wow
make some screenshots of the models pls :d

I agree, we need to see pics

I guess I'll re-install my Quake 4 and see how this thing works out. Why do I see myself still going back and playing Quake 3 though?

But hey, if it fixes a lot of crap in Quake 4, it's worth a shot, right?

Sounds very nice.

Resurrect, didn't get the confirmation they were dead. O well, how long will all this stuff take.

well if you look at the last news it is over a year that has gone by, and a full patch which made the latest version of the mod unplayable, so as nobody played it, it was at least in frozen stasis.

nice news for the q4 community!

Awesome news, I'll really be looking forward it =) Good luck guys ! ;)

TTK-Bandit has got to be one of the hardest working guys in quake.

In addition, please fix the SMP issue that some of us have when loading a map or watching a demo.
And some multiplayer bots will be nice :P

as said often by anthonyj, smp issues can not be fixed by mods.
we have multiplayer bots working, an enhanced version of the sabot, completely ported all script stuff to c++.
they can jump to move faster and are more challenging than the normal sabot, but due to the conversion they have a few issues I need to fix before I can call them stable.

nice :D

definately looking forward to this .)

Will it have bots?

yes

nice, i would haven liked to some more of the new stuff in the video though.

it is only a teaser, not a trailer.
I don't want give out all goodies at one evening ;-)

this is all pretty cool, but in the video the model sounds are ripped directly from quake3 (major jump sound, visor death sound). There could be a problem here (ala that one xbattle release).

true

even though the plan is (as soon as we get an audio artist again) to create completely new sounds, there will be no problem here.
We used a few sounds from the q3a demo, but that is ok, I asked for permission and they won't make a big fuzz about it if we use a few demo sounds.

Great news! Respect TTK-Bandit!

quick change ur logo back to q4!

a bit late for a dead game.

we have a proverb for this in germany:
"totgesagte leben länger"

wow, the first negative comment, I expected way more "Quake 4 is dead" posts, but this is actually pretty good feedback so far.
I have to agree on the late part though and I'm sorry, but working all alone on such a big mod is a little much for one person.
after all q4max has a big development team, while on GTR is basically only me who is continuously working on the mod.
( There are of course a couple of free helpers who helped me out with resources, and I'm grateful for that :-) )

i'm not judging your mod, seems pretty nice tbh.
but noone can't save q4 now.

this looks great, good bye q4max!

it is good to see someone still working on q4. q4max also seems to be inactive, no new posts about the mod.

i watched the trailer and - did i hear right? was there the sound of the major model from q3?
some new modelsounds would be nice, but look at the copyright before you take some sound - this can cause you some serious problems (as there was with xbm with the tankjr sounds)

Far from inactive - there's a rather significant update coming, as has been noticed already in the forums.

BTW bandit, we dont have a huge team either. *waves to hemo*

*waves to aj*

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well, since the last release 4 months have passed and due to the fact that i don't read your forums too often i didn'nt notice that a new version is comming.

I meant the ESR forums - http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1461549

Wow looks excellent !
i hope it comes out soon :P

join #GT-revolution @ quakenet
there's nearly nobody there :s

A big [+] for this one:

- Q3 style footsteps, no ugly footsteps when strafing left/right.

This is one of the major problems why I really CAN'T play Q4. At last someone realized it. [+] [+] [+]

YESSSSS !

hmmmm
makes me wanna play quake again :P

"Improved unlagged code to work together with si_fps"

what i've been waiting for all this time

good bye nasty hitscans!

hopefully gonna be playable for 50+ ping (rail ftw)

to create the 2 ingame fight scenes in the movie, I created a server on my lousy home connection, and suffer1ng joined, I didn't check what his ping was, but probably more than 60, and he owned me all the time, even though I had ping 0.
unlagged works perfect if you disable q4 clientside prediction (the net_clientprediction is in conflict with unlagged they follow different ways)
in gtr you can set a maximum ping to unlag and the maximum I have allowed currently is 120(80 by default), although the hit detection would work with ping 200 too, the movement is pretty bad then and it would be damn ugly to play like this.

Is this the first game or mod which implements unlagged technique?

no, unlagged has been used in a few quake3 mods too, and probably the best known use of it is counterstrike, it would not be half as successful if there would not be unlagged code in cs.

true, that's for sure

but the "unlag" code in CS is actually from Valve, works to the HL franchise and all mods I guess...

"if you disable q4 clientside prediction"

how do you do that

set net_clientprediction 0
though then its not completely disabled, but it is reduced enough to work with unlagged.

@51 no idea who wrote it, but your probably right, I dont care anyway..
the unlagged code for gtr is my work, no copy&paste action.

Yep, i had 50-65 ping when playing on his server and i did hit more rails than when playing with q4max and ~25 ping or q4max and ~25 and net_clientprediction turned on 4.
unlagged roxx!

i'm talking about q4max hitscans,,

and my point is that i rly hope this will be used more than q4
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put the slide ON and GOGOGOGOOOOOOOOOOOOO

awsome news

sweet can't wait to try it out

yes, but... now my pants are wet :\

Seriously, glad to see a good mod-team working on q4
finaly, q4max team got another competitor :)

Awesome, I had almost given up. Thank you!

love the speed..

just a note, as a lot of people asked me about it:
crouchsliding is not disabled currently.
I might disable it in the gtx mode, as aircontrol + crouchsliding might be too much, but in gtr mode it will stay enabled.

I'm currently imagining vo0 vs av3k with aircontrol + crouchsliding and it's making me randy.

finally some sorta q4 cpmery

cannot see "pro-moders" choosing q4gtx before q3cpm, what does q4gtx offer that q3cpm do not have? crouchslide is basicly useless with promode aircontrol

gtx is not exactly cpm movement, it has some improvements, and it also has the offhand swinging grappling hook to enable even more trickjumps and fast speedups.

@46:
You can say what you want, but excessiveplus is the most active quake3 community atm (on public servers).
a lot of people play it actively and it is really fun, just hop on an e+ server, most of the servers with good ping you find in your quake3 serverbrowsers are probably e+, just try it, you don't even need to download anything, as it works as a serverside mod..

Hook like in Q2 Lithium then ?

don't know that mod, do you know quake3 corkscrew ?
dunno how to describe it, its kinda like tarzan or spiderman movement.

You dont know Lithium? Shame on you ;)

It has an offhand hook, which graphically looked like a laser beam that shoots out (it was a server-side mod so existing models only ;)).

The physics of it is pretty much standard grapple stuff - pulls the player towards destination - no swing physics etc.

honestly, quake2 was so perfect I never thought about getting mods for it.
I could play hours and hours of quake2 the edge and not get tired :D

yea that game rocked together with lmctf I played both mods in q2 I loved the mines a granade that had laser beams... I would drop them by the flag or entrances.

"how shoot red rope?!" :P

That was my question when I joined my first ever Quake2 server back in '98, "how do i shoot the red beam". Then people told me that it was +hook, and I typed +hook in chat, before typing +hook in console. I then wondered how the beam would go away. When someone told me it was -hook, I wondered how people would type +hook and then -hook so quick...
Ahhh, the good times :)

but uhm being very proud of excessive is kinda lol.. no one really plays that seriously, why not just focus on the main mod instead/

I think I wet my self.

I gotta remember to hand out diapers with the mod.

I wana play Q4 excessive.

Hows framerates with it?

we did not make massive online tests yet, but you probably need a machine that can handle 62fps stable..
although I am thinking of raising si_fps for xsv to something higher, since the movement is a lot faster it could be better.. we have to test and see.
the weapon effects don't drop your fps much more than the normal weapon effects, so its all just about physics and netcode.

I mean, if you have 40+ rockets on screen... + exploding LG, and tones of grenades and a shitload of rail trails.... (as is common with excesive)

yeah, well as said, we did no massive online tests yet, but with bots it was pretty playable, although I had to disable the rail on the bot, as it was just too hard for me to die every 2 seconds ^^.

Is viewheight same as vanilla Q4 or is it lowered? And if it is lowered, have you changed the height of the hitboxes accordingly?

Why do you wanna change the viewheight?

depends on the gamemode, currently in all modes, except baseq4, the viewheight is lowered, and yes the hitboxes are adjusted to the new viewheight.

@mnem1c:
because with lower viewheight you can move better (at least if your used to q3 movement), and it feels faster.
rocketjumping works better too, cuz the rockets spawn based on the viewheight..
also by lowering the viewheight and adjusting the projectilespawn offset a little, I was able to fix the ugly "rocket is flying out of your eyes" effect.

Whoa! Then Quake4 is really going to be resurrected!
I think this is a very important change. Why didn't you mention it in your changelog?

cuz this is nothing new, it has been in gtr since the first versions.

that sounds so fucking awesome :D
i am really looking forward to your mod even it properly won't be a competition mod but there isn't any competition anyway :P

btw.. the word is 'coming', not 'comming'

gaaah, does everyone have to tell me this XD
yeah, I noticed, kinda too late though.. I dunno why I always write comming, I somehow got used to it, but I'll try to get rid of that bad habbit.

please dont have a million qw/cpm gametypes available again.. just make one cpm gametype and if you wont remove the offhand hook, please make it callvotable.

sorry, but game modes will always be voteable.
if you want to, you can disable this particular vote and only allow one gamemode.
and if you want a cpm mode without grapple, you can create one yourself, but you should try the grapple first, cuz it is really fun and makes gtx something new.
I don't like creating exact clones of old games, they have to be improved when redoing them.

trust me, cpm is close to perfect, and a 'real' fast/action packed FPS (like qw/cpm) doesnt need a hook to work.. but as long as its callvotable, it doesnt really matter i guess

Try writing cumming.

damn that teaser and the notes are looking nice :)
really really looking forward to it and will betatest if you need more people :)

Anyone recognize the song used during the gameplay footage in the teaser?

I do recognize it since i made the teaser... ^^

@ Bandit
I would have expected more quake 4 is dead whines, too :) maybe q4 is really gonna be resurrected

@ Topic
Long live GTR and TTK-Bandit!!!! <3

:o

omg title plx cockteaser

farkinsweetdude!!!!! well done bandit, some healthy competition for q4max is going to be good for Q4. The movement looks so fun and fast like the "scout" power-up.

bandit 4 president!

maybe there won't be a need of q0 anymore because your mod fullfil the lacks of q4

this is cool and all.. but the main problem with q4 still remains its fps cap and the need to have a framerate steady egal or > to tickrate to avoid "lag"

btw, goatse logo

yeah, well sorry, thats not under my control.
but gtr runs a little smoother than q4max 0.78 and a lot smoother than baseq4, so you should give it a chance, if you still have q4 somewhere.

I loled at the Goatse revelation :)

90fps is not high enough?

it is (for me, since my average crt do 85hz)
but not all mods/servers are set to si_fps 90, and not everyone have a pc which can handle a steady 90 fps framerate

ah. Duel defaults to 90fps. Some have it set as high as 125 (like killat0n, for example)

Only FFA, etc use the 60fps cap.

And my CRT does 144hz at 800x600 (technically it does higher, but that's what I have it set at) Multisync NEC fe992

c2d e6600 oc'ed to 3.5ghz. 2GB ddr2 800mhz. 8800gt
You get the picture.

My point was actually the 90fps duel default though.
Of course, I get 2000fps average in quakeworld (highest I've seen mine get to is 4250fps)

Of course, I get 2000fps average in quakeworld (highest I've seen mine get to is 4250fps)

Which of course is completely artificial, because like all quake games, qw measures time in miliseconds, and so the highest possible resolution is 1000fps.

oh. I was just going by the fps meter in the top corner. I didn't mean to imply that i could tell any kind of difference between 2000-4000 fps.
And there are 100 milliseconds in a second, not 1k, so I'm not sure what you meant by that part.

edit: so, if it's measured in milliseconds, and no smaller intervals, then 100fps would be the maximum. And that can't be right.
(yeah, I realize you're the q4max guy, but I still don't think that milliseconds are the smallest measurement as that would cause a 100fps cap.)

No, there are 1000 milliseconds in a second.

Edit: Just had another poke at the q1 source for the first time in ages, and I see its not quite the same as q2-q4, due to the way it uses float for everything. Still pretty sure its ultimately only accurate to 1ms (less in netquake, by the look of it)

well shit. what're those numbers called at the end of my stopwatch then?
There's minute, second, then something else that only goes to 99.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/54/digitalstopwatchan1.jpg

Generally people call them "hundredths of a second", although the official SI term is Centisecond.

For more useful prefixes (micro, nano etc), just check wikipedia

I hope this will be somewhat better then the current stuff from Q4 because especially for beginners (getting started) Q4 is a pain in the ass imo

you will love the new menu, it has so many options all listed up very nicely, it should be easy to get in for beginners and there are enough options to satisfy all the needs of a quake pro.
it has been rewritten completely and I have written myself a php parser to create the gui files, which makes creating the menu very easy, you don't have to clone so many lines and keep them all up to date when changing only a simple thing on the design.
this way I was able to create a nice looking menu with lots of settings and quick infos, without spending hours on a single page.
the hud files are also created using this parser, this way I was able to create the osp q4 and cpma huds in only one day.

Neat! :D

is this going to work on a mac?

well.. I would love to add mac support, but I don't own a mac.
If you know a mac coder, we may be able to make it mac compatible.
currently we support linux and windows only.

Wehey for unlagged. Time to see how good some people really are. The ones who aren't going to cry and scream about how shitty unlagged code is and how much fairer their 1 vs 60 ping advantage is, atleast.

GTX (GameType eXtreme), a new gamemode with cpm like movement

Would be great.. oh wait, q4 dosent run on my comp :(
cpma<3

looks like q3cpm , especially the movement.

omg finally. I waited 1 one year JUST for this SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

looks nice, nice work bandit.

The Ultimate Rumors Machine

rofl @ excessive

other things sound nice though

here is quick example video what the grapple is like.. nothing special:
http://gtr.quakedev.com/grapple.avi

There are a lot of tricks possible with this hook (it is offhand as you can see).

The grapple looks sweet....

but... it should be in it for the default game play, defiantly should be a votable option instead of default.

Looks awesome. Does it reel in automatically though? Make it so that jump reels it in and crouch reels it out, that way you've got total control over it for even better tricks!

looks promising, even i might break up the ol' dvd box for this one

i relly hope theres someone that will make this work on mac since q4max aint working after 0.77.
it looks awsome great job bandit

q4max 0.80 will work fine on a mac.

We didnt release .78* for the mac as there was no mac 1.4.x releases at the time (mac never got 1.4.0 or 1.4.1, and aspyr were very slow releasing 1.4.2).

why on earth was ID not able to fullfil our wishes as gtr is attempting to??? >:(
was it still too much work for a whole team? gtr is developed by one person... tkk-bandit <3

ill try that thanks

how come when I try to create a server I get an error when I try to change the gametype. like I can't try the new movment, cause it says I do not have the server config for it. is this something I have to create?

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Mod isn't out for 1.4.2.

Or are you trying an old version on a old q4 patch?

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Any chance to have bots with GTR? :)

The mod looks amazing, hopefully it will help the Q4 community :)

Check the 11th post. ;)

For some reason I can't see the first page's comments :(

Can you paste me what they said about bots please? :\

Sure.

"we have multiplayer bots working, an enhanced version of the sabot, completely ported all script stuff to c++.
they can jump to move faster and are more challenging than the normal sabot, but due to the conversion they have a few issues I need to fix before I can call them stable."


Do this to fix your comments:

"For users having issues with comments not showing on posts with more than 72 comments please edit your preferences and change "Comments" to "All on one page" rather than 50/100/200 as they don't seem to be working at the moment.

Sujoy is aware of the problem and the error will be fixed as soon as possible."

Thanks a million dude =)!

YAY BOTS!

Any news?

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Watching the trailer after 10 years makes me laugh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNrRsjzxB5U

Same story right now with QC :>. We nedd GTR back!!

... oh wait, there is no mod support :<