ 14:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #518

i loved watching jibo play... big change from the usual +forward LG demos we see. kept me at the edge of my seat throughout. what was boring was cypher vs killsen.

Edited by ashr at 14:26 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #527 @ 14:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #521

Maybe... but that t4 game was just fantastic by z4, he deserved better

<< Comment #528 @ 14:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tom - Reply to #521

yea we get +back lg instead

<< Comment #535 @ 14:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #528

still a change. actually, jibo used more rockets and nades than LG.

Edited by ashr at 14:33 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #522 @ 14:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #518

VQ3 isn't that much different than CS.

<< Comment #525 @ 14:26 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #518

Extremely boring. I hope he never wins anything as long as he plays like a fucking coward.

<< Comment #532 @ 14:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #525

So he uses strategy, and he's a coward? Are we going to start banning certain things like CS instead of just fixing the game from the core?

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<< Comment #536 @ 14:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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^AME- - Reply to #532

always +back is a very simple strategy, nothing special...

<< Comment #539 @ 14:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #536

maybe someone should have told Z4 that.

<< Comment #543 @ 14:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #536

maybe someone should have told Z4 that.

^ this

<< Comment #567 @ 15:49 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #543

you are very consistently nearly or close to the dumbest fuck on these forums.

Are you fat?

<< Comment #572 @ 16:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #567

Jealousy is so cute! I'm also sitting at a nice and sexy 18 BMI.

<< Comment #590 @ 17:19 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #572

uhh jealous of fuckin what fatso

<< Comment #592 @ 17:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #590

Ooh, talk dirty to me.

<< Comment #735 @ 04:47 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #592

I'M GONNA THROW POOP AT YOUR WALLS WHILE I PISS IN YOUR MOUTH

<< Comment #804 @ 09:42 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #735

TITS OR GTFO

<< Comment #825 @ 10:51 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #804

durr you wanna see my manboobs?

<< Comment #606 @ 18:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #518

not to mention he lost against killsen, bye bye finals

<< Comment #519 @ 14:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carillo

funny thing is, z4 said he's gonna devastate jibo on nodm9 like he did to cooller. It just so happens that jibo wins z4 just like cooller did! If that isn't poetic justice, then what is! :D

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<< Comment #523 @ 14:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Goth4m

z4 / jibo @ nod was shit to look at, but the end was $$$$

<< Comment #524 @ 14:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xoji

z4 should of won on nodm9, jibo should take up long distance running :>

<< Comment #529 @ 14:27 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy

glad to see czm didn't let chance win, seeing he was already out.
so now the best man moves forward (chance/killsen)

<< Comment #530 @ 14:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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donka '

if fox wins rapha it will be
jib 3 0
raf 1 2
zer 1 2
fox 1 2

then Ali Naab will be spraying all over considered monitors

EDIT same if chance wins killsen

Edited by donka at 14:37 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #534 @ 14:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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donka '

btw, is there a plain audio shoutcast for this?

Edited by donka at 14:32 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #540 @ 14:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carpio

The ztn game was not boring at all! Epic game. Jibo had the guts to run out the last 4:30 minutes with only a 4 frag lead against Z4. In any other random game its boring but in ESWC it was very tense and fun to watch live.

Edited by Carpio at 14:37 CDT, 26 August 2008

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ashr - Reply to #540

my thoughts exactly.

<< Comment #542 @ 14:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #540

as if its easy to get 4 frags vs that bunker. you cant blame jibo, blame the stupid map.

<< Comment #547 @ 14:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #542

4 frags on ztn isn't too hard if you get lucky with the spawns. what's difficult is killing jibo once :P

<< Comment #548 @ 14:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #547

2 teleports and LOT of armors is what makes it extremely hard. especially vs jibo with his bunker style.

Edited by Lethe at 14:43 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #553 @ 15:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #548

[+] bunker style made me laugh :-D

<< Comment #551 @ 14:47 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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senzor - Reply to #540

yeah + in the game there were like two epic combo kills, hot stuff for moviemakers.

<< Comment #554 @ 15:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #540

idd..i usually don't like +back games..but jibo played some fantastic matches so far and because he switches tactic to thought-out running in the last 4 minutes he should suddenly die some horrible death..i for one enjoyed that game too

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<< Comment #544 @ 14:38 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

did rapha beat fox or what? i cant' see the game anywehre

<< Comment #545 @ 14:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #544

eswc.com says 2:0 for rapha

<< Comment #550 @ 14:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Derb_

lmao i bet FOX just gave up

<< Comment #552 @ 14:47 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carpio

Forfeit just like noctis?

<< Comment #555 @ 15:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy

MAP WIN TOURNAMENT = FAILURE.

<< Comment #556 @ 15:25 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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DizzyMage - Reply to #555

eh, stfu

<< Comment #557 @ 15:27 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #556

shut up bitch

<< Comment #558 @ 15:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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DizzyMage - Reply to #557

don't be fuckin nerdy

<< Comment #559 @ 15:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy - Reply to #558

go play WoW faggot

<< Comment #560 @ 15:30 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xiko

oh my, did fox trow the game so zero4 would not be in?

<< Comment #561 @ 15:32 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #560

Why throw away money?

<< Comment #573 @ 16:11 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xiko - Reply to #561

Maybe there was a split involved?

<< Comment #562 @ 15:36 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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random99

fox :(
czm :(

<< Comment #563 @ 15:37 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cdogg

I don't get it. It says chance is out...but if chance beats killsen 2-0...he is IN and killsen is out. Since it'd be a 3way tie with czm/chance/killsen. But chance and killsen both took 1map from cypher...so it's just those 2. then chance > killsen head to head...so chance goes?!!? What am i missing? Did they play already and it's not updated or something?

<< Comment #565 @ 15:45 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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duumed - Reply to #563

chance won 3 maps, lost 5
k1llsen won 4 maps, lost 4

chance is out

<< Comment #569 @ 15:52 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #565

Ya that's because chance lost a map to killsen. Which wasn't what i said. I said if he 2-0'd him. Which according to THIS website...it wasn't known yet but killsen was already advanced. Anyways...i guess it's right. Gay map wins...and gay rapha vs cypher..that should be the FINALS.

<< Comment #618 @ 18:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #569

and if you really want to blow your own mind.. czm, chance's teammate in EG, played chance last after going out 0-4, basically having zero chance to qualify.. what does he do for his teammate? drubs his ass down quick 2-0, thus preventing them BOTH from qualifying! Evil Geniuses indeed!

Here's clan519's response:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1603489

Edited by clan519 at 19:29 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #621 @ 18:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #618

as i already said even though i wanted chance to reach the finals, i'm glad that that didn't happen threw czm letting him win.

<< Comment #622 @ 19:02 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #621

yeah, the europeans have never done that, have they? why are you glad? i think chance is better than killsen.. hell, he beat him 2/1 in the group. .
he didn't even have to throw the whole game, just drop one map in the middle.

Edited by clan519 at 23:49 CDT, 26 August 2008

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #622

czm played q3, forgetting that bush want him to be a patriot? Fuck u and all ur team which have the balls to say it is czm's fault. If change was so great, why did he get in that situation, in the first time?

<< Comment #672 @ 22:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #622

if chance was really better than killsen, he would have had no trouble getting past an out of top form czm again.

<< Comment #697 @ 00:45 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #622

this has nothing to do with eu vs usa. i'm from europe and i wanted chance to pass the group.
but that kind of play would have cast a shadow on hes performance, and plain and simple that just it would not have been fair.
this wasn't country vs country, but pvp.

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<< Comment #742 @ 05:36 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vig^^ - Reply to #622

buuuuuuhuuuuu the bad euros.. lolz

btw qed is not a mathematical term, try google next time
retard

<< Comment #766 @ 07:22 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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graumull - Reply to #742

wp linkin

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<< Comment #717 @ 03:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #618

czm was right not to throw the match.
That would be very bad sportsmanship, to himself and all spectators.

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<< Comment #564 @ 15:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mov9k

ADMINS, please add new bets:

cypher vs rapha
jibo vs killsen

<< Comment #566 @ 15:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Bl4sT

Hehe top4 only one from USA.Super zero super chance :D Now Cypher and Jibo after two days of game in good shape on will be 1-2 place ,no chance for USA !

<< Comment #578 @ 16:31 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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oreozz - Reply to #566

Only a retard actually believe russian practice schedules. They like to have a modest playtime image.

<< Comment #587 @ 17:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #566

and hopefully for american players, av3k and nike wasn't here :o)

<< Comment #568 @ 15:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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3nickma

Jesus please start the semi-finals... Incredible why there's always delay in these tourneys! So unprofessional and even after years of doing it they can't get it right...

<< Comment #570 @ 15:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #568

Stab yourself in the face

<< Comment #571 @ 16:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #568

Players arent a robots, let them rest a little...

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<< Comment #719 @ 03:41 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #571

yes they are

<< Comment #575 @ 16:27 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fuzz

czm :(

<< Comment #580 @ 16:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl

k1llsen :D:D:D:D

<< Comment #581 @ 16:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah

Hot game on nodm9

Rapha missed many opportunities, such a shame.

Rofl at the french commentator... I'd be scared :(

<< Comment #582 @ 16:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xiko

cypher won a amazing game vs rapha right now

<< Comment #584 @ 16:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (8.Red-83-61-83.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)

did semifinals start?

<< Comment #585 @ 16:59 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

easy 12k $ for cypher.

<< Comment #586 @ 17:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

After the well known and well done q3fuel movie (eurocup, wcg, qcon and so on highlights) : http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2128

And the also famous one (eswc2005 highlights) q3fuel2 :
http://www.quakeunity.com/file=2353

I'm looking for a q3fuel like movie of the eswc.master + eswc final (I hope that linkin will have enought motivation and time, to do a work like that).

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 17:05 CDT, 26 August 2008

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<< Comment #589 @ 17:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #586

Those movies are totally off the hook man !

...

<< Comment #591 @ 17:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #589

q3fuel2 is not so bad (3 years old movie), and I spoke mainly of its contents and not about the encoding quality and so on...

The good points in q3fuel2 contents are : Lot of n1 frags, not too much 3rd recam + non-stop actions. That's what I'm looking for if a dedicated eswc movie is done.

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 17:25 CDT, 26 August 2008

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tzz - Reply to #586

It would be nice if, for a change, there would be a frag movie that showed not only impressive frags, but also interesting plays (players outsmarting each other, for example).

I think with the right direction, the footage from ESWC could make it possible.

Edited by tzz at 18:00 CDT, 26 August 2008

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rTx - Reply to #603

[-]

<< Comment #675 @ 22:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #603

i agree. the first thing i'd throw into a movie like that is jibo dodging z4's nades on dm9 in a situation where he was almost surely gonna die.

<< Comment #712 @ 03:22 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #675

so start already

<< Comment #753 @ 06:44 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #712

i need help :< don't have the time to go through all the demos. editing is easy... it's finding good action that's hard.

<< Comment #896 @ 05:33 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #753

of the top of my head:
z4's dodge jump vs jibo on nod9, jibo's final frag vs z4 on nod9, rapha's final frag vs jibo on dm6, cooller's last frag vs z4 on ztn, cypher owning killsen with a fake jump and a gren, rapha's fake rj from ra on nod9 vs jibo...

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<< Comment #976 @ 00:05 CDT, 30 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #896

thanks i'll take a look.

<< Comment #978 @ 04:11 CDT, 30 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #976

why don't you make a forum post / or journal where you ask people for help like the gamegune one.

if you want I can make that post, but you'd still have to do the selection and the movie ;)

<< Comment #673 @ 22:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #586

hmm i thought linkin was going to do it...

<< Comment #588 @ 17:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

The fuck? @ K1llsen vs Jibo ZTN :D

<< Comment #594 @ 17:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (cpc2-stap2-0-0-cust78.nott.cable.ntl.com)

K1LLSEN still using the g9 or did he give up on it?

<< Comment #593 @ 17:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic

brain was not detected

<< Comment #595 @ 17:47 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah

What's with Killsen vs Jibo, don't have quake atm :(

<< Comment #596 @ 17:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #595

killsen wins.

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<< Comment #599 @ 17:50 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #596

He seems to be the leetsauce

Thanks for the info ;>

Edited by timmah at 17:50 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #604 @ 17:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #595

2:1 for killer

<< Comment #597 @ 17:48 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cYmoZz

even considering its on shitty monitors ...

i didnt expect killsen to make it to the finals

Edited by cYmoZz at 02:56 CDT, 27 August 2008

<< Comment #600 @ 17:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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TAFKAagardenchair

Los jetzt, killsen (Go, killsen)

<< Comment #602 @ 17:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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rTx

haha take that jibowpoke !! i was falling sleep on t4, im glad the aggresive style won ^^

<< Comment #607 @ 18:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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timmah

So how's Mojo doing??!!??!

<< Comment #953 @ 00:31 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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meat man - Reply to #607

Controller semi-broke so I set a bad time trial, ended with 25th of 30 seeds.

Controller fully broke in first round so I had to forfiet my upper round 1 match.

Ran to buy a new controller for lower round 1, sucked donkey dick with it and lost.

:(

<< Comment #608 @ 18:02 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

too bad that killsen had problem with his mouse/sensitivity during the ESWC.master...

<< Comment #609 @ 18:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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egd

create a family, haha... yeah me too, but mostly the creating part.

<< Comment #613 @ 18:20 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #609

reply button?

<< Comment #610 @ 18:07 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I can't get the feeling that k1llsen somehow luckily reached the finals. I mean I do think he's a great player, however in my humble opinion he's not better than some of the participants.

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<< Comment #612 @ 18:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #610

who cares....you got to be lucky some time :D

<< Comment #616 @ 18:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #610

Quake 3 isn't exactly stable as far as results go.

<< Comment #626 @ 19:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xoji - Reply to #610

He deserves to be there. Luck, whatever you want to call it happens in every game, that's why it's exciting to watch. Otherwise we may as well watch 2 bots go at it.

There have been so many wtf moments in this tournament it's actually quite nice to see someone who wasn't expected to make top 5 be in the final for a change.

<< Comment #836 @ 12:40 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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dadS - Reply to #610

it's a tournament not a league, as willow says he deserves to be there.

<< Comment #897 @ 05:38 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #610

don't jelaous just cause k1llsen beat av3k in his group.

<< Comment #611 @ 18:10 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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smari

What map did Jibo eliminate vs Killsen?

Edited by smari at 18:11 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #615 @ 18:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #611

i guess dm6 since k1llsen is a beast on that map :)

<< Comment #620 @ 18:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #611

Last map was hub, they played t4 (k1llsen won that one) an ztn too.

<< Comment #617 @ 18:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (91-65-216-142-dynip.superkabel.de)

dm6

<< Comment #614 @ 18:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xgo

I LIKE IT!!

<< Comment #690 @ 23:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Sc0ut - Reply to #614

we like you:)

<< Comment #619 @ 18:31 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic

considering it's on shitty monitors, anyone?

<< Comment #624 @ 19:19 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #619

Some people should be banned for life, others should be banned from life.

<< Comment #632 @ 19:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #624

and some people should consider.... u know what

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<< Comment #638 @ 20:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #632

dental plan?

<< Comment #653 @ 20:50 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #638

lisa needs braces

<< Comment #772 @ 07:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #653

dental plan!

<< Comment #666 @ 21:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #619

considering it's on shitty monitors

<< Comment #625 @ 19:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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hauer

OMFG Cypher is spraying cum everywhere!

<< Comment #623 @ 19:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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madbringer

son of a bitch! fuck your god-damn delays, some of us have to get up in the morning and work, fuckballs. FUCK!

And the unorganized GTV, characteristic for eswc by now, wasn't helping things. Is it REALLY such a fucking chore to name rooms according to matches played in them, and have ONE person per gtv who would spam centerprint from time to time telling what's what?

Fucksake. ASSHOLES!

And don't organize international tourneys in USA, k. So, uh, won't be dropouts and tournament format retardation?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Considering its on shitty monitors.

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<< Comment #870 @ 19:44 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #623

at least all the games were on GTV. Delays were sad but I didn't miss a single game I actually tried to see. Would have liked double elimination after first group stage, but still really nice tourney. Thx ESWC :D

<< Comment #627 @ 19:24 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cl0ck

Ok so I have a white macbook. Is there anyway I could install q3 and be able to get on GTV?

<< Comment #629 @ 19:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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rTx - Reply to #627

http://www.trisoup.com/easyq3.txt

fastest way

<< Comment #630 @ 19:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic - Reply to #627

q3 only runs on pink macbooks

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<< Comment #637 @ 20:03 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #627

Yes. I've tried.

<< Comment #695 @ 00:17 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #627

sure, been watching on my macbook all the time. i use ioquake. http://www.ioquake3.org/

if you however find out how to fix the mouselag under osx pls let me know :/

Edited by fragmaster_ at 00:18 CDT, 27 August 2008

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Anonymous (STATIC223.iona.edu) - Reply to #695

lol u guys are clueless..just install windows using bootcamp. Ever thought why so many people are buying imacs and macbooks now? :P

<< Comment #835 @ 12:21 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #833

naah don't wanna use windows :<

my 2 button logitech mouse is really good under osx / q3, there is no mouse accell etc whatsoever. i bought a ms explorer 3.0 a while ago because i thought i might give it a try, it was horrible.

<< Comment #633 @ 19:34 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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duumed

Cypher-k1llsen about to start

83.142.85.186:30001 room 8

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<< Comment #634 @ 19:35 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/18261-rapha_..._ESWC_2008

Esports spirit!

Edited by MEFajpE^ at 19:38 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #657 @ 21:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fazz - Reply to #634

Ok. Only me that hears someone say "red is at 45" or something like that????????????????????????

<< Comment #665 @ 21:22 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #657

Na, not just you, I heard it too.

HAXXX!!!!

Hehe, I don't think it was intentional - just over eager spectators. I don't think he could've heard it clearly and it would probably be more annoying than anything (presuming he already had the RA time).

<< Comment #732 @ 04:28 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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kAi^ - Reply to #657

yup heard also , thats abit lol .

<< Comment #736 @ 04:56 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stripy - Reply to #657

rapha delayed the ra pickup till :20, so he was well aware of its timing.

but kinda strange if spec could help players during the games

<< Comment #834 @ 12:20 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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fazz - Reply to #736

I don't doubt that rapha can time on his own. :) I don't doubt anything about him after this tournament.

But it's just bad manners too talk about the game behind a playing players back. Especially mentioning item times. Rapha didn't do it. Vo0 did as carmac said, and zero4 was there aswell. They should know better imo.

<< Comment #635 @ 19:57 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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fuzz

rapha had to be few steps +backwards to win jibo :0

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<< Comment #687 @ 23:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #635

hahahahahhaha
(jibo ftw by the way)

<< Comment #639 @ 20:05 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy

Madjar = FAGGOT

<< Comment #640 @ 20:16 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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s.a.y

kill the stream in finals ?

W T F ?

<< Comment #643 @ 20:39 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic

grats cypher... again

<< Comment #644 @ 20:39 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mic

dm6 was funny

<< Comment #645 @ 20:40 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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rTx

MOST FUCKING INTENSE MATCH EVER !! THX JIBO FOR NOT BEING IN FINALS AND CONGRATZ CYrPHER 1!

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<< Comment #646 @ 20:41 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xoji

Biggest surprise of the tournament goes to Killsen, GJ.

<< Comment #651 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #646

You mean rapha, don't you?

<< Comment #747 @ 06:04 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #651

I don't think he does, IMO Rapha was expected, k1llsen wasn't..

<< Comment #823 @ 10:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #651

People expected Rapha to place top 4-ish, no one thought K1llsen would make it through the group 1 phase.

<< Comment #647 @ 20:42 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic

For a tournament with so many tie games, it really should have been overtime instead of sudden death.

<< Comment #654 @ 20:50 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #647

what

<< Comment #662 @ 21:13 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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rTx - Reply to #654

?
overtime is 2 extra minutes and sudden death first kill wins

<< Comment #669 @ 21:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #662

what

<< Comment #671 @ 22:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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rTx - Reply to #669

oh, hi

<< Comment #688 @ 23:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #647

i think so too

<< Comment #648 @ 20:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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candyshopper

First of all great final, especially on dm6, too bad killsen picked the wrong weapon in OT, would have loved to see a third map.
Anyways, see you in Quake Live.

<< Comment #649 @ 20:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #648

qft@all

<< Comment #650 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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OmeN_

congrats Cypher...but I don't agree with the rules so much. It's been unfair for too many players...

<< Comment #652 @ 20:45 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ArKtiK

DM6 was sick as shit.. OT but K1ll kept using fucking rockets. Cypher is a LG / RG whore, but THAT is what Quake 3 is. Was a great game nonetheless.

<< Comment #661 @ 21:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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daka '

dm6 was intense, fgg, killsen really surprised everybody, 2bad it wasn't a 3mapper finals, but anyway was great.

Kiilsen was unlucky with that rail in OT, he hit it, but Cypher had lg and there's nothink he could do, anyway fgg Killsen.

and i agree with omn, the rules sucked

congrats Cypher

<< Comment #660 @ 21:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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dOce

gratz k1llsen! :)

<< Comment #655 @ 20:58 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vkl

k1llsen played great... but sadly used rail and then lg....he would have won if he picked lg in the first place.

and one more thing....carmac, if you pretend to know quake and it´s players....you should know k1llsen, since he is know international since 04 and can beat almost everyone.....carmac has become a fuckin JOKE....!

Edited by vkl at 03:15 CDT, 27 August 2008

<< Comment #664 @ 21:21 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #655

Want some capslocked cheese with you capslocked whine?

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<< Comment #667 @ 21:33 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #664

capslock is cruise control for cool

<< Comment #802 @ 09:37 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #664

made me lol at wrk

<< Comment #818 @ 10:37 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #655

"and can beat almost everyone"

oooooh really? is that why this was his FIRST international final?
¬¬

<< Comment #831 @ 11:46 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #818

you are stupid....look at q3 and q4 tourneys since 04.....and you`ll find k1llsen. btw i said almost everyone, which doesn`t mean he has to be a finalist :F

<< Comment #856 @ 15:01 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #831

Well, to me "beat almost everyone" means to AT LEAST get to semi-finals MOST of the times you know...

Don't think people are stupid just because they think differently then you, stupid.

<< Comment #892 @ 05:12 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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graumull - Reply to #818

dont care , but it wasnt his first final :p

<< Comment #931 @ 11:12 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #892

well, I remember Carmac saying it was (the first INTERNATIONAL one), just be4 the game.

<< Comment #941 @ 13:50 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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graumull - Reply to #931

since when do commentators get a clue about anything ? :D

<< Comment #656 @ 21:01 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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phz

Awesome tournament :)

Congrats cypher

Damn, q3 is just so competitive right now. So many players who are capable of beating eachother. Just need to look at the results to see a hell of a lot of a>b>c>a sorta results. It would be even worse if the rest of the best russians (and bellarussians) showed up at these tourneys.

dm6 in the finals was an awesome game. Specing killsen was just like watching cypher - hitting clutch rockets and rails to win fights out of no where. I missed a hell of a lot of matches though, so I'll enjoy going through them over the week.

WP to all the americans. While none made it to the finals, hopefully this decent showing will stop a bit of the hating around here, I doubt it though :). Very nice showing by Rapha, he must feel pretty hard done by to finish 3rd when he only dropped two sets - both of them against players he also bet once! Guess he just didn't win the ones that mattered most. Rapha showed some nice map control and patience in his matches - think he's part russian.

Sadly I slept through jibo vs z4 match. I've seen the pt4 score though lol. I'm glad someone finally had the balls to play z4 there, but I actually thought jibo if anyone would keep it close. Sheesh.

I have kinda been a supporter of this map selection format in the past - it does tend to force players to be more rounded. I used to find it frustrating to see hub specialists always pick hub back when it wasn't widely played - just seemed a little unfair. I think nowadays though, I'd prefer to bring back the old pick, pick, elimination format. I miss seeing players on their specialist maps. Under that format, I would expect the likes of Noctis and z4 to perform very well.

Ah well, great tournament. Death of q3 as qlive comes along? I'm not so sure after watching that czm video - he makes a good point :)

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<< Comment #689 @ 23:47 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #656

yes the ewsc map selection is really really great

its somekind bestof5 cause the map you probably lose anways is deleted
cypher is the msot allround palyer on all 5 maps he deserves it really

<< Comment #659 @ 21:12 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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hauer

Great final and tournament overall. Go Cypher!
The most memorable moment was, however, this.

<< Comment #668 @ 21:43 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Larvi

Final match demos
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1603646
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1603646
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1603646 !!!

<< Comment #670 @ 21:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

quake3 demos from my demos directory -some might be incomplete, but well, this is all I got
http://rapidshare.com/files/140418917/ESWC_Quake3_Finals.zip.html

<< Comment #674 @ 22:23 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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tom

that was an absolutely awesome tournament. i just wish k1llsen could have taken dm6 at the end with that rail 14:59 cypher had right on 100hp,

Edited by tom at 22:24 CDT, 26 August 2008

<< Comment #676 @ 22:29 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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ashr

bah fell asleep and missed the finals :<

<< Comment #716 @ 03:30 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #676

same here!!!
10 Minutes befrore the final I was like "k guys, you got my phone number. WAKE ME UP when it's about to start." Unfortunately I didn't hear my phone... fucking shit

<< Comment #842 @ 13:09 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #716

Me too :< Last thing i saw was the vote for dm6. Then I woke up a few hour later seeing my headphones broken on the floor.

<< Comment #988 @ 11:28 CDT, 1 September 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #842

LOL :P

<< Comment #677 @ 22:30 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Jazzy

just watched the interview with CZM. wat a gentleman. nice guy, got his head screwed on, ultimately respectful.
knows his shit too. fair play bud.

<< Comment #680 @ 22:46 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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nekon

very nice tourney, i enjoyed the gtv spam
considering its on shitty monitors

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<< Comment #693 @ 23:56 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #680

you where this fucking sapmming guy with the monitors shit!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahrggggg!!!!!!!
STOP IT
..oh well its over ..BUT NEVER DO IT AGAIN!!!
please

<< Comment #698 @ 00:49 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #693

no i wasn't, was some dude named nekon<3k1llsen. how's that me?
considering...

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<< Comment #715 @ 03:28 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #698

you are the reason why GTV implemented the \gtv_nospeech 1 feature

<< Comment #745 @ 05:59 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #715

y halo thar

<< Comment #857 @ 15:39 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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nekon - Reply to #715

did you see what people wrote when there wasn't my spam? like @ jibo games it was either FREE TIBET or TIBET BELONGS TO CHINA!

<< Comment #794 @ 09:11 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #680

Your "he's 50 steps ahead" during the Rapha vs. Cypher game had me laughing to tears. Made it that much more memorable!

GJ! Pluses for yous.

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Jamerio :

Look's like rapha came through in the end and surprised everyone and dare I say got the last laugh?

The dm6 thing he did to take it into OT, was one of the most memorable things I have seen in q3:)

Glad to see him and Kilsen get something cos they deserved it.
Jibo annoyed me, he played like a sneaky fucking Russian the whole time. Iff22 did good too.

<< Comment #692 @ 23:54 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #681

please wtf
its sport its about money

JIBALITY POWER!!
its the first toruney i loved jibos style ..maybe you find this love also sometime :)

<< Comment #900 @ 05:54 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #692

I would love to have seen jibo's games but there was womenz cs on stream. And I also had to watch some paint dry.

<< Comment #741 @ 05:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #681

I think most people respect rapha's skills, he just gets ribbed a lot for his 5 steps comment because it was funny.

<< Comment #682 @ 22:53 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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Aaron

emo fox and noctis (their own fault) and fucking stupid cooller and no avek

USA got lucky etc.etc.

<< Comment #683 @ 23:08 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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vedic - Reply to #682

oh yeah, what happened with fox?

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Jazzy - Reply to #682

<tms`Jazzy> aaron
<tms`Jazzy> i agree with ur commment
<tms`Jazzy> but in fairness dude - u can only play against wats in front of ya
<tms`Jazzy> if i was the management of 4K i would have sacked noctis long ago

<< Comment #720 @ 03:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #684

that and what Aaron said.
what a waste of money and time really.

<< Comment #743 @ 05:42 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #682

what did they do besides raging and having a bad haircut (raging others with that)?

<< Comment #685 @ 23:28 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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xou

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2008/eswc2008/Quake3/

Hopefully more to come

<< Comment #691 @ 23:51 CDT, 26 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

and btw what about the many ragequits ?

i dont know how it is from the perspective of the players ...
but fatality should teach this noobs (cypher inlcuded) to fight till the last second and not rage quit .. i remeber noctis . fox . cypher and maybe others who just gave up in a map ...

<< Comment #696 @ 00:22 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #691

see that's why ali nab gets my respect. being raped 50:0 on every map but i haven't seen him whining or ragequitting.

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<< Comment #708 @ 03:09 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #696

indeed!
But it wasn't only ragequits. Very often people were saying "gg" and right after that voting for the next map. I really hated that. But I must say I can feel the gamers who have to play with such crappy TFTs.

<< Comment #730 @ 04:19 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (254-162-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz) - Reply to #696

he probably doesn't know the right command

<< Comment #721 @ 03:50 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #691

I rarely agree with you, but ragequits, giving up and callvoting other maps before time is up.. is just wrong.

<< Comment #694 @ 00:08 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

killsen lg is so weak man how did he made it to the finls wit hsuch an handicap..

czm 2005 on hub looked more impressive then all cyphers here
guess the level of skill was just higjher then

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Jazzy - Reply to #694

did u not see Cypher vs. czm on ztn in the 2nd group stage? havent seen such a dominating show of skill since toxic in q4 at his height. was really extremely impressive

<< Comment #746 @ 06:03 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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garz - Reply to #694

yeah killsen had more accuracy than cypher in the finals, what a handicap. :D

<< Comment #769 @ 07:26 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #694

czm is definetily not on the top of his game

<< Comment #770 @ 07:29 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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graumull - Reply to #694

weak? lol? :D

<< Comment #699 @ 01:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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JCK

gg fag again, grats to k1llsen!

so whats next...

can we finally masturbate with stolen cheese ?

<< Comment #700 @ 02:10 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Shaddap

Best player won..

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<< Comment #703 @ 02:28 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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exp!

again EU > USA

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GUArd - Reply to #703

this time i can say EU = USA , or even EU < USA :/ but it`s 1st time from let`s say 2001 :D

<< Comment #764 @ 07:14 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #705

if (EU <= USA)
{
TopTwo != EU
}
else
{
EU > USA
}

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donka ' - Reply to #764

back to school please, topTwo should be the argument of that bool function

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ashr - Reply to #792

never took up coding in school :<

<< Comment #801 @ 09:33 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #764

im not pro in this shit :))
but talk like man. noctis , fox, cooller jibo was beated by usa players..

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ashr - Reply to #801

neither am i :P

<< Comment #704 @ 02:35 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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senzor

can't believe that rapha's 8-8 frag on dm6... GTV must've gone crazy. Never seen such thing before in tournaments and I doubt I ever will.

<< Comment #718 @ 03:41 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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[DOA]XiLLy - Reply to #704

What happened?

<< Comment #722 @ 03:55 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #718

watch the demo, pretty impressive if i remember correctly :)

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senzor - Reply to #718

just watch it, I don't want to spoil it for you, here's the direct link to the demo. Rapha POV

ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2008/eswc2008/Quake3/Day%202/sk-rapha(POV)-vs-RazerJ-pro-q3dm6-2008_08_26-08_58_58.dm_68.rar

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[DOA]XiLLy - Reply to #725

PM me what happened then, I don't have Quake3 or a disk anywhere =)

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Mav_ - Reply to #704

demo plz? :<

ed: just found it @ ftp://ftp.eswc.com/demos/2008/eswc2008/Quake3/Day%202/sk-rapha(POV)-vs-RazerJ-pro-q3dm6-2008_08_26-08_58_58.dm_68.rar

jesus, that was insane ;o

Edited by Mav_ at 04:19 CDT, 27 August 2008

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #704

yeah was hell of spamming ..and the ned was just $$

<< Comment #707 @ 03:07 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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DizzyMage

Now that CZM did really shitty in the last 3 tournaments can we label him as the most overrated Quake playert of all time? Winning shit tournaments like Q'con 04 and the massively underskilled CPL 06?

Czm is the the most overrated Quake player ever, with FOx a close second.

<< Comment #709 @ 03:10 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #707

i liked that he did not give up the match against chance...i still think he's a top player

<< Comment #724 @ 03:56 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #707

I dont know about fox, has been constently in the top for like 7 years now?
He is the most wellrounded and balanced player ive ever seen, sadly he doesnt have anything he excel's at, he is just very balanced :p

<< Comment #782 @ 07:56 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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linged - Reply to #724

Fox has consistently been in the top, but never on top.
There have always been a couple of guys just a little bit stronger than him in duel, and when a tournament like this comes around, where many players are in topshape, his game just doesn't seem good enough to win it all.

Fox simply lacks something in his game to get an edge over the really tough competition.

He managed to beat k1llsen in the groupstage though, showing how close the margins are.

<< Comment #784 @ 08:33 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #782

Yea that was kinda what I was trying to get at :)

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Carsomyr - Reply to #707

But the gospel says old-school > new-school. Now I'm confused.

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Anonymous (61.149.136.9) - Reply to #707

what about 2nd place of eswc2k5 and qlan2

<< Comment #723 @ 03:55 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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cumrag

no galleries?

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<< Comment #726 @ 04:05 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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[mash]

that rail at the bridge on dm6 when k1llsen got rocketjumped .... was so niiice.

<< Comment #727 @ 04:06 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Deimos

Killsen is just like Akiles. One big achievement and nothing significant in futue. I believe it is really so.

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<< Comment #731 @ 04:28 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #727

lol just lol

<< Comment #737 @ 05:00 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #731

time will show

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spEEdbird - Reply to #737

mainly because there is no future for q3?

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Deimos - Reply to #744

Don't think so. Mainly, cause I doubt that he can maintain his actual shape. And, anyways, other top contenders like jibo, fox or zero4 look much more solid:) Though he was very good on ESWC and won not because of luck but excellent performance. gg

<< Comment #768 @ 07:22 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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DizzyMage - Reply to #757

They certainly weren't more solid at this tournament, though.

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nemecel - Reply to #744

Hello, welcome to QuakeLive.

Im Crash etc

<< Comment #985 @ 05:51 CDT, 31 August 2008 >>

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spEEdbird - Reply to #980

q3 :p

<< Comment #968 @ 11:19 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #731

your lol

<< Comment #739 @ 05:15 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #727

CHA CHA !!!!!

<< Comment #755 @ 06:49 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p5DC36AA4.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #727

You're a clown. No significant future maybe because pro gaming offers none. As they grow up, ppl have to start pursuing a life you know ...

<< Comment #758 @ 06:57 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #755

Really? Agree, that progaming, in Europe at least, can't provide income to support family. But I didnt here killsen is going to quit gaming in order to make family. And yeah, u'll see a clown in the mirror, stupid anonymous kid.

<< Comment #832 @ 11:47 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #758

lol again....k1llsen has a family. why do you think he spams: "don`t kill me i have wife and kids" before every game. he has a girl and is father of boy :F

<< Comment #859 @ 16:34 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p5DC36AA4.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #832

Besides that it's not only about having a family now or in the near future. It's simply about working on a job career and getting a proper education like college etc.

While pro gaming might make you a couple of bucks a month now, it certainly won't in 20 years. And it's not like football, too, where you can play 10 years and basically enjoy the rest of your life.

So please nobody be surprised "oldskoolers" not being as good as they used to be. Once you're over 20 you got to start thinking about other stuff.

<< Comment #874 @ 21:01 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #832

yeah and that makes him an idiot. take some responsibility for your family instead of hunting these childhood dreams, jesus christ

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graumull - Reply to #874

i would say earning 7k is taking care of your family :D

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funnyb - Reply to #893

and thats the only real amount he ever won. no thats not taking care of your family, thats like putting all your savings into poker and OH JEEZ I HOPE I WIN SOMETHING

its retarded

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graumull - Reply to #919

what ? play a month and fly to san jose to get 7k is what?

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funnyb - Reply to #943

yeah play a month is what he did, right.

well argued.

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Jamerio : - Reply to #893

7000 dollars is about 2 months salary to a lot of people and babies shit like the falls.

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Deimos - Reply to #832

Ok, my bad, I didn't know that. But on yhe other hand that fact only proves my POV, cause it's extremely hard to rise properly two children and to play quake on top competitive level at the same time.

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vkl - Reply to #884

there i have to agree for the first time :)
that is why k1llsen said it might be his last tourney, but for now he is not sure. he thinks more about his family at the moment and i can understand that :)

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Mav_ - Reply to #727

Well, the difference between these two is that Akiles was actually WINNING his games at WCG. K1llsen is probably the only Quake 3 player in history to finish 2nd in a major tournament after losing two games in a four-man group and barely advancing from it. Overall, he had lost three matches along the whole event, versus fox, chance, and Cypher. And he still managed to finish second.

This is how close and random the Quake 3 ESWC 2008 tournament at San Jose was.

Edited by Mav_ at 09:26 CDT, 27 August 2008

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Deimos - Reply to #800

Well, ESWC system is a point for other discussion. What I wanted to say is that I don't believe he will mange to repeat/improve his record in future.

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Mav_ - Reply to #810

Well, a group system is usually pretty fair. But if the skill gap of the top Quake 3 players is so small that basically any top8 player can win the whole tournament, then you have to have at least some luck in order to achieve top placings.

<< Comment #872 @ 20:48 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #800

Good point. The skill level is so damn close that small things can effect results a lot.

Side note:
I think people ought to look at these tournaments more like an individual sporting event like golf or tennis. Tennis players and golf players will often have several bad tournaments in a row or go through a slump. It doesn't mean that people should simply declare that sportsmen useless or whatever. And it doesn't mean one player is absolutely better than another from one result or even a few. You ought to look in things over a wider time frame. People just seem to quick to come to silly conclusions such as killsen is outright #2 in the world or that czm was never a good based on a small sample of events. The ranking system someone made a while back for q4 was pretty cool. People were awarded points for placings weighted by how prestigious the tournament was.

<< Comment #885 @ 02:51 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Mav_ - Reply to #872

Yeah, but the problem with Quake 3 is that you have much less events than in tennis or golf. And even if you do have some major tournaments then you have to have a sponsor in order go there, and not everyone who deserves it has one. That's why some really talented players sometimes just do not compete to the level that they are able to simply because they do not have the opportunities to develop themselves.

<< Comment #938 @ 12:45 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #885

no you don't need a sponsor to go there

you need a true love for the game and need to get yourself there. yet another reason why gaming will (any time soon) never be anything comparable to a sport.

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Mav_ - Reply to #938

That's very romantic but the brutal reality is that most often you just simply do not have the assets to afford the risk of paying all costs of a long trip to another country and winning nothing

In Poland, where we do have some players that I'd surely be proud of in an event like ESWC Masters, a cost of flying to France and spending a couple days there equals 1/2-3/4 of an average month salary. This is a shit load of money for a young laddie that is still, for instance, learning and earning nothing or very little.

Therefore, those kind of guys have no international experience whatsoever and I think that we will all agree that there are moments in tournaments that experience is decisive.

And it's a closed circle - you can't gain experience, therefore you can't win with equally skilled but more experienced players. So, even if you go there, you end up losing and will not risk another time.

Yeah, there may be exceptions, but let's face it - how many great talents did we not discover because of that simple and brutally mundane economic situation of the middle-class young people?

ed: typo

Edited by Mav_ at 14:56 CDT, 28 August 2008

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Larvi - Reply to #727

K1llsen came second at CPL Italy 2006, only losing to Fox in the final.
He also finished second at Kode5 at Games Convention Leipzig (thats Quake 4 though), losing to Toxic. (I know, actually Cooller should've played but he was too lazy to get up on time lol)

Edited by Larvi at 10:39 CDT, 27 August 2008

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dansen - Reply to #727

cpl italy?

<< Comment #729 @ 04:13 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Kage

Bah why cypher :-/. I was so rooting for Jibo :(

<< Comment #748 @ 06:07 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #729

me too but he fucked up in semis as usual. His problem is the same as foxs, he can't play offensively that good and when he needs to run and chase opponents he always fail. He is the best on keeping one frag leads though, and he do its in fashion.

<< Comment #761 @ 07:06 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #729

what did i tell you about cypher?

<< Comment #733 @ 04:40 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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AHXNXA

lmao @ cooller

<< Comment #756 @ 06:49 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (203-59-185-50.dyn.iinet.net.au)

Yay for jibo and killsen! Great tourney!

Missed seeing nike and av3k though.

<< Comment #754 @ 06:49 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (host86-156-189-204.range86-156.btcentralplus.com)

What a horrifyingly awful reception the egyption player got from the gtv spec's. Its been a long time since I witnessed so much collective
racism, hard to believe that most of these people are in their mid 20's or older. And racism aside, the non stop mockery from the rest, why? what was his crime? being invited? turning up? taking his beating without whining? I despair... egypt is one of the most impoverished countries on earth, I think they have their hands full just surviving let alone putrifying behind a monitor getting their rail aim tweaked.

I'm sure eswc recognised the disparity in skill, but I applaud them for running the qualifier in that part of the world and the player himself for turning up and trying his best instead of giving up.

I dont expect much of a response to this post since a lot of those names on gtv are right here on this thread, proud and oblivious.

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amOKchen - Reply to #754

Well Though i agree with most of your post, I dont think they made fun of him participating. Rather it was the name who had a funny ring to it. ALI L N.A.B :p

<< Comment #760 @ 07:06 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #754

agreed...and he played his matches without quitting once even if he was raped in every match...

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ix - Reply to #754

"egypt is one of the most impoverished countries on earth"

No it's not.

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Anonymous (host86-156-189-204.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) - Reply to #765

GDP Per Capita
bangladesh - $1,300
egypt - $5,491
UK - $37,328
sweden - $36,900
US - $43,444

Oh but wait, you sound so sure, I can only assume that you actually lived/worked there for a few months as I did. Curious though, we must have seen the same egypt in two different universes.

<< Comment #814 @ 10:11 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #808

No, I looked at the GDP stats, life expectancy and so on, they're not a first world country but there are far too many countries a lot worse off than them for calling them one of the most impoverished countries not to get questioned.

<< Comment #824 @ 10:44 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #808

what does it matter if you lived in egypt, if you haven't lived in really poor countries?

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lolograde ' - Reply to #808

GDP per capita in US$ is a really bad way of looking at living conditions. Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) is much better for understanding the cost of living and living standards in a given country.

Edited by lolograde at 12:47 CDT, 27 August 2008

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dansen - Reply to #837

HDI (Human Developement Index) is probably the most accurate, because it takes things into account that are more important than money.
and egypt is at rank 112, which is pretty bad

Edited by dansen at 04:38 CDT, 28 August 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #889

It's hard to measure something that isn't explicitly quantifiable. HDI isn't something I'm very familiar with, but I believe a lot of the "measurements" are subjective rather than quantitative.

I know HDI uses things like life expectancies, but doesn't it use other more subjective things like "happiness" or something like that?

As for the issue of Egypt, I have no clue. I've never been there and I haven't really that much experience studying Egypt either.

Edited by lolograde at 07:48 CDT, 28 August 2008

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dansen - Reply to #908

i think it uses life expectancy, relative amount of literate people amoung the population, and relative amount of children that are visiting schools.
in my opinion thats a very good method of determining 'wealth'.

Edited by dansen at 11:55 CDT, 28 August 2008

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Carsomyr - Reply to #754

You actually got GTV chat on? Some sort of self-flagellation on your part?

<< Comment #778 @ 07:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #776

it's part of the experience! :p

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #754

carmac: interview with ali nab pls!

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<< Comment #790 @ 08:52 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #787

would be nice to see his opinion about the event....

<< Comment #821 @ 10:41 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #787

i second that! :)

<< Comment #809 @ 09:45 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (bzl197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) - Reply to #754

Well, in Egypt there is 20% of population living below poverty line, while in UK it is 14% (data from 2006), so i wouldn't say that "they have their hands full just surviving".

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Anonymous (host86-156-189-204.range86-156.btcentralplus.com) - Reply to #809

UN/OXFAM put the figure over 30% and rising. According to the UN there's between 20-23 million people below the poverty line. Thats just assessing the *poverty line*, now take into account all the factors that are missing from the picture such as industrialisation, technological infrastructure etc Sure you'll probably get a glimpse of that from places like cairo but remember this is north africa, mostly desert.

If the figure of 14% is accurate for the UK, thats still a shocking 8 million people but its a completely different context for us here - technological & industrial infrastructures in place, social welfare etc.

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Larvi - Reply to #754

lol did you watch any K1llsen game?
50% of the comments were the usual "lol kraut hitler omg german porn is da best" madness :D

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #817

well, german pron IS the best! :p

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tourist - Reply to #830

the fuck it is.. worst porn of all the bad porn out there. except for the luls "blas mich doch einer" etc :)

<< Comment #865 @ 18:48 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #817

And thank God nobody ever rips people off from countries like United States or Russia!

<< Comment #877 @ 21:15 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #754

Naw man, i, personally, just found the fact that he was so terribly underskilled funny. Maybe it is cruel, but you'd expect higher skill level from someone participating in the final tournament, no? Racial prejudice has nothing to do with this.

That being said, props to him for showing up and playing all his games from start to finish, even if he is, frankly, a horrible player.

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xterm - Reply to #754

I agree I was one the q3 admins at the event. ALI I N.A.B was a really nice guy and I applaud him for coming all the way over here to compete. The poor guy forgot his headphones, luckily one of the other admins had a pair that he could use. I didn't see what was said on gtv since I was there but if people were bashing him that much I frown upon you.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #879

It was just that usual unloading of shit ppl had been piling up for months on some random guy, where Ali apparently was an easy target. As much as it stinks not to be taken that serious I guess.

<< Comment #750 @ 06:25 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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m4z

k1llsen won like every online tournament he attended in the last 3-4 years and was 2nd @cpl italy, beating jibo. he already achieved more than akiles ever will.

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funnyb - Reply to #750

wow online tournaments, REALLY? how impressive.

<< Comment #751 @ 06:28 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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shqdow

wp killsen!

<< Comment #752 @ 06:38 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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exxxie

Finals rocked, a very fitting end to the competitive Q3 scene. Very good DM6 game, best I've seen in a long time. Grats to Cypher, tho I was cheering for k1llsen (impressed as ever with the German dude)

<< Comment #762 @ 07:08 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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illogic

it was an amazing tourney...hope it's not the last one...

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<< Comment #767 @ 07:22 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ix

It's a pity such poor rules were used. It'd have been better with groups into double elim or plain double elim than this system where czm was put in the position of being honourable or throwing a game for a teammate (respect to him for picking the former). Sudden death also seems like a poor choice, I'd thought people had come around to seeing overtime as the best option.

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DizzyMage - Reply to #767

Yeah, I also don't think czm should have really won Q'con 04 because cooller and zero4 didn't practice much. That really shouldn't count as a win for czm IMO.

I also don't think we should really count czm's cpl 06 victory as well because cooller was playing q4 that season and didn't get enough practice to play q3 at cpl 06 against czm. SO czm's cpl 06 victory shouldn't count as well either. Most of the longtime q3/q4 players didn't play in that torunament either so it shouldn't really count

so in other words, czm never really won any turnaments due to people not practicing or many people playing.

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ix - Reply to #773

What is it that you think I was saying that you were then replying to? I can't really see how to get from my post to yours.

Edited by ix at 07:35 CDT, 27 August 2008

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Carillo - Reply to #774

I was wondering that too, but then I figured it has to be the name CZM. But, quite frankly, after re-reading it with a grain of salt, I tend to think all in all it's just subtle sarcasm, the naivety cannot be explained otherwise. :)

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lolograde ' - Reply to #774

he's the [new] MrPsychology

Edited by lolograde at 08:35 CDT, 27 August 2008

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #773

shoiuldnt havents colndt forget this shit!

he won thats it he beated all thats fact
he was the best thats facts ...

and he is comletly out of shape now ..thats facts

peace and glory to one of trhe greatest palyers in q3 history

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f0cus - Reply to #773

"because ________ and ______ didn't practice much."

Oh f**king well.

<< Comment #795 @ 09:15 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #773

Cooller did practice and was obviously better then czm but he made a mistake in not training hub. It was the only weak map of him. And the lot gave hub. That's the only reason Cooller didnt win that qcon. On the other hand I should admit that a top contender must play all the maps competitive and not rely on luck.

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Aaron - Reply to #767

DE should never be used for serious LAN competition, fuck I would be happy with SE, DE is in a serious competition environment just favors better players who slip up.

best of 3 over 5 solid maps with adequate warm-up and setup time and that's more than fair. This group system works better now as there is no decent ranking that can be used for good seeding as far as using a bracket goes.

Save DE for the internet where it makes much more sense

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ashr - Reply to #767

yea sudden death is shit.

<< Comment #777 @ 07:42 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Better cypher than jibo. I think that if any of those can take quake3 to another level again that's cypher.

For fox.. this negative results.. as in for a player who practices and has been playing for so many years at the highest level just prove why he didn't used to play 1on1 at official tourneys .. and that he never should have started.

Even tho he's a player that i appreciate alot since he's very smart solid and has a consistent aim .. the place where he fits is teamdm for sure.

You shouldn't judge czm for his last 3 tourneys.. The quake3 scene has new players.. full of will to be number 1 and working hard to get there. Czm stopped playing for a years.. not saying he didn't practised for eswc just that probably he will never get as good as 3 years ago.

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tzz - Reply to #777

What's with this fox bashing?

So he doesn't place at the very top and that means he should go back to TDM? He got top 8 in a very hard tournament and is still the best player in Sweden, why would he stop playing 1on1 just because he's not the best in the world?

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alien* - Reply to #791

Not bashing fox.. as i said.. i really like his style and i would love to see him accomplish his goals and win a big one.

And even if he as what it takes.. he just doesn't seem to make it :\
And tzz.. he may aswell be the best swedish player atm.. but that's just because all the other top swedish players left the scene. Yes he was.. in my opinion the key player @ IC and probably best teamplayer in sweden.

I think he should continue trying.. just mencioning that it's obvious that he was not cutted off for 1vs1.

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tzz - Reply to #798

It wasn't really a reply to you specifically, but I read lots of negative comments about fox's play in GTV.

I don't know, being top 8 at a tournament with almost all of the best players right now doesn't scream that he's not cut off for 1on1 to me.

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tourist - Reply to #811

he has the technical ability but not the mentality for it. I guess it can happen when you beat everyone 24/7 and then come to a tourney and meet some really heavy artillery. But he's been there 100 times before, one would expect him not to totally lose it.. like vs z4 on hub.

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Mav_ - Reply to #791

I like fox and I'm surely not wishing to bash him but what I did not like about him at ESWC is that he dropped the last game only because if he had won, it wouldn't change that he did not advance. There were surely people rooting for him during the tournament or just enjoy watching him and that kind of behaviour just shows a lack of respect for those lads.

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<< Comment #812 @ 09:51 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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tzz - Reply to #803

Oh, that was bad sportsmanship and really disrespectful, no excuses, but I was talking more about his game.

Edited by tzz at 09:51 CDT, 27 August 2008

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lolograde ' - Reply to #777

No offense to Cypher, he's an amazing player and deserved his win, but I think the reasons why Cypher won this tournament basically comes down to out and out aim.

Czm said it himself where, in situations he would usually win, he was just getting railed 2x or 3x in a row and could do nothing but hope that Cypher missed his shots.

Duel and TDM players, like fox, imo build a great number of technical skills like tactics, item control, positioning, etc. But if Cypher plays a ton of RA3 or CA or whatever, he's been refining that insane aim and movement. So I wonder at this point in Q3's lifespan that if dueling or TDMing is even the route to take when practicing for high end tournaments?

Like Zero4 said in his interview, everyone knows exactly what to do on the "big 5" maps (ztn, dm6, nodm9, pt4, hub) and timing armors isn't exactly hard, so what it really boils down to at such high levels is out-aiming your opponent. There was a lot of moments in this tournament where Cypher was out of position and still able to hit insane shots on his opponents.

I'm starting to think that practicing duels for tournaments, to a certain extent, at this point may be all for nothing...

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #793

get a clue
..
cypher wan qlife aswell which is not so aimheavy cought....

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lolograde ' - Reply to #846

my shoes > your hair.

/discussion

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tourist - Reply to #793

"he was just getting railed 2x or 3x in a row and could do nothing but hope that Cypher missed his shots. "

just like his opponents did 2-3 years ago .

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<< Comment #915 @ 08:21 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #903

haha ! exactly!

<< Comment #781 @ 07:50 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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a hule?

ali nab is not as bad as the results may indicate:)

he just doesn't know all the teleports on ztn for example.

btw, there's a nice air rocket (ali POV) vs zero4 on ztn:) and several grenade facials to boot!

zero4 looks like a really nice guy. at one time on ztn he intentionally let ali get a frag!

Edited by keuf at 07:51 CDT, 27 August 2008

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phz - Reply to #781

Yeh, definately just a lack of teleporter knowledge keeping him from being in the top 8 imo :)

<< Comment #783 @ 08:03 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Carsomyr

What a mess those demo folders are.

<< Comment #796 @ 09:16 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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donka '

I just wanna give mad props to organizers of ESWC because the coverage was a triumph. I'm making a note here: "HUGE success". It's hard to overstate my satisfaction!

GTV list from ESCW live page is pimp! I don't think can ever live without it.
Scorebots for almost all matches providing the most up-to-date results were well set up.
GTV itself, of course was absolutely on the money, perfectly executed. Thank you hosters and admins.
ESR and other sites did marvelous job using everything above to create compelling coverage for the event.

MANY THANKS to everyone who particapated in trasferring the information from the event area to the masses! You did a great job.

Nicky, mad <3

Edited by donka at 09:18 CDT, 27 August 2008

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Carillo - Reply to #796

I second that!

<< Comment #805 @ 09:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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paulrrrr - Reply to #796

Oh damn I forgot to thank to organizers, admins and everyone who helped to provide coverage in updates and interviews etc. HUGE SUCCESS!

<3 THANK YOU <3

<< Comment #807 @ 09:44 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (147.70.112.169)

carmac interview with ali naab did you get one?

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<< Comment #806 @ 09:43 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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paulrrrr

Overall an amazing tournament! Respect to all the players, especially ALI NAB who finished all games unlike some other players.

But I suggest changing the tournament format to groups into double elim brackets. This way every game means something, rather then people still having to play games when they are already out which caused a few to /quit or not play their last game at all.

BIG respect to czm for playing every match as well as he could and not throwing that game to chance even if he was his team m8/country man etc. Just watch the czm interview on SK. He is the most down to earth, respectful player out there and has been for many years. It's a great interview.

I'd also like to say well done rapha, finally a good result (must have had no mouse problems this time.) and showed some of the most memorable games I have ever seen. That dm6 game 8-8.... just .... INCREDIBLE.

And also much respect to killsen too, he made it a great final hitting as many omfg shots as cypher. I'm sure he is thrilled especially since the mouse problems at masters were resolved.

I've got too much to say tbh.. I'll just finish by saying that it was a shame that avek could not attend and that crt monitors seem to be so hard get.

Is this the last quake 3 tournament ever? LOL, watch the czm interview for the answer to this question.

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<< Comment #816 @ 10:15 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy

Q3 is dead! Long live quakelive. Cypher brings out the shaft? You bring out the shotgun/rocket launcher and bounce that bitch around. Balance is restored, if that dm6 was to be played in quakelive k1llsens rockets would have raped cyphers +forward lg shit. Lets hope ql finishes up and we can all play soon. (motherfuckers are taking their sweet time on the configurations and matchmaking)

<< Comment #847 @ 13:50 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #816

man watcg qc08 and get a clue ..lg whore pfff..

<< Comment #820 @ 10:41 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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crv

no strenx demo
all stop in the start

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY HE STOP ALL HIS DEMOS !

Attached Image: 66312-strenxdemo.JPG (152KB)

Edited by crv at 15:17 CDT, 27 August 2008

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madbringer - Reply to #820

wat

<< Comment #928 @ 10:43 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #820

crv, c'est pas du MultiPov avec CPM ? Si tu prends la demo de son adversaire, tu devrais avoir le pov de strenx ? non ?

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 10:44 CDT, 28 August 2008

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #820

Maybe he thinks it may degrade the performance of the game (as happened with older rigs)

<< Comment #979 @ 08:54 CDT, 30 August 2008 >>

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a hule? - Reply to #820

:)

they are too small to be full time demos anyway

<< Comment #827 @ 11:27 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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judge717

I liked the video interviews.

<< Comment #828 @ 11:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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madbringer

vq3 - hurr, jibo is boring, hurr, everyone can +back, hurr, cypher is all aim no brain, hurr hurr hurr czm was never good hurr, cooller is overrated, hurr hurr

<< Comment #848 @ 13:51 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #828

congratuliation
you get the World Cup for bullshitting!

<< Comment #849 @ 14:00 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #848

hello, i'm selling these sarcasm detectors

<< Comment #853 @ 14:42 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #849

hello, i'm selling sarcasm makers

that said, i don't think your detectors detect sarcasm either

Edited by donka at 14:45 CDT, 27 August 2008

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madbringer - Reply to #853

i don't think so, baby :*

<< Comment #891 @ 04:52 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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SenT!neL - Reply to #849

I’m selling these fine leather jackets.

<< Comment #852 @ 14:31 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #848

xD

<< Comment #839 @ 12:59 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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ted

awesome coverage from both esr and eswc itself...wp

<< Comment #840 @ 13:03 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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AHXNXA

this is a comment

<< Comment #863 @ 17:26 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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dronesoul - Reply to #840

i challenge that!

<< Comment #918 @ 08:53 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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KekS - Reply to #863

i second that

<< Comment #923 @ 10:17 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #918

I multiply that

<< Comment #947 @ 16:19 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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somebodyshootme - Reply to #923

I got nothing.

<< Comment #851 @ 14:26 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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zech

REALLY nice coverage from the ESR crew!... appreciated!

<< Comment #855 @ 14:57 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Shardik

Congrats K1llsen. Nice event.

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uEi~ k1m'Z

galleries? ali naab pics?

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<< Comment #862 @ 17:19 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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revocelot

Which matches are worth watching? So far I've got killsen vs. cypher finals and rapha vs. jibo dm6. Awesome games! I know rapha uses a logitech but which one?

<< Comment #864 @ 18:06 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #862

cooller-z4 on ztn is worth watching. The final plasma kill is hilarious.

A real pity he dropped out that early as he seemed to be warming up and is always fun to watch. He may have some or not, but his games always project a special kind of humor. Like when he launches second attacks right after encounters where both players left health/armor points and should be happy to retreat.

In that game for example where z4 kind of surprises him at the rail tele and they exchange some rox. After z4 going through tele you wouldn't expect more to happen, but cooller comes right after and gives him another rail. That's beautiful moves and I'd really have appreciated more of that.

<< Comment #912 @ 07:53 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #864

damn you! now I have to watch the demo one more time!

<< Comment #866 @ 18:54 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #862

mx518

<< Comment #881 @ 00:09 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #862

He uses whatever cooller uses :P

That's what stuffed him up at eswc masters. Cooller brought a new config and a new mouse, rapha saw it and had to copy ;)

It's true... Spread the rumour :)

<< Comment #861 @ 17:19 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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kami-kaze

Sooooooo, as the winner of the last great Q3 tourney which included 3 old school legends and the best (bar one) of the modern players is Cypher the best player ever ?

Makes sense but I have my doubts.

<< Comment #867 @ 18:55 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #861

cypher the best ever because he has been the best for 2-3 months and most of the top players have stopped caring?

hardly

<< Comment #871 @ 20:32 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (77.127.137.134) - Reply to #867

he's the best ever because he reached the highest level of overall skill in quake 3.

obviously the more the game is being played the better players become with the years, but it just dosen't change the fact that no one in q3 history would stand against a top-form cypher, not cooller, not zero4 and not czm.

but ofcourse it changes if you choose to judge by earned titles.

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<< Comment #913 @ 08:10 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #871

the 4 year pause in serious competitive q3 scene hardly proves his the highest skilled q3 player ever. maybe he is the one of the few which did not stop playing all these years. if you will notice, the rest of the players, after a few years of lacking a serious activity, came (cum everywhere) and almost were beating him. he is not unbeatable already, compared to eswc masters. the value of matches played at eswc finals is higher than the value of matches played at eswc masters, idem ann. skilled players like zero4 and cooller almost play the same as in 2003, almost. give them a few months more of training. we'll find out the true ((c) george Bush, lol) regarding your statement if there will be more quake3/quakelive competitions, soon. else, your afirmation is not proven

<< Comment #924 @ 10:20 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #913

Getting tired of everyone saying 'coollers not in form'.

Basically, if he didnt practice enough/seriously while cypher did, cooller just didnt DESERVE to win.

<< Comment #914 @ 08:20 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #871

you saw some asus winter ?

<< Comment #876 @ 21:12 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #861

Depends on your definition of course. But I would give credit to the most accomplished players and give weightings to the tournaments they won based on prestige. Not going to actually calculate anything but it is still cooller then z4 in my opinion.

Cypher has done excellently recently, winning 3 big tournaments and doing well online. But personally, I don't feel he is so much better than we can simply say he is outright the most skilled ever. Instead, I would say he has the best recent results. You only have to look at tournament results from eswc, asus and online to see he is not untouchable. Not trying to take anything away, because he does win the big matches.

It's funny, if we were to simply end competitive golf/tennis or any other individual sport completely. Would we come to the conclusion that the most recent tournament winners must be the greatest to have ever played? Personally, I'd look over career results. Unfortunately for cypher, his q3 career has been too short to give him credit as being the best ever (in my opinion). It is this sort of thinking that lead many to say czm was the greatest ever when q3 last 'ended' since he had the greatest recent results. Now many people are recanting that statement.

All that said, judging on his recent results, I don't doubt that if q3 tournaments continued he would continue a reign similar to coollers, z4s or fats. If czm is right, maybe q3 isn't dead and cypher may get his chance to prove he is the best ever.

Edited by phz at 21:16 CDT, 27 August 2008

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Deimos - Reply to #876

Agreed. Cypher's shape atm is awsome. I also know how he started to play q3 so I can say, that he really made a great achievement. Still, cant say, that he is best ever, cause his domination on q3 scene doesn't last long enough to make that conclusion. My top 5 of all time are:
1. Cooller
2. Zero4
3. Fatality
4. Lexer/Cypher
5. czm

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phz - Reply to #888

Think I pretty much agree with that list, except I'd put lexer to 6 and leave cypher alone at 4. My 2c :)

<< Comment #906 @ 06:52 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #899

Cypher now has the world champion title - that's his major score. Lexer didn't manage to win a world title, but he was 2-nd (WCG 2002) and 3-rd (ESWC 2003), besides he won QCON 2002 which, imo, was one of the high-skilled major q3 events and he dominated very strong russian q3 scene for quite a long time. That makes me think, that I can put him on the 4-th place together with cypher. And, finally, I wouldn't place czm higher, then he is. As well as Lexer, he doesn't pocess world title: 2-nd on ESWC 2005, 2-nd (with US team) on ESWC 2004 and Qcon 2004 champion and CPL 2006 champion. Basically, almost the same records, but I still believe Lexer was better.

<< Comment #925 @ 10:23 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #906

Didn't czm win cpl06?...

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #925

"and CPL 2006 champion"

-.-

<< Comment #937 @ 12:38 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #936

Heh, I rally need new glasses:DDDD

<< Comment #916 @ 08:23 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #888

avek is the best aver
1.Toxic
2.cooller
3. zero4
4. avek (would have won this eswc)
5. fatality
..
lexer
czm
cypher
unkind

<< Comment #920 @ 09:41 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #916

That a combined q3 + q4 rating? Or duel + tdm? Or who you think is most talented list? Can't figure out the reasoning there :)

<< Comment #922 @ 10:11 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #920

q3+q4 +tdm yes

<< Comment #930 @ 10:57 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #922

if tdm then omitting fox seems kinda weird

<< Comment #950 @ 18:32 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #930

And given his nick, Stelam even odder.

<< Comment #956 @ 05:00 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #950

so true.

<< Comment #969 @ 12:10 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #956

yeah considering tdm you have to put stelam on this list.

<< Comment #926 @ 10:25 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #876

'You're only as good as your last gig.'

Anyway, let's take a look at ALL the quake3 tournaments cypher has competed in, and how many of those he won.

Do the same for every player.

I believe cypher won 100% of all his q3 events?

Cooller didnt.

<< Comment #948 @ 16:21 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #926

Cypher didn't as well. For instance, remember Asus Summer 2007, against cooller btw. Cooller is the only q3 player, who managed to win 2 world champion titles - so far this is unique record. If I'm not mistaken, only Gitzz won 2 (3?) world champion titles. Though I'm not sure it was the same unreal...

<< Comment #961 @ 08:31 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #948

fatality has 12!!!

<< Comment #964 @ 09:17 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #961

Check his site, it's 13 world championships now. Apparently he tied a tennis game with vo0 which lead to him awarding himself with his 13th world championship... In tennis!

Nadal and Federer pretty upset tbh :)

<< Comment #868 @ 19:00 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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cl0ck

Man, you guys all played so well =P. Man, gj top 3.. especially you rapha =P solid playing dog.

<< Comment #911 @ 07:51 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #868

seems, dunno why, rapha did not play the same as in first day, else he could win the toruney

<< Comment #869 @ 19:00 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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kaliberr44

What situation was between Cooller and Z4 at this event in 2002? (With this match throwing etc.) Because I really don't know q3 history and that really interest me

<< Comment #878 @ 21:47 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #869

At wcg one year, cooller and z4 were in the same group. If cooller lost to NIE (think thats his name), z4 wouldn't go through based on points. If cooller won, z4 would go through instead of NIE. Rumour has it that cooller threw the match against NIE so that he wouldn't have to face z4 again later in the tournament. I don't know if it was ever confirmed, but it was easy to come to that conclusion because cooller lost on dm6 - and he was pretty much untouchable there at the time. Anyone know if cooller ever admitted he lost on purpose? I can't remember now.

<< Comment #880 @ 22:42 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #878

ni3, ze canadian

<< Comment #882 @ 01:19 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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aaaaaat - Reply to #878

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Edited by ubr at 15:15 CDT, 8 June 2022

5%

<< Comment #905 @ 06:42 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #882

that the one when cooler was wating at rl and then as nie went up the pad he just ducked and stopped shooting?

<< Comment #932 @ 11:34 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #905

cooller was on the mid level after dropping down from ya. he kind of watched, ducked, and didn't really move as ni3 was up by rl railing him.

<< Comment #883 @ 02:03 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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ted - Reply to #878

would of been funny if ni3 just \killed a bunch of times right before the end

agagaga

<< Comment #890 @ 04:45 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #878

Nope, he didn't. Though it's pretty obvious, imo, if you watch the demo and know what was the real cooller on dm6 that time. "Pretty much untouchable" suits very well:) By the way it costed enormous efforts for the head of the russian delegation to prove that cooller didn't loose on purpose and to get him not disqualified from the tourney. If I'm not mistaken there was one rumor that cooller didn't let z4 out of the group cause he (z4) was going to meet b100.death one or two rounds latter in the upper bracket...

<< Comment #909 @ 07:47 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #869

ZeRo4 was biting cooller's heel (the way professional players usually deal their problems, in the professional way, of course). but cooller spanked ZeRo4, first. it's not very clear who's fault was. at a guess, it might be WCG (you find all story in History After Judas, anyway- chapter "forgive those which put their rocket launcher into temptation" )

<< Comment #910 @ 07:48 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #909

or was it lightning gun? can't recall it well. it was all happening on shitty monitors

<< Comment #894 @ 05:16 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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funkeh

I'm guessing tons of postive reviews, i'view's, colums, articles and blogs will spawn from Carmac just to prove I was wrong.

Here I am on my kness, head bowed to you, so do what you have to do, I had it coming!

<< Comment #895 @ 05:17 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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funkeh - Reply to #894

But please oh please link them all on esr so that my lazy ass doesn't have to search them, thanks.

<< Comment #904 @ 06:31 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Jibal1ty

-><-

<< Comment #907 @ 07:40 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

again?? oh, it's an edit. sorry :P

<< Comment #917 @ 08:52 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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enzo

any Vod's up yet?

:'(

<< Comment #927 @ 10:26 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

if someone make a video

please make a scene with jibo dodging grenades!

<< Comment #934 @ 12:19 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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sinoXy

In terms of spectating.

1. Zero4
2. Cooller
3. Toxic
4. Z4muZ
5. Cypher

In terms of skill. (duel only)

1.Cooller
2. Zero4
3. Cypher
4. Fatal1ty
5. LeXeR

Edited by sinoXy at 12:21 CDT, 28 August 2008

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #934

in terms of spectating
1.prozac
2.prozac
3.prozac
4.cooller
5.stelam
6.kane
7.zero4
8.czm

toxic at least on tdm is hirrible to watch just some aim bot rushing ...
prozac tdm demos were $$$ especially the eurocup3

Edited by stelamfanboy at 12:40 CDT, 28 August 2008

<< Comment #939 @ 13:00 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #935

1.Daler

4%

<< Comment #940 @ 13:24 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #939

0.5 Jenna Jameson. Works the shaft pretty good.

7%

<< Comment #942 @ 13:51 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #940

hahaha

<< Comment #1001 @ 05:47 CDT, 9 September 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #940

the model proportions look all fake though

<< Comment #949 @ 16:26 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #934

Just came up with an idea of postig the same rating:) My top favourite styles is:
1. Enemy
2. Cooller
3. Zero4
4. Cypher
5. Lexer/Z4muz

Edited by Deimos at 16:27 CDT, 28 August 2008

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phz - Reply to #934

Don't know about ranking people, but some of players I like to watch because I find their styles interesting...

cooller - don't need an explanation :P

stelam - Awesome timing and control. One of the first players I saw who would consistently try to lock down rail (and sometimes rl) on the map. His matches vs python and blokey from a early wcg are worth checking out, so methodical.

unkind - Those rockets... bouncing people all over the place. Plus his twitchy mouse sense is just crazy to watch.

z4 - pt4 mastery

cypher - Aiming and movement at its finest

fooki - Clever play, ambushes, seems to know how to play in all situations so well. Learnt a few subtle tricks watching him.

Edited by phz at 21:09 CDT, 28 August 2008

6%

<< Comment #959 @ 06:52 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #952

nice1 =)

<< Comment #962 @ 08:32 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #952

you wanted that plus didnt you..

<< Comment #963 @ 09:08 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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phz - Reply to #962

Haha :)

Now I only need to harvest my pluses from coollerfanboy, unkindfanboy, fookifanboy, z4fanboy and cypherfanboy.... Then my quest for internet popularity will be complete :P

<< Comment #972 @ 15:29 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #952

Fuck Karl and his pummel!!!1

Edited by Jamerio at 15:30 CDT, 29 August 2008

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Adel - Reply to #934

Spec:
1.Toxjq

Skill:
1.Toxjq

:)

Edited by LkI3 at 16:31 CDT, 3 September 2008

<< Comment #945 @ 15:05 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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v1ze

championshipism.

<< Comment #951 @ 18:45 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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koji

way2go rapha!!

<< Comment #955 @ 04:50 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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Carpio

Anybody has the Coller vs Zero4 hub game? Can not find it anywhere. :(((((

<< Comment #958 @ 06:49 CDT, 29 August 2008 >>

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R4ynoR

:D

<< Comment #981 @ 17:05 CDT, 30 August 2008 >>

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eMbAh

no cypher interview?

<< Comment #982 @ 20:07 CDT, 30 August 2008 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

Yay America.

Patriotism is as lame as school-spirit. God bless America... out of the entire Universe, God only blesses one country, on one planet, in one solar-system. In fact, the Bible clearly states you all must love the United States (the only place with legitimate faith).

I missed the whole tournament. Luckily, in the world of pro-gaming, missing the one tournament per-year doesn't mean starvation.

<< Comment #994 @ 03:52 CDT, 3 September 2008 >>

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xou - Reply to #982

"They" only praise the god of USA, failed monotheists!

<< Comment #987 @ 09:07 CDT, 1 September 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

990

<< Comment #989 @ 01:17 CDT, 2 September 2008 >>

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