ESR - Quake 4 1.4 Beta Released

<< Comment #1 @ 17:06 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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geow

#1 WOOOHOOO , FAKE ! where is the download button :<

Edited by geo at 17:07 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #136 @ 19:08 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #1

All this time and still beta, wonder what they were doing all this time. Hopefully this beta is only a fraction of full version, but somehow I doubt it.

Edited by Troll at 19:42 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #222 @ 21:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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nahraq - Reply to #136

This, a fraction? What do you expect them to put on the full version, strippers?

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<< Comment #246 @ 22:15 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #222

Considering id software made this engine, you'd expect something more. No feature requests or suprises, known bugs not fixed (some of which q4max had already fixed). Wheres the most important part of a multiplayer game, the netcode, it still sucks and is worse than Q3's. Talking about Q3, everything in this patch has been in Q3, glad they finally added them, but lets not get too estatic at 5 year old basic features.. like working sound and http download.

Everything in this patch is great, but lets face it, alot of things are still wrong. 18 months on and Q4 is still not fixed to an acceptable standard. If I bought this 18 months ago, I'd be dissapointed and would have felt ripped off having bought an unfinished game. id software are coming close to getting out of beta, but theres still a way to go. As for turning Q4 around into a successful game, at this speed and effort, I think its crystal clear now, its nots going to happen

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<< Comment #252 @ 22:32 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #246

Q3 still does not have http download. Q3's rail is not balanced. Q3 does not have a consistent shotgun spread. Q3 does not have cylindrical hitboxes. Q4's new default sound... is better than Q3's. You cannot filter your Q3 serverbrowser by mod. You can not find GTV servers listed in Q3's server browser. Quite honestly even amongst the whiners your voice is fading because you're failing to make accurate arguments.

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<< Comment #257 @ 22:44 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #252

Is there any info regarding the configurable FPS cap?
What commands to use etc?

<< Comment #325 @ 01:13 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #257

si_fps is the only command you need.. the server has to set it and all clients are forced to have that as their maxfps.

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<< Comment #631 @ 09:13 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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jal - Reply to #325

Was Q3 gtv made by iD? I didn't know that.

<< Comment #641 @ 09:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #631

why are you replying to that post and asking me this? honestly i don't know if id made gtv but I don't think they did

<< Comment #928 @ 16:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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jal - Reply to #641

Wasn't to you, but to the Troll. If i reply to his post it would be dropped too much. This was the first good spot I found :)

<< Comment #851 @ 13:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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FLAcK - Reply to #325

Then why last night when I was playing on a 125fps server, did my fps still max out at 63?

<< Comment #863 @ 13:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Bozo - Reply to #851

Its vsync synced to your monitors hz so if you run at 60 hz w/ vsync you will only get 60 fps. turn of vsync.

<< Comment #955 @ 17:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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FLAcK - Reply to #863

Except the fact is that I run my monitor at 100 hz.

<< Comment #1195 @ 16:02 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #955

double check it, sometimes it resets to lowest when the resolution changes from application to application. I guess I'm gonna try to run my desktop and games at the same res, which sucks because I play at 800x600 at 115 fov in game, but my desktop is either in 1600x1200 or 1280x1024

<< Comment #262 @ 22:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #252

It's "Balanced" is it?

Sorry but just claiming it's balanced is silly and totally subjective. The more consistent SG spread is nice but why no just go the full way?

We could always list the features Q3 has and Q4 doesn't like say, non-giant rockets/grenades, or (Unless I'm mistaken but pretty sure I'm not as I haven't seen it in any patch change log to date) dead player models "flying" to the next spawn point? How about better performance and netcode too? etc. etc.

<< Comment #285 @ 23:27 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #262

The shotgun spread is all but non-random. What it does is it delivers a set pattern and then slightly wiggles each pellet only a few units in any direction, causing it to deliver a predictable consistent pattern -- but one that looks natural somewhat what you might expect from a shotgun.

In other words, the variation that you see is primarily a pleasant visual novelty. But the spread it self is dependable. Its basically a comp spread but prettier.

<< Comment #324 @ 01:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #285

sniff whine bu��... i want the random pellets back... So far beta patch looks very good, but the shotgun with a consistent spread. :( makes the fun of that weapon go away... IMO

<< Comment #448 @ 05:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #324

Go have a nice, relaxing game of dice.

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<< Comment #460 @ 05:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #285

i think its perfect now
didnt like it as it was before, but also never really enjoyed the q3 cpma shotgun spread, this is a great compromise

<< Comment #643 @ 09:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #460

i agree :D

<< Comment #268 @ 23:01 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #252

So you're assuming Q4's rail is balanced based on a mere 10 dmg decrease ? I think you're assuming a lot. :)
One of railgun's main problems is its awful knockback, and it's still here. And AFAIK 63% of ESR's users have voted for 80 dmg (39%), 75 dmg or lower... Which quite surprised me considering how conservative people can get when it comes to RG.
I'll be waiting for 1.4 games to see if RG is indeed balanced now, but I strongly doubt it. To me it's merely a cosmetic change.

About the netcode tweaks, I haven't tested those so I'll keep quiet about that, hoping it is indeed better.

About the SG consistant spread, it's great. Glad you did it. The rest is a matter of details.. Even with http download I can't imagine what hassle it must be to find a fair server for a Clanbase game with all the newbie server admins around dropping random maps on their servers, forgetting older versions, and so on. Oh and players who don't play that often and don't have all maps and/or all versions of them in their Q4 folder.

Oh and last but not least, that 125 tickrate thing, am I mistaken or is it similar to setting Q3's sv_fps to 125 ? Because if it this is right, I'm not sure it's a good thing.
I tried Q3 with sv_fps 120 on LAN and we used to get silly accuracies with that setting, especially with MG/LG (and for obvious reasons).

Edited by sansai at 23:21 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #282 @ 23:22 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #268

No not at all. The 10 dmg decrease is the least of the adjustments.

<< Comment #352 @ 02:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #282

You mean the start ammo thing ? It sure is better this way but in the end it will still be about who controls the RG ammo boxes, I thought it was about putting railgun on even ground with other weapons.
And after all, 5 ammos with 60% RG is still worth 270 dmg.

Edited by sansai at 02:36 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #370 @ 03:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #352

its always about control, buddy.

i played a bit and have to admit that reducing the rail slugs is more effective than 90 dmg (but i played new maps... so dont know the campspots

<< Comment #389 @ 03:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #370

It sure is about control, this is DM. I know it. :)
Thing is, it's about making railgun less of an overpowered weapon. I don't think those tweaks cut it.
Firstly because making it so players have to control ammo boxes doesn't make it any less of an overpowered weapon, it just means players will have to behave differently to stack ammos and start abusing it.
Secondly because, even if they don't do that, most decent players will still achieve a great deal of damage with 5 ammos. 3 shots do the trick, even with 90 dmg a shot, and that's just what most aim whores hit these days in decent conditions - 60% RG, that's nothing uncommon.

Edited by sansai at 03:38 CST, 8 February 2007

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morbyte - Reply to #389

but hes dealing 30 dmg less in 3 shots so the target has more time to look for health or switch to appropriate counter tactics :)

and rail whores are forced to move around much more

Edited by morbyte at 04:17 CST, 8 February 2007

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becks - Reply to #389

so then it is something you have to control, I don't see why that has to bad thing. After all that mega and the red armor are so overpowered, they let you survive at least one more rail!

Of course weapon and ammo placement on some maps helps the player in control a bit more but that could be tweaked I suppose.

<< Comment #291 @ 23:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Zanno - Reply to #268

lowering the damage does lower the knockback though

<< Comment #350 @ 02:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #291

so knockback is directly linked to damage ? Didn't know that tbh. :)

<< Comment #531 @ 06:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Zanno - Reply to #350

what you have never picked up a quad damage before

<< Comment #577 @ 07:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #531

I had quad once, but I missed all shots :(

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<< Comment #610 @ 08:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #531

I just noticed with this patch people might actually survive one quaded rail, not likely but still

<< Comment #721 @ 10:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #531

thought there was a multiplier for knockback aswell as damages.

Edited by sansai at 10:57 CST, 8 February 2007

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26671 - Reply to #531

Doesn't that just triple the normal knockback?

Edited by advent� at 21:33 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #450 @ 05:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c-24-20-156-51.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) - Reply to #268

Go try to get 60 % rail with the new hitboxes and 125 FPS. We are not talking about 90 damage in 1.3

<< Comment #1035 @ 21:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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26671 - Reply to #450

I have to say that lowering the damage is quite trivial and, thus, pointless imo -- only a 10dmg difference? That reduction won't make spawn raping with rail any harder nor will it have any blatant effects in matches. You could lower it to 80dmg and see a difference, but then that would just make the game so heavily rocket-dominant that it'd be dumb.

Plus it's even more pointless with the second change of reducing ammo to 5 -- that one idea alone achieves the purpose of changing the rail's properties, so why reduce the damage as well, let alone by such a small difference? In short, raise the damage back to 100dmg or raise the ammo capacity back to 10 'cause the game didn't need a total revamp of the railgun in spite of what some people believe.

<< Comment #1036 @ 21:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #1035

lol, advent the railwhore

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<< Comment #1037 @ 21:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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26671 - Reply to #1036

The only people I've heard say that about me are the ones who hear about it from others or the ones who give me easy shots. :)

<< Comment #339 @ 01:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #252

what are the changes on "Q4's new default sound"?

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rep - Reply to #339

an amazing new feature that makes you hear stuff infront of you as if it was behind you, and do you remember the time when left meant left? i don't! nowadays left means right!!!!! amazing stuff..

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xgo - Reply to #1377

ammm i think YOU wanted to say q3 sound > q4 sound :))
i agree

Edited by xgo at 01:44 CST, 18 February 2007

<< Comment #1379 @ 18:22 CST, 19 February 2007 >>

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rep - Reply to #1378

no doubt, i dont think i've ever played an fps with worse positional sound than q4.. i actually think even czm's ultrono arena was better in that aspect :))

<< Comment #399 @ 03:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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way2ez4gtv - Reply to #252

Q4's new default

made me lol

<< Comment #479 @ 05:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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User1067 - Reply to #252

I guess I shouldn't be telling you how to do your job, but it does not look very professional when you get provocated and start pin pointing 'flaws' in games that company you work for has made. Just stick to telling us what is good in Q4.

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SyncError - Reply to #479

They're not flaws. Many of those issues were the way they were due to limitations at the time. The original Wolf3D isn't flawed cause it doesn't support bump mapping, its simply an older game.

Edited by SyncError at 05:46 CST, 8 February 2007

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #480

I would ignore comments like that... wait it's your job :D

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SyncError - Reply to #579

Actually.. no its not. Its not my job to answer any questions.

I only do that because I care and think that its benefitial.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #720

See, your job is to care and be beneficiary!

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #779

i sliped =\

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babyBeelz - Reply to #781

Sliped is a funny word.

(slipped is the proper spelling)

But anyway, say sliped out loud. It sounds really funny.

look at these nubs sliping all over the place

<< Comment #583 @ 07:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #252

Winner.

<< Comment #611 @ 08:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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seever - Reply to #252

then again, we have cpma :-)

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Streetrunner - Reply to #252

INdeed. Just don't waste our time saying how your Q3 is great, go play it and say nothing. And the game has only been out 15 months thanks. And the netcode is more then fine, dont play with over 80 ping, and lan is always diff.

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26671 - Reply to #252

Should've just gotten rid of default sound altogether and used xgo's soundpack instead (or made it optional for FFA, etc.) 'cause the lack of positional sound is horriiiiiiiiiiiid.

Edited by advent� at 21:31 CST, 8 February 2007

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #252

I think it's a pretty safe argument to say that q3's better.

<< Comment #254 @ 22:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #246

i seriously dont know what you're getting at.

<< Comment #557 @ 07:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #254

What I'm getting at is... theres no point in playing a game with a dwarf community in steady decline. Since its highly unlikely there will be another patch, at least not for a year, this was id's last chance to give this game some success for the next year. Everything in 1.4 is great, but considering the state in which the game was released and it being left to rot for over a year, you'd expect much much more. Even if id done enough to make this game like it should have been on release, it would have been the least they could have done to have a successful patch. I'm sorry to say but 1.4 signals the death of Q4. Sure everyones buzzed about the changes atm and the changes will keep some players happy for the next few months, but thats it for Q4.

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wata - Reply to #557

what do you expected from iD then ? free cocaine and whores at your house ?

ba.. you're a troll, nevermind.

<< Comment #702 @ 10:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #563

I would expect id software to have effort to make this into a successful game, but their effort is poor. Sure its an excellent time when someone releases more than 5 decent fixes to Q4 at once. But look at the big picture, what happened before the patch and what will happen after, then you realise this patch is a disgrace, because thats all id software has got to give and Q4 will always remain sub-standard.

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wata - Reply to #702

blablablalalablablablabla
blabla
balabalalbablablaa

whiner

<< Comment #724 @ 10:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #715

The fact that Q4 can't even make gamespys top 20 player count, proves I'm correct.

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nahraq - Reply to #724

Sure. It also proves that CS is the best game in the universe.

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<< Comment #902 @ 15:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #850

Fact: Cs is a terrible game.

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MarzenGold - Reply to #850

no, its playable and user friendly.

<< Comment #1196 @ 16:08 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1082

noob friendly. the higher the learning curve, the less noobs want to hop in and get slaughtered. I play CS:S after I get pwned in a good game like warsow or q3 or q4 and want to get a thousand easy kills from camping.
=P

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GeNeTiKs - Reply to #1196

Stop playing a pub cs:s game then and hop onto a decent pickup in 1.6. Its more about the players who play the game and not the game itself, there are more hardcore players playing warsow and q3 so are obviously a lot better standard than the casual cs:s player who just likes to play for a bit of fun. If you played on a q3 server with a bunch of casual players you would still own them. Try and find the hardcore cs players and come back and tell us again how well you faired.

<< Comment #1240 @ 04:18 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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qwertytrewq - Reply to #1082

Exactly. I never understand so much people here dislike cs. It's one of the better multiplayer games tbh. Ofcourse new players wont start with q4. It's a horrible game to start with. And the game feels sloppy with that horrible doom 3 engine.

Edited by mark at 04:19 CST, 10 February 2007

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Nordicus - Reply to #724

Gamespy stats isn't very accurate..they miss alot of games.

<< Comment #1015 @ 19:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zzhro^ - Reply to #702

stfu and go back to q3 :)

<< Comment #1091 @ 04:45 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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|nFin1teFX| - Reply to #702

go play pacman...attention seeker

<< Comment #612 @ 08:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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nahraq - Reply to #557

I'm still waiting for you to tell what this "much more" could be. Do you want them to pack a community with 100,000 players for you on the patch?

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<< Comment #613 @ 08:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #557

cuold you get a little more specific, cause iirc before this release you complained about all the stuff that you thought wouldn't be in this patch, now it is in and you are still complaing, except now you don't even have a really points excluding the very helpful "several old bugs" and "movement feels wrong" and "netcode is still bad".

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Troll - Reply to #613

lies

<< Comment #534 @ 06:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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falcuma - Reply to #246

YOU are such a moron.

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<< Comment #920 @ 16:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ichigo - Reply to #246

Q3 didn't come to be what is today in less than 18 months FYI.... and [ - ]

<< Comment #925 @ 16:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #920

Things evolve, no game can be shit for 2 years and still be a success, not anymore, way too much competition.

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MarzenGold - Reply to #920

Then again Q3 took a lot less time to develop, had a huge player base from the start, was actually fun and easy to 'get connected'. Never mind Q3 having a lot of great features out of the box that q4 does not even have. Q4 1.0 should have been Q3 1.32 + OSP 1.03 at the very least. Thats called progress. Or does id like to invent the same wheel over and over?

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1083

It's the downward spiral...the story of the angry q4 clique.

<< Comment #1144 @ 09:15 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #246

u got pretty pwned

<< Comment #326 @ 01:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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murph - Reply to #222

strippers plz.

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becks - Reply to #326

but then they shouls at least have the decency to make a toggle for male / female strippers ;D

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<< Comment #1103 @ 05:23 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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murph - Reply to #467

YES! LOL

<< Comment #803 @ 12:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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RiGHT - Reply to #136

if you'd know what you're talking about, then you'd know that id nearly always releases beta's. only 1 out of 5 (or so) releases is a full/official patch.
they do this coz of the pov of avoiding lawsuits and stuffs if the software actually breaks something. they do test these beta releases, but not extremely thourough. reason for that is that properly testing software costs a lot of time and with that a lot of money.
so they only do superficial testing, and then release it.
if your videocard burns out coz for some strange reason on your videocard the fps capping doesnt work well and then the refresh rate does something weird and suddenly your videocard overheats (hey.. this is not really realistic, but it *could* happen), then id can say that you should not have used the beta version, and they will not accept liability.

<< Comment #251 @ 22:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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astronaute - Reply to #1

still no sound fix for opengl I suppose....

<< Comment #255 @ 22:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #251

Actually yes, but not fully done yet.

<< Comment #1324 @ 00:38 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Thormam - Reply to #255

plz hurry. Allthough the release of 1.4 has some really great content it was still the openAL fix I was looking forward to the most. Allmost everytime I play a 20 min ctf match - the last 3-6 min is some really serious sound problems if not without any.

I could play without openAL until its fixed - but once youve tried openAL you dont wanna take a step backwards :)

<< Comment #594 @ 07:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #251

Accelerated sound on a GPU ? That's gotta be FAST ! ;)

<< Comment #2 @ 17:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji

and remember, this is a beta :)

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<< Comment #5 @ 17:09 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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rep - Reply to #2

i needs moar ram to remember that

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<< Comment #115 @ 18:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Fortress - Reply to #5

are you a kitten? :>

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ini - Reply to #115

How can he be a kitten if he's a reptile?

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fur*q - Reply to #127

He's a cat but has mange.

<< Comment #186 @ 20:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #115

dont worry, he's from tech support

<< Comment #9 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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_agu - Reply to #2

n1

<< Comment #239 @ 21:49 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tNaCarN - Reply to #2

Still not buying it to play a beta

<< Comment #245 @ 22:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #239

Awww you're breaking our hearts dude.

Across the world forums are being inundated with messages of sorrow.

Servers are dying at the thought of not processing your ip address.

And gamers are hanging up their mice becasue without you it's just not the same.

#care.

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<< Comment #303 @ 00:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tNaCarN - Reply to #245

Dont make me do the "[+] me if you think Jamerio is a Tard" again jam jam to proove my point.

Beta < no>

Edited by tNaCarN at 00:16 CST, 8 February 2007

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rzr - Reply to #303

tNaCarN <no>

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tNaCarN - Reply to #316

Dont get cut please, no burning.

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danny - Reply to #245

Servers are dying at the thought of not processing your ip address.

rofl!

<< Comment #1148 @ 09:18 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #340

good one that one ye

<< Comment #3 @ 17:08 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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zzhro^

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIH

<< Comment #4 @ 17:09 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss

LOL, OMFG I M SPRAYIN CUM EVERYWHERE

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<< Comment #6 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Megro - Reply to #4

[+]

<< Comment #121 @ 18:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #4

that kind of thing is becoming very common around here...

Edited by s0n1cm4yh3m at 18:56 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #165 @ 19:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #121

and it will be even more common at Q4TV :D

"OMG I'M SPRAYING CUM IN Q4 EVERYWHERE"

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<< Comment #244 @ 22:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #165

haha mad me giggle :D

<< Comment #7 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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falcuma

url!

Edited by falcuma at 17:12 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #8 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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HeJin

\o/

<< Comment #10 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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xou

So... if a player install this beta patch, will he be still able to join 1.3 servers?

Or will he have to reinstall Q4? :p

<< Comment #18 @ 17:15 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SimonR - Reply to #10

Therefore, players who update to 1.4 beta from ANY previous version will only be able to connect and play against other 1.4 beta users.

from syncs post

so NO you will only be able to connect and play 1.4 beta servers

<< Comment #449 @ 05:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #18

why? thats shit
any new patch in ut2k4 i can still play on servers with older patches

<< Comment #471 @ 05:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #449

well this isnt ut, thank goodness!

<< Comment #568 @ 07:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #449

I think a lot of the problem this time with 1.4 beta is that they seperated the whoooooole game into two. 1 MP and 1 SP part. The game is not what it was before :)

<< Comment #748 @ 11:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sansai - Reply to #449

Dird, you can't expect major changes and backward compatibility.

<< Comment #889 @ 15:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #748

i can expect wateva i wanna expect

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<< Comment #893 @ 15:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Euler - Reply to #889

haha :)

<< Comment #11 @ 17:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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NaAani

Might be a good idea to upload the files first and post news later ;D

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<< Comment #12 @ 17:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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meat man

refined hitboxes
optimized sound and network code
configurable fps caps
weapon balancing
server direct autodownloading
and addonpak fixes
We are especially excited to introduce our new spectator support to Quake 4 - Q4TV.

You forgot the kitchen sink.

PS: WOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo time to play Q4 again.

Edited by Mojo- at 17:12 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #55 @ 17:56 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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MassMan - Reply to #12

What do you mean by "again"? ;)

<< Comment #76 @ 18:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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meat man - Reply to #55

true, lol

<< Comment #13 @ 17:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError

Its called a heads up. =)

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<< Comment #15 @ 17:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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geow - Reply to #13

we love you sync!

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<< Comment #20 @ 17:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #13

You get no + untill you actualy upload some files ; )

<< Comment #132 @ 19:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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cK-nomadic - Reply to #13

sync i backed up q4 to my desktop, installed the beta patch there, now the game doesnt even run, all i get is error during initialization :(

<< Comment #140 @ 19:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #132

you're trying to run q4max.. delete +fs_game q4max

<< Comment #188 @ 20:28 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #132

n00b Evan <3

<< Comment #796 @ 12:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cK-nomadic - Reply to #188

neg, i had to copy/paste and replace everything from q4mp to the q4 folder, finally it worked.

<< Comment #14 @ 17:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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omizzle

yay

<< Comment #16 @ 17:13 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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erok

Is this a joke?! no d/l :(

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<< Comment #52 @ 17:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ani

:D woho

<< Comment #17 @ 17:14 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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GreenBastard

congrats Sync, this does sound half decent

i might give q4 another chance if this turns out good :)

<< Comment #24 @ 17:22 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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xou - Reply to #17

I'll give you another chance at minigulf!

<< Comment #19 @ 17:15 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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epiotic

readme doesn'r work either :( anyways JIPPIII this mean the release of the full patch is near :)

<< Comment #21 @ 17:18 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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erthx

where is the link??

<< Comment #22 @ 17:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fanfreluche

Fantabulous !
Gigancentic !

<< Comment #23 @ 17:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini

FUCKING SUCKS MEGA TOPS

<< Comment #25 @ 17:24 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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det5

Where is the link/patch notes?

<< Comment #26 @ 17:25 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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randomness666

giev even the readme ;(

<< Comment #27 @ 17:26 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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griffin`

woot

<< Comment #28 @ 17:27 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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puma_

Great news!

<< Comment #53 @ 17:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-71-72-175-216.woh.res.rr.com)

ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake4/win32...-1.4.0.exe

#q41v1 FTW LOLZ

<< Comment #29 @ 17:29 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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HeJin

Download is up

<< Comment #30 @ 17:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nukm

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

<< Comment #31 @ 17:31 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wata

ZOMG CHANGELOG
TOTAL WIN \o/

<< Comment #32 @ 17:31 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #31

Its just a quick overview.. not all the fixes.

<< Comment #40 @ 17:43 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #32

I'm gonna cry :')

MAN, YOUR DA MAN \o/

<< Comment #67 @ 18:04 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wakka - Reply to #32

cg_truelightning ? =DDD

anyways awesome job

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<< Comment #33 @ 17:32 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji

movement in rampstairs is a bit different with cylindrical boxes.. im guessing there'll be some whine regarding that. there's a command to revert back to square boxes though if people find it too horrible :P

<< Comment #73 @ 18:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ichigo - Reply to #33

so how much did you helped them in order to get this patch done RIGHT?

<< Comment #157 @ 19:34 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #33

I think it's cool as long as all ramps go downwards.

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<< Comment #332 @ 01:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #33

ye movement is random, a little better with AJs fix :P

<< Comment #34 @ 17:33 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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r4nger

where are all the other q4tv naysayers now :)

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<< Comment #54 @ 17:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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raphox

SyncError if i'll ever meet you I'll give you the biggest kiss :D the best news this year :)

<< Comment #35 @ 17:34 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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g0th

I am blown away by thoose changes.... Great work

<< Comment #36 @ 17:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Ukjsatiy

Sounds like a collection of nice additions, well done :-)

<< Comment #74 @ 18:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ALonDonThinG - Reply to #36

Now this man IS hard to plz =]

<< Comment #361 @ 02:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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oxi - Reply to #74

You just need to tick the right 'boxes' *cough* ;))

<< Comment #37 @ 17:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ufo

supernajs

anyone got a EU server up yet?

<< Comment #38 @ 17:38 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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g0th - Reply to #37

Yeah im gonna w8 all night if thats what it takes

<< Comment #39 @ 17:42 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nukm

changelog is so amazing...
definitely worth the wait, hopefully its jot a beta for long

<< Comment #41 @ 17:44 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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poindexter

[+]

<< Comment #42 @ 17:45 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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firebat

Very nice!

Is it possible to get some mirrors up?
Downloading a 230 mb file with 8 kb/s is no fun :(.

<< Comment #43 @ 17:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ufo - Reply to #42

use the torrent?

<< Comment #44 @ 17:47 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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therogue - Reply to #42

escaped turkey is pretty good

am mirroring to amped now

<< Comment #77 @ 18:13 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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therogue - Reply to #42

try the amped mirror.. should max you out!

Edited by therogue at 18:15 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #85 @ 18:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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firebat - Reply to #77

Thanks!

<< Comment #45 @ 17:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee

Gj with the customer satisfaction. ;)

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<< Comment #63 @ 17:59 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #45

Thanks for lol. =)

<< Comment #69 @ 18:05 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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phantazm11 - Reply to #63

<# !

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<< Comment #71 @ 18:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #69

THWAK!

<< Comment #72 @ 18:09 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #69

THWAK!

ihni that was coming!

<< Comment #172 @ 19:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #45

Not as if anyone can moan about a beta! Hope final version is 10x better otherwise I be devastated.

<< Comment #178 @ 19:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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g0th - Reply to #172

What a suprise

<< Comment #296 @ 23:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #172

Looks as though you found a way to moan during beta. :P

<< Comment #46 @ 17:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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stripy

maybe some more info on
* added r_ignoreHWGamma cvar
and
* new ear seperation algorithm for stereo software sound ?

btw:
fixes to dropped sounds and stuck hum sounds
\o/

<< Comment #47 @ 17:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #46

and ye, tnx to everyone that was involved with this patch(well the patch thats gona come out:)) in any way.

big [+] to all of ya

<< Comment #49 @ 17:52 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #46

r_ignoreHWGamma removes the desktop brightness issues when you play in window mode. Just set to r_ignoreHWGamma 1 and do a vid_restart (or place it in your autoconfig and you wont have to).

<< Comment #59 @ 17:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #49

ye thought that it was that, not really top of the priorities tbh, but its nice that is there^^

<< Comment #216 @ 21:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wviperw - Reply to #49

I can't for the life of me get this working for some reason. I tried putting r_ignoreHWGamma 1 in my config and I also tried typing it in the console and vid_restarting to no avail. When I load a level in MP it shows up as r_gamma 1 and then when I try to change the gamma it does nothing. (Geforce4, r_forceAmbient 0, WindowsXP)

Any tips?

<< Comment #1099 @ 04:59 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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chzzen - Reply to #216

That's what r_ignorehwgamma does, ur r_gamma won't work again since this effects the desktop brightness. Also, it seems much better working with other light setting :)

<< Comment #51 @ 17:54 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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raphox

the game is perfect for me now :)

<< Comment #48 @ 17:51 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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erthx

soo nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #50 @ 17:53 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Putka

Everything works :)

<< Comment #56 @ 17:56 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_

a year ago I might have given q4 another chance with this patch, but at this point? naaaah...

<< Comment #104 @ 18:37 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #56

zactly.

<< Comment #181 @ 20:14 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Venim - Reply to #56

same :o

<< Comment #191 @ 20:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #56

Some people actually dont live in the past, they see the present and go with it if they like it.

Not saying you would like it but atleast I like to try :)

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<< Comment #394 @ 03:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #191

Present sucks.

<< Comment #553 @ 07:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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al-Muharib - Reply to #394

:(

<< Comment #969 @ 18:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #191

the thing is that the argument "it took q3 years to get where it is today" is kinda stupid in my opinion because developers should know by now how an enjoyable/playable game is supposed to look like ootb. q3 is the game that *really* started the FPS/progaming hype IMO. ut2k3/4, d3, pk, q4 etc were (and still are for that matter) lacking features etc that made (and still make) q3 such a great game. for example, i just don't understand why they even released q4/pk without a q4/pktv client eventhough they advertised these games as THE new multiplayer-fps-game.

of course there have to be smaller changes/bugfixes etc like lowering damage etc, that's not what i'm talking about. but (nowadays) fundamental stuff for an FPS like gtv/pktv whatever should be included right away by now IMO.

<< Comment #995 @ 19:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #969

I still think Q2 is the best game ever and it just recently got working GTV (THE GAME IS 10 YEARS OLD:). I do get your argument though about that they should know better today, I just dont agree with your way of thinking in the matter that it is too late.. I seriously hope you are not leaving us soon if that is what you are talking about!

If I step on your toe and apoligize you would hate me forever and not forgive me? :(

<< Comment #1014 @ 19:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #995

it's never too late to change something, but you get my point...
i'm just tired of paying 50 bucks for a game that's supposed to be play/enjoyable, but in reality you're being used for another year and a half as a beta tester.

oh btw, the way you're talking to me I get the feeling that i'm not the fragmaster you're thinking of?! who am I gonna leave?! :F

Edited by fragmaster_ at 19:32 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #1020 @ 19:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1014

I dont know you or any other fragmaster... Just trying to be awesome with shitty examples and thinking :)

<< Comment #1021 @ 19:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #1020

errr... alright then i guess ;p

<< Comment #1073 @ 03:51 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #1014

but in reality you're being used for another year and a half as a beta tester.

I agree! Btw, I hear nowadays WinXP works relatively well. I'm seriously considering upgrading from me dear Win98

<< Comment #57 @ 17:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Streetrunner

Hopefully the Tourney bug is fixed, in tourney mode if someone ahs a bye and then he disconnects, it disconnects everyone mostly. Dont knwo if its q4 vanilla or q4max though.

<< Comment #328 @ 01:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #57

it was q4max

<< Comment #58 @ 17:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fuzz

O________________________________________________O

<< Comment #60 @ 17:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ichigo

wow nice Q4TV = GTFO Q3 :>

<< Comment #61 @ 17:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wakka

where are u q3 fanboys?? where?

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<< Comment #62 @ 17:59 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #61

hi u still gay lolz

<< Comment #70 @ 18:06 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #61

HERE!

<< Comment #80 @ 18:14 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #61

When will you grow up, seriously ?
Enjoy the release euphoria, and prey for that moment to last forever. It just reminds me 1.3 release, which didn't save this dead game at all.

<< Comment #1242 @ 04:36 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #80

u got pwned too much in q4, np for trying though. u hadnt had what it took.

<< Comment #90 @ 18:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #61

Playing Q3 mate. Loaded the patch up Q4 still felt crap even with 125fps. I'm sure the railgun is balanced blah blah. Just doesn't feel comfortable.

<< Comment #117 @ 18:51 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Fortress - Reply to #61

>ztn<

But seriously here is a [+] from the q3 community!
Now, I am actually thinking of getting a q4 key ;)

Edited by Fortress at 18:55 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #128 @ 19:01 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #117

Your the Q3 community? :<

<< Comment #161 @ 19:36 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #128

Yep, it's an adaptation of Emperors "I Am The Black Wizards" - Fortress "I Am The Q3 Community"

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<< Comment #716 @ 10:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #161

:D

<< Comment #190 @ 20:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Fortress - Reply to #128

I would assume that the q3 community embraces this patch.
Unless you're a q3er who prefers railgun imba, you should agree with me :P

Edited by Fortress at 20:32 CST, 7 February 2007

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ini - Reply to #190

90 damage 5 pickup ammo and smaller hitbox doesn't "fix" the railgun just makes it more bareably imo. Sadly Q4 still feels total crap to me, so it doesn't matter.

The fact is that it's still all up mountain to be honest. Is it better than 1.0/1.2/1.3 (+Q4max and yes I'm factoring in q4max for 1.4 being very good as it no doubt will be), yes. Is it better than Q3 1.32 + CPMA, no.

On a scale of 1-10 I'd give this a 6 maybe.

<< Comment #206 @ 20:49 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #200

how about you actually TRY it before giving a verdict?

god.. you people..

<< Comment #219 @ 21:08 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #206

Erm I did try it, what gave you the impression I did not?. And the things I do not like about the game are still not fixed and never will be, and Q4max won't fix them either.

e.g. The vertical scale of the whole game.

It's just not as fun as Q3 is for me (And a whole bunch of Q3'ers who will probably share this opinion).

Edited by incrates_ at 21:09 CST, 7 February 2007

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<< Comment #327 @ 01:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #219

i agree. every patch of q4 i download and i try for a while. i'm very happy with the progress q4's shown since 1.3 but it's still not enough to make me choose q4 over q3. i don't know... can't really explain why either but i just have more fun playing q3. the rail dmg reduction and new hitboxes aren't gonna make much of a difference to me when i'm only playing casually. i just don't see anything extra that q4 has to offer which q3 doesn't already and i don't see a point in switching just to "keep with the times"

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<< Comment #397 @ 03:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #327

ZOMG CROUCHSLIDING !!!!11111

<< Comment #416 @ 04:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #397

i like that for sure but apart from that i don't see too many major differences in gameplay. it's not like say cpm to vq3...

<< Comment #505 @ 06:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #416

LIES!!11 EVERYBODY LIKES SLIDING ON THEIR ASS!!111

<< Comment #838 @ 12:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mart33N - Reply to #505

whoever came up with the idea for crouchsliding must have watched a dog drag its ass over the carpet, looking like there's no tomorrow

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<< Comment #994 @ 19:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #838

I know the exact look you mean:>

<< Comment #1171 @ 12:39 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Mart33N - Reply to #994

xD

<< Comment #650 @ 09:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #397

Can't stand crouch sliding. It's just a rubbish version of bunnyhop+air control (And I don't really like that all that much :P).

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<< Comment #1085 @ 04:32 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #650

I agree, I use 'c' for crouch, so that means i cant even strafe properly with this additional key used so rapidly :(

<< Comment #1088 @ 04:32 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1085

Space and it still sucks

<< Comment #473 @ 05:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #219

if you tried it cuold you give a link for the final patch and matching Q4Max, cause all i found was the beta :(

<< Comment #297 @ 23:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Bozo - Reply to #206

Agreed too many morons post on here and give their opinions (which i dont think anyone want to hear anyways if they are negative) after less than even 6 hours after the patch is released. Not to mention its a beta so that bugs can be worked out for the final... JUST PLAIN IGNANT

<< Comment #209 @ 20:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #200

Yeah. Just wait for Q4max :)

<< Comment #319 @ 00:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #200

dude with q3 you can hit rg % over 60 way2ez talkin about gay?

<< Comment #371 @ 03:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #319

in CPMA it's way too ez, right. It's not that ez in OSP tho.
Therefore OSP > CPMA as LG and RG aren't that overpowered

Back to topic: Changelog looks very nice...

Edited by Cobs at 03:10 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #420 @ 04:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #371

what about OSP on lan then?

<< Comment #427 @ 04:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #420

I haven't pld CPMA on lan and therefore I can't compare it to OSP on lan.
However, in CPMA the LG and RG are easier to use with 30ms (online) than in OSP on lan.
Also Fox mentioned in an interview something like: omg what have they done with the LG...

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Liam - Reply to #371

By your logic, playing with one eye > two eyes.

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Cobs - Reply to #455

That�s your interpreting of it ;)
Fact is, OSP was (and still is) fine for years but some ppl wanna switch to CPMA when at the same time a lot of ppl are whining that the RG and LG are too overpowered in Q3.
Isn�t it a bit stupid then to switch to CPMA vq3 which has a way more overpowered LG and RG?
I still don�t get that. Mostly the same ppl that would like to go the CPMA way are the ones complaining about the RG and LG!?

However, we are in a Q4 topic and not Q3 ;)

<< Comment #645 @ 09:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #482

They're still overpowered in OSP, it's just the netcode in OSP is 'underpowered' for lack of a better word. Sticking to OSP is just a less dramatic version of playing CPMA VQ3 but having somebody run up to you and rub their dick on your face every time you take out the RG or LG.

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becks - Reply to #371

you could always play on some server with nice packetloss, that should help the accuracy :)

<< Comment #461 @ 05:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #200

retards

<< Comment #304 @ 00:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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beansandweiners - Reply to #128

"you're"

<< Comment #954 @ 17:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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jonte - Reply to #61

playing q3 probably. Why are there 1000 q4ers replying to this thread when a new patch to their game just came out, thats right, letting syncerror know about all the glitches this beta came with lol

<< Comment #1221 @ 20:19 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #61

hmmm playing q3 since there's about 300 times as many ppl playing q3 than q4...lol?

where are the crowded q4 servers...where???

<< Comment #64 @ 17:59 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Lysis

* railgun damage lowered to 90, start railgun ammo to 5

<< Comment #65 @ 18:01 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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TelMarine

pretty sweet, I wish I was downloading faster than 48kb/s.

Edited by TelMarine at 18:01 CST, 7 February 2007

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noctis - Reply to #65

torrent ftw

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TelMarine - Reply to #66

yeah torrent is owning, 160+

<< Comment #82 @ 18:16 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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therogue - Reply to #65

try the amped mirror, should max out anyone in the US

<< Comment #68 @ 18:04 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Lukin_

Ok, I expected to see q4tv and configurable fps cap but this really amazed me:

* railgun damage lowered to 90, start railgun ammo to 5

* multiplayer uses 8-sided collision boxes by default

I'm impressed! GJ Sync and id!

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<< Comment #102 @ 18:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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TheGunSlinger

Wow, sounds like a fix for every outstanding issue and Q4TV to boot.

90 rail damage - never thought you'd be that brave :-)

Really, really impressed - nice one guys.

<< Comment #204 @ 20:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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BENG

The torrent on the idsoftware site works just fine 2 mb/sec.

Here yah go:

id software torrent

<< Comment #75 @ 18:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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guts

LITTLE BIRDIE WAS RIGHT!!!

<< Comment #78 @ 18:13 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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LoCK

You... are... GODS! *waves with arms*

<< Comment #81 @ 18:15 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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JocK

OMG.

<< Comment #83 @ 18:16 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PreD|ru

Holy matha... :DDDDDDD!

<< Comment #84 @ 18:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Clamp-ok

its fun :). Excited for q4max to come and servers to come up.

<< Comment #86 @ 18:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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judge717

Good news.

<< Comment #87 @ 18:18 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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forever

<3<3<3<3<3<3

<< Comment #88 @ 18:19 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI

Good news indeed! I just hope my shitty cpu will manage the change <3

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<< Comment #94 @ 18:27 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Liefje - Reply to #88

=(

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fojji - Reply to #88

you can borrow my laptop if you come over <3

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<< Comment #183 @ 20:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #101

That is not nice .... that fucking hurts man :)

<< Comment #89 @ 18:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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r4nger

of course expected smoothness and extra perks will come with a new q4max release

<< Comment #334 @ 01:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #89

yep, i cant get stable 125 fps in base

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anal justice - Reply to #334

your cpu, ram and vga? please :)

<< Comment #532 @ 06:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #452

amd 3200, 6600gt, 1gb ram

<< Comment #569 @ 07:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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anal justice - Reply to #532

great. i guess my rig (3700+ @ 2.8GHz , 1GB RAM and 1950pro) will do fine then. i just don't have enough minerals for E4300 or any C2D cpu right now. those 965 and 975 are quite expensive too.

<< Comment #628 @ 09:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Zonic - Reply to #569

minerals, lol :)

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<< Comment #653 @ 09:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #532

you wont get a stable 125 fps in a 6+ man ffa in a 125cap server.. i have the same system just about and it drops down to 10-30fps.. i get constant 60 if its capped at 60 though.

<< Comment #788 @ 11:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #653

did i say i can?

<< Comment #828 @ 12:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #788

oh i read your post wrong.. i thought you said i can not i cant :\

<< Comment #91 @ 18:22 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Pushpabon

I thought I'd never see the day. RG dmg @ 90 and pickup ammo @ 5. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ EAT THAT ; D

<< Comment #92 @ 18:23 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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manic

Hey sync, I've become a bit of a q3 fanboy, but I must say. This is REALLY sick. GJ :)

<< Comment #93 @ 18:26 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji

i'd recommend using r_usesmp if you can. it'll practically double your fps (with forceambient that is) :)

<< Comment #98 @ 18:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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erok - Reply to #93

What does that command do?

<< Comment #105 @ 18:38 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #98

Dual Core Support

<< Comment #129 @ 19:01 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #105

does it support HT?

<< Comment #131 @ 19:02 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #129

Think so, enable and see :P

<< Comment #141 @ 19:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #131

does it actualy work with amd's now? or am i that much behind (quit q4 around 1.2 or smt, i think... cant remember - too long ago)

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ini - Reply to #141

I've know idea. It didn't work the last time I tried it though (AMD). But since I got this pc I didn't need it to get 60fps anyway (And get 125fps solid too). Then Q4 stayed shit, and is only just starting to be a half decent game now so didn't bother to check.

<< Comment #148 @ 19:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #145

hmm ok, i dont have q4 installed and too lazy to do so. btw using that command in older versions i always got like 3x less fps. eventho i capped the fps even in mid/high quality so didnt really matter :P

<< Comment #149 @ 19:18 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #148

Well I just tried it now. Didn't crash and I don't seem to lose FPS however SMP was bugged with lagometer too if I recall correctly so *shrugs*

<< Comment #169 @ 19:44 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #149

Not in 1.4, I believe. ;)

Edited by AnthonyJ at 19:45 CST, 7 February 2007

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Troll - Reply to #169

Looks like it still is, because id have done this Cowboy Fix. Should send these geeks to military school, perhaps they'll come back and put some effort into 1.5 and get the job done. Cry me a river AJ.

Edited by Troll at 16:31 CST, 8 February 2007

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mindz - Reply to #910

me222222 hihhhii

<< Comment #443 @ 04:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #98

enables support for duo core cpus..

<< Comment #456 @ 05:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #93

wat if u only have 1 cpu?
btw does q4 have picmip? does it increase fps much?

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Heartlesss - Reply to #456

Q4 have picmip effect, but it's not the r_picmip command which doesn't exist :). And it doesn't increase perf. You better have to remove bump mapping, shadows etc... (r_forceambient 0.4 FTW :-))

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MOTHERRUSSIA - Reply to #93

Fox, what CPU, RAM and Video Card you have? and what fps you are getting?

My setup is
AMD 4000 (not dual)
2GB RAM
7900 GT 256mb

I started to think to get myself a dual core cpu after I read your post stating about such a huge performance increase. But first, I do not know how much fps i'll be getting with 1.4 + new q4max. And second even I switch to AMD 4400-4800 dual core, will I actually get 125 fps with my current setup?

Edited by MOTHERRUSSIA at 12:33 CST, 10 February 2007

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fojji - Reply to #1263

i dont know about amd but if you get a core 2 duo cpu you will get 125 easily (maybe not in 10 player ffa though ;p)

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MOTHERRUSSIA - Reply to #1265

OK, thanks! but what is your actual setup? It will help me to understand better what hardware I should aim for. You probably have some high end rig being competitive player.

Also,I am your fanboy!!! Could I have your config now please, please? =))

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fojji - Reply to #1267

my stationary computer isnt all that spectacular..

core2duo 2.4ghz
2gb ram
gf7600 gt

www.fojji.se for my config :)

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MOTHERRUSSIA - Reply to #1299

Thanks for cfg ! =)
Looking at your setup I am sure I'll be fine with AMD dual core 939 and don't have to buy a completely new system.
q4 1.2 benchmark

Edited by MOTHERRUSSIA at 16:30 CST, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #95 @ 18:28 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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stripy

now all i need is a new comp ;)

<< Comment #108 @ 18:45 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #95

heh me too ;)

<< Comment #96 @ 18:29 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Torzelan '

Cool, will try when there's a q4max and servers to try it on. Must say the list of changes looks surprisingly good, whoa.

<< Comment #97 @ 18:29 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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aggnog

never played q4 but this news is pretty amazing !

as i said in irc , gg wp arqon B>
even if you had nothing to do with this , you had everything to do with this

<< Comment #147 @ 19:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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xou - Reply to #97

the nog must try some crouchslide !

<< Comment #99 @ 18:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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h3i

Inb4spam

<< Comment #100 @ 18:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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h3i - Reply to #99

D:<

<< Comment #107 @ 18:43 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #100

Nice

<< Comment #103 @ 18:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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retire

stermy is f*cked

<< Comment #106 @ 18:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #103

Who knows.. he's had a head start at adjusting. =)

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<< Comment #133 @ 19:05 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #106

who was able to test it before this release?

<< Comment #179 @ 20:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #106

this is the sort of undeniable evidence that id are trying to improve the game, and make it appeal to the players and improve its competative scene. gj on the patch

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Anonymous (hill-b-067.resnet.purdue.edu)

is there a picture of the new hitbox compared to the old one? the old one i've seen, but nice to compare to new one :)

<< Comment #130 @ 19:02 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #124

its just 1 click away from the news post...
but anyway, here it is for the lazy ones.:

Edited by Nukm at 19:04 CST, 7 February 2007

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ini - Reply to #130

It was in v1.0 too. Just due to SP reasons it was defaulted to Square

<< Comment #168 @ 19:43 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #143

Its more than simply tweaked value for pm_usecylinder - they have been tweaked so that they dont cause clipping issues on stairs in the same way as 1.0 to 1.3

<< Comment #234 @ 21:36 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wviperw - Reply to #168

I thought pm_useCylinder 1 was the default in 1.4? I just tried it and it was set to 0 and g_showCollisionModels 1 confirmed this fact. Also, what do the other values of pm_useCylinder do? I tried 2 and 3 and 4 and they didn't seem to do anything according to showCollisionModels.

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #234

Oh, it defaults to 1, but the thing is the behaviour is different to 1.0 -> 1.3.

In foxes picture below you'll notice that he's nicely aligned the octagon with the stairs, which makes it behave somewhat similar to an axis aligned box. In all earlier releases, the octagon was rotated by 22.5 degrees, meaning that it wasnt axis aligned and so it wouldnt move smoothly along axially aligned edges.

The effect of this is that in 1.0 to 1.3 (and in GTR) you get stuck on stairs where you wouldnt in 1.4. Movement is a bit different because of it which is what fox is talking about, but its not fundamentally horrible like it was before they were axis aligned ;)

As for what pm_usecylinder > 1 does, it allows you to set an arbitrary number of sides (you'll need to serverMapRestart to see the effects). So if you wanna see what happens with a 10 sides rather than 8, you can. 8 is the best though, so just leave it ;)

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ix - Reply to #168

What sort of issues did they cause? Fox mentioned something about it effecting ramp jumps too.

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fojji - Reply to #236

well as illustrated in the image, you lose footing on the ground at a certain angle sooner than you did before. meaning you have to jump earlier or in a different angle. it takes some getting used to.
also, sometime you can have trouble getting onto the ramp from the stairs :\

Edited by fox at 22:04 CST, 7 February 2007

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<< Comment #259 @ 22:54 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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xou - Reply to #243

fox never sleep by night!

<< Comment #284 @ 23:27 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #259

Foxes are nocturnal!

<< Comment #281 @ 23:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ix - Reply to #243

Thanks, nice explanation. I think people will adapt in a few days, this method is just better.

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pisk - Reply to #243

in some other post i read hitboxes do NOT rotate with pov.. and ramps are axis-aligned.. contrary to this picture of yours

<< Comment #335 @ 01:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ix - Reply to #318

Just rotate the pic by 45 degrees but yes you are correct.

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pisk - Reply to #335

(on the pic) either the hitbox is not axis aligned, or the ramp isn't.. rotating won't help =(

KITSUNE PLAYED A TRICK ON US!!

<< Comment #550 @ 07:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #318

if you are moving, the hitbox turns with you.

<< Comment #609 @ 08:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Rizzo - Reply to #550

in soviet russia the hitbox moves you!
couldn't resist

<< Comment #739 @ 10:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #550

No, the hitbox remains axis-aligned, always facing cardinal directions. So as you turn your view, the hitbox appears to spin in the opposite direction (which is of course it remaining static and you turning away from it)

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morbyte - Reply to #243

this is only true for ramps/steps which are not alinged NS or EW

<< Comment #585 @ 07:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #243

Did I just hear from a big "BOOO!" from the trickjumpers in the backrow? Or was it "WOOO!!!" ?

<< Comment #605 @ 08:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #585

no overbounce, booooo

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<< Comment #109 @ 18:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mbc

lightning gun still too strong?

<< Comment #112 @ 18:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tzz - Reply to #109

Hitbox changes should effectively nerf the lightning gun. The question is if it will be enough.

<< Comment #329 @ 01:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #109

from the games i played so far, rockets dominated lg even more

<< Comment #110 @ 18:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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supersonicwaffle

zomg

<< Comment #125 @ 19:00 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (l-cw-a02.isp.t-ipnet.de)

lnx & win mirror
http://www.sn-q4pickup.de/index.php?option=co...;Itemid=46

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<< Comment #111 @ 18:47 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tzz

Spanish server @ 62.81.63.141:28004

I have set si_fps to 125 to see how bad performance is compared with regular settings.

<< Comment #144 @ 19:14 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #111

is 125 actualy usefull in q4? cuz u know, its not q3 n all.. ;p

<< Comment #150 @ 19:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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bab - Reply to #144

100 feels pretty good too..

<< Comment #160 @ 19:36 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tzz - Reply to #144

Yep, it's stupid but stupid quakers want the same fps they have in Q3 :P

100 is pretty reasonable

<< Comment #357 @ 02:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #160

I want 120 hz and 120(or 5) fps, seems to go to 125 though. But I don't want to nerf my chance for updates just for using 100.

<< Comment #213 @ 20:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #144

after trying 125 just now for a while, i lowered it to 100 and it felt like shit to me :P maybe im just too used to q3 fps.

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<< Comment #457 @ 05:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #213

ure set in ur ways more than an oap
we get it now stop posting here

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ashr - Reply to #457

i didn't get a word of what you said and you should be the first one to stop posting here.

<< Comment #572 @ 07:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #495

http://www.jayssite.com/stuff/l33t/l33t_translator.html

<< Comment #113 @ 18:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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z0uLess

oh. looks sexy

<< Comment #114 @ 18:49 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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retire

RL splash area needs to be smaller and lg damage reduced a little

Edited by diabz at 18:49 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #116 @ 18:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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stunt.us

850 kb/s is worth giving Q4 another chance :D

<< Comment #118 @ 18:51 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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OrangeChef

Fixed netcode? OMFG! Does that mean I can play online form Australian now?
Seirously I am uber excited *downloads*

Is there going to be a Quake4 1.4 MP demo released as well?

<< Comment #163 @ 19:38 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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tzz - Reply to #118

It feels a lot smoother and projectiles are ok, but hitscan weapons are exactly the same, impossible to hit with more than 50ms.

Edited by thrazz at 19:39 CST, 7 February 2007

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OrangeChef - Reply to #163

Alot smoother is all i need, hitscan, i can compensate for

<< Comment #367 @ 03:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #163

i almost never play bellow 50ms, that must be it ;D

<< Comment #202 @ 20:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SirRoxen - Reply to #118

"Is there going to be a Quake4 1.4 MP demo released as well?"

That's actually a pretty good idea, let people try out Q4 how it should've been at release. :)

<< Comment #369 @ 03:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Amp - Reply to #202

Another idea is to let the Quake 4 1.4 MP Demo also be a "Spectator Client" for GTV ala what Command & Conquer 3 are doing.

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<< Comment #787 @ 11:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ufo - Reply to #369

cool ideas guys, spam sync

<< Comment #119 @ 18:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m

ayeeee
should I reinstall q4?

<< Comment #120 @ 18:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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OrangeChef - Reply to #119

yes, then come play me

<< Comment #146 @ 19:14 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #120

I�m too lazy >_<
Gonna wait for the final + q4max

<< Comment #122 @ 18:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Amp

It took everything I had to not fall to my knees and weep pure tears of joy.

Thank God my new PC components should get here tomorrow.

Now all we need is a redistribution campaign. Repackage the game preloaded with 1.4 and send it out to the world!

Edited by Amp at 19:02 CST, 7 February 2007

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<< Comment #135 @ 19:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #122

they should've done that right away. they've seen before how a playable and ejoyable game has to look like.

<< Comment #123 @ 18:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^

* Q4TV
* railgun damage lowered to 90, start railgun ammo to 5
* simple items drawn closer to the ground

gotta love id Software <3

<< Comment #126 @ 19:00 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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whiskey

So this means the 60 fps cap is gone?

<< Comment #139 @ 19:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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bab - Reply to #126

ye but it's serverside

<< Comment #134 @ 19:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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g0d-trito

weeeee :D A happy day!

<< Comment #137 @ 19:11 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wata

hyperblaster-climb seems improved too, cool =)

<< Comment #142 @ 19:13 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #137

does this have to do with the new hitboxes?

<< Comment #153 @ 19:29 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #142

Can't think of any logical reason for that. The hitbox Top-to-Bottom is still the same.

<< Comment #330 @ 01:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #153

bounces are more common and get more height to them from rockets, i have a feeling it has something to do with the hitboxes too.. how? i don't know.

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becks - Reply to #330

maybe it's because the rockets can now get closer the the player's "feet" giving it more vertical instead of horizontal thrust.

just guessing tho.

<< Comment #655 @ 09:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #485

Yeah that would make sense, where before if you hit at the bottom of the hitbox (To one of the corners) the giant rockets would basically turn it into a direct hit rocket (No bouncing) now it hits the ground. If id were to make rockets smaller then it would increase this feeling again.

<< Comment #659 @ 09:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #485

good guess, its probably something like that.. and same with hyper climbing

<< Comment #138 @ 19:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Vaden

Weeeehah! Looks great!

<< Comment #151 @ 19:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Boojum

I've never played q4, mainly cos of hardware and until now never felt like I was missing out on something. This patch surpasses anything id ever did for q3. I'm very impressed and wish I had the time to invest in mastering another quake.

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<< Comment #156 @ 19:31 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #151

So you didn't play Q4 before, but you think you are missing now because of what you read in a changelog? :D

<< Comment #152 @ 19:23 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll

beta updated to work with vista?

<< Comment #173 @ 19:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #152

1.4 has been seen running under Vista, yes.

<< Comment #176 @ 19:56 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #173

ye, 1.3 worked but stutters at max fps.

<< Comment #368 @ 03:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #176

thats prolly vista m8

<< Comment #1245 @ 04:50 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #176

vista is shit, xp > vista

<< Comment #203 @ 20:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (216.66.21.176)

Is there a chance to get a beta SDK?
I\'d be *very* interested in that...
I\'m sure that something changed, and I\'ve got more than a clue suggesting it\'s not just API_VERSION ;)
Thanks for your efforts and for trying and making this game worth its name!

<< Comment #210 @ 20:51 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #203

http://turkeyfiles.escapedturkey.net/quake4/s....4-SDK.exe

Edited by SyncError at 20:51 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #435 @ 04:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (216.66.21.176) - Reply to #210

awesome!
Thanks a lot!
/me e.Hugs syncerror!

<< Comment #1246 @ 04:56 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #435

register!

<< Comment #211 @ 20:51 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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nahraq - Reply to #203

Also, http://www.iddevnet.com/quake4/

Edited by nahraq at 20:51 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #154 @ 19:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wata

some "pro" should play a friendly game tomorrow with Q4TV, juste to taste the revolution of saying "byebye suckastreaming"

would be cool imo =)

<< Comment #331 @ 01:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #154

haha agreed.. i wanna try out q4tv with 100 specs

<< Comment #155 @ 19:31 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Lukin_

Does anyone else has problems with jumping from tele to MH on "Monsoon" with this patch or I'm just too tired?

<< Comment #162 @ 19:37 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #155

You're trying on a local server most likely and are having issues with the si_fps. Retest on a dedicated.. (you can do it listen, but you may need to explicitly set your si_fps.

<< Comment #235 @ 21:40 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wviperw - Reply to #162

Also happening on Placebo Effect. I tried running a dedicated server and then connecting to it on the same computer but, as always, it crashed when I had 2 instances of Q4 running. Yes I had win_allowmultipleinstances 1. :)

Like poindexter said, it seems to fix it at multiples of 60fps.

<< Comment #525 @ 06:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #235

You also need to set fs_savepath on at least one of the two instances ;)

<< Comment #214 @ 20:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #155

i had that too on a listen server with both si_fps 100 and 125. i just couldn't jump after coming out of the tele. instead i'd just slide forward.

<< Comment #224 @ 21:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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poindexter - Reply to #155

seems to only work properly on listen servers w/ si_fps set to a multiple of 60.

<< Comment #158 @ 19:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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dzjepp

So how does it play?

<< Comment #175 @ 19:53 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Jabberwackey - Reply to #158

Like someone sprayed cum everywhere!

Edited by Jabberwackey at 19:53 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #415 @ 04:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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.syL - Reply to #175

So still sticky and sluggish i suppose?

<< Comment #661 @ 09:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #415

only if ur net is going crazy.. play on a 20ms server thats set for 125fps.. use a 120hz monitor with a good enough pc and its butter.

<< Comment #725 @ 10:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #661

lol, didnt quite get the joke, did you?

<< Comment #774 @ 11:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #725

i knew someone would reply with that comment.. of course i got the joke, but maybe he really was wondering if it was still sluggish :P

<< Comment #159 @ 19:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr

a little late but better than never i guess. sucks that i uninstalled q4 :< the changes are looking really good.

can someone explain how the higher fps thing works? does this mean we will be able to capture for movies at higher framerates without getting duplicate frames?

<< Comment #164 @ 19:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #159

Yes. The frames are unique data snapshots and not duplicates.

<< Comment #166 @ 19:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #164

thank you! but what if the si_fps was set to 60 and the game was recorded? is there any way to still capture at higher frames?

<< Comment #170 @ 19:45 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #166

Nope!

<< Comment #184 @ 20:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #170

damn. oh well atleast the newer demos will be fine.

<< Comment #336 @ 01:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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technics - Reply to #170

what if u play a demo on Q4TV and then capture it?

<< Comment #526 @ 06:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #336

I assumed that was possible until I tried it yesterday and... nothing happened. I'm not sure you can record off a repeater.

<< Comment #662 @ 09:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #526

spec demos suck anyway

<< Comment #666 @ 09:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #662

True, but if we could record, it might open doors to recording mvd off a repeater... :)

<< Comment #167 @ 19:42 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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renrut

I'M SPRAYING CUM EVERYWHERE!!!!!11

<< Comment #171 @ 19:47 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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dreg

wow

<< Comment #177 @ 19:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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dallow

good job :)

<< Comment #276 @ 23:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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renbolicious

http://www.edvpd.de/Quake4-1.4beta/Quake4-beta-1.4.0.exe

there you go, another fast mirror, especially for continental europeans :)

<< Comment #404 @ 04:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #276

Inferior continentals! Real manly man scandinavians use idsoftware's torrent and 100mbit connections! :D

Independent internetting! Putting the bandwidth back in the hands of the people!

Edited by voodoochopstiks at 04:03 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #509 @ 06:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #404

so sweden is an island now?

<< Comment #513 @ 06:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #509

peninsula*

<< Comment #518 @ 06:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #513

italy is an peninsula too :P at least half of it anyway.

spain is one though :)

<< Comment #522 @ 06:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #518

The difference is that this peninsulas roots are in northern russia, not central europe.

<< Comment #530 @ 06:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #522

so you are Asian continentals, admit it :)

<< Comment #544 @ 06:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #530

We prefer eurasians :D

<< Comment #545 @ 06:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #544

haha

<< Comment #1348 @ 16:12 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Fortress - Reply to #545

Russia is Asia?

<< Comment #1349 @ 16:18 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1348

no, of course not, Europe extends right to the Bering Sea.

But more to your point I know that that part of russia lies in europe, but it wasn't like our discussion was a very serous one ;)

<< Comment #180 @ 20:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Burpy

I can finally play Q4 in a window & not have my desktop gamma affected. \\o o// \o/

My Desktop

Edited by fumoffu at 20:14 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #349 @ 02:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #180

how'd you get your icons that big? :o

<< Comment #682 @ 09:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Burpy - Reply to #349

Right click Taskbar (within where icons are located) & view>Large Icons.

ScreenShot

Edited by fumoffu at 10:00 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #723 @ 10:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #682

ta :)

<< Comment #182 @ 20:16 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Ins0mnia

nerf te druids and warlocks! buff the priests ! ! ! !! ! ! !11111 ONE ONE ONE

<< Comment #196 @ 20:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #182

nerf druids hell yea..

<< Comment #487 @ 05:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #182

SK-Insomnia ?

<< Comment #508 @ 06:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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anal justice - Reply to #487

Zdravko Georgiev?

<< Comment #185 @ 20:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SwantanamoJ

Huge update, maybe I'll have to reinstall it after I upgrade a few things. =)

<< Comment #187 @ 20:26 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ted

I hope this is as good as it sounds :)

<< Comment #189 @ 20:30 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nellie

Is it intentiional that I can play multiplayer without the cd in?

<< Comment #192 @ 20:34 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #189

It has been since the first update. :)

<< Comment #195 @ 20:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nellie - Reply to #192

:O

<< Comment #489 @ 05:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #195

8==D- -�

<< Comment #193 @ 20:34 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #189

You dont need the CD in the drive, but you do need a valid key that I hope you bought :)

<< Comment #197 @ 20:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nellie - Reply to #193

Wish I hadn't.

<< Comment #194 @ 20:39 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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falcuma - Reply to #189

since 1.1 yes

<< Comment #218 @ 21:08 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #189

yes, has been like that since 1.1 iirc

<< Comment #198 @ 20:42 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ashr

reinstalled q4 and installed this patch. all i can say is i hope 125fps becomes the standard. i ran around with that for a while and it was super smooth. i tried si_fps 100 later and i didn't like it as much :P

<< Comment #199 @ 20:43 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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nahraq

You just broke the heart of half the ESReality readers. What will they bitch about now? You could have left Q4TV, frame rate, and hitboxes fixes out! :(((

-edit- On id Software's website there's a nice preview of the new features with cute pictures.

Edited by nahraq at 20:47 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #386 @ 03:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #199

What will they bitch about now?
UT3

<< Comment #640 @ 09:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rolf - Reply to #386

Atleast the unreal engines works

<< Comment #201 @ 20:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Demiurge '

finally looks like progress

<< Comment #205 @ 20:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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dallow

the jump from teleport to mega on monsoon doesnt work anymore. You stop almost dead when you come out of the teleport.

<< Comment #207 @ 20:49 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #205

Not true when joining a dedicated server...

<< Comment #208 @ 20:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #205

just an issue with 125fps + vq4 + listen server. it'll work in q4max although no one should ever play listen server :)

<< Comment #333 @ 01:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #208

it happend on all the servers i played on today and most of them were dedicated and had 125fps.. is it the 125fps?

<< Comment #619 @ 08:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #333

you're right, seems to be on dedicated too ;O well at least its fixable :)

<< Comment #629 @ 09:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #619

true, unlike the ramp jumps.. im sure most will adapt tho

<< Comment #220 @ 21:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #205

yeah im making a video now, just to show it, i play listen servers vs my bro sometimes. theres also another new jump you can do..

[edit] see: http://www.dailymotion.com/doYdY/video/1946475

Edited by doYdY at 10:21 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #266 @ 22:59 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Spyyder - Reply to #205

ya i noticed this, its still possible, but u have to wait like half a second after coming out of the teleporter then jump. Its really annoying.

<< Comment #212 @ 20:53 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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go-botz

* the multiplayer game now resides in q4mp/. The game will automatically
reload to fs_game q4mp when starting a multiplayer server or connecting to one.

does that mean multiplayer is sort of a mod for q4 now?

<< Comment #215 @ 21:06 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #212

Of sorts, yes.

<< Comment #223 @ 21:12 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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go-botz - Reply to #215

so does single player still have square hitboxes?

i always thought it woulda been better to release multiplayer as a mod, that way you wouldnt have problems with changing things then having it effect single player.

<< Comment #242 @ 22:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #223

I guess they had to seperate the Singelplayer and the Multiplayer part to make all these changes not to ruin the Singeplayer experience or something? :)

<< Comment #273 @ 23:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (203-173-174-252.bliink.ihug.co.nz) - Reply to #212

Quake 4 was a mod for quake 4, it's how then engine works. But yes, moreso now I guess since mp loads from a different folder than fs_game_base.
They did it so they didn't have to worry about all the mp changes breaking sp.

<< Comment #275 @ 23:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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cK-ermac

Idsoftware, are you on crack? WTF are you thinking lowering the dmg on railgun and messing w/ the cells... I guess its true that UT3 will reign over you now that you screwed up.

<< Comment #279 @ 23:09 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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zzhro^ - Reply to #275

lol someone's pissed about the rail hahahaha :)

<< Comment #286 @ 23:31 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #275

Actually surprised to hear that from you. I'd suggest you play some more matches before making that opinion.

Furthermore, I stress we want everyones opinions on this.. but we'd like it from honest testing. This is a beta.

<< Comment #290 @ 23:41 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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sb-capo - Reply to #286

well since i can hit anything now, i would say the 90 damage is overkill.

<< Comment #321 @ 01:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sb-capo - Reply to #290

er *can't

<< Comment #591 @ 07:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #321

You gotta move your mouse so that the crosshair points at the enemy-model, rather than 2-3 feet left or right of it

<< Comment #405 @ 04:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cazro - Reply to #286

Well, since I and others are not going to seriously play 1.4 until Q4MAX comes out, don't expect many serious suggestions. Could you have given 1.4 to q4max like 2 weeks before deciding to release it so that they'd have a headstart. Sorry but q4base 1.4 is not fun for me. I miss the little things that q4max offered.

<< Comment #406 @ 04:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #405

We've been giving them updates since early December.

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<< Comment #410 @ 04:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #405

They had that covered. :)

You'll get a q4max build soon - hopefully the last blocker issue was fixed last night, but we've got a few things to tidy up and test before its wise to release it. Of course it was a moving target, so the merge with the final build was only completed late on Tuesday night, before you ask why those issues werent fixed before id released.

<< Comment #586 @ 07:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #405

C'mon Caz you should know ID better than that :(

<< Comment #294 @ 23:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #275

Now now settle down Jimmy.

<< Comment #295 @ 23:50 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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zengfu - Reply to #275

guess you'll actually have to bind the other weapons now huh?

<< Comment #384 @ 03:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #275

..and they're called SLUGGS not cells.
ya nab!

<< Comment #403 @ 04:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #384

Slugs. Uranium slugs.

<< Comment #507 @ 06:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #384

yep, and all the rail-whimers are just slug-catchers :P

<< Comment #217 @ 21:07 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll

Played for 5 mins..
- First i joined without pb enabled, so screen says click ok to continue, except you can't click it without toggling console. An old show stopping bug for players who don't know how to resolve.
- Not playable in Vista, dunno whether its 8000series drivers, but everything stutters nevertheless.
- Random humiliation noise every few seconds.
- Movement still gets messed when making certain jumps (was fixed by Q4max)
- Netcode still disrupting movement severly.
- Then kicked by pb, Restriction O/S privileges inadequate.

The game still feels like shit, proberbly due to netcode and many old bugs not being fixed.

<< Comment #221 @ 21:10 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #217

The humiliation sounds aren't random. We've changed it to a global sound so that everyone hears when a humiliation occurs. We've decided its much more fun that way. =)

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<< Comment #231 @ 21:22 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #221

Yea i thought that was a bug. It's not more fun imo, middle of a big fight and you hear that nonsense from the other end of the map. I'ts only fun for the players directly involved.

<< Comment #237 @ 21:44 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ix - Reply to #221

That's a silly reason for a change. It's short-term gimmick fun.

<< Comment #240 @ 21:54 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #237

ihni

<< Comment #280 @ 23:18 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ix - Reply to #240

Sarcasm is dangerous on the internets. -_-

Edited by ix-ir at 23:18 CST, 7 February 2007

<< Comment #288 @ 23:35 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #240

<# THWAK!

<< Comment #462 @ 05:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #240

wats ihni mean?

<< Comment #588 @ 07:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #462

ihni

<< Comment #875 @ 13:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #462

I have no idea mate :s

<< Comment #230 @ 21:21 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #217

ah forgot to add, crash in window mode.

<< Comment #584 @ 07:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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qtip - Reply to #217

"inadequate O/S privileges"

Thats pb and happens in q3 too. You have to run quake under admin-privileges if the game-folder belongs to an admin account.

Right-click quake -> run as... -> adminstrator
should solve this.

Edited by qtip at 07:50 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #274 @ 23:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (pool-71-99-229-231.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net)

punkbuster just adds those problems when fags load up q4....for everyone else it works though.

<< Comment #225 @ 21:13 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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zpnq

I just had a bit of a run around with 125 fps and refresh rate at 144, this what i play q3 at. It now feels just as smooth as my q3 THANKGOD.

I am very happy with the feel of the game now :)

<< Comment #786 @ 11:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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light - Reply to #225

125 fps and 144 refresh rate is not smooth, its unsynched, you need to do some 120/120 combination to get a smooth result, trust me.

<< Comment #888 @ 15:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #786

well some of us (me) have to play with like 50 fps and 75hz so it can't be that bad!

<< Comment #227 @ 21:15 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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doYdY

here is a video of the 'bug' that seems to happen on listen servers. i set the si_fps to 125, and then tried to do monsoon mh jump. it sometimes really messes up, and just kinda does 3 quick jumps from the tele.

the video shows 15 fps but i was at about 85 constant, its just fraps slowing my computer down.

at the end of the video (~1min) is a CJ to mh, which i do not believe was possible before :>

http://www.dailymotion.com/doYdY/video/1946475

<< Comment #241 @ 21:56 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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JeeFour - Reply to #227

no that jump was definitely possible, socrates did it in his match against fatal1ty.

<< Comment #256 @ 22:44 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #241

it wasnt half as easy as it is now then :>

<< Comment #310 @ 00:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Spyyder - Reply to #256

that cj to mega used to be a pain in the ass, its much easier now it seems. it helps if u wait a little(like half a second) after u come out of the teleporter then jump.

<< Comment #263 @ 22:56 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #227

I heard is broken in q4base but not in q4max.

<< Comment #267 @ 23:00 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #227

best way to do it in q4 base is to crouchslide right as you exit, then continue as normal. but as has been posted, the broken jumps are fixed in q4max

<< Comment #401 @ 03:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cazro - Reply to #227

The CJ to mega was easy.... lol no sarcasm. about 90% success rate..... noobs :D

<< Comment #228 @ 21:18 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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TosspoT

TV o/ Once you release this final, you can release RTCW2! <3

<< Comment #358 @ 02:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #228

BTW, voicechat is broadcast in the GTV feed... ;)

<< Comment #374 @ 03:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #358

voice in GTV ... oh noes :|

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doYdY - Reply to #374

voice in gtv = shoutcasting by itg/tsn etc? :>

<< Comment #408 @ 04:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #407

O_o i was thinking more like in game voice (teamspeak/vent kinda thing) for gtv server = 100s of yelling "fu lobster" etc etc quotes lol

<< Comment #412 @ 04:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #408

Fortunately I think its only coming from the game server, so a shoutcaster on the server would be good. I've not actually tested it myself, but pretty sure someone said that it works ;)

<< Comment #424 @ 04:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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.syL - Reply to #412

Now why isn't that in the news. That's awesome and something a lot of people have been calling out for.

<< Comment #425 @ 04:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #424

both the talking in the gtv server and the shoutcasting would be a great addition.

shoutcasting in gtv is just perfect, it makes it like 9999 times better to watch.

<< Comment #432 @ 04:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #412

Yes, voice chat used on the server is broadcasted to the Q4TV server and clients... so a shoutcaster can join as a spec, leave their mic on and provide shoutcast audio to the Q4TV spectators.

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Nicky - Reply to #432

coolies

<< Comment #444 @ 04:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #432

how does q4tv work, is it p2p? Or are you still required to have a rather big upload if you have +100 specs?

<< Comment #445 @ 04:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #444

Proxy server. But its bandwidth is small in comparison to streams...

<< Comment #474 @ 05:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #432

that awesome, should make a comment in the changelog somewhere about it

(q4tv > gtv ahahahahahah ;))

Edited by Nukm at 05:41 CST, 8 February 2007

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becks - Reply to #432

can the players on the server listen to the voice chat? Or rather is there a cvar that they definately can't listen, cause there could be awkward moments, as in:

"Fatality is waiting around the corner at ra - Oh wait Toxic somehow noticed and shot a rocket right at his feed..."

<< Comment #538 @ 06:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #499

It is muzzled by the same cvars as regular chat, so assuming they dont allow non-ref specs to speak anyway, then it should be fine.

Perhaps there is some scope for a specific shoutcaster option though which doesnt even try.

Edited by AnthonyJ at 06:54 CST, 8 February 2007

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becks - Reply to #538

well I was talking about shoutcasting in that made-up quote.

<< Comment #547 @ 07:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #540

Yea - and I mean that someone using voicechat on the server to shoutcast will not be heard by the players if "mutespectators" is set, because its treated in the same way as "say" type chat.

A separate shoutcaster option would be useful if the admins use say/voicechat to talk to the players when not ref'd, or if people dont like mutespecs for some reason.

Edited by AnthonyJ at 07:03 CST, 8 February 2007

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becks - Reply to #547

ah, I understand now

<< Comment #621 @ 08:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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TosspoT - Reply to #432

You sir are a god!

<< Comment #632 @ 09:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #621

once q4max is released, i think we need an exhibition match with you shoutcasting to test out q4tv and see how it is with alot of specs, dont you? :)

<< Comment #636 @ 09:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bottleofsmoke - Reply to #432

holy shit thats revolutionary!

<< Comment #1026 @ 20:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Lith - Reply to #432

does the voice record on to demos recorded on gtv?

<< Comment #1048 @ 23:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1026

now that would be good!

<< Comment #229 @ 21:20 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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fur*q

Had some really odd stuff going on a Jolt ffa dm server. (100fps)
Was in spec, saw lots of ghost fights (players flicker)
Would lag apon death of specced player (really long 3 sec type lag/ lockup)
Pressed tab to see scores, score board stayed until i joined in then went back to spec mode.
It all calmed down for a bit then want all spazzy again.
Put that in your to do list and smoke it.

<< Comment #232 @ 21:32 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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wch

SlashQuit.net - Windows

SlashQuit.net - Linux

<< Comment #233 @ 21:34 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Zanno

wow they even fixed the shotgun, that's simply over the top

<< Comment #238 @ 21:47 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Arcita

i might actually give this a try.. i just wish that there was someway to make an active community appear out of nowhere. playing quake these days feels so lonely, unlike the quake 2 and early quake 3 days :(

<< Comment #272 @ 23:03 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mrkram

sweet - can't wait to this in action.

<< Comment #247 @ 22:16 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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semtex

AWESOME!

<< Comment #353 @ 02:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #247

max, wtf are you doing up at 05:16!!!!

<< Comment #616 @ 08:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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semtex - Reply to #353

Waiting for my rendering to finish :<

<< Comment #248 @ 22:17 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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NaAani

Oh my, 125fps owns.

<< Comment #249 @ 22:22 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Erk

5 rail ammo on pickup is a GREAT idea for ctf. 3 attackers come into base and you have standard 2 defenders. Each attacker takes 2-3 rail hits to kill, defenders take 2 rail hits most of the time. Now the 2 defs have 10 ammo in total, and it probably takes 7 hits to kill the 3 attackers, which means the defs have to hit 70% rail to win a battle or they run out of ammo while the attackers have most likely 10-15 shots in total with rail so they have to hit in the range of 30-40% rail to kill the 2 defs. It's also not unlikely that you'll spend alot of rails trying to stop attackers from comming into the base while they rail back. In addition to that alot of ctf bases are so big that you use MG instead of RL or HB and you sometimes have to leave your flag unguarded for as much as 5 secs to be able to pick a railgun (if it's even there and depending on the base).

In ctf the amount of health and armour available to attackers is massive compared to what you'll find in other gametypes and defenders die alot more seldom than attackers (which means they have to go to railgun spawn every time there is a break between attacks). To me it seems like CTF wasn't factored in to equation when altering the railgun. Sure 5 ammo will work in 1v1 and to some extent in tdm (still very little damage in weapon pickup with 450dmg compared to 1000 in rl etc), but it really screws defenders in ctf.

Edited by Erk at 22:22 CST, 7 February 2007

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fojji - Reply to #249

alot of assumptions in there. i'd say the def would have a pretty hard time against 3 attacking railers regardless of dmg/ammo. and congratulations to the attackers who managed to find 3 RA's in one attack.

in addition to that, under the 15-20 seconds your rail fight takes place, about 20 ppl will spawn in the attackers faces.

Edited by fox at 22:29 CST, 7 February 2007

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Erk - Reply to #250

how do you need 3 red armours to take 2 railhits to kill a player in q4 with 90dmg/rail and 100dmg health countdown limit? pretty much takes not getting lower than 95hp before getting into base, and one guy is freshly spawned, picks up a red armour or yellow and a mega. Rail fight doesn't take 15-20 secs, attacks seldom last more than 10 secs, however with 5 ammo you will most likely run out during the fight or be aprox empty if one attacker manages to grab your flag, pretty much leaving you with mg to chase with.

Edited by Erk at 22:39 CST, 7 February 2007

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fojji - Reply to #253

well from you description it sounds like its just a rail sniping fest and no one goes for the flag, in which case the fight will take a while and people will spawn in. in reality, in ctf, players always grab some shards or their health hasnt counted down to 100 yet so even with rail damage 100, players rarely died from one rail. and to think that a defender has 5 rail ammo and then has to resort to mg is just unrealistic :) btw railgun spawn is usually in the flagroom.

then again, im no ctf expert :)

either way, its the same for both teams. the best team still wins ;)

<< Comment #265 @ 22:58 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mik3d - Reply to #260

tdm > ctf

<< Comment #623 @ 08:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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[spectator] - Reply to #265

Lies!

Edited by [spectator] at 09:00 CST, 8 February 2007

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ini - Reply to #260

Yeah they get hit by one rail on the way in/from the flag then ten million seven damage machine gun bullets from /kill'ers in the midfield :'(

<< Comment #278 @ 23:06 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Erk - Reply to #260

dmg is not the problem, ammo on pickup/having to constantly pick it up is. It's really not much of a problem on attack, as you seldom spend 5 rails. Also must runners will be running so fast that rockets have very little effect unless you are in their path.

Edited by Erk at 23:08 CST, 7 February 2007

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Thormam - Reply to #278

the rail "nerf" is needed - allthough you say there is normally 2 defenders - you forget to mention the fucked up spawn system there is on q4ctf maps "hint to SyncError"

There is seldom 2 defenders - its more like 2 defenders with armor and rail and then 2 newly spawned attackers helping out.

The attacker (if he wants to kill his way in and out) has to kill both defenders and all the spawns of attackers AND defenders respawned to get out.

Thats why 90 dmg rail is perfect in terms of gameplay in ctf which will make it harder for defs - which is needed to balance the def vs. att

And now we can use crouchsliding better around corners as well because of the new hitboxes!

If you can make ID software change the whole spawnsystem they have made for ctf - I would consider your arguments again. So lets just say 90 dmg is here to stay :)

<< Comment #378 @ 03:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #373

And now we can use crouchsliding better around corners as well because of the new hitboxes!

oh so true. you did need to say that to make me realise it :)

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Erk - Reply to #373

Where have I complained about 90dmg? It's the 5 ammo that is the porblem. I would rather have 75dmg and 10 ammo than 100dmg and 5 ammo. What I'm concerned about is not having running out of rail ammo (unless you pick it up 24/7) when attackers have enough.

Edited by Erk at 09:54 CST, 8 February 2007

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Carillo - Reply to #668

The horror, opponent might actually touch your flag! But what a relief it is that as a countermeasure, your team's attackers will have enough armor and railslugs to bring em enemy flags home, ain't it! :D

For more serious argument, read my reasoning below :)

Edited by Carillo at 12:46 CST, 8 February 2007

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Carillo - Reply to #278

I don't understand what your concern is, frankly it seems like you're forgetting the whole essence of CTF, it's a team-game, not a bunch of skilled duellers trying to protect RA. Team-game means even a team of "bad" players can click well enough to take out their superiors. This means gaining upper hand in manpower where it's needed, be it homebase or escorting the flag, there's absolutely no reason to try and compare "old" team-setup under new conditions, making new standards is more fun. In other words, in much shorter way : CTF will always adapt.

<< Comment #453 @ 05:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kautzy - Reply to #260

nah, in the end it's always you who wins :(

;-)

Edited by kautzy at 05:07 CST, 8 February 2007

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Anonymous (c-24-20-156-51.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) - Reply to #249

not very concise, but I agree that rail damage/ammo doesn't seem to a great fit for ctf.

<< Comment #283 @ 23:24 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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ix - Reply to #249

Yes because a whole mode being based around rail only was clearly a good thing.

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wata - Reply to #283

haha x)

<< Comment #292 @ 23:42 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #249

Actually it is a great idea. Less rail hording defenders and other use of weapons is a good thing. Make the game one of strategy instead of who has the best rg percentage.

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KM - Reply to #292

I cannot express in words how much I agree with you. It is a pet hate of mine to see defenders who can only use one weapon (the rail) and are shit with all the others, but still be an 'effective' defender.

This will sort the good defenders from the great defenders, I hope.

Massive [+] for you Lilie.

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<< Comment #379 @ 03:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #377

as massive as your [+] can be :)

<< Comment #501 @ 06:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #377

helped you out a little ;)

<< Comment #258 @ 22:48 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Larvi

L O L L E R !!!!!!
Setup has detected that you already have Quake 4(TM) 1.04 or higher installed.
You do not need to apply this patch.
Click OK to exit the installer.
.... Sync hlep plx!

Edited by Larvi at 22:57 CST, 7 February 2007

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ini - Reply to #258

You had it all this time mate and you didn't tell anyone the features!?!?

<< Comment #287 @ 23:32 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #258

At a guess

Start

run

regedit

HK_local_machine

Software

ID

Q4

On the right look at the bottom for version. Change it 1.3.
Save that then retry installing the patch.

Before trying that ou could try RE-INSTALLING 1.3 which should tell the game in uninstall it.

<< Comment #289 @ 23:38 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #287

They installed the wrong patch. A mirror had linked 1.0.4 instead of the 1.4.0 patch.

<< Comment #302 @ 00:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #289

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1328044#pid1328044

Busted!

<< Comment #314 @ 00:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #289

yes sir i am guilty .. apology was made (#266) as soon as i realised what i had done (was half asleep) :(

Edited by ESR|Nicky at 00:51 CST, 8 February 2007

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Dird - Reply to #314

why u up so early? dont ur kids have a day off skool coz of the snow

<< Comment #651 @ 09:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #465

im up about 6 everyday, even holidays and snow days

<< Comment #676 @ 09:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #651

WHY?!

<< Comment #686 @ 10:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #676

duno i always have done :) before i had the kids i had to get up that time for work then i had the kids and they always woke at 6:30 when they were babies... old habits die hard i guess

<< Comment #696 @ 10:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #686

have a kitkat

<< Comment #698 @ 10:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #696

ty muchly

<< Comment #620 @ 08:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #314

uhm..just gonna toss something out here as well. You have kids and a husband, but you really seem to be spending an awfull lot of time on (just) xsr. Just saying you might regret it one day..life really is too short to be refreshing forums, and gaming is such a little and insignificant part of your life when you have a partner, for not to talk about when you have kids.

<< Comment #654 @ 09:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #620

... what i do i my business :P i dont sit here 24/7 as you say i have kids (they come first) and im not as stupid to have a bloke ;)

and in all fairness i have nfi who you are so how do you know what else i do apart from esr?

Edited by ESR|Nicky at 09:32 CST, 8 February 2007

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Shaddap - Reply to #654

Easy, wasn't meant to be hostile or anything.
I have no idea what nfi is, yet another pointless abbrevation i suppose. But no, I don't know what else you are doing, just see you write a lot here, that's all.

<< Comment #688 @ 10:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #684

maybe because its my "job"

<< Comment #707 @ 10:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #688

k

<< Comment #876 @ 13:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Vidda - Reply to #707

no f***ing idea btw

<< Comment #932 @ 16:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #620

o noes, the internet social welfare brigade

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<< Comment #1029 @ 21:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #932

rofl

<< Comment #1334 @ 07:11 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Shaddap - Reply to #932

fuck off and spam some other posts, apparently you are good at that...

<< Comment #1335 @ 07:33 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #1334

hehe, calm down big ears

<< Comment #261 @ 22:55 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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mik3d

So is there a difference in openal vs non openal now sync?

<< Comment #535 @ 06:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #261

There still is, of course. As for telling the difference with the original software stereo, I couldn't quite put my finger on it. Maybe you'll have more luck.
If you wanna test, set s_earSeperationAlgo to 1 to revert back to the previous software sound, more info in the cvar description.

Edited by hemosaek at 08:03 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #264 @ 22:57 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Nicky

oops i linked the wrong file (sorry to anyone who dl from Levi when i first added it) :s

<< Comment #277 @ 23:06 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun

public beta is nice, but i have the size of these upgrades, it break my legs, 256kb tt

<< Comment #554 @ 07:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #277

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte

there u go :P

<< Comment #687 @ 10:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun - Reply to #554

u got the idea :p

<< Comment #293 @ 23:46 CST, 7 February 2007 >>

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Maylee

I would be so bold to suggest people make sure you are playing on a dedicated server for testing. Listen servers are a temporary test at best, they do not ever display the game properly as a dedicated does, at least this is my experience in development with Delta CTF, and was told so by all my programmers as such.

<< Comment #298 @ 00:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold

This should have been Q4 1.0.

<< Comment #299 @ 00:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz

My dreams comes truth.

Oh and is it possible to unlock g_gunX,Y,Z cvars for q4base 1.4Full patch? I will appreciate that very much!

Edited by crossthecerealkiller at 00:11 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #300 @ 00:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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eoe.d1ablo

nice to see >100 fps!
finally i can use higher accel. movement and 180�turn are so "free" now.
also better simple items now

<< Comment #934 @ 16:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #300

finally i can use higher accel.

explain.

<< Comment #938 @ 17:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #934

Accel depends on the frames I think ? So more frames = Better accel repsonse?

<< Comment #301 @ 00:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Twist`

Better late then never!

My PC can't handle q4 though and Q3 is still fun so I'll postpone it for now :)

<< Comment #463 @ 05:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #301

How can you have something that is both late and never?

<< Comment #481 @ 05:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #463

How can you misinterpret such basic comprehension?

<< Comment #490 @ 05:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #481

You are wrong.

<< Comment #624 @ 08:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #490

No I'm not.

<< Comment #663 @ 09:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #624

Oooooh yes you are.

<< Comment #746 @ 11:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #663

It's behind you!!!

<< Comment #1013 @ 19:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #746

You shitter, i nearly looked.

<< Comment #596 @ 08:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #481

lol thick

<< Comment #626 @ 09:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #596

Stop speaking spudnik and try and improve your grasp of english.

Go learn about "Idioms" and come back when you can process basic information.

Edited by Jamerio at 09:08 CST, 8 February 2007

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Liam - Reply to #626

He replied to me. I'm not even sure if you both understand that he said "better late then never". I read it exactly as he wrote it so he is saying something should be late, then it should be never. I was taking the piss as I know what he meant was "better late than never" which makes sense.

It was a joke.

<< Comment #648 @ 09:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rolf - Reply to #630

He don't get 'stuff'

<< Comment #700 @ 10:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #648

he make me lol so much i <3

<< Comment #713 @ 10:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rolf - Reply to #700

lol same

<< Comment #795 @ 12:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #648

Apparently I don't too as Yeltsin replied to Jamerio :).

<< Comment #1005 @ 19:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #795

I have to pointlessly troll Yeltsin from time to time. its tradition :=)

<< Comment #673 @ 09:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #463

had to read his post a couple more times to understand what you meant :P

<< Comment #305 @ 00:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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m2rtz

We need new version of Qmax then it will be perfect

<< Comment #306 @ 00:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Vayne

Need good maps!

<< Comment #308 @ 00:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #306

Umm.. CMP anyone?

<< Comment #309 @ 00:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #308

ihni :o

Edited by SyncError at 00:33 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #468 @ 05:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #309

<# THWAK

<< Comment #470 @ 05:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #468

omg ihniykat <# THWAK!

Edited by SyncError at 05:39 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #476 @ 05:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #470

roflechips....

the ninja star to the heart spreads!

ihni

<< Comment #674 @ 09:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #476

weirdos

<< Comment #736 @ 10:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #674

They're not weird, they're just too much for simple heads like yours and mine to comprehend.

Edited by Nafets at 10:57 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #732 @ 10:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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phantazm11 - Reply to #476

w00t

<< Comment #313 @ 00:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Vayne - Reply to #308

Dont need any cramped maps! lol

<< Comment #323 @ 01:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #313

lol cramped there are lots of maps that arent cramped :/

<< Comment #1039 @ 22:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Vayne - Reply to #323

Well there are some with low ceilings which no quake map should have unless its a sp map.

<< Comment #307 @ 00:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Veritas_

Thanks! Respect.

Edited by Ver1tas at 05:18 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #311 @ 00:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wari

awesome! where are all the q4tv whiners now? hehe. I wonder what else they have up their sleeve for 1.4 full

<< Comment #312 @ 00:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Lith

good stuff, but too late to save the community in Australia =(

might be able to watch some games now tho

<< Comment #315 @ 00:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SoAndChobe

AUSTRALASIANS UNITE!
WE NEED MORE SERVERS!

gg with the new patch as well.
looks fkn good

<< Comment #322 @ 01:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wch - Reply to #315

Im sure GameArena (Melbourne) and SlashQuit (Sydney) will have servers up... if not for the beta, for the real deal.

<< Comment #344 @ 02:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SoAndChobe - Reply to #322

new zealand has one server lol

i ping over 50 to aus servers, so not really ideal

<< Comment #383 @ 03:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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gk_nz - Reply to #344

do what I did and move to sydney, much better for playin online games :)

<< Comment #320 @ 00:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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gk_nz

ID have definitely wow'ed me with this one.... massive, if this was what quake 4 was at release then it would be a huge game I would think, alas it's not but better late than never I suppose.

I'll be interested to see how weapon's handle now and see if things like the hyberblaster etc are more useful. Hahaha aim whores suck on them apples!

I wonder how the CPL will react to this as well... will be very interesting to see. =P Will they take on quake 4 now? Will using the quake 3 engine for severity be a mistake.... oooo so many interesting questions lol.

And how long is this patch remaining beta?

<< Comment #337 @ 01:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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eoe.d1ablo

I got a bug with jumping after teleporting on phrantic, for example:
if i _jump_(not waking) in to teleporter i cannot jump to ya(after) anymore.
that was possible before.

�dit: looks like its only not possible in q4base... with mod it is as before

Edited by a-L.MSI | d1ablo at 01:53 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #677 @ 09:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #337

phrantics tele seemed fine, monsoon and placebo were bad tho.. dont worry, the bugs known and will be fixed (if not already)

<< Comment #338 @ 01:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz

Quake 4 is fine, for the most part.

Now all it's lacking is a Q3ish lean, and some gibs.

<< Comment #355 @ 02:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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BooTes - Reply to #338

Yeah, definitely gibs.

<< Comment #387 @ 03:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #355

I mean come on, man. Gibs.

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<< Comment #341 @ 02:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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CratoS

It looks good. Let's hear the sound! =D

<< Comment #342 @ 02:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs

OMG WHAT DID I MISS ?!

I just woke up, ran Firefox ---> ESReality.com , and suddenly my eyes became like this:

o_O

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<< Comment #345 @ 02:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #342

Breakfast and a shower should solve that. :P

<< Comment #346 @ 02:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #345

I usually don't eat breakfast. It sucks :D

<< Comment #362 @ 02:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #345

ah good idea

gtg. bb

<< Comment #381 @ 03:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Amp - Reply to #345

cold shower

<< Comment #366 @ 03:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hebi-fly - Reply to #342

same to me.

omfgroflmao

nice nice nice nice *install*

<< Comment #502 @ 06:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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nahraq - Reply to #342

same to me. I saw "q4 patch beta" and was like "oh, fine.. finally"

then I started reading the features and went from o_o to O_O to ((O))___((O))

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<< Comment #743 @ 11:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #502

((O))___((O)) ?!

What the hell are you?!

<< Comment #758 @ 11:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #743

A Cacodemon?

<< Comment #782 @ 11:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #758

I don't think so, they've only got one eye.

<< Comment #791 @ 11:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #782

Oh shit, how did I forget that ?! ?! ?!

Haven't played Doom for some time :(

<< Comment #799 @ 12:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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koyaan - Reply to #743

bug eyed

<< Comment #589 @ 07:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #342

I actually lol'd at that :P [+] for you

<< Comment #343 @ 02:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Lukas

Finally, good job!
When will the final version be released? Estimates?

<< Comment #348 @ 02:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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chzzen

seems like placebo needs a fix with the TP at red :(

<< Comment #347 @ 02:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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jokah

wow! wake to find this done also! bril!!! gonna try it out right now :D

<< Comment #351 @ 02:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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TimJones

@Sync: The patch is nice and I love to play it. But there are some things missing in this patch: new Models and just a cool gibs and blood animation like in Q3.

Is there a chance that we will see that in the final patch or forthcoming patches? That would be great!

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<< Comment #356 @ 02:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr

way2doit! Thanks Synccieeeee <=]

<< Comment #359 @ 02:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hydra

I am amazed. I haven't tried it yet, but just reading the changelog made my jaw drop. Great work! I might actually give Q4 another try now.

<< Comment #363 @ 02:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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oxi

Q4.Jolt 1.4 Public Servers.

* 213.208.119.119:28005 / jolt.co.uk - (v1.4) DM #2 (Popular Maps)
* 213.208.119.120:28005 / jolt.co.uk - (v1.4) CMP - Submissions

Some of our servers will remain 1.3 as our CTF league will remain 1.3 until 1.4 becomes a final release.
We may make more 1.4 if we see that the 1.3's aren't being used :)

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<< Comment #364 @ 02:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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oxi - Reply to #363

Oh yes, and our download link for the patch if anyone wants it..

http://www.q4.jolt.co.uk/index.php?page=downl...mp;id=6917

<< Comment #511 @ 06:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #363

one 1.4 CTF server would be great =)

<< Comment #365 @ 02:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire

Nice changes, however seeings the hitboxes are smaller and rail pickups are only 5, I would suggest keeping the rail @ 100 damage otherwise instead of balancing the railgun you're eliminating it.

Edited by diabz at 02:58 CST, 8 February 2007

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Cobs - Reply to #365

Or go back to 10 ammo...

<< Comment #418 @ 04:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #392

maybe seven ammo would do the trick :)

<< Comment #454 @ 05:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #418

Or to come to a typical swiss compromise with 7.5 ammo :D

<< Comment #512 @ 06:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #454

to be authentic, there would need a public vote then ;)

<< Comment #524 @ 06:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #512

Exactly :p

<< Comment #421 @ 04:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #365

A 50+ damage hitscan rifle over infinite range will never be eliminated or obsolete.

<< Comment #503 @ 06:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (84.158.98.190) - Reply to #365

Lowering rail damage isn't a big change. In most cases you need two shots to kill someone regardless wether rg has 90 or 100 damage. id listened to the community but i think the real change to make rg harder is the new hitbox and lowered ammo (and maybe better netcode :))). Possibly DM with many players on the server where you really have a prob to find some armor or hold your health will be better.

<< Comment #897 @ 15:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #365

Probably no problem really =P

<< Comment #372 @ 03:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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opti

No.... this can not be! This is too good to be true! This is perfection itself! Everything I wanted to change changed!

And I would kindly ask the people who now whine about q4 being sucky or q3 being better at this joyous moment to drop to the floor and die a horrible slow death. This also counts for the people who actually think it should be 100 dmg railgun again. :/

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<< Comment #376 @ 03:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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noctis - Reply to #372

:/

<< Comment #382 @ 03:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #372

havent seen a real whine post here anyway

<< Comment #458 @ 05:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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raphox - Reply to #372

instead of dying by a horrible death, they should leave Q3 and finally move forward to make Q4 community bigger :>

<< Comment #469 @ 05:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #372

But Q4 WAS shit, now it might be better, dunno to be honest. I hope it does though, to be honest, the main thing for me now is how slow it runs with no real reason, maybe that's fixed, next time I have 2GB free I'll check it out.

<< Comment #738 @ 10:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #469

slow? lol?

<< Comment #749 @ 11:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #738

as in low fps, choppy? lol

<< Comment #775 @ 11:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #749

as in thats ur problem and not q4's prob? lol?
=]

<< Comment #800 @ 12:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #775

Not really, when you knock down the graphics to the point of using vertext lighting then what's using all the CPU usage? Just because it's newer doesn't mean it has to be ridiculously inefficient.

<< Comment #375 @ 03:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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raithza

time to reinstall

<< Comment #380 @ 03:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Thormam

* si_fps server setting allows server administrators to customize the
game tick rate. Default is set to 60 fps, which is consistent with
previous releases. If set higher, server and clients will tick faster,
allowing for tighter input control and higher FPS.

You have to make sure however that server and clients connected to the
game have enough CPU power to keep up. We recommend leaving this to LAN
and competition games only.

Its not possible to set the server to 125fps and still let the clients control their own maxfps? If not make it happend for the final verison of 1.4 or that function is worth nothing at all.
Not even for LAN as you mention becuase who wants to prac for an event with 60fps and when you actually play the tournament you suddently has 125fps - quite a difference :)

let the servers set 125fps and let the clients control their own fps cap so everyone can play stable q4 (like everyone controlled it the same way in q3 when not everyone had 125fps hardware)

IF its possible - excuse me for not reading it correctly (I hope I did)

<< Comment #681 @ 09:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #380

i dont think its possible.. thats one of the main reasons they didn't want to uncap it in the first place.. but as long as there are 60fps and 125fps servers you can just choose.. or just upgrade ur pc so u can play on em all like im doing :p

<< Comment #835 @ 12:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Thormam - Reply to #681

my HW is 125fps - but that doesnt help if noone wants to play on a server with that setting

<< Comment #839 @ 12:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #835

HW? and believe me, more ppl will want to play on the 125 servers than 60.. i know i will especially when i upgrade

<< Comment #840 @ 12:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #839

oh hardware.. well don't test it out on a empty server, even my pc gets constant 125 in an empty server.. but when theres at least one other person playing it drops lower and lower

<< Comment #1058 @ 01:33 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Thormam - Reply to #840

ya its not the map itself that kills our FPS - its the damn models and shooting...

<< Comment #390 @ 03:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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N0NAME

Oh my god! Congrats Sync and ID ! It's nice to see that our opinion counts and you guys listen us! Keep up the good work and Quake 4 will own! I just can't wait for the 1.4 final and Q4MAX.

<< Comment #385 @ 03:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark '

is the demo playback issue still present?
do you have to have all the pk4's from the server which was recorded on?

someone should make a thread with all the small features missed out in this beta, so they can be in the final:

* unlock g_gunX/Y/Z cvars
* r_fastsky [0,1] cvar

<< Comment #1046 @ 23:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (68.220.255.7) - Reply to #385

demo_enforceFS 0

<< Comment #388 @ 03:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka

At least seems the true Q4 demo is up, late, but up. I can't wait the official release. :>

1-Thank You for fixing, better now than never but :
2-NEVER AGAIN a Q4 or D3 story : now we all know you know and you can.

Going to reinstall.

<< Comment #391 @ 03:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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drum4t1c

Q4TV - it sounds great... so the other new features

<< Comment #395 @ 03:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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�Guru�

Just downloaded it, And had a quick test... And to be
honest it's kinda nice! :-)

<< Comment #396 @ 03:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy

soon it will be cpl's move again:)

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<< Comment #402 @ 03:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire - Reply to #396

hope so

<< Comment #398 @ 03:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire

10/10 for a beta patch

<< Comment #400 @ 03:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Xsi

i would like to say that the new soung algorithm is a great change ;)

<< Comment #413 @ 04:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte

it would be truely great if id would make a "q4 1.4 q4tv" freeware package which is able to connect to q4tv only servers for watching :) so no playing allowed ^^

Edited by morbyte at 04:21 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #426 @ 04:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hydra - Reply to #413

yea if that would be possible, I think it could lead to lots of sales $$$. and a growing community :)

<< Comment #590 @ 07:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #413

Kind of like they are doing in CnC3? Very cool idea.

<< Comment #414 @ 04:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Vajra

Cool beans.

I�ll wait for the final + max 0.78.

<< Comment #417 @ 04:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sAid

who cares

<< Comment #514 @ 06:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #417

...did he ask after 418 comments

<< Comment #710 @ 10:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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puma_ - Reply to #514

417 :(

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<< Comment #740 @ 10:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #710

ok, I [+] you

<< Comment #423 @ 04:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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N0NAME

It would be nice that you could select from within Quake 4 which sound card you want to use. Let's say you have a USB Headsets that you want to use only with Quake 4 and rest of programs with your speakers! This could be very usefull

Edited by N0NAME at 04:31 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #419 @ 04:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky

if anyone has a server they want adding to the post imsg me and i will add them

<< Comment #422 @ 04:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold

Is it possible to lower the view height perhaps, the perspective still annoy me to no end?

<< Comment #430 @ 04:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naaarf

omg, i'm spraying cum everywhere!!

<< Comment #429 @ 04:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (csknet-84-234-32-232.csk.pl)

eh in window mode 70-100 fps and smooth , fullscreen 60fps and slow motion like 20fps :/ what's wrong :/ in 1.3 stable 63 fps in duel
athlon 64 3000 @ 2.2ghz , 1gb ram, radeon 9800pro

<< Comment #439 @ 04:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #429

you have vsync + 60Hz. ;)

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<< Comment #464 @ 05:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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pogo - Reply to #439

thx !!!!!!! it helped :)

<< Comment #428 @ 04:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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LuGia

Thats it im starting q4!

(if i start something it dosent mean i wont continue cpm, ofc cpm will always be the realdeal. :D)

Edited by LuGia at 13:47 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #431 @ 04:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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.syL - Reply to #428

NOOOOOOOOoOooooooooo :D

<< Comment #441 @ 04:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #428

wohoo [+] for you :)

<< Comment #515 @ 06:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #428

NERF LG!!!!

<< Comment #634 @ 09:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mikedie - Reply to #515

stfu

<< Comment #649 @ 09:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #634

SAMRT

<< Comment #731 @ 10:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #634

do you need to play Lugia first? ;P

<< Comment #737 @ 10:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mikedie - Reply to #731

stfu

<< Comment #433 @ 04:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fooKi

I don't get 125 fps :(

amd64 4000+ 1gig ddram geforce 7900 GTX

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<< Comment #436 @ 04:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #433

r_forcaambient
fps is much much better in q4max

<< Comment #437 @ 04:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fooKi - Reply to #436

ok thanks (i used forceambient tho) :(

<< Comment #900 @ 15:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #437

You probably need a dualcore cpu and r_usesmp 1 = P

<< Comment #493 @ 05:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PuX - Reply to #433

i feel like +ing you for whatever reason.

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<< Comment #517 @ 06:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #433

i tried it on my laptop and i got 125fps stable while just running around alone through various maps. haven't tried it in a real game yet. 1.8ghz Intel Core Duo (the older ones), 1gig ram, 7400 GS Go which pretty much sucks. 640x480, forceambient 1. i was getting 125 with both usesmp 1 and 0.

<< Comment #519 @ 06:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fooKi - Reply to #517

strange

well i have 1 gig ddr but its just 1 slot (had 2x1gb but 1 of em died). u think that would kill a lot of the performance? I suck at computers :)

<< Comment #520 @ 06:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #519

im no hardware expert either but i don't think that would matter too much. i'm quite surprised that you're not getting a stable 125 with that gfx card.

<< Comment #901 @ 15:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #520

The gfxcard hardly matters when forceambient on, memmory shouldn't matter to much eather. It's all cpu.

<< Comment #564 @ 07:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #519

no that wont matter much seeing as amd doesnt make much use of dual channel, intel on the other hand does.

edit: or see below, missed that myself ;x

Edited by kevz at 07:19 CST, 8 February 2007

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Cobs - Reply to #517

It's only CPU power with a half modern gfx card at that resolution and low details and with forceambient 1.

And the Intel Core Duo's are quite fast.

@fooki
AMD A64 CPUs are quite RAM speed dependant, therefore dual channel RAMs at low latency times would give you some FPS boosts. Whereas Intel CPUs aren't that RAM speed dependant...

Edited by Cobs at 06:43 CST, 8 February 2007

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fooKi - Reply to #527

thank you

<< Comment #559 @ 07:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #548

You�re welcome.

I'm actually upgrading my A64 3500+ CPU to a A64 4600+ dual core CPU, as the socket 939 ones are getting sold out. I should (hopefully) get it by the end of this week and could tell you if it gives a huge FPS boost or not...

<< Comment #741 @ 10:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #559

mmm i got the 3500+ is that a bad thing?

<< Comment #783 @ 11:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #741

I will tell you ALL (if you plus me :D ) if it did improve the FPS so massively as I assume. I guess I will get around 50% more FPS with a X2 4600+ at 2600Mhz compared to a 3500+ at 2400Mhz.
My other specs: Nvidia 7800GT and 2x512MB Corsair XMS C2

Q4 is all CPU power when you have at least a medium class gfx card.

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rzr - Reply to #783

tell me! =P

<< Comment #879 @ 14:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Bozo - Reply to #783

i went from a 3200+ to a 4200+ duelcore and kept everything else the same (evga6800ultra256, 1gig ram) and i boosted fps amlost 30% if i had to guess and settings went from 800/600 low quality to 1024/768 high quality.

<< Comment #747 @ 11:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #559

tell me too, plz cause I'm thinking about the exact same move. And there's nothing like have a guinea pig to test it ;)

<< Comment #784 @ 11:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #747

see post above ;)

<< Comment #813 @ 12:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #784

EXTORTION :<

but I got no choice I guess ;(

<< Comment #977 @ 18:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #784

damn should have waited and kept my plus

<< Comment #1064 @ 02:59 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #977

lol why? I will post my results when I got the cpu ;)

But if you don't wanna have it, i don't really need to do it :D

<< Comment #1066 @ 03:12 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1064

no, plz do it ;)

just that Bozo gave his results for FREE... :P

<< Comment #790 @ 11:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (host-84-9-92-209.bulldogdsl.com) - Reply to #559

I just got myself a 4600 x2 am2 along with gig of ram and an x950xt

It handles q4 at 125 fine in dueal or a few ammount of players.

Only got it yesterday and only just played my first couple of games of q4 in about 6 months.

I probably notice the difference more coming from a 2800+ athlon and 6600 agp

<< Comment #811 @ 12:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #790

Hey my setup is 2700+ with a 6600 GT :D

Gonna upgrade soon... maybe.

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HamidoOs - Reply to #559

Some news for you :>

AMD is about to cut the prices of their processors in a week or so. Take a look at new prices:
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37509

They've not mentioned the socket ,though. (939 or AM2)
I hope it helps :)

<< Comment #806 @ 12:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #797

Stupid AMD did stop the production of S939 X2 CPUs and therefore those ones (probably) wont get cheaper.

<< Comment #814 @ 12:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #806

I know they don't produce 939 anymore. Just thought the price will drop.

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stripy - Reply to #797

thats like ~7% for a x2 4200 (-14$), dont think i'm that patient:)

<< Comment #1164 @ 11:02 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #1160

I thought you might go for a 4400+ :)

Edited by HamidoOs at 11:04 CST, 9 February 2007

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stripy - Reply to #1164

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20070122VL203.html
was going on this link tbh.

Edited by stripy at 11:33 CST, 9 February 2007

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anal justice - Reply to #527

Core Duo's are quite slow if you ask me. They are P4 based after all. The Core 2 Duo line is another story though.
And yes, fooki's bad performance is a result of the single memory channel. He should buy another 1GB wafer :)

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<< Comment #562 @ 07:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #556

ashr was talking about a Mobile Core Duo which is a fast one and NOT based on the sucky Netburst P4 architecture, therefore your comment isn�t true ;)

But yes fooki should have dual channel RAMs�

<< Comment #567 @ 07:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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anal justice - Reply to #562

right, yonah (if i am not mistaken) is quite fast :)

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<< Comment #575 @ 07:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cobs - Reply to #567

yep the mobile core duo before the core 2 duo has the codename Yonah and is quite fast ;)

<< Comment #633 @ 09:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shay - Reply to #433

WHY YOU DONT HAVE SK GEAR?

<< Comment #670 @ 09:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fooKi - Reply to #633

uhh aah ehh i mean intel and ati stuff, thats what i have... uuhh aah

<< Comment #691 @ 10:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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TheGunSlinger - Reply to #670

Opps :-)

<< Comment #434 @ 04:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PuX

sooo arQon? AnthonyJ?

<< Comment #475 @ 05:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #434

Q4MAX will be out soon enough...

<< Comment #492 @ 05:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #475

17 mins?

<< Comment #494 @ 06:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PuX - Reply to #492

hope so

<< Comment #438 @ 04:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bldr

gotta luv sync and the guys from ID for waiting with the patch until now, because obviously it rocks :D

now go die all you h8ers

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<< Comment #442 @ 04:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stier

thx!

<< Comment #446 @ 04:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg

Not sure if this has been answered, and it's not in the change log. Is true lightning an option now. Can I actually see some of my lag with the LG yet? That was one of my big complaints.

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<< Comment #459 @ 05:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Infamous - Reply to #446

no sadly you cant :(
but patch is nice anyway

<< Comment #447 @ 05:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer

finally,let's give q4 another try

<< Comment #451 @ 05:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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koyaan

wow im impressed ^_^

<< Comment #478 @ 05:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Doser

90 dmg for rail... fix that pls! (hitboxes are enough...)
knock back force from rocket should be higher too (I want air rockets)
and... gibs!

<< Comment #685 @ 10:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #478

after many games last night i gotta say they the bounceups feel more common and higher.. new hitboxes ftw

<< Comment #1268 @ 13:42 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #478

Go play q3...that's the best patch you can possibly install.

<< Comment #483 @ 05:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tzz

After testing it a bit: it's awesome. Congrats to id and SyncError for caring, listening to the community and making this possible. It still lacks some antilag for us highpingers, but it's actually a really good game and a game I would like to play.

A little suggestion: unify bob cvars like Q4Max and add a brightskins toggle in the GUI.

Also, as someone said ETQW and Q4 were benefiting each other, I suppose ETQWTV will eventually be released, which makes me want it even more :P

<< Comment #484 @ 05:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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[TA]STiNGS

What I�m still missing:
- Models! MODELS! We still need models! :X
- Get rid of the stupid to-the-console-and-back-to-game jumping when connecting/starting game
- 125fps @ default + customizable for client

<< Comment #521 @ 06:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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BugTomek - Reply to #484

regarding models:
http://planetquake.gamespy.com/View.php?view=...&id=62

and some otheres here:
http://www.supermodels.nl

<< Comment #539 @ 06:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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[TA]STiNGS - Reply to #521

I like the second site slightly better... X))

<< Comment #486 @ 05:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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H-A-R-M

Q4 > q3

<< Comment #488 @ 05:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy

does si_fps affect ping?
i'm not pretending that i understand:), just worried that if the server has i.e. 125, will that lag me?

<< Comment #510 @ 06:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #488

anyone?
and if so, wil by caping from my end resolve that?

<< Comment #542 @ 06:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #488

If the server runs too high a tickrate, it will lag for _everyone_, so that's a start :)

<< Comment #496 @ 06:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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elbo

bridge to rail is easy yet :D
good Patch!

<< Comment #491 @ 05:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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H-A-R-M

Q4 > q3

<< Comment #497 @ 06:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q

BRIGHT SKINS BY DEFAULT PLEASE!! I help poor little shits every day sort out bright skins on quake4. Until they know about it they think i (and most others) cheat. These are the people you need to attrect and keep, but if its unfair straight off the bat then they are gooooone.

Edited by fur*q at 06:03 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #516 @ 06:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jabberwackey - Reply to #497

Agreed!!

<< Comment #541 @ 06:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz - Reply to #497

Now we need Custom Model Contest *(CMC) powered by ID Software and SyncError. Somewhere outthere are a lot of tallented 3D modelers. And this is good opportunity how to draw attention to oneself to obtain good job in some gaming company or advertising agency.

"A:Yeah, I also made player models for Q4 MP.
B:Oh yeah, ? Good good. You have that job"

<< Comment #565 @ 07:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (cpe-24-90-148-98.nyc.res.rr.com) - Reply to #541

I'm game... great idea!

<< Comment #1033 @ 21:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #541

Hey, that's a very good idea, I think. : P

<< Comment #582 @ 07:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0 - Reply to #497

I know I have bright skins set and then set my own skin to the darkest hardest to see just so noobs who dont have it set cant see me as well as I can them. LOL its gay but not my fault!

<< Comment #692 @ 10:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #582

its ok, we understand.. you need all the advantages you can get :D

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CR0C0 - Reply to #692

Correct +

<< Comment #498 @ 06:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Slickan

Swedish 1.4 Beta server added: Quake4All #5 Duel (Tourney) 83.226.147.217:28004

Running at si_fps 125 currently.

<< Comment #500 @ 06:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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starscream

increase the rg ammo to 10 in ctf

<< Comment #665 @ 09:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #500

Learn another gun.

<< Comment #757 @ 11:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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starscream - Reply to #665

i don't need your advice in ctf thanks, i can use anything

<< Comment #845 @ 13:06 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mart33N - Reply to #757

even zeh deadly penzi ?

<< Comment #1011 @ 19:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #757

You wanna play the same game type the exact same way for ever ever and ever ever ever? Well i'm sorry miss jackson.

<< Comment #504 @ 06:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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impulseBE

some more 1.4 beta servers:
GUNK public beta 1.4 server 1 @ 83.96.201.230:28004
GUNK public beta 1.4 server 2 @ 83.96.201.230:28005
GUNK public beta 1.4 server 3 @ 83.96.201.230:28006
GUNK public beta 1.4 server 4 @ 83.96.201.230:28007
si_fps 125 ofcourse

Edited by impulseGUNK at 06:21 CST, 8 February 2007

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Troll - Reply to #504

its safe to remove bliptourney.

<< Comment #506 @ 06:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss

Gogoo 1500 comments :>

<< Comment #523 @ 06:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Six16

holy shit, thats a great list of additions!

gg id n sync

/goes to play!

<< Comment #529 @ 06:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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unkn0wn

Rail idea: 50 damage, but double firing rate. Damage per sec will stay the same, but rail and run will only be half as effective...

<< Comment #536 @ 06:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #529

ultrono arena?

<< Comment #570 @ 07:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #529

sounds like ut2004's shock rifle primary fire, and that's no good.

<< Comment #528 @ 06:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz

Today I will quake4tilldeath.

<< Comment #533 @ 06:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Veritas_ - Reply to #528

Me too :DDDDDDD

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #533

You just pulled a Ver1tas.

<< Comment #1274 @ 14:23 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Veritas_ - Reply to #1269

fool

<< Comment #1293 @ 15:20 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1274

Stop posting! You've got lots of beta testing to do!!

<< Comment #537 @ 06:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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j0k3r

\o/

:)

<< Comment #543 @ 06:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark '

found some visual bugs regarding the simple items near the "lava" from Phrantic:

1,2,3

it also seems that the normal health bubble has clipping issues when lava is in the background: 4

10$ per bug plz!!11 ^_^

Edited by Aquashark at 06:57 CST, 8 February 2007

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noctis - Reply to #543

thats like an ULTRA old known bug.

<< Comment #555 @ 07:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #551

had no idea.. didn't open Q4 lately and it wasn't reported on the Q4 bugs thread

Edited by Aquashark at 07:11 CST, 8 February 2007

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noctis - Reply to #555

thats know since the release of phrantic.

<< Comment #581 @ 07:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #558

haven't noticed it in WSVG vods and they were using g_simpleitems 1.

<< Comment #694 @ 10:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #581

i have

<< Comment #546 @ 07:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shqdow

THANK U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #549 @ 07:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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BooTes

About time Q4 Beta is here :-)

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<< Comment #552 @ 07:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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m2rtz

No qmax yet ?

<< Comment #566 @ 07:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Culan

looks like there is a bug with the hitboxes or somefin

if you aim on the hand and gun of the enemy, you will get blood effects on screen but no dmg

<< Comment #560 @ 07:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs

@Sync:
-I was expecting hitboxes to be shorter as well as thinner. The view height has remained unchanged :(
-The footstep sound is still annoying.
-Also I thought LG & NG's max ammo would be changed :/

But anyway, nice patch. gj id :)

<< Comment #759 @ 11:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #560

Lowering the height of the hitbox allows it to go places in maps (yes I'm talking multiplayer maps not single player missions) that the mapper never intended them to go. The height issue is a matter of preference, and I don't think we want to create problems just because Raven chose to make the models more accurately proportional instead of using squattier Q3 style models.

<< Comment #771 @ 11:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #759

I'm more concerned about the fact that all maps feel small just because of this issue. The same issue is present in CS:Source and CS 1.6 players were really pissed off because of this. (CS be damned, I just made an example)

Being realistic is something, being a pro game is something else. I hope id learns from these mistakes.

<< Comment #812 @ 12:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #759

Well we can already use pm_normalviewheight (Or whatever) to change at least the view height, would be nice if this could work across all servers etc. Like a simple Q3/Q4 switch :/

<< Comment #1094 @ 04:50 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #759

A lower view height would rock! It just feeeeels so much better.

<< Comment #1270 @ 14:14 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #759

Sounds like you think everything q3 is garbage, "dwarf hitboxes", "inbalanced railgun" and whatnot...does it pisses you off when you realize about 15 times more people play q3 even if you think it's garbage?

This whole brand new "id Q4 attitude" doesn't really helps the quake community when you consider that there's probably a good reason why people still play q3 even after what...8 years?

Instead of downgrading the things that made q3 an obviously better game, why don't you guys try to stick with the good stuff of the past games (weapon drops in q2 and q3's physics) and make sure it's still part of the engine of the "next" game?

I mean, all the extra work you guys have put in since q4's been released is respected, but how hard is it for the casual noob to go play a game of q4 online nowadays? The average noob has to install about a zillion patches and manually do another zillion tweaks just to be on par...especially considering that id labelled q3 as it's "biggest failure" because of the fact that it wasn't noob friendly cause of all the manual tweaks necessary to compete? Well I'm sure it's way easier for the average Joe to setup q3 and play online than it is to join a q4 server and that's what's really retarded about the situation when you think about it.

This is not a flame or anything, it's just the opinion of the average hardcore q3 fan who can't really understand all the blah blah about q3 having flaws.

I personally think q3 is the best game ever made and when I realize that the company who created it thinks it's garbage and that it's sequel is supposedly "better" when in fact nobody plays it, becomes kind of confusing, to say the least.

Q4's not a bad game, but it's obvious it's not as good as it's predecessor and never will be. until then, many of us will stick to id's "failure" and enjoy the game we love, the way quake used to be, and what made the series so popular.

<< Comment #1277 @ 14:25 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1270

Wow you're way off base! =D

Quake III Arena is one of the best games ever created. Its a master piece not just among arena games, or FPS games, but among software in general.

Just because we're trying to improve Q4 does not mean that we do not absolutely love Quake 3. I'm glad that it still has a community, I hope that people play it for years on end, much like the existing QuakeWorld and Quake 2 communities.

<< Comment #1295 @ 15:30 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1277

Well that's good to hear. In order to make a good sequel, I think you need to carry on with the things that made it's predecessor so good. Keep up the good work, I think the quake community should consider itself lucky to have a guy like you, as long as we don't get labelled as "q3 funboys!!1!" everytime we speak our minds.

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<< Comment #561 @ 07:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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impulseBE

visual bug:
when shooting someone's gun model with the mg at a certain angle will result in no dmg but blood splattering over the place :D bluebug!

<< Comment #587 @ 07:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #561

Perhaps du to the hitboxes : you touch the model but this part don't fit inside hitboxe ?

A wish : cl_showhitboxes 1

Edited by Jazka at 07:57 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #652 @ 09:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wviperw - Reply to #587

g_showCollisionModels 1?

<< Comment #573 @ 07:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c83-250-107-80.bredband.comhem.se)

Once I've installed the beta, when I shall start I just get a
"error during initialation" msg, help? :)

<< Comment #592 @ 07:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cbs - Reply to #573

same here, HELP! :)

<< Comment #595 @ 08:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #573

Do not run mods, they're likely not 1.4 compatible yet.

<< Comment #597 @ 08:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shqdow - Reply to #573

same :(

<< Comment #690 @ 10:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #573

i got that 2, a fresh install of q4 did the trick!

<< Comment #827 @ 12:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Megro - Reply to #573

That's because the patch install created an extra Quake4 in your Quake4 dir just copy paste everything inside it to one dir higher ...

i.e content of d:\games\q4\Quake4 dir to d:\games\q4

<< Comment #571 @ 07:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (imamz152.Mathematik.Uni-Mainz.DE)

hh thy just make it more equal to q3
but they never get the q3 engine or the many nice models
and the nice look of the weapons

q3>q4

<< Comment #627 @ 09:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #571

sure, everybody know that graphics = gameplay

<< Comment #574 @ 07:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shady

this game still feels like shit. I will give it another try when pickups are on 1.4, but I dont believe that will change my POV. its still so random.

<< Comment #683 @ 09:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #574

so random ? why ?

<< Comment #719 @ 10:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shady - Reply to #683

because. I cant really explain it, it feels like movement is random, weapons are random........i dont know. its not smooth

<< Comment #931 @ 16:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wakka - Reply to #719

hahaha.....

<< Comment #1271 @ 14:17 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #931

I agree.

<< Comment #576 @ 07:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cbs

omg

<< Comment #578 @ 07:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sama

Finally, now Quake 4 steps out from the predecessors shadow - hopefully it will find its complete expression!

<< Comment #580 @ 07:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0

Looks good on paper ,cant wait to test her out.

<< Comment #593 @ 07:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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outlaw

i almost had fun in q4 for the first time, but the netcode saw otherwise

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<< Comment #734 @ 10:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #593

it can still be fun, admit it!

<< Comment #755 @ 11:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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outlaw - Reply to #734

perhaps on lan, but not otherwise :/

<< Comment #768 @ 11:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #755

quick, go pro

www.telnet4proandnohax.com :>

<< Comment #826 @ 12:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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guts - Reply to #755

try using net_clientprediction 0 in q4base ;)

<< Comment #602 @ 08:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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unkn0wn

gj now just cg_trueLightning pls :)

<< Comment #960 @ 18:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #602

YES PLEASE SOON!

<< Comment #598 @ 08:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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krid

\o/ 17mins are up :)

<< Comment #599 @ 08:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata

clipping textures on bloodwork (at other places too, easy to spot them)

btw, SyncError should start a "beta patch 1.4 bugs" thread

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<< Comment #704 @ 10:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #599

that bug i have all the time since 1.0 ... no q4 1.3 bug...

<< Comment #760 @ 11:13 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #599

I'd rather have only one thread to check thank you.. this one will do just fine.

<< Comment #881 @ 14:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Bozo - Reply to #760

well the bug i was trying to show you is an old and possibly known bug. if you have rl out and fire a milisecond b4 you switch to rail,(so press fire and switch to rail at the same time basically) you will fire a rail out of your rl, and if you hold fire down after that you will fire rails later than your rail animation. hard for me to explain and i would love to show you sometime. im in #deltactf if you are interested.

<< Comment #766 @ 11:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #599

I figured the r_forceAmbient is causing it. Without it, it doesn't clip in that way.

<< Comment #600 @ 08:13 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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oX

nice, gonna give it another try now :))

<< Comment #601 @ 08:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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d00med

what was the 'additional updates' part in the installer

<< Comment #603 @ 08:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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flu1d

"decreased railgun damage"
"consistent shotgun spread"
"better netcode"

wow, sounds like they are getting closer and closer to becoming cpm.

<< Comment #604 @ 08:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire

the jumping out of tele's needs to be fixed

Edited by diabz at 08:15 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #607 @ 08:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (p54B3F33E.dip.t-dialin.net)

Another Bug: http://intoxx.net/cgi-bin/q4/q4bug.JPG

<< Comment #638 @ 09:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #607

only happens when speccing i think, i noticed it too.. but not a major bug at all

<< Comment #656 @ 09:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MUNG>esh - Reply to #607

mind posting your cfg?

<< Comment #606 @ 08:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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X-term

Sounds all good, but where can I find all the commands and stuff of q4 default. I couldn't find them in any readme and I'd like to test the demo with the lowest system requirements and green enemy's :)

<< Comment #667 @ 09:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #606

I havn't really understood what you want, but you should find it here :
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/Quake4Guide.htm

<< Comment #679 @ 09:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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X-term - Reply to #667

found it ta :)

What I meant was, I wanted a list of commands for vanilla q4 as the mods ain't updated yet.

<< Comment #614 @ 08:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bLaz

nice to see all these fixes and changes but... HEY ITS TOO LATE

<< Comment #615 @ 08:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #614

for whom, whiners? :)

<< Comment #646 @ 09:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #614

So you tell me that if you had a race car and you lost a race because of some defaults the car had you wouldn't fix it because you lost that one race.... or will you fix what you know made you loose the race and race again with the same car.

c'mon pls. ID has fine tune there car and are getting ready for the race to play again.

Edited by xchaser at 09:24 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #762 @ 11:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fern - Reply to #646

thats a terrible analogy

<< Comment #1272 @ 14:20 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #762

especially considering the fact that the #3 car has a better engine <3

<< Comment #617 @ 08:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stunt.us

It's the 21st century. They don't make games to please anymore. Only to market and sell. Good games are a thing of the past. There might be some here and there by dumb luck. Otherwise stop whining about errors and fixes. I've seen this same thing go on in the BF2 community since day 1. I'd be suprised to ever see a computer game without any patches needed ever!

<< Comment #745 @ 11:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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way2ez4gtv - Reply to #617

I've seen this same thing go on in the BF2 community since day 1.

n1 m8 cracked me up

<< Comment #753 @ 11:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #617

sif any battlefield version was ever bugfree...

<< Comment #798 @ 12:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #753

that's the point. They won't ever fix everything or make a game without huge bugs anymore :\

<< Comment #618 @ 08:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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woosh

ey, we want cg_truelightning ..

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<< Comment #962 @ 18:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #618

I'll reply to every one of these. Please put true lg option in. Like OSP/CPM where you can choose like .25 as well.

THANKS

<< Comment #622 @ 08:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sub_

so, from how i understood, everybody who can't get a stable 125 fps is basically fucked?

<< Comment #637 @ 09:19 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #622

true, they should get a job ASAP and buy a computer!!!

<< Comment #639 @ 09:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #622

or hope for 60fps servers

<< Comment #706 @ 10:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #639

think about all the whining about 60fps vs 125fps.. hilarity will ensue!

the Quake4 correspondent of VQ3 125fps vs CPMA 76fps physics flame wars ^_^

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<< Comment #625 @ 09:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zerox

awesome patch

keep the good work up
:)

<< Comment #635 @ 09:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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facz

Boss im so sick cant come work...sorry :)

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<< Comment #642 @ 09:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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snzStorm_ru

1. How much does it weight?
2. Is there a patch 1.3 -> 1.4 ? I have retail Quake4v1.3 by "1C".

<< Comment #644 @ 09:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mikedie

so there is pmove advantage for those who get 125fps now ?(like in Q3)
or is the movement equal ?
coz i don't think i get constant 125fps in tdm :/

<< Comment #963 @ 18:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #644

no

<< Comment #647 @ 09:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zine

Nice !

<< Comment #658 @ 09:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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MUNG>esh

anyone having r_displayrefresh not sticking? it keeps getting wiped from my cfg.

edit: /q4mp

i see...

edit2: worked on map reload but once i vid_restart displayrefresh is wiped from cfg in ../q4mp as well and cant change it in mp.

Edited by pumpkin_ at 10:07 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #772 @ 11:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #658

Create an autoexec.cfg with r_displayrefresh.

<< Comment #660 @ 09:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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oX

I like the game better now, let them mods come :D

<< Comment #664 @ 09:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Larvi

CHANGE LIGHTNING GUN AMMUNITION TO 200 MAX JUST LIKE IN Q3 !!!!!

<< Comment #669 @ 09:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire - Reply to #664

yes, and fix teleport jumps

<< Comment #671 @ 09:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bottleofsmoke

great news. one question:
if server is @ 125 fps, is it obligatory for the client as well or can the client still chose his own fps settings?

<< Comment #697 @ 10:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #671

client is forced to use server's maxfps

<< Comment #703 @ 10:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bottleofsmoke - Reply to #697

thx dude

<< Comment #672 @ 09:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zine

Finally i can start playing q4!!!

<< Comment #675 @ 09:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

* addition of net_clientUsercmdPacking. client->server traffic is sent
once every net_clientUsercmdPacking frames. This reduces the
client->server traffic, and increases the predict ahead slightly.
Setting is ignored for LAN games.
Pre 1.4 behaviour is net_clientUsercmdPacking 1

w00t!!! AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEE

<< Comment #678 @ 09:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Xeon

All I can say is...: Thank you! Feels like Q4 is going to be much more successful. Grats ID Software, keep up the good work. :)

Edited by Xeon at 09:52 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #1273 @ 14:22 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #678

I bet...maybe 25 people will play it...worldwide.

<< Comment #1336 @ 07:56 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Xeon - Reply to #1273

You're so boring... :/

<< Comment #1353 @ 21:26 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1336

Why? Cause what I say is true?

<< Comment #680 @ 09:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

About everyone going crazy for 125fps, wouldnt 120 be a better standard? Coz monitors work@120hz, 125 comes from the fps dependant osp physics...

<< Comment #699 @ 10:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #680

i think you're right

<< Comment #709 @ 10:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #680

I tried setting it to 120 but it kept showing 125... Dunno.

<< Comment #712 @ 10:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #709

you need to reloadengine etc for it to take effect :)

<< Comment #742 @ 10:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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voodoochopstiks - Reply to #712

No, I never set it to 125 at all. si_fps 120 and then spawnserver.

<< Comment #773 @ 11:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #742

Think of how framerates "snap" in the other quakes.

<< Comment #789 @ 11:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Despair - Reply to #742

It's because com_showfps is extrapolated from the amount of time it takes the engine to render 1 frame, rather than an actual count of fps rendered in 1 second like hud_fps in q4max. And since the engine can only render frames in time frames of integer values, it wouldn't ever show 120fps because (1000ms/120fps) = 8.333...ms, whereas (1000ms/125fps) = 8ms. If my understanding of how the engine works is accurate.

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<< Comment #856 @ 13:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fett - Reply to #789

+ cuz you seem to be from tech support

<< Comment #964 @ 18:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #789

Step aside mam, he is from the internet.

<< Comment #689 @ 10:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss

100 hz @ 1024x768 @ Vsync ON
FTW ;)

<< Comment #695 @ 10:13 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist

Was thinking about which whine to post about this new patch and it finally came to me:

BIG MODELS PLEASE! !1
MEH WANTS KEEL AND TANKJ!!!11
Q3<3 > Q4 etc
Seriously tho, why don't they just implement some of the bigger strogg SP models into MP? Shouldn't be that hard. Sync?

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<< Comment #711 @ 10:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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noctis - Reply to #695

YES FFS PLS :/

<< Comment #718 @ 10:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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bab - Reply to #695

i want less detailed models for more fps, ctf is a pain in the ass fps-wise

<< Comment #776 @ 11:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #718

no i think we just need better pcs to play on hgh fps servers

<< Comment #886 @ 15:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #776

No. Id needs to stop making shit engines.

<< Comment #887 @ 15:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #886

you say that like they've always made shit engines.. before doom3, all their engines were the best :P

<< Comment #899 @ 15:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #887

Yea, that's what I mean. They need to stop making shit engines.

<< Comment #927 @ 16:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #695

FEMALE models in base would be keen.

<< Comment #936 @ 17:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #927

ihni!

<#

<< Comment #980 @ 18:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #936

I demand to hear what this means by the final release or else I'll file 100 random bugreports!

<< Comment #1098 @ 04:57 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #980

its ini, just pronounced

<< Comment #1116 @ 06:30 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1098

yeh, and <# is way2, just pronounced and THWAK obviously means troll ;)

<< Comment #1117 @ 06:39 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1098

That's not true :< no H when saying it.

<< Comment #1129 @ 07:22 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #1117

lies iiiiiiiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhni

<< Comment #1275 @ 14:23 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #695

Because the engine is shit and doesn't allow such things.

<< Comment #705 @ 10:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zine

I hope they do this on the Q5 release version... ^^

<< Comment #729 @ 10:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dude

wait. whats goin on? is the patch out?

<< Comment #744 @ 11:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #729

Um, yes. And its crammed full of goodies ;)

<< Comment #778 @ 11:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #729

liar

<< Comment #708 @ 10:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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sin000

Let's re-install Q4 ;)

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<< Comment #804 @ 12:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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chuky - Reply to #708

yeah let's reinstall 1.3

<< Comment #714 @ 10:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Ukjsatiy

The bad: High dpi mice still explode when doing quick movements
The good: the higher fps caps effectively fix this
Pet peeve: The autoswitch on running out of ammo is still there, and is still a pain in the arse :}

<< Comment #722 @ 10:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #714

"The autoswitch on running out of ammo is still there, and is still a pain in the arse"

I second that (i.e. you're firing all your HB ammo and BAM you fire accidentally a rail shot -missed shot of course- , and then you're a dead man)

<< Comment #777 @ 11:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #722

i always hit my accidental rail shots for some reason :D

<< Comment #717 @ 10:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll

Alot of people were generous enough to refrain from reviewing Q4 until id software have worked on it and released 1.4. This has now happened and id software has had more chances than they deserve to turn around this game. Yet it still feels beta and proberbly won't stand a chance against other multiplayer games being released this year.

<< Comment #726 @ 10:47 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Slasher - Reply to #717

you are so fucking stupid

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<< Comment #733 @ 10:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #726

incorrect.

<< Comment #785 @ 11:49 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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3xcon - Reply to #726

proberbly

<< Comment #1276 @ 14:25 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #726

Well I'd bet my pants he would make a better shoutcaster than you.

<< Comment #727 @ 10:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wata - Reply to #717

"Yet it still feels beta"

Sir, you're a genius, cause this is a beta patch
kthxb

<< Comment #730 @ 10:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #727

1.4 beta yes, but its feels like beta before 1.0

<< Comment #793 @ 12:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #730

no not really, it feels beta'ish but its far better compared to 1.0

<< Comment #858 @ 13:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #730

Well, it will always feel like beta if you are playing on a fucking 486

<< Comment #862 @ 13:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #858

C2D, 8800GTX

<< Comment #1278 @ 14:25 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #730

So much beta stuff in here...I think my computer is turning beta.

<< Comment #750 @ 11:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #717

can you just stop making arguements, its getting boring already

<< Comment #751 @ 11:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #717

DUDE STOP THE FKING WHINE IM GETTING SO FKING ANNOYED BY EVERY POST IN THIS NEWS ITEM BY YOU

<< Comment #770 @ 11:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #751

click "ignore" u dumb ass.

<< Comment #752 @ 11:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #717

Troll whats your best game you like right now?

<< Comment #756 @ 11:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #752

Trolling esr?

<< Comment #1279 @ 14:27 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #752

The quake game more people play than any other quake game?

<< Comment #830 @ 12:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Amp - Reply to #717

Seriously, did you wake up this morning and tell yourself, "U NO WUT? IM GUNA TROL ESR N BITCH ABOT Q$!!!! MEBE NU PATCH IS OUT SO I CAN BITCH EVN MOAR!!!!!!111"

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<< Comment #832 @ 12:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #830

LOL

<< Comment #877 @ 13:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #830

monumental

<< Comment #1120 @ 06:46 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #830

I'm kinda replying to everybody who replied to this post, but I'd just like to clarify that you all know his name is fucking "Troll" right?

This is the biggest shock since I figured out that fire burns.

<< Comment #891 @ 15:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #717

If I hadn't have already been told I would guess you're Jubs.

are your posts serious, or are you living up to your name?

<< Comment #951 @ 17:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #717

Again.... W8 for Q4max :)

<< Comment #728 @ 10:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (dslc-082-082-173-117.pools.arcor-ip.net)

Q4 1.4 + Q4Max features = finally we get the real 1.0 version. :)

<< Comment #735 @ 10:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #728

I wouldn't go that far lol

<< Comment #754 @ 11:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets - Reply to #735

noone twoll fwiend anymore ;(

<< Comment #761 @ 11:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (68-114-7-88.dhcp.gsvl.ga.charter.com)

It would be nice if u could change ur r_displayrfresh in MP.

Mooshu

<< Comment #780 @ 11:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #761

just use a program like reforce or nvidias settings to force the highest refresh for each resolution

<< Comment #763 @ 11:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Pheto

AIDS

<< Comment #764 @ 11:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Pheto - Reply to #763

AGREE

<< Comment #765 @ 11:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Pheto - Reply to #764

I LIKE

<< Comment #767 @ 11:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Pheto - Reply to #765

NAAAAAJZSZSZ

<< Comment #769 @ 11:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nuked User - Reply to #767

* N U K E D *

<< Comment #1059 @ 02:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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hkrep - Reply to #769

wil je gebanned worden ofzo :<

<< Comment #794 @ 12:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz

maybe this is a normal thing, i kinda forgot but...

sometimes when i press a bind for a weapon nothing happends, why cant it be like q3 and 'queue' up after the current weapon is done reloading :(

<< Comment #801 @ 12:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (p548F071D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)

Wow, big Thanks to Sync Error. Couldnt try it yet, but changelog sounds great.

<< Comment #802 @ 12:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr

uhm mmm im having a negative accel with my mouse anyone else noticing this?

<< Comment #807 @ 12:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #802

me too

<< Comment #818 @ 12:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #807

wondering whats causing it u got any idea?

<< Comment #852 @ 13:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #818

no DirectInput I assume :<

<< Comment #855 @ 13:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #852

but why in 1.4 and not in precious versions

<< Comment #859 @ 13:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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forn1x - Reply to #855

I have it too

<< Comment #894 @ 15:35 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #859

I was helped by that:
http://escapedturkey.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3768
Try it too.

<< Comment #1136 @ 08:04 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #818

What kind of mouse do you use? =P

<< Comment #1140 @ 08:25 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1136

I spy with my little eye...
...something beginning with...
...C
:p

<< Comment #1141 @ 08:27 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1136

mx518 =)

<< Comment #1162 @ 10:58 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1141

Try 400dpi =P
I had a 518 for a wile and it got some negative accel on 800+ dpi but very little on 400 dpi.

<< Comment #1210 @ 17:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1162

i always use 400 =(

<< Comment #1213 @ 18:23 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1210

Well then it's odd =P

<< Comment #1235 @ 01:29 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1213

yea very! Im 100% sure its the patch thats causing it ^^ but im gonna try copperheads sollution later

<< Comment #1280 @ 14:28 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1162

!noob alert!

<< Comment #1294 @ 15:21 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1280

Huh?

<< Comment #1296 @ 15:33 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1294

Go do your beta testing...NOW!!!!

<< Comment #1302 @ 16:40 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1296

Huh, will you stop wasting my time with useless replys?

<< Comment #1304 @ 16:55 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1302

Huuuh sorry, I know you're a busy man...you've got to beta test a game which has been released 2 years ago.

<< Comment #1306 @ 16:58 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1304

I'd sugest you learn to count before making claims about how old things are, and learn to read before making claims about whats beeing tested.

<< Comment #1307 @ 17:01 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1306

lol...you're really as dumb as a fucking rock, are you?

<< Comment #1339 @ 09:12 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1307

You got bullied much or something?

<< Comment #1354 @ 21:27 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1339

0_o

<< Comment #1366 @ 09:29 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1354

Well, I guess ignore is my friend.

<< Comment #810 @ 12:17 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (dslb-088-073-109-193.pools.arcor-ip.net)

Q4max HURRYYYY

<< Comment #805 @ 12:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer

it's just me or ping seems to affect fps? on my laptop with T2400 and 7900GS I can play the game ubersmooth at 125fps... but on the internet it's a lot more choppy
then without openal I can' t really hear the provenience of sounds and in teamplay it's impossible to distinguish teammates and enemies' footsteps

<< Comment #809 @ 12:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #805

in q4 ping and fps ahve always been connected. and for the distinguishing ur enemys and teamys... thats not possible unless idsoft adds some sort of metal legged model wich they wont do i guess :p

<< Comment #815 @ 12:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #809

yeah the ping-fps problem was the main reason for me to stop playing cause it was awful to play ec on servers >=50 ping
I hoped that the issue was solved, but it didn't and with all the other things playing tdm in these conditions really sucks...

<< Comment #817 @ 12:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #805

u played on listed right...

<< Comment #819 @ 12:27 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #817

on listen and on dedicated in lan, 125 fps and smooth feeling
on jolt and gunk server, ping 50+ and choppy game

<< Comment #820 @ 12:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #819

pb?

<< Comment #823 @ 12:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #820

active in both I guess, don't remember if the internet servers had it, surely in lan it was enabled

<< Comment #950 @ 17:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #823

pb is disabled on our servs :<

<< Comment #959 @ 18:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #950

So it's all about q4 netcode, because I found that the game finally was smooth (fps wise) for me with less clients connected

<< Comment #968 @ 18:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #959

Well remember, this IS beta, and its NOT Q4MAX yet. I'm not gonna try it until it's OFFICIAL and Q4MAX updates...because until then it won't feel like it should IMO...Hopefully this comes soon.

<< Comment #829 @ 12:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire - Reply to #819

same for me

<< Comment #808 @ 12:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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chuky

There's been a glitch since the first version, I can't believe it wasn't corrected after more than a year. In your hud behind the hp there's a cardiogram, but it doesn't stop when you're dead. It just shows how they care of their game.

Also why can't we change r_skipambient in game ? Do the physics depend on that too ?

Edited by chuky at 12:17 CST, 8 February 2007

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<< Comment #816 @ 12:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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mahmoodsdotjpg - Reply to #808

i hope you're joking here

<< Comment #822 @ 12:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fooKi - Reply to #808

yea thats why i stopped playing

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<< Comment #870 @ 13:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #822

haha

<< Comment #896 @ 15:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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erthx - Reply to #822

hahahahahahha pwned!!

<< Comment #1043 @ 22:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #822

And people complain about my gibs. : P

<< Comment #833 @ 12:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #808

the force is strong with this one.

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<< Comment #837 @ 12:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #833

replace force with french tbh

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<< Comment #957 @ 17:59 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #837

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1325904#pid1325904

Have you a problem with french people ? A french guy stoll your girlfriend or something ? ��

Edited by Jazka at 18:01 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #842 @ 12:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #808

maybe it's a negative heartbeat!

<< Comment #848 @ 13:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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deathinfire - Reply to #808

i'm coming over to france to smack you in the face

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<< Comment #866 @ 13:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #808

r_skipambient is not what you think it is, and just like a good number of other variables people insist on "tweaking", you should leave it alone. :)

<< Comment #872 @ 13:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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chuky - Reply to #866

I know what it is but with the gamma bug it's the only way to have more than 10 fps on placebo effect for example

<< Comment #874 @ 13:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #808

What makes you think its a cardiogram? Its actually a seismogram showing an earthquake, hence the name. Therefore, not a bug. :)

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<< Comment #884 @ 14:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #808

you made me laugh, and you�re french
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<< Comment #895 @ 15:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #808

Thank you for bringing this important issue to my attention.

<< Comment #923 @ 16:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (h0d936d16e0.dhcp-tex.umassd.edu) - Reply to #895

the pulse rate should increase if you get haste or something too

<< Comment #926 @ 16:41 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #923

Omg good call. You saved us from some potential embarrasment.

<< Comment #942 @ 17:24 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #926

No, the pulse rate should slowly decline till Q4 is dead, beacause I think today it reached its peak and is still shabby.

<< Comment #944 @ 17:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #942

If it reached its peak today, and it started off on a bad foot then...

...that would mean that its not in a decline (and that even a troll can see that).

<< Comment #948 @ 17:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #944

Strictly speaking, decline would proberbly happen in a few months. Btw, is 1.5 planned?

<< Comment #949 @ 17:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #948

haha 1.4 isn't even done yet and they ask for a 1.5....

<< Comment #952 @ 17:43 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #949

the ungrateful bastards!

<< Comment #1028 @ 21:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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g0th - Reply to #949

not they... Troll is asking

<< Comment #1038 @ 21:51 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #1028

I know. ;)

<< Comment #1062 @ 02:37 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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TheGunSlinger - Reply to #948

/me pokes troll in the eye with a stick

<< Comment #1115 @ 06:29 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1062

So you did both eyes then? Same stick?

<< Comment #1040 @ 22:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (user-0c2i7iq.cable.earthlink.net) - Reply to #926

when you get fragged it should do that james-bond thing where red drips down to over it, and if you get gibbed it should explode! i am done.

<< Comment #1044 @ 22:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #926

Hardly anyone would notice that, but the people who did would be like..."hey, that's cool shit."

I've always liked that feeling, though.

<< Comment #1281 @ 14:30 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #926

I don't think you can be saved anymore...

<< Comment #1282 @ 14:32 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1281

ihni

<< Comment #1303 @ 16:48 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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wviperw - Reply to #1282

I have no idea what ihni stands for... somebody care to enlighten me?

<< Comment #1305 @ 16:57 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1303

I have no idea.

<< Comment #1367 @ 15:49 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #923

would make sense if haste was renamed "speed".

<< Comment #821 @ 12:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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galahad

Haha...

I was wondering why a patch release would get that many comments. Never looked into it, but saw a news on crossfire that Q4TV has arrived.
The title here is so misleading .

Anyways - Yay!

<< Comment #841 @ 12:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #821

how is it misleading it IS Q4 1.4 beta ...

<< Comment #878 @ 14:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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doYdY - Reply to #821

not just arrived, but has shoutcastability too!

<< Comment #824 @ 12:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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CLains

Huh..?? Does 125fps work fine now?

<< Comment #843 @ 12:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #824

yeah if ur pc can handle it.. its only server side though.. clients are forced to use the server's maxfps

<< Comment #854 @ 13:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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CLains - Reply to #843

sounds neat

<< Comment #825 @ 12:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr

your bugs email adress isnt correct because i cand send ya bugs it said

<< Comment #831 @ 12:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Burpy - Reply to #825

Yeah, my e-mail came back as well.

<< Comment #834 @ 12:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #825

of course its fake, u really think id are gonna spend anymore time on this?

<< Comment #836 @ 12:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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retire

LAN is smooth and no portal jump bug but online is fecked for me atleast

<< Comment #846 @ 13:09 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Dhillon - Reply to #836

I have that portal jump bug on lan

tried to do the portal jump on monsoon onto the mega health

<< Comment #844 @ 13:04 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shay

q4 is still a dead game. well see how ut3 will do.. :/

<< Comment #847 @ 13:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #844

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&forum=24

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<< Comment #849 @ 13:12 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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m2rtz - Reply to #844

UT3 wont be better than q4 it needs even more powerful pc and ther for not so many players can handel ut3

<< Comment #1018 @ 19:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ichigo - Reply to #844

and UT3 seems that it will be more focus on SP

<< Comment #853 @ 13:20 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (port-87-234-114-223.dynamic.qsc.de)

q4beta coz they care about feedback.
ID took gameplay changes, wich q4max would never do they just support optimizing.

not the quickest support holds a game alife, the leaguez do it, and for 2007 q4 ISNT death. Much big organziations of gaming support at least now (or will) q4 1on1.

ooooh dear q3, its time that cpl realize q3 isnt that game for the future

I hope tdm will also get back and have again a chance... it rox! :)

To the comments about dwarf community, i cant say the q4 community is growing.

#SN.q4pickup had in the last weeks again new peeks of users, so i dont worry about seein new players in the future :)

<< Comment #857 @ 13:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz

F*cking LAGFEST! I played 1 hour and I must say. Something went wrong.
At jolt it was terrible (si_fps 100)
on Gunk it was better but not perfect (si_fps 125). I know its hardware depending.

<< Comment #860 @ 13:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #857

also wait for mod :)

<< Comment #861 @ 13:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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mindz

Quake4 TV, cool.

<< Comment #864 @ 13:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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zsc

can you server admins please use pm_useCylinder 1 so we can play with the new hitboxes?

doesn't matter if 1 is default if the servers still have it on 0 in their cfg's

<< Comment #865 @ 13:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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facz

was better but not perfect ? what game is perfect tell us plz. What ping did u have 2 the servers ?

<< Comment #882 @ 14:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz - Reply to #865

Perfect in terms of "no lags". Use reply button. I played there with ping 40-50 like always. I just feel that 1.4beta is more not smooth "jerky".
And it`s not a problem with my uber computer(C2D@3400,8800GTX,2GB Geil Ultra 8000 @1000Mhz DDR2, 2 150GB Raptors).

<< Comment #904 @ 15:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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PreD|ru - Reply to #882

Did u stole that from NASA? :DD

<< Comment #911 @ 16:01 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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crozZz - Reply to #904

They stealing from me often.

<< Comment #943 @ 17:28 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #882

The 8800GTX drivers are still beta. Works much smoother on my weaker graphics cards.

<< Comment #867 @ 13:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (p54B3F33E.dip.t-dialin.net)

Is it normal that 1.4 is totally laggy??
I get often yellow spikes ...suxx hard:
http://intoxx.net/cgi-bin/q4/q4lag.JPG

<< Comment #880 @ 14:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c27-72.icpnet.pl) - Reply to #867

can you send me your cfg file. [email protected]

<< Comment #869 @ 13:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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nOv1c3

si_fps 125 server setting is great if you have the hardware , But i,m afriad if too many servers run it ,That well just alienate even more players

Q4 has a steep hardware requirements and the majority of people playing now are strugling for a steady 60 fps and thats with alot of tweaks :/

new netcode sounds promising i hope the new code smooths things out , I shall wait for the final and all the mods get updated before i try it

<< Comment #871 @ 13:45 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #869

yep, i vote for buildin configs, like q3 used to have.. or had, im not sure :P

add some cfgs that really turn off every visual thing for max fps and that sorta thing.

<< Comment #873 @ 13:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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GreenBastard - Reply to #869

The 125 sv fps should become the new standard asap for q4 to have any future.

ppl upgrade all the time. If you cant afford a �1k pc you should spend more time earning money or spending time on ur education rather than playing games. If you have a 5yr old pc you have no business playing q4, go play the far superior qw.

the only advantage q4 has is its new tech, lets push things forward not settle on lame comprimises.

<< Comment #885 @ 14:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #873

i upgraded before q4 came out to be sure it runs perfectly .. guess what it didn't which I did not expect .. so i don't really feel like pumping even more money into the game.

<< Comment #892 @ 15:23 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shay - Reply to #885

no one else is , so why should you. :)

<< Comment #972 @ 18:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #873

You sir, are dumb.

<< Comment #868 @ 13:40 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Mart33N

felt smooth like a babies behind or whatever you pedofiles prefer!

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<< Comment #890 @ 15:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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veal

this kicks ass, thanks!

<< Comment #908 @ 15:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hebi-fly

900 comments! n1 :D

Q4!!!!!

<< Comment #913 @ 16:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #908

and not even 24 hours yet :| (50 were probably mine though)

<< Comment #903 @ 15:53 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nafets

wish I could play with just 60fps until I upgrade... This beta patch is fantastic, apart from this.

<< Comment #935 @ 17:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #903

Can I ask what you CPU is?
Q4 needs a powerful CPU. I don't get much FPS boost when I lower the resolution to 640*480 !

<< Comment #961 @ 18:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Jazka - Reply to #935

I got more FPS with 1024*768 than lower. Should be a standart gfx card support. You should try.

Edited by Jazka at 18:11 CST, 8 February 2007

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Nafets - Reply to #903

Pentium D 820

two 2.8ghz

Not great it seems...

1gb of ram, geforce en7600gt

<< Comment #905 @ 15:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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LuCky Lu

<3 id software =)
Great patch.

<< Comment #906 @ 15:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey

Anyone notice now with 1.4 and vsync on your fps is stable (min and high) while vsync off it can drop to as low as 20 fps and jump as high as 125 fps on an si_fps 125 server?

Give it a try here:

Server Name = turkeyfiles.escapedturkey.net
Server IP = 72.5.249.161:28004

si_fps = 125

Not pimping the server, just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this strange vsync'ness. With vsync off, you can get as high as 125 FPS but the gameplay is very inconsistent -- it goes from fast to slow and fast depending on the FPS.

We need a com_maxfps variable client-side?

<< Comment #974 @ 18:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #906

We definately need a client side max FPS cmd...it's not fair to force whatever rates onto lesser computers.
I bought TOP OF THE LINE computer when Q4 came out, I normally get a pretty solid 60fps, but it drops sometimes...so with 125...theres no way imma be solid 125...I probably won't even touch 125. ill be between 40 and 100...
AMD3200
GF7800gt
Better then what A LOT of ppl who will be playing Q4 has....So please...Client side FPS CAP?

<< Comment #1181 @ 14:07 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #906

was a blast yesterday man. I'm loving those maps.
r00ster?

<-- cd\f0cus

<< Comment #907 @ 15:56 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SyN

While I have to say that all the things id has done to try and fix the game are great, the fact remains that it shouldn't of gone out like that in the first place.

Having said that, q3 was not perfect when it was released either, and it took some time before it finally was the game it is today, even then the preferred way has, for the most part, been to play either OSP or CPM.

Bottom line is this, id has never been especially keen on providing great multiplayer games, although they make some great engines on which great games have been created or modded.

Everything that id has done, from making the first 3d shooter to the MP aspects of the game have been awesome, but I still don't fully believe that they are committed to making a solid competitive platform for gamers.

Why? Because it did take so long to get this type of stuff to us, because they already had a very successful game to go off of, because I know they read these forums and I've seen several suggestions about early beta and alpha testing by pro-gamers, even if to create a different mode just for pro gaming.

Bottom line is you're going to sell a zillion copies either way, but long term return, the kind you got from other successful titles, was not present in either doom3 or q4.

I hope you guys understand that while I am not being a cheerleader, I do think the patch is wonderful. I'm just throwing out some constructive criticism in a vain attempt to reach someone :p

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<< Comment #909 @ 16:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^

all we need now is g_nomip cvar <3

<< Comment #1143 @ 08:45 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #909

q4max 0.78 :>

<< Comment #912 @ 16:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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storm

Everyone please remember that just because we used 125fps in Q3 doesn't mean we need to use it in Q4. Since si_fps will cause extremely high bandwidth usage and computer hardware strain it might be a good idea to try something lower, I'd say si_fps 100 would probably be a very high but good amount to try.
Didn't ut2004 use 83fps? I remember playing that and never noticing the fps difference between that and quake 3.

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<< Comment #914 @ 16:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #912

it's not the FPS difference, it's the hertz that you notice.

<< Comment #918 @ 16:30 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey - Reply to #914

An interesting theory. I always wonder if the FPS and USB hz were directly connected -- for example I notice on a 125 FPS server with vsync off I don't get tearing as I did with a non 125 FPs server. However, I do notice that the gameplay changes dramatically if the FPS fluctates. When vsync on (even when joined to a 125 FPS server), the gameplay is consistent yet capped at 60, high and low.

Something is behaving strangely.

<< Comment #930 @ 16:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cbs - Reply to #918

noob

its not usb hz, its your monitor ones............
lol americans

<< Comment #975 @ 18:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #930

Go feed on some more travoni cock, Einstein.

lol Italians...

<< Comment #985 @ 18:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ufo - Reply to #975

he's irish?

lol danes

<< Comment #1002 @ 19:07 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #985

and you're a wannabe Dane...

<< Comment #987 @ 18:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #975

nice flag knowledge

lol swiss ;)

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<< Comment #997 @ 19:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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kevz - Reply to #987

i lol'd

<< Comment #1007 @ 19:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #997

yeah, big fucking difference. One flag is green, white, red - the other is green, white, red (with a slightly different tan).
Imagine someone made the mistake and not seeing that in a 2x3 pixel icon - hahahahahaha, soooo funny., Geez..

Just like your flag, looks like a trillion others. :)
At least mine is unique hrhr

<< Comment #1012 @ 19:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1007

if that's red then your flag is orange and pink :]

lol ... uhh ... weirdflagcountrypeople

<< Comment #1076 @ 03:56 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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crow- - Reply to #1007

^ check it again...

see? no red :|

Edited by crow- at 03:57 CST, 9 February 2007

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cbs - Reply to #1076

:|

<< Comment #1138 @ 08:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1007

Kalmar Union flag afaik ;)

<< Comment #1004 @ 19:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #987

Which makes it even worse.

<< Comment #1081 @ 04:20 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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hebi-fly - Reply to #987

lol becks!

oh wait! becks rocks! *slurp*

<< Comment #1113 @ 06:24 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1081

ugh, that's just nasty :<

and i like it ;)

<< Comment #1025 @ 20:31 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey - Reply to #930

An lcd monitor won't actually display the full 125 fps if it's at 60hz. However the scan rate could possibly match that of usb 125hz.

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becks - Reply to #914

so, which frequency are you talking about?
Cuase Herzt applies to usb port, screen refresh rate and actually frames are also measured in hertz (they just decided to call it per second)

<< Comment #1095 @ 04:52 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #1069

I find that I can't see a difference between 80-125fps BUT i do the the difference when I set the display resfresh rate to pair/sync the rates

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becks - Reply to #1095

that is correct, you cannot consciuosly see a difference at more than 30, or maybe 40 for some people but that does not mean you eye and your subconscious doesn't notice and since feeling is subconscious it is affected.
I guess you heard of the times where they used single frames for commercial in cinemas and tv. It's based on the same principle.

Good job at completely avoiding my question though ;)

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Aaron - Reply to #1114

oh sorry, thought I made it obvious I was talking out the displayrefresh feature / monitor rate as apposed to USB hz =]

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Anonymous (h0d936d16e0.dhcp-tex.umassd.edu) - Reply to #1114

i get what you're saying, but it's not really true. if you have 60ish fps and you turn, there will be big gaps in the images that get displayed on your monitor. for instance 45 degrees in a quarter second is only 15 frames (360 degrees in 1 second being 60 frames).. so each frame will jump a couple (3) of degrees. it's definitely noticable, try it.

really i think that even though it doesn't make a giant difference in how you play, a factor of 2 or 3 beyond this would also be noticable, especially if you turned faster. it's just that people haven't ever really tried playing with 250 or whatever fps.

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becks - Reply to #1174

Well then it is more about the game engines not doing a perfect job, because any set of 30 frames evenly distributed over a second yields a film.
Again:
Is a difference in framerates (to a certain extend, say 100) noticable?
Yes.
Can you consciously notice what frame it was that went wrong?
No.

You do however consciously notice some flickering and such things but no real frames.

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Anonymous (h0d936d16e0.dhcp-tex.umassd.edu) - Reply to #1184

no, i still disagree. movies are at around 30hz, and that's why they ALWAYS get a little blurry / stutter whenever the camera pans or things happens quickly. this isn't as much of an issue for movies though, since there's a stronger afterimage (which makes the frames blend together more), especially if you're in a dark theater.

Games do the same thing, and it's clear as day with 60hz. 120hz is only a factor of 2 different, so it is definitely possible to notice the same effect there too. i don't mean notice subconsciously... i mean you should be able to clearly look at 60 or 100ish fps and tell that it's not perfect when you turn quickly. if you can't tell, try repeating a few times at lower fps to get used to what you're looking for, then raise the fps and try again. if you can't tell after that.. get your vision checked. make sure your monitor is at 120hz or higher, displayrefresh is correct, etc.

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becks - Reply to #1192

and you are still not getting what I am saying.

I am saying that you simply cannot tell what exactly you missed.
So e.g. while turning you can not say which angle was depicted and which was not. While at something like 15 frames you can.

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Anonymous (h0d936d16e0.dhcp-tex.umassd.edu) - Reply to #1193

you're right, i didn't completely read it. assumed you were just saying the old "it's impossible to tell diff between 60 and 120hz" argument. bet even with 15 frames it would be hard to say exactly which one was wrong.

<< Comment #1201 @ 16:25 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1200

yes, no and yes ;)

<< Comment #1316 @ 18:14 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1201

I run my monitor at 85 hz, but I use 500 fps in warsow.
(no, I'm not kidding. This is not a joke. I use 500fps in warsow, and my 7950 gtko superclocked doesn't mind a bit)

<< Comment #1318 @ 18:17 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1316

that is really good for you, but by standardclocked GeForce 2 MX doesn't mind at all ;)

<< Comment #973 @ 18:33 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #912

Yes, UT2k4 is synced @ 85fps with the server.
You can break it and get a trillion fps, but it can cause weird lags.

That said, I *do* feel the difference from 85fps to, say, 100 fps.
If I've have played a few hours on 125fps, and jump back to 85fps, it feels like a slide show.

<< Comment #915 @ 16:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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go-botz

played on a 125fps server. i can't get 125 with my comp.
monsoon seamed busted. mh jump was impossible. i would come to a dead stop after leaving the teleporter.

unlocking fps cap was a bad idea.
i'm not going to spend $1000 to upgrade for one game.

still the physics bug where you come to a complete stop after using a jump pad. (dm9 jumpad to rail)

still the specular turning on by itself.

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<< Comment #917 @ 16:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey - Reply to #915

What happens when you turn on vsync? Does everything get more consistent or worse?

<< Comment #919 @ 16:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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go-botz - Reply to #917

dosnt change. goes tween 60-80 fps.

<< Comment #988 @ 18:55 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #919

but the simple question is: do you feel the game running better or not...

<< Comment #990 @ 18:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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go-botz - Reply to #988

not better. infact i feel this is the worst q4 version yet.
i know its still a beta, but these things should have been noticed prior to its release by beta testers.

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<< Comment #992 @ 19:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #990

dude, thats why they call it beta, hence your issue report is crucial.

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go-botz - Reply to #992

i know.

<< Comment #945 @ 17:32 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Troll - Reply to #915

Don't tell me they still haven't fixed specular, its even been fixed by Q4max for a year.

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morbyte - Reply to #945

maybe because q4max has fixed it already for a year ? !

the majority of ppl who play q4base mainly wont tweak their cfg -> good graphics
the guys who play picmip and/or q4max may be intelligent enough to work around ;)

<< Comment #983 @ 18:50 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #915

These ARE issues...but remember. Who's going to be playing Q4Base? Soon as 1.4 is officially released, Q4MAX will update, and everyone will play that. So keep with the bug/suggestion comments, but everyone should refrain from snap judgements and critisism...until it's OUT of BETA, and Q4MAX updates.
=)
If at that time...it's still has these issues...THEN let the whine pour down.

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go-botz - Reply to #983

shouldn't have to rely on a mod to fix basic bugs.
far worse things seem to have been introduced in this beta update than anything in previous versions.

as far as i can tell the physics are fubar.

i'm no q4 hater, i like it alot. i only stopped playing because no one ever played. things just seem a ton worse now then they ever were.
thats my experience sofar.

<< Comment #916 @ 16:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey

Can we get a better description on the 'optimized sound' -- i.e. what it actually does? I've always had a fascination with the HRTF methods to get 3D sound out of a 2 channel source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function

Is this using HRTF's or just some sort of filtering?

s_earSeperationAlgo 2

Any chance we can get the Quake 3 doppler swoosh sounds in there?

Thank you. =)

P.S. The readme implies s_earSeperationAlgo 2 is default though it seems to default to 0 when joining a server.

Edited by escapedturkey at 16:28 CST, 8 February 2007

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hemostick - Reply to #916

Read the cvar description from the console - 0 = 1 in sp and 2 in mp.

<< Comment #970 @ 18:25 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey - Reply to #953

Yah, and it's defaulting to 0 in mp. =)

<< Comment #976 @ 18:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #970

Yeah - which takes care of the two behaviours depending on context, as opposed to using 1 (forcing the old algo all the time) and 2 (forcing the new stuff all the time).

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escapedturkey - Reply to #976

The readme says 2 is the default in MP and it's not:

* new ear seperation algorithm for stereo software sound, used by default in multiplayer only
see s_earSeperationAlgo, s_mp_minVolume, s_mp_maxWindow

"used by default in multiplayer only"

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hemostick - Reply to #1001

*garglh*
Let's try one more time. :)
Setting 0 behaves like 1only in sp and 2 only in mp. The cvar doesn't change to either of the two when you're playing sp/mp : the behaviour does. Old algo in sp, new algo in mp. Hence the "only in mp by default".

Edited by hemosaek at 19:23 CST, 8 February 2007

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Death_Gun - Reply to #1001

rofl

<< Comment #922 @ 16:37 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (bas1-toronto63-1088789901.dsl.bell.ca)

I think the only thing really lacking in q4 is the netcode. With the current netcode the game is barely playable with a ping over 50 and hitscan weapons are impossible to hit with any regularity. The changes in this patch look promising but until the netcode is smoothed out I wont be playing.

<< Comment #984 @ 18:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #922

uhhh...this update improves the netcode?

<< Comment #921 @ 16:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sujoy

Reinstalling Quake 4...

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<< Comment #933 @ 16:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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wakka - Reply to #921

do not uninstall this time =)

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<< Comment #937 @ 17:03 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #933

I reinstall windows regularly so everything disappears!

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PURRI - Reply to #937

All the wierd web-sites you visit... trust me! <3

<< Comment #965 @ 18:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #956

I can't help it, they said I'd get free porn to my inbox if I run the exe file!!

<< Comment #989 @ 18:57 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #965

so why did you reinstall? you just have to wait some time ;)

<< Comment #929 @ 16:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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TheGunSlinger

Goddam Jolt servers are awful - just played on their pub test machine and though id had fucked the game it was so jerky, played elsewhere and it's smooth as silk.

Nice job id.

Jolt, realise the servers are a free and do appreciate it but any chance of making them playable ?

<< Comment #941 @ 17:11 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #929

To be honest, don't think I've ever played on a smooth jolt server in any game. They have always been inferior to other places (BY back in the day) or some random Swedish servers I used to play q3 on sometimes.

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Jamerio : - Reply to #941

I'm not sure what's worse.

The fact that you used a vastly less resource hogging game like q3 vs q4.

Or that you compared British internet to that of Sweden.
At least compare it to other one's in the UK and games from the 21st century!

I have no problems duelling on jolt and ffa is usually laggy on jolt becasue it's 12 players. In which case I would be surprised if 12 player FFA is "fine" anywhere on q4 in any country.

I do think jolt should lower the FFA slots from 12 to 8 when using Baseq4.
The level designs are not really suited for 12 players.
8 would mean more skill, less spam and less instant death for new players and the performance increase would be significant and improve the over all enjoyment. Less is more in cases like this.

Edited by Jamerio at 04:16 CST, 9 February 2007

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ini - Reply to #1078

I'm not sure what's worse.

The fact you totally didn't understand what I was saying or the fact you actually replied to me clearly showing you didn't understand me.

I was talking about Jolt servers ALWAYS sucking across ALL games I've played in comparison to the old BYGAMES and some Swedish servers (You can addDutch/Danish/French/German to the list too).

Jolt servers in all games I've played have felt low quality and while I may not have had "lag" you can clearly tell the difference between the quality. I mean when I can get a better gaming experience on a 70-90ms Swedish server than I can to a 16ms (Back in the day :<) UK Jolt server you know something is up.

Edited by incrates_ at 04:20 CST, 9 February 2007

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Jamerio : - Reply to #1079

Well I'm telling you I have played jolt FFA on say 6 players and it's been fine.
I have also duelled last couple of weeks on 1v1 and it's been fine.

I only use my PC for FPS so I can only talk about it with those games in mind on those servers.

<< Comment #1086 @ 04:32 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1084

And your standard of what makes something "fine" is clearly not what I consider fine.

<< Comment #1308 @ 17:08 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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technics - Reply to #1078

BY = blueyonder u spacko >_<

<< Comment #967 @ 18:22 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #929

Jolt was once great. Many years ago...

<< Comment #1031 @ 21:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #929

100% agree

<< Comment #924 @ 16:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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shqdow

are old autoexec cfgs not working anymore (even if they only consist of the image values)?

<< Comment #940 @ 17:10 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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SI|ava

You wonder why... Jolt is powered by pipex these days the worst English ISP .... Im with them and i get capped at 20kbps every night :(

Have fun lol:)

<< Comment #1019 @ 19:44 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #940

David Hasselhoff uses Pipex!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #1054 @ 01:18 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1019

he sucks... ignore him

<< Comment #1319 @ 18:17 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #1054

HAHA!

<< Comment #1089 @ 04:38 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Sujoy - Reply to #940

I've had to switch my bradband from Nildram to NTL it was getting so bad...

<< Comment #946 @ 17:34 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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RabidDeathMoose

Cool, I might actually reinstall Q4 to check this one out...

maybe

<< Comment #947 @ 17:36 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy

to all the admins that will mainly run a team mod on there server:
don't set 125fps.

<< Comment #958 @ 18:00 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #947

Yeah with 125fps, 8players and 2 spectators (usual number in team games) the server has become unplayable, while with 6-8 clients it was smooth. This on GUNK server.
Dunno I'm still disappointed by this game.

<< Comment #966 @ 18:21 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #947

How high then?

<< Comment #971 @ 18:29 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #966

really dunno. think that should be decided after the full 1.4 and q4max.
i'm guessing between 80 and 100
(not based on my comp)

<< Comment #979 @ 18:42 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly - Reply to #971

Based on my system, I vote for 3fps :p

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<< Comment #1030 @ 21:26 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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arQon - Reply to #971

max 0.78 makes a BIG difference, same as all the previous revs already do but with some extra stuff added on the assumption that serious play WILL be at at least 100fps.

<< Comment #1074 @ 03:52 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #1030

sure hope your right, and tnx for the info

Edited by stripy at 03:53 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1126 @ 07:06 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #1030

I hope we get one for this weekend I going to a lan party and would like to try it out at the lan.

<< Comment #978 @ 18:38 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey

While the new hitboxes fix a lot of issues, they seem to bring on others. The splash damage of most weapons like the grenade and rockets is next to zero now. The splash damage needs to be cranked up a bit to compensate for the new hitbox size/shape.

:)

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<< Comment #999 @ 19:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #978

btw: plz disable the bobbing on your server.. its not client side in q4base ;)
ty

<< Comment #1022 @ 19:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #978

disagreed

<< Comment #981 @ 18:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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go-botz

how do i set brightskins? cant find any info on it.
its easy in q4 max. why isnt there an option in the gui console shit?

<< Comment #1003 @ 19:08 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #981

console only afaik
g_forcemodel - ffa / 1o1 enemy model
g_forcemarinemodel - marine model
g_forcestroggmodel - strogg model

<< Comment #1093 @ 04:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ufo - Reply to #1003

and to scroll between enemymodels just press tab a few times after you have written the command to find s suitable one

<< Comment #1283 @ 14:43 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1003

Wow...now's that really noob friendly!!

<< Comment #982 @ 18:46 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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McFly

I'm guessing this patch is not backward compatible?
IE. ppl need to play on 1.4b servers with this?

<< Comment #986 @ 18:54 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #982

If you read the post:
"The 1.4 beta update affects pure server and protocol consistency. Therefore, players who update to 1.4 beta from ANY previous version will only be able to connect and play against other 1.4 beta users. Save games and demos created on any previous version of the game will not be compatible with the 1.4 beta update."

=)

<< Comment #998 @ 19:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy

1000?

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Nukm - Reply to #998

Comment #1001 @ 02:05 CET, 9 February 2007
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will have to go for the 2000 then...

<< Comment #1010 @ 19:18 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #1008

;p

i'll let u have the 1000th on the full 1.4^^

Edited by stripy at 19:23 CST, 8 February 2007

<< Comment #1009 @ 19:14 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #998

*impressive*

<< Comment #1027 @ 20:58 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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s0n1cm4yh3m - Reply to #998

really impressive
you deserve all the [+] you might get for this

<< Comment #1000 @ 19:05 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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starscream

I really think that the rg has been sufficiently nerfed, with the hitbox and dmg adjustments.

In CTF i think that the starting ammo of 5 is too little, and should be raised back up to 10. I can see the logic for tdm an duel for keeping at 5. CTF is an entirely different mod.

In duel or tdm, generally there is one rg on a map, which some people may camp and abuse by having too much ammo, as it may not be available to the opponent. However in ctf the symmetry of maps generally provies an rg on each side of the map for each team, so it's more accessible to everybody who wants to go and take one.

When attacking in maps where the base is expansive, the attacker needs more than 5 shots as killing 2 defenders in 5 shots doesn't mean job done, as there are always spawners to consider who can simply pickup the weapon they just dropped by spawning near where it was and have fresh ammo to shoot me with, while i have none. My point is, with only 5 shots in ctf, the weapon simply doesn't last long enough.

Having 10slugs has never been an issue in the previous quake ctf's. It is not a problem now, because like i say, the rg has already been nerfed enough. It is definitely harder to hit with now, so if someone can use it well now, it's more of a sign of aim skill than it has previously been in q4. This shouldn't be taken away from the people who can aim.

<< Comment #1060 @ 02:22 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xou - Reply to #1000

Finally the ammo boxes will be used in ctf? :)

<< Comment #1065 @ 03:11 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1060

like fuck I'm putting railgun ammo boxes in ctf map :P

Edited by [CopperHead] at 03:11 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1067 @ 03:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #1060

and redo all these ctf maps, no wai! :P

<< Comment #1186 @ 14:56 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #1000

In some of the leagues, I have read, they play some maps without rail because of the camping in center, such as heartless. Play a few real games and see if this eliminates such problems while keeping the gun.

Personally I don't see the problem. In the games I have heard about, seen and played there as been no issue about running out of slugs from viable players, that you know pick up ammo and use more than one gun.

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starscream - Reply to #1186

well, the heartless without rail actually only came into being because the person who suggested the changes to drach at the time was from a german clan who kept losing with it as it was, and he used his influence to remove the rail, purely hoping it would improve his clan's chances. In the end, it did not improve things for them, the result was the same, and that same player who suggested the specific changes that got implemented, later admitted that my suggestion was ideal (simply switching the gl and rg position on heartless) so it was deeper in base, so there was a time penalty for those who wante to use a rg in mid.

Heartless was far more intense with rail. It was a rail fest instead of a spam fest. Between the two options, i'd pick the one that requires aim.

<< Comment #1231 @ 23:35 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1190

I would prefer the one that need more brains to overcome.

<< Comment #1284 @ 14:45 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1231

I would prefer q3.

<< Comment #1331 @ 06:14 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1284

Your brain fails you, and i suspect not for the first time.

<< Comment #1355 @ 21:29 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1331

I'm sorry, I just dont like playing on empty servers...you go girl!!!

<< Comment #1360 @ 22:14 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1355

Yea, i'm gone.

<< Comment #1017 @ 19:39 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Blabla

agre whit starscream - if posible. make it 10 in CTF. CTF in q4 is really good. and it can grow bigger whit the 1.4.. so dont kill it. plx

i have tested the 1.4 patch now. since it was out. its really good. and q4 is gooing strong in the right direction. i have a farly normal pc.-

AMD x2 4200 - 2gig ram - 6800gs - standard ausu MB.

i get 125fps easy. i love the 1.4 patch. and cant wait to have the final vers and q4max here :D

<< Comment #1023 @ 19:52 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Larvi

IMAGINE TOXIC OWNING SOME NOOB WITH ITG.2GD CASTING THE MATCH STREAMED VIA Q4TV
SPRAYING CUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

<< Comment #1052 @ 00:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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wari - Reply to #1023

hell yeah

<< Comment #1057 @ 01:28 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #1023

u cant spray in q4tv, not yet i hope

<< Comment #1024 @ 20:02 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey

As with all id PRs (and betas) they seem to mess with mouse sensitivity. I couldn't hit anything till I turned down my mouse sensitivity from 13.5 to 11. Worth a shot if your mouse feels over-active in this patch. :)

<< Comment #1042 @ 22:16 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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JeeFour - Reply to #1024

umm... pretty sure you're sens if just too high. but what kind of dpi does your mouse have? i have a 1600dpi mouse and my sens is 2.7, which is high sens.

<< Comment #1071 @ 03:42 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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escapedturkey - Reply to #1042

I'm using a Logitech MX 510. Yourself?

<< Comment #1223 @ 20:27 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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JeeFour - Reply to #1071

...umm, i don't want to say...

...fatal1ty 1010... =/

<< Comment #1309 @ 17:14 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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technics - Reply to #1223

ZOMG XD

<< Comment #1097 @ 04:54 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ufo - Reply to #1024

tried pb_system 0?

enter pb-server - type pb_writecfg - exit the game and check the pbsys.cfg in the pb folder of your q4 dir - edit the file type pb_system 0 and then save it.

have been seen to fix mouse/keyboard issues in this patch (see copperheads post above)

<< Comment #1041 @ 22:15 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (68-67-224-91.chvlva.adelphia.net)

Ive had this game uninstalled for quite some time, but I hate the idea of leaving an id software game unplayed for such a long time in such a short period after buying it.

so far the patches have been real let downs, but Im still hopefull that the game can be saved...no matter how negative I may get with my comments about it...I am a quaker afterall....a shitty quake will always be better than an excellent UT.

I saw the thing about hitboxes being changed....unfortunatly I didnt see anything about playermodels being made smaller, which would help a great deal with the hitbox problem...(and smaller playermodels would make the gameworld larger and give it that fun arcade feeling we all loved so much in q3, instead of trying to turn quake into a "real world shooter")

also...explosions in this game need to be made smaller(atleast as of the last time i played. one explosion could completely hide your opponant and that gets really annoying)...just an fyi for anyone that might care...

Im going to reinstall q4 to try this patch...hopefully I wont be wasting my time...because im getting really tired of not having a quake game to play on a regular basis...I still play q3 but there arent that many servers I care to play on...either because of shitty mods or constant botting despite PB being turned on...

<< Comment #1128 @ 07:19 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #1041

"a shitty quake will always be better than an excellent UT"

xDxD so true

<< Comment #1045 @ 22:48 CST, 8 February 2007 >>

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karunezh

yeaaah!
*headshaking*
=))))

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<< Comment #1049 @ 00:08 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Vayne

I tried it out for a lil on a server of 30 ping. The netcode seems different or it might just be that I havent played alot of games on the internets for about 3 wks.

<< Comment #1050 @ 00:18 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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shay

Uninstalled again. fucking shajjt...... but i have to say its more like q3 now, and thats a plus, isnt it wakka? :|

<< Comment #1068 @ 03:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #1050

wakka wakka wakka wakka

(lets all invoq hes suparior wizdome, so we cud hav a laff or 2..)

Edited by Aquashark at 03:16 CST, 9 February 2007

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wakka - Reply to #1050

sry cant give u a plus when ur saying "uninstalling again" ;) ;D
and plz dont compare it to q3 =) q4>>>>>>>>>>>>>q3 :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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<< Comment #1075 @ 03:56 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1072

as 4 > 3 , right.

Edited by [CopperHead] at 03:56 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1146 @ 09:17 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1072

<3 !

Q2>Q4>Q1>Q3

<< Comment #1177 @ 13:35 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (p57A7CD2D.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #1146

wow ur so damn wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!

cause its

q1>q3>q4>q2 cmon q3 is shiit

<< Comment #1178 @ 13:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1177

err wtf?! you got a brain?

<< Comment #1230 @ 23:00 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #1178

q2 > quake*

<< Comment #1236 @ 02:41 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1230

YEAH!

<< Comment #1310 @ 17:16 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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technics - Reply to #1178

q1 > *

<< Comment #1258 @ 10:48 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #1177

q4 > q3 > q1 > q2

<< Comment #1053 @ 00:45 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (68-67-224-91.chvlva.adelphia.net)

well...i gave it an honest shot...and that was the last shot this game will get....its the last shot this game engine will get. im never reinstalling this game ever again. if I see any more topics anywhere about a new quake 4 patch im just gonna ignore it.

im not playing any more games that use the doom 3 engine...modified or not...its shit for multiplayer and thats all there is to it. (yes that means im not buying quake wars)

I dont care if you remade quake 3 using the doom 3 engine it would still be a shit game.

I seriously hate this...I havent disliked a quake game EVER, till now.(except for any form of cpma)

I had high hopes....taking this long to get the patch out and all...

doesnt matter if its alpha, beta, omega, or anything else...its time to let quake 4 go...the only things that would make it "quake" are things nobody is willing to do (if they were willing to do those things they already would have done them), because they dont want to change whats already there. whats already there is not now nor will it ever be quake except for the name theyve slapped onto it hoping long time quakers would eat shit and smile.

well, Im tired of my breath smelling like shit...time to brush this nasty taste out of my mouth and find something else to chew on.

Yes I know its a game, but I take my fun seriously. I cant have fun while playing a game that isnt.

forgive this last bit but It just popped into my head as I was about to stop typing:

first there was Coke, and it was good for a long time(quake 1-2-3)...it brought the world together and taught them how to sing(and frag)...then came New Coke(quake 4) and everybody that had loved coke started drinking pepsi...then they realised the mistake they made and brought Coke back as Coke Classic(hopefully Quake 5)...hope someone from id atleast reads this part to know what im trying to say here...

for those that may not understand...Ill explain: dont fuck with the real thing.

Oh well...not that its a bad thing, but im going to go play World of Warcraft. Allis got shaman. horde got paladins. and Im lvling an overpowered feral druid that will no doubt be nerfed very soon :-/

<< Comment #1055 @ 01:21 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1053

OMG you complain about quake 4 but you actually play WoW while q4 is loads better then that? go to hell plz !

<< Comment #1061 @ 02:22 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #1055

But he played the beta for like an entire 2 and a half hours!

<< Comment #1092 @ 04:46 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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cdogg - Reply to #1061

I doubt he played that long. If someone is willing to give up on a game, because they didn't like a BETA PATCH. I'll say that one more time. A BETA PATCH /bold!
There isn't even a Q4max on top of it. Do you play Q3 base? NO BECAUSE ITS HORRIBLE. You play OSP or CPMA. I don't care for ppl like this to be in the community anyways...but if you are gonna quit a game that you want to like, at least let them finish the current patch...let Q4max release...play that(For a decent amount of time)...THEN decide.

Here's a bit from your analogy. You do realize at one time your COKE...had actual COCAINE in it? Should we go back to coke with cocaine in it? No they changed it(updated it), and it's better now.....

<< Comment #1118 @ 06:44 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1092

It's BETA yes. But that means it's basically for us to find any bugs in the patch and stuff like that, there isn't going to be a sudden giant list of more things once it goes final.

You don't even need a mod like q4max/osp/cpma to tell if you do not like the patch in this instance. If it was about how the railgun change affects gameplay then yes you probably would, but there is noway q4max is going to suddenly make my Q4 feel better than other games that I can play out there.

<< Comment #1127 @ 07:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #1118

You don't know what they have plan for the final. yes beta means that they can fix bugs and even add more goodies.

<< Comment #1132 @ 07:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1127

haha you don't honestly think that there is going to be much more than this in the final? Nothing that would make me change my mind anyway.

<< Comment #1134 @ 07:54 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #1132

yes I do. about you changing your mind well that only up to you.

Edited by xchaser at 07:56 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1139 @ 08:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1134

It really won't, I'm not being stubborn and just hating or anything, it's just a substandard product in comparison to what I have available to me.

I couldn't care less if Q3 took longer to get this good or whatever, at this present moment in time Q4 is still far behind Q3 for me so I'll play that. See you at 1.5 beta patch release I guess.....

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<< Comment #1285 @ 14:52 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1092

lol.....

There's nothing wrong with baseq3, many people still play it. I still play osp/cpma/baseq3 because it's basically the same fucking thing when you think about it. Just compare it with baseq4 and q4max...now that's different because baseq4 is shit.

<< Comment #1100 @ 05:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1061

without a mod even!

<< Comment #1123 @ 06:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Liam - Reply to #1055

How can Quake 4 be both better but also exactly the same?

LOL J/K DON'T ATTACK ME JAMERIO

<< Comment #1063 @ 02:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #1053

zZzzz

<< Comment #1077 @ 04:07 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c-24-20-156-51.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) - Reply to #1053

"doesnt matter if its alpha, beta, omega, or anything else...its time to let quake 4 go...the only things that would make it "quake" are things nobody is willing to do (if they were willing to do those things they already would have done them), because they dont want to change whats already there. whats already there is not now nor will it ever be quake except for the name theyve slapped onto it hoping long time quakers would eat shit and smile."

You whiners always say stuff like this, but never are specific. You know why? Because you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't like the game fine, that is one thing, but stop talking about someone failing to make these imaginary changes when almost every user requested feature of some import has been addressed. Furthermore, you saying it is only quake in name doesn't make it so.

<< Comment #1080 @ 04:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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hebi-fly - Reply to #1053

i tried some shit on my local lan server here.
never tried fps 80 or something.. but with default fps i think the game really got "smoother" at all.. especially while crouchsliding i got that feeling.

<< Comment #1101 @ 05:12 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1053

I've said it so many times already. This is beta patch and wait for Q4MAX. This is NOT a Q3 remake!! Even Q3 without OSP/CPMA is pretty much boring to play. If you try the full 1.4 and Q4MAX and still not liking it, then I belive you :)

Edited by Purri at 05:13 CST, 9 February 2007

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<< Comment #1122 @ 06:47 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1101

Does the full 1.4 patch add more than this BETA or something?

Sure Q4max will make it more pleasant and more smooth (In terms of FPS) but it's not really adding that much more that will change his/my mind to be quite honest. That is of course assuming q4max hasn't totally rewritten the entire Doom3 engine.

<< Comment #1161 @ 10:48 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1122

We just have to wait and see before we make up our minds?

<< Comment #1287 @ 14:57 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1161

wait? for how long??? am I gonna wait 10 fucking years so that q4 finally becomes enjoyable???

<< Comment #1185 @ 14:46 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #1122

I would think they needed a beta to see reaction to some of the game play changes and to test out the current state of Q4TV. They have made a lot of changes and a good test to see how those are working together is always necessary. Even in Delta CTF we had to do this from time to time. Sometimes it takes a broader range of machines and people to catch things going wrong that shouldn't be.

Also I would think since there are still some things I would think were intended for 1.4 that we haven't seen yet, that they are still working their asses off. Believe me when I say I want this patch out more than any of you. Having my hubby work late isn't so fun every day :P

So maybe they are just polishing what is there or perhaps this is just a major step one and we get a another layer to the cookie jar. I don't think anyone but a handful of people actually know which is correct, and I would think most of them are too busy working on things to answer that for us.

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<< Comment #1203 @ 17:02 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1185

Well I while I'm not in any informed position at this moment in time I'm doubting if they will include much more in 1.4 which leaves me to still "hate" this game untill maybe 1.5 or 1.6 etc.

I "appreciate" what id are doing but it still isn't good enough due to the Doom3 engine :)

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<< Comment #1227 @ 22:08 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Vayne - Reply to #1203

Then it would be carmack your anger should be toward not id software as a whole.

<< Comment #1229 @ 22:25 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #1227

Carmack wasn't the sole coder on the Doom3 engine if I recall correctly. And id software as a team decided the direction Doom3 (And therefore the engine) went.

<< Comment #1286 @ 14:55 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1101

No, it's not boring to play cause it's the same fucking thing. cpma and osp add stats and huds...nothing more. You've got to be a record breaking moron to enjoy osp/cpma and dislike baseq3.

Sounds like someone in here played too much q2 and missed the whole q3 thing...oh wait...

Edited by HammerSmashFace at 16:59 CST, 10 February 2007

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PURRI - Reply to #1286

Sounds like someone is talking abit to much about something he has no idea about. Q4MAX does change other stuff than stats, actually it doesnt even ADD that kind of thing. It adds vital tweaking oppurtunities and with that the feeling aswell.

You make it sound like I am a Q3 hater? Im not, I love Q3TDM and played several eurocups etc.

Ps: You can never play to much Q2, but Im close enough to reach that goal :)

<< Comment #1345 @ 14:43 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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shay - Reply to #1341

ofcourse you say wait and that its gonna be all good with q4.
cuz you still think you gonna be the number one ! :D

<< Comment #1346 @ 15:08 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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PURRI - Reply to #1345

You read my thoughts so well!

<< Comment #1347 @ 15:26 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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shay - Reply to #1346

sucking corporate cock since 2006? :)

<< Comment #1357 @ 21:41 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1347

go spread the manjam elsewhere, I don't putt from the rough, kid.

<< Comment #1364 @ 07:38 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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shay - Reply to #1357

geekmaster. take that again.

<< Comment #1356 @ 21:40 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1341

That's what I meant, q4max adds a lot of stuff cause q4base is nearly unplayable. Now, I was actually replying to what you said about q3 being boring without cpma/osp, which is completely false since baseq3 is almost identical to cpma/osp minus a few stats and huds. Movement was nearly the same and the weapon balance was the same fucking thing. We all know it's a completely different story with q4base...thank god for q4max I guess!

<< Comment #1056 @ 01:27 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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zkyp

'sup.

<< Comment #1070 @ 03:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Aquashark '

to be honest i'd be more excited for a Warsow patch than for Q4 1.4
but at least there is Q4TV and that matters a lot, since i don't actually play the game :P

<< Comment #1087 @ 04:32 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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�Guru�

Good patch SyncError, Keep up good work! <3 <3

<< Comment #1090 @ 04:42 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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mute

gosh, and i just started playing quake3 again. CURSE YOU FOR BEING SO LATE

<< Comment #1096 @ 04:53 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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|nFin1teFX|

this patch rocks...congratz id

theres not much 2 complain about.. so i dont understand some of the negative posts concerning this topic...

number of players already increased a bit..thats a good sign

<< Comment #1107 @ 05:41 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Mr.Yes - Reply to #1096

People who complain are the once who gets 5 frags in a 15 min FFA or have an older computer with say a Nvidia 5200 gfx card and play with 10 fps.
When ppl like yourself, hello or the blue metal dude comes to play they cry like little babys ;)
Any quakegame on a higher level is hard, it takes years to be really good.

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<< Comment #1180 @ 14:01 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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|nFin1teFX| - Reply to #1107

=o

<< Comment #1102 @ 05:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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retire

Patch is awesome, we just need q4max and portal jumps fixed

<< Comment #1104 @ 05:26 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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d00med

cant play much more base, I hope 078 comes out really soon :)

<< Comment #1194 @ 15:57 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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zpnq - Reply to #1104

078 probably wont be released until a while after the final patch comes out.

<< Comment #1218 @ 20:07 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1194

You're wrong.

<< Comment #1106 @ 05:39 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun

i recorded a netdemo alone in a listen server for benchmark purposes, but when i try to watch or timedemo it, game says you cant watch netdemo saved from the server, only the ones saved by clients. Do i need to do any extra config in order to timedemo that demo?

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1106

"listen server". The clue is in the name.

If you're running a listen server, it is a server with a renderer, it is not a client. Therefore, its not ever going to record you a client demo.

If you're doing it for performance testing, do it on a real dedicated server, because LISTEN SERVERS ARE NOT THE SAME. (in big letters because you obviously still dont believe that, despite the many thousands of times its been said ;))

<< Comment #1187 @ 15:01 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun - Reply to #1133

thats not an option to me, no servers in brazil. theres one, but it freezes all time, giant latency to me, its 1.3 and my packet losses increases the shit.

<< Comment #1191 @ 15:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1187

Its an option for everyone:

http://www.q4max.com/wiki/index.php/Server#Ru...le_machine

<< Comment #1219 @ 20:08 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun - Reply to #1191

yes it worked thnks.

Lemme ask you just one more thing. Why in hell sometimes the game dont show the entire maplist? i mean, i was looking the maplist right now and there wasnt pranthic, galang1.1 and moonson1.1 aswell. Thats not a 1.4b issue, it just aways happened and i have no idea why.

tnks for the help

Edited by Death_Gun at 20:19 CST, 9 February 2007

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1219

spawnServer mp/swq4dm1

As for why you're not seeing all the maps, I dunno quite where you're looking - in the vote / admin menu? Or in the new 1.4 maplist command?

As of 1.4 I believe the vote menu should show all the maps that are on the server, rather than on the client. There may still be issues with addon maps not showing though - that isn't the case with q4max though, and I thought its not the case in q4base 1.4.

q4max's maplist command is gametype sensitive, so you wouldnt see the tourney maps if you're in CTF, so maybe thats it?

<< Comment #1224 @ 20:31 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun - Reply to #1222

youre fast replying, i findout the problem with the spawnserver and edited it but too late. about the map list, yes i suposed its gametype sensitive, then i tried it on DM and tourney. Some maps still missing. btw, im just doing "si_map /mp" and then press TAB

Edited by Death_Gun at 20:33 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1225 @ 20:47 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1224

Ah, okay, yes, tab autocomplete definately wont show any maps that are in addon pk4's unless that addon is currently referenced.

Try the "listMaps" command.

<< Comment #1228 @ 22:22 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Death_Gun - Reply to #1225

worked. tnks for the tips.

<< Comment #1188 @ 15:01 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Maylee - Reply to #1133

I almost think perhaps in beta testings the listen server option should be disabled. ;)

<< Comment #1108 @ 05:42 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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ufo

will the new maps be in the final patch or is the CMP-pack finished?

<< Comment #1167 @ 11:53 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #1108

they will release the final map pack when the judging is done.. probably AFTER the final patch.. and it'll probably be in 1.5 patch.. similar to the christmas map pack last year

<< Comment #1110 @ 05:52 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0

I dont have any problems getting 125 fps or so on the Linux port and thats a surprise to me since the Linux generally doesnt run as smooth as the windows, but unlocking the fps seems to rectify that a bit.

<< Comment #1111 @ 05:57 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xgo

5 slugs is to little for ffa, tdm and ctf

<< Comment #1119 @ 06:46 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1111

you can stay on railgun spot to get more if you need :p

<< Comment #1168 @ 11:54 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #1119

or you can use, lets say, a dif weapon? OMG

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<< Comment #1170 @ 12:27 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #1119

that sounds like camping LOL

<< Comment #1112 @ 06:15 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Larvi

LIGHTNING GUN AMMO 200 MAX PLZZZ

<< Comment #1121 @ 06:46 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1112

yep, lg knockback tweaks wouldnt hurt either for this beta :)

<< Comment #1149 @ 09:21 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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karunezh - Reply to #1112

shut up!!!
=))))

<< Comment #1151 @ 09:35 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Larvi - Reply to #1149

No!
200 is perfect, more just results in auto-fire lg seek and destroy shit :|

Edited by Larvi at 09:37 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1189 @ 15:07 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1149

wont plus you this time :p

<< Comment #1125 @ 07:03 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Dose anyone know if Quake 4 v1.4 Beta run on Windows Vista?

<< Comment #1130 @ 07:27 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1125

Don't go there man.

<< Comment #1131 @ 07:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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gk_nz - Reply to #1125

You better ask Microsoft about there broken and sad excuse of an OS first.

<< Comment #1135 @ 07:58 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #1125

Its suppose to be more of a Gamers OS but games run shitty on it with less proformance.

Edited by xchaser at 08:00 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1163 @ 11:02 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0 - Reply to #1135

I havent heard anything about how Vista would revolutionize PC gaming in 6 months so Im assuming they dropped this charade of it already. I just upgraded to linux Fedora core 6, Zod, instead. It may be a little slower at Quake 4 compared to XP but it is free, unlike Vista.
Zod supports all of my hardware out of the box, unlike XP you don't have to install any special drivers, even my sound card and video card had built in drivers. The only thing I had to do was install Nvidia drivers to get 3d games working, but it has built in drivers that work the card fine for normal desktop use, with all the resolutions supported. At this point I feel Linux has overtaken Windows in functionality and convenience, and for ease of use it is equal. Heck Zod even had built in drivers for my printer. The only issue is supported games but since I only play Quake 4 that's not an issue for me at all. UT2k4 works as well as Q3 and Q2.

Edited by CR0C0 at 11:14 CST, 9 February 2007

<< Comment #1175 @ 13:20 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (h0d936d16e0.dhcp-tex.umassd.edu) - Reply to #1163

zod? hmm. is fc 6 using xorg now? i'd like to try it out but the last time i installed fedora it was lacking wireless drivers, and since i have only wireless it was more of a pain to fix it than to just axe it.. also xorg requires manually reinstalling to get support for lots of vid cards more than 1-2 years old. again :( although wasn't it going to become modular or something?

<< Comment #1182 @ 14:13 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0 - Reply to #1175

Yes it has all that now wireless and all. I uninstalled all that stuff since I have a wired machine but it is on by default so that you will have internet as soon as you first boot.
Installing the nvidia drivers is easy you just have to go into add/remove software first and LIST and make sure you have GCC installed so that Nvidia can compile a new kernel for you automatically. Then you have to have the Kernel source code installed which is also easy Kernel-Devel, just check the box in the software addition app and it adds it automatically. Then you just sh Nvidia-driver.xxx.x.x.x. whatever and it installs itself automatically.
Theyve automated software installation to a high degree now so its nearly as easy as clicking on the Setup app in windows xp.
All the software I had to install was listerall just double clicking, clicking a checkbox in the software app or typing "sh
software app name" Its all very smooth now.

<< Comment #1199 @ 16:21 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (rrcs-208-125-5-138.nyc.biz.rr.com) - Reply to #1135

I run vista on a core 2 duo laptop with nvidia geforce go 7600.
Q4 runs at max fps.

<< Comment #1256 @ 10:10 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (v-603-balth-10-209.bitnet.nu) - Reply to #1199

I can't run q4max in Vista... q4base is running well in vista.

<< Comment #1262 @ 12:10 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1256

Thats likely to do with com_warnings, I'd guess, given we had to haxor the engine to make it work. Try setting com_warnings 1, and it'll probably work.

com_warnings is gone in 0.78 as the engine does it already (not seen anyone comment on this fact yet ;))

<< Comment #1297 @ 15:37 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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xrat3d - Reply to #1262

Didn't worked..=\ Got the same message " Could not create destination file c:\program file\id software\quake blabla \qmax\ ga

<< Comment #1300 @ 15:45 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #1297

Oh, okay. Thats a general thing - must have just worked in q4base because you already had the file or sth. ;)

Vista doesnt allow you to write files into C:\Program Files\*. Maybe as an admin it'll let you, but I think even then it requires the user to raise their privs to admin.

Set fs_savepath into a different directory that you do have permissions to write to.

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<< Comment #1312 @ 17:31 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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xrat3d - Reply to #1300

It works now.. Tnx for helping.
Got to change the attributs for q4 and run it like admin..though I was logged as admin..

<< Comment #1124 @ 07:03 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (mon75-2-81-57-110-66.fbx.proxad.net)

Well 3hours with 1.4 in a crappy server...BUT !!

I LOVE IT !!!

Just some bug sound in openAL are still present.

Some drop FPS but i think it sh ould be a server problem.

AND a lot of pb with the shaft :p

BUt this patch rox for me :p

<< Comment #1137 @ 08:06 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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shay

wake me up when quake 5 is in the stores.. like in 2015

<< Comment #1145 @ 09:16 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1137

Q4 released 5 years after quake 3 = 2005
2005 + 5 = 2010 :)

<< Comment #1150 @ 09:34 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #1145

don't agree

t1 = 1year, time between q1 and q2
t2 = 2years, time between q2 and q3
t3 = 6years, time between q3 and q4

as you can see by empyrical evidence the time between quake games is described by the law

t(1) = 1 by assiom
t(n+1) = 2 * Summatory i=1 to n of t(i)

so we can expect quake5 in 2023, cvd

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<< Comment #1155 @ 09:39 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #1150

ah rumors say it won't have brightskins on release

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<< Comment #1288 @ 15:02 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1155

...and you can forget about gtv!

<< Comment #1157 @ 10:18 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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zeicon - Reply to #1150

And as the development time increases, the quality of the final product decreases.

The bigger the turd, the more time / effort it takes to squeeze out.

Simple science.

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<< Comment #1158 @ 10:25 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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soulnrgizer - Reply to #1157

says zeicon's corollary

:P

<< Comment #1169 @ 12:02 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sparkie - Reply to #1150

Hmm okay... =]

<< Comment #1142 @ 08:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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BooTes

Hmm, are there more gibs?

<< Comment #1154 @ 09:37 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (195.33.97.71)

This news isn't sticky anymore? everything else is less important! for the final release i want a news stop for 4 weeks here =)

<< Comment #1153 @ 09:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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sstheta

Can someone post a quick summary of what my NVIDIA settings should be when I run Q4? I have a 6800GT and 2 gigs of RAM. I'm just so confused by all the posts.

Also, I have an older 17" flatscreen CRT what resolution should I run and what refresh rate should it be set to?

Any other tips would be appreciated.

cheers,

<< Comment #1156 @ 10:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #1153

afaik q4 is way more cpu oriented.

<< Comment #1152 @ 09:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (cpc1-shep4-0-0-cust939.lei3.cable.ntl.com)

wahh, love all the whiners, u all rage at id and q4 because you expect so much from quake 3. all there is to say, q3 was lucky it got so big, q4 needs that luck that gives it that edge, everything u want q4 to have is the same as q3, itll need something more attractive or u whiners just keep whining

<< Comment #1289 @ 15:03 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1152

What the fuck are you talking about...try to make some sense next time.

<< Comment #1159 @ 10:37 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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imbaczek

rail = pure <3

<< Comment #1165 @ 11:03 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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koyaan

125 fps servers in tournament felt extremly smooth on my budget machine (2.4 1g 6600)

125 FTW !1!!

<< Comment #1209 @ 17:47 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1165

cfg plz

<< Comment #1260 @ 11:10 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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koyaan - Reply to #1209

r_mode 3
low settings

r_skipSpecular 1

+ ambient lighting

Edited by koyaan at 11:11 CST, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #1261 @ 11:42 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #1260

great ill try thx :>

<< Comment #1173 @ 13:05 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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KitesAreFun

Someone run a test tournament with GTV so we know how this thing works and can test the function! :)

<< Comment #1176 @ 13:22 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Warchild_BiG

WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO LOVE YALL <3 ID SOFTWARE THANK YOU THANK YOU

<< Comment #1179 @ 13:50 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (d54C34B5F.access.telenet.be)

im running q4 on vista ultimate 1.3 worked , 1.4 works , grtz :)

<< Comment #1183 @ 14:20 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani

Just tested Q4-tv, really nice except that you can't chat.
The main point with gtv in my opinion is that you're able to whine =P

<< Comment #1197 @ 16:14 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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stripy - Reply to #1183

if a chat option comes, there must be a ignore chat cmd:)

<< Comment #1214 @ 18:23 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1197

ye

<< Comment #1290 @ 15:04 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1183

You can chat in q3's gtv and you will notice there are many more people playing it...sorry to burst your chemical bubble.

Edited by HammerSmashFace at 15:05 CST, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #1292 @ 15:20 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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NaAani - Reply to #1290

And yet again, you make absolutly no sense.

<< Comment #1298 @ 15:38 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1292

Yes I do make sense...the fact tha you don't "seem" to understand is probably due to the fact that you're mentally challenged.

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<< Comment #1198 @ 16:20 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (bas1-toronto63-1096578346.dsl.bell.ca)

cdogg: yes they say they have made changes to the netcode, however, I played on a server with a 70 ping and hitscan weapons were still un-hittable. (I don't believe this to be me adjusting to the hitbox's as I have decent aim) I don't think this game will be great until there are DRASTIC changes to the netcode. I hate to use the example of q3 since I am happy to let that game die however I could actually rail and lg with a 98 ping in q3 and it is not possible in q4.

<< Comment #1202 @ 16:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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crozZz - Reply to #1198

Exactly :(

<< Comment #1204 @ 17:03 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Spyyder - Reply to #1198

i agree, i hardly ever play online due to servers having high ping. I usually play lan, or with my buddy down the street where i ping 10-20, so when i do play online my rail/lg suffer and it ruins the experience.

<< Comment #1205 @ 17:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Murvel

I might even come back to Quake4 now. Be afraid, be very afraid.

Speciellt er svenskar som kommer f� smisk! :x

<< Comment #1217 @ 20:05 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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eagle - Reply to #1205

murvel vf ska du g�ra i q4? en fragfrag som du! hahaha:D

<< Comment #1253 @ 07:30 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Murvel - Reply to #1217

Pfft, freefrag my ass.

Kom � testa. :P

<< Comment #1206 @ 17:13 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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PanzerIV

About time dammnit, after 1� year! 1.4 is how Quake 4 should had been right on start. Now like many people preditected during the 1.3 hype, even the best patch won't bring everyone back. Those who had a big negative first experience (image) of Quake 4 won't feel like trying again. After so long it would also be hard to believe that Q4's multiplayer would have changed and improved that much.

Me too I also wonder what exactly is that "Balanced Gameplay". Finaly ffs the lame railgun as been lowered to 90dmg and 5ammo on pickup but that's still a little too much for me. I would have prefered 75dmg. I also really doubt that Q4's rocket launcher have been tweaked to be like in Quake 3. It's the rocket who did most of the fun in Q3 and in Q4 it feels like slow and weird like sh*t. I also extremly miss the excessive gibbing/blood from Quake 3. I LOVE to blow the dead corpse. There's nothing worse than dead corpse disapearing with a ugly special effect after 2 seconds...

Also remember guys, ESReality did a big survey with over 3000 votes about what the community wanted as gameplay enhencement for the 1.3 patch and when it got released, none of all (5-6) enhencement were included in the f*cking patch!

I just did and finished Quake 4's singleplayer (on hardest of course) a few days ago. It was really nice and now that it's done, I was thinking about unninstalling the game since the multiplayer is horrible but afterall I'll keep it and give it a last chance with 1,4. They better not give me fake hope for the 4th time.

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<< Comment #1208 @ 17:40 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1206

I noticed 1.4 patched projectiles to be zero sized ;)

<< Comment #1264 @ 12:29 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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drum4t1c - Reply to #1206

"I also extremly miss the excessive gibbing/blood from Quake 3. I LOVE to blow the dead corpse. There's nothing worse than dead corpse disapearing with a ugly special effect after 2 seconds..."
You are absolutely right; I feel the same. Ragdoll is quite all right, but not 2 seconds body-disappearing...

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<< Comment #1291 @ 15:07 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1264

yeah and q3's knockback was much better as well...remember those corpses falling on pro-T4 and exploding when hitting the ground? a classic gaming moment brought to you by q3.

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drum4t1c - Reply to #1291

yeah, oh when you can tear dead opponent's body into juicy pieces by gauntlet just to show your unstoppable rage... it's wonderful. THAT is the REAL QUAKE i..i. .i..i

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<< Comment #1358 @ 21:44 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1323

I remember spreading the quad damage gauntlet rage all over q3dm4 when I used to play on public ffa servers...good times.

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PanzerIV - Reply to #1323

Hahahhaa! Showing your unstopable rage by blowing up dead bodies with the gauglet... so goddamn funny! lolll I would often do that :D

<< Comment #1332 @ 06:19 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1291

Yea it also happens in real life, why don't you give it a go then put it on youtube.

<< Comment #1359 @ 21:45 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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HammerSmashFace - Reply to #1332

Sounds like a good plan...even though it still feels better in q3.

<< Comment #1207 @ 17:19 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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retire

Patience brings perfection

<< Comment #1211 @ 18:09 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0

So far I have noticed that it harder to move around and do certain trick jumps on 125 fps servers. reinstalled 1.3 and move like a pro again.

<< Comment #1212 @ 18:20 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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Stupified

I would like to have the ability to disable rocket smoke like on quake3 you can use cg_noprojectiletrail

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<< Comment #1216 @ 19:28 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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zzhro^ - Reply to #1212

you can do that in 1.3 :)

<< Comment #1226 @ 21:36 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #1216

no you couldn't, you could do that in q4max

<< Comment #1232 @ 23:38 CST, 9 February 2007 >>

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nexer

Hi there,
I have a problem with this new patch.
On my notebook(Celeron 1,6Ghz , 1GB RAM and ATI X200M).
"Error during initialization." = in SP and MP too.

But on version 1.0 it run without problem.

Some advice, how can I do it?

I have the newest graphics card driver.

Thanks for help.

Edited by nexer at 23:45 CST, 9 February 2007

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zzhro^ - Reply to #1232

some guy i know had the same problem. He resolved it by changing something in the grafic card settings. try messing with mipmap detail or catalyst A.I or something like that

<< Comment #1234 @ 01:23 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Vayne - Reply to #1232

Try installing it over your previous ver. of q4 I tried to install 1.4 in a separate folder and it wouldnt work. I overwritten my current q4 installation and it worked.

<< Comment #1237 @ 03:28 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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nexer - Reply to #1234

I did same procedure as my PC.
On PC it works great and on notebook not.
:( Just blank Quake4 console with "Error during initialization." on top.

Just like some files are missing.

I'll try copy 1:1 from PC to notebook. :)

Edited by nexer at 03:31 CST, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #1238 @ 04:02 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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fur*q

One thing i have noticed from playin for a while is, q4 is now crashing to desktop alot more. It used to happen every few days at worst, with 1.4 it's a few times in as many hours. Once it happend when it was end of game then everybody disconn then crash.

<< Comment #1239 @ 04:18 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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nexer - Reply to #1238

Really? I havn't noticed any crashes. Quake4 1.4beta is 100% stable(for me).

My configuration:
AMD 64 3000+ @ 2,45Ghz
2x512MB RAM dual
Gloria II 64MB DDR (AGP 4x) (1999) :o)
DFI nF3 Ultra-D

Windows version.

BTW I have 50-125FPS on 125FPS server(2-6players). Average 110. :)
Here is my CFG and Screenshot, If you want. www.ce.wz.cz (in Guest book)

<< Comment #1243 @ 04:38 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1238

mine crashes regulary too.

Edited by [CopperHead] at 04:39 CST, 10 February 2007

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Burpy - Reply to #1243

Mine has been crashing as well. On a regular basis too.
I'm not sure if it's Q4 or something is screwed on my computer.

It's always the same executable type of crashing tho.

<< Comment #1241 @ 04:31 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz

* railgun damage lowered to 90, start railgun ammo to 5

:o

<< Comment #1248 @ 05:08 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1241

Yea it's gonna shake up you lazy rail whores. Don't slag it off, just see it as a challange.

<< Comment #1249 @ 05:09 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #1248

im not a rail whore, in contrary even. i like this change very much cause i never even use the gun. ill have a better chance of surviving now plus it will make me even better, this is almost impossible but its true nevertheless. damn im good and getting better even! l33t.

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fur*q - Reply to #1249

"it will make me even better, this is almost impossible"

This can be a champions worst thoughts, be careful!

<< Comment #1252 @ 05:39 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mindz - Reply to #1250

im the CHAMP, ghostface - the champ. thats me. good song. listen to it. all u emo's out there. one note for u: cut ur hair!

<< Comment #1247 @ 05:06 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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fur*q

Ok i noticed another thing too. Being in spec on ffa 1.4 sever feels broken. Very bad feeling of lag and jerky play. If a player stands still there ammo bar seems to flash from the ammo the have to -1 but the colour bit is full. Enemy of specced player can sometimes start to flicker on and of, so becoming like a ghost fight. The 125 frames feels better but only some of the time, it so inconsistent. It seems to get worse as more players join regaudless if i can see them on scrren or not.

<< Comment #1251 @ 05:27 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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BamouT

First of all let me congratulate ID software on this patch, late (very late indeed) but nevertheless a very good patch, lets just hope, that if new comers don�t get in, at least old people come back�

I have not played much on the new patch, but some quick impressions:

Rail, nice job on the gun, a step on the right direction in my opinion, I think 90 damage is a nice number, 5 of ammo at the pickup is even more nice, but, I think u guys should even go further, on the ammo boxes the valour is still 10, I really think that it should be 5 too�

I say this because on a game a I played, I notice that when only picking up the gun I was always very low on ammo, and having to use the weapon more wisely, but when taking control of map, I was picking up all ammo boxes of rail, and the problem of low ammo as simple disappeared, I spawned with the weapon has I liked basically, and that gives too much of a advantage to the person in control, and the opponent having the possibility of getting a rail, has only 5 ammo that can easily miss (like the person in control can, but this one has still an extra 5 ammo beside the 5 he has burn).

On the si_fps matter, I think there should be a option to the client like �max_fps�, and not only si_fps controlled by the servers admin, I know that a lot of people want to see 300 fps, or 30000 fps on the upper right corner of their Quake4 even if that would simple put the game in a lag state, in the possibility of the client controlling the fps, the admins could put the default si_fps value, and resolving the actual dispute (that will rise of tong with time) of fps�

On a personal note, I have much more stability and less lag on a si_fps server of 60 (the best value for me personally so far), on a 100 fps server, I have much less stability and a funny lag during all the game, a 125 fps server is simple the sh*t, unplayable for me, never tried a 80 fps server so far! (I have a amd64 + 3000, GF6600GT, 1GB of ram 400 DDR and a 160 GB sata disk)

An old problem, but still in here, is that with the increase in the number of players the fps start to get more and more unstable, and I�m saying this when I don�t see then simple, they can be on the other side of the map, but on side note, this problem has decrease with this new patch.

And for one last point (on this long testament) a bug, problem, I don�t know, is when watching someone pov, that players looks like is playing like a robot or something like there was a strange lag that is not making the game fluid, It�s like the player is on point x and than goes to point y in a lag mode, has not walked there, has been pushed to that point, I can�t explain much better than this, but I simple can�t watch someone pov if not by a demo.

With best regards, and once again with my compliments to the ID crew (and a special one to sync for is efforts on the Quake4 community) on this patch�

BamouT Halcyon

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<< Comment #1254 @ 08:13 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (p548F7015.dip.t-dialin.net)

The rail change sux hard. Just implement the Quake2-rail and not such a "Every shot a hit"-rail which has such a sucky low damage.

<< Comment #1255 @ 09:07 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid - Reply to #1254

tough learning curve... doesnt attract ppl :p

Edited by [CopperHead] at 09:07 CST, 10 February 2007

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Anonymous (p548F6824.dip.t-dialin.net) - Reply to #1255

But no learning curve doesn't attract skilled people who keep the game alive for years :(

<< Comment #1257 @ 10:29 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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MOTHERRUSSIA

Three things to make railgun weaker:
1. smaller hitboxes
2. start railgun ammo 5
3. 90 damage
I did not play 1.4 yet and will wait for new q4max. It seems as hitbox and ammo tweaks would be sufficient to reduce railwhoring. Can anyone, who played many 1.4's 1v1s already, comment on how does rail feel right now?

Also, I remember SyncError wrote that rail damage would not be reduced. Is it reduced because its still beta and the idea behind it just to see how it is going to affect gameplay?

<< Comment #1313 @ 17:38 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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SmackDaddy - Reply to #1257

Yea! Smaller hit boxes! Maybe you'll stop raping me as much on freeze-tag! :P lol!

<< Comment #1314 @ 18:04 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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MOTHERRUSSIA - Reply to #1313

=)))

Hitbox change wont affect instagib games much such as rail freeze-tag. Everyone's accuracy will decrease proportionally. If one person was hitting more rails than others in 1.3, then that person still will be hitting more rails in 1.4.

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Badb0y - Reply to #1314

rail freeze-tag haha hihi omg

excessive railjump gauntlet-only? :>

<< Comment #1368 @ 23:39 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1257

SyncError wrote that rail damage would not be reduced...

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1326061#pid1326061

<< Comment #1369 @ 23:56 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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MOTHERRUSSIA - Reply to #1368

=)) ^5

<< Comment #1259 @ 11:07 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Heartlesss

If I install the q4 1.4 beta patch, will I be able to install the 1.4 final patch into the same installation directory ?

Edited by He4rTL3sS at 11:08 CST, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #1266 @ 12:42 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #1259

i suppose yes. like it was with 1.2 and 1.3

<< Comment #1311 @ 17:20 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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technics

why do people keep trying to convince the whiners that quake4 is a nice game and want the whiners to play quake4 again? why not just say "good riddance!" instead? ^^

<< Comment #1315 @ 18:13 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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nOv1c3

Does this patch fix the max pak file crashing q4 to desktop ??

<< Comment #1317 @ 18:14 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1315

that would be q4max at a guess

<< Comment #1327 @ 01:42 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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nOv1c3 - Reply to #1317

What i meant was that If you have more than 128 pak files in the q4base folder q4 well crash to the desktop , Just wondering if this patch fixes that issue ?

<< Comment #1328 @ 01:45 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1327

ah righty

<< Comment #1325 @ 01:31 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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xgo - Reply to #1317

noup

<< Comment #1321 @ 20:29 CST, 10 February 2007 >>

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mth

rather than making the dmg and slugs less on the rail gun it should definately be something voteable, 5 slugs for rail is just lame imo(i'm a lightning whore btw), the more i think about it 90 dmg isn't such a bad drop, but changing the knockback on the rail gun would be a better choice :)

<< Comment #1329 @ 02:14 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0 - Reply to #1321

The problem here is the rail got nerfed 3 times. first hitboxes like all weapons, then damage and then ammo count. WTF? It takes a massive amount of skill to run around a ffa using only rail and killing everyone with it and half the time you hit a fresh spawner with it and someone else snags your kill before you get another shot off.
My rail percentage went from 60 to like 20 as it is, thats enough of a nerf.

<< Comment #1330 @ 02:17 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #1329

meaning your rail shots or your rail kills? If its the shots, then youre doing something different or your not used to the new sys. If its the kills, then the nerf did what it should :)

<< Comment #1337 @ 08:10 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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CR0C0 - Reply to #1330

from about 60 percent of rail shots hitting to about 20 percent hitting.
plus each of the hit shots now does ten percent less damage , plus i can make fewer shots because the default gun has less ammo.
granted my rail percentage will go back up with practice but I doubt if itll be 60 percent again with the new system. What Im saying is the hitbox fix was enough of a nerf to the rail gun, nerfing two more aspects of it is too extreme a change.

<< Comment #1326 @ 01:42 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (cpc3-stkn2-0-0-cust642.midd.cable.ntl.com)

Thank god I gave q4 for a 3 pound discount on oblivion before summer. What do you know? I check back al these months later and the game still sucks. o_O

<< Comment #1338 @ 08:31 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1326

Q4 doesn't have enough gnomes, trolls and elves for you? Can't have everything can we.

That will be 12 gold.

<< Comment #1333 @ 06:35 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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falcuma

damn i missed the leet :/

<< Comment #1340 @ 10:00 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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nemecel

I tried this for two days. Sucks on so many levels I wouldn't comment. Not again.

With the exception of saying that I tried this on a "125 fps server", with everything configured to go at 125 fps. The smooth feel was so shitty compared to Q3 that it made me feel stupid.

No way this is gonna get near Q3 with Q4MAX, but i'll try it again, and to say more, i'll wait until 1.4 final. But then again, its not possible this is going to be better in any form than his antecessor.

Said that, this feels like what Q4 0.8 should have been if id (or Raven, or whatever the fuck) wanted to be taken half seriously. Also, this is the last time I try a Q4 patch, since im starting to feel fooled everytime I give a try to the game when a new patch pops up.

<< Comment #1343 @ 13:34 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1340

It's just not the game for you, although i do agree on your last comment:
"Also, this is the last time I try a Q4 patch, since im starting to feel fooled everytime I give a try to the game when a new patch pops up."

<< Comment #1372 @ 09:01 CST, 14 February 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #1343

Not my fault this game is ugly as hell.

<< Comment #1344 @ 14:16 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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qwertytrewq

How can i run quake 4 with 16 bit colors?

<< Comment #1352 @ 17:25 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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morbyte - Reply to #1344

no way to afaik. wouldnt give a boost anyways.

<< Comment #1363 @ 07:20 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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qwertytrewq - Reply to #1352

ok

<< Comment #1350 @ 16:33 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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mindz

im all about the + and post count.

<< Comment #1351 @ 16:47 CST, 11 February 2007 >>

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Bertha

It feels like the clipping problem when crouch-sliding on stairs is more apparent now than ealier (maybe because of the new hit box, dunno).
The weapon hud is also acting strange (I know there were issues in 1.0, but I can't remember if it was fixed - know it is in q4max). When you're out of ammo and picks up the weapon again, it doesnt show that you now have ammo for it.
Great job with listening to and pampering the community :)

<< Comment #1362 @ 03:04 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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PanzerIV

Hard to believe that they can make a Quake game in 2005 (2007 if you count the patch 1.4) worse than the very old one in 1999...

At least if they can't f*ckin enhence it, just do an exact copy of Q3 while keeping the new engine and that would already be better than nothing or than Q4 v1.3 (-_-)

Oh well, I'm off this forum until 1.4 gets final to give Q4 a LAST chance.

<< Comment #1365 @ 07:49 CST, 12 February 2007 >>

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fur*q - Reply to #1362

I really think that if the EMZ guys were to make a "q3 mod" for doom3 this would have resulted in the best possible q4 (making the best of a bad ting)

<< Comment #1370 @ 20:10 CST, 13 February 2007 >>

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mth

if you're going to keep these hitboxes up the rail again it's rediculous trying to hit rails now and especially lg

<< Comment #1371 @ 01:19 CST, 14 February 2007 >>

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Anonymous (bas1-toronto63-1096774460.dsl.bell.ca)

My game crashes all the time now upon install of this beta patch. My game just closes to desktop with no msg. When I open a notepad and hit paste after this happens i get the following msg:

Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION occurred at 101E2261 01:001E1261 C:\Program Files\id Software\Quake 4\Quake4.exe - base address 17550000

Any help would be appreciated, Thanks

<< Comment #1373 @ 13:20 CST, 14 February 2007 >>

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lepow

Make it 10 slugs for tdm/ctf and 5 slugs for 1v1, 5 slugs is way to little for ctf/tdm.

I would also like an option to use the old simple items. They looked better tbh.

Great patch btw! xD

<< Comment #1374 @ 14:25 CST, 14 February 2007 >>

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mth

tbh i think how the rail is configured now it should be votable or something that servers can set. definately agree with 5 slugs is way too little for ctf and tdm, quad rails don't even kill a stacked enemy now isn't that "balanced" enough?

<< Comment #1375 @ 16:44 CST, 15 February 2007 >>

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Bertha

Great patch

I still get a lag when I zoom with MG the first time though. It's like the machinegun zoom animation hasn't been "cached" or something.

My game freezes for about 5 secs as well a couple minutes after joining a server. It only does this once, and then the game runs fine.

These things are nothing new though.

<< Comment #1376 @ 07:44 CST, 16 February 2007 >>

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Derfel

excuse my ignorance but is there a built in benchmark timedemo?

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<< Comment #1380 @ 10:10 CST, 21 February 2007 >>

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Icey|Gz

Ive just read a few pages of this forum.... gotta giggle ;-)
BUT! firstly...

Can i just say my respect goes to syncerror(thanks) for doing his best to try and please people, im sure its pretty friggin hard when we have whiners like troll... snapping and biting. pathetic imo.

RE: troll, if you dont like the game... fuck off sunshine because your getting a lil boring now Ked.. kind regards, bye.

Anyway... whats this with rail??
People that have a good rail/rail based game have now been handicapped... damn joo! YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AT RAIL AND NOT MAKE US SUFFER! ;-)

What next? are you gonna weaken LG???
Also on that note, can you please make LG pin like QW's did? if you do ill buy you a pint ;-)

Oh and sv_maxfps is a bit shitty realy... as most people struggled to get a stead 63 leave alone 125 ;-p (makes it choppeh!)
though if you put a client side maxfps command, will it allow people to do different jumps to the people with the '125fps' ?
HARD 72fps is the majiko number! ;-)

Anyway, lets try and help sync instead of have a go...
If you dont like the game... simple just dont bother whining on here... on the other hand, if you want to improve the game...

Anyway nice one
Icey

<< Comment #1381 @ 06:56 CST, 26 February 2007 >>

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NaAani

The shaft should probably be buffed abit with the new hitboxes as right now the shaft is kind of crapp and the shaft beeing crapp really makes it alot easier for railwhores (and well, it makes the shaft kind of useless which we don't want =P).
I suggest giving the shaft the properties it had in 1.2 (with new hitboxes of course), should work reasonably well.

<< Comment #1383 @ 18:46 CDT, 20 March 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c-69-143-245-215.hsd1.md.comcast.net)

Alright, Q4 gameplay is finally catching up to Q3 gameplay.

I'll buy Q4 sometime this week.

<< Comment #1387 @ 08:48 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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ashr - Reply to #1383

LOLUMAD?

<< Comment #1382 @ 18:45 CDT, 20 March 2007 >>

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Anonymous (c-69-143-245-215.hsd1.md.comcast.net)

Hope Q4 works good on Linux

<< Comment #1384 @ 12:41 CDT, 30 September 2008 >>

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Anonymous (adsl-dyn21.78-99-85.t-com.sk)

toto je picovina

<< Comment #1385 @ 07:48 CDT, 29 October 2008 >>

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Nicky

1386 comments

<< Comment #1386 @ 08:34 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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.syL - Reply to #1385

1387

<< Comment #1389 @ 11:21 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #1386

nono 1391

<< Comment #1388 @ 09:32 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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xou

oh hai!

<< Comment #1390 @ 11:49 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1388

o/

<< Comment #1391 @ 16:35 CST, 14 November 2008 >>

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Dird

more comments than sales

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<< Comment #1392 @ 00:11 CST, 15 November 2008 >>

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Anonymous (c-68-47-225-31.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)

work on getting quake live to us instead of q4 plz...i want to play a GOOD game...

and if anybody at id cares at all anymore what a long time fan thinks...

PLEASE dont ever try to release a quake game on a singleplayer engine again hoping it'll be "good enough", then patch the fuck out of it trying to make it good... like you apparently did with q4...

<< Comment #1393 @ 19:24 CDT, 16 April 2009 >>

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Paladia

I wish QL could get those hitboxes.

<< Comment #1394 @ 11:26 CDT, 17 April 2009 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1393

It could, but it results in a lot of side effects that take a lot of time to test and improve to keep the movement feel of Q3. Even after the improvements, things will still feel different and some jumps that used to be possible no longer will be.

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Paladia - Reply to #1394

Thank you for the answer. Perhaps it's not worth it then.

However, the current situation with the hitbox is not an optimal one. If the target moves at any kind of speed, you have to keep aiming behind him in order to actually hit with a rail. It becomes highly frustrating when you hit directly at the model and the hit doesn't register since the actual hitbox was further behind.

It's illustrated by this picture, with the red box being the actual hitbox compared to a model in motion.

Edited by Paladia at 17:07 CDT, 17 April 2009

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SyncError - Reply to #1395

First off, you can't use Q3 as your example, because this has been slightly improved in QL. All of the player models had been scaled in QL to be the same height -- the height of the bounding box. This not just made all models fit the box better, but when they leaned they barely go out of the box now. Over time we decided to slightly increase the size of them (all) but only slightly. So yes, most of their foreheads stick up out of the box. This was done to make the models larger / bigger targets -- but they are all still the same height and fit the box better than Q3 models do.

That said, many still get out of the box while in their jump animations (especially backflips). Tankjr is one of the worst models to use due to his compressed legs. When he goes into a jump animation his legs fully extend causing him to move upward out of the box. Keel is by far the best to use in general.

Fixing this problem in Q3/QL would require a total removal of all existing models and redoing models so that their animations weren't as exaggerated. Unfortunately this would also give a much different feel to the game. The players could not look like they jump as high as they do (cause right now the models look like they jump higher than the box actually leaves the ground), so all players would 'look' more grounded. Player models could not lean (or lean as much) as they do now.. which would make for some very dry visuals.

Essentially look at Q4 on release. The models were all humans, did not do any insane movements while jumping, the box was sized appropriately to their model height (ie taller, more human proportions), which lead to them raising the view height to make your viewport match where your hitbox could navigate too (so you didn't hit your head on things you thought you should have cleared), and players would have no lean (as they did in Q4 1.0-1.3) which made the models feel like moving sticks in comparison to the exciting Q3 models.

The time to fix this was in 1998. Players should be able to jump higher than they do now (as high as their models LOOK like they can jump), animations should have remained exciting and animated but kept in closer check so that they stayed near their boxes, and they should have been sized in a similar fashion assuming they weren't going to go the class based direction (which is the reason they are sized differently, Q3 was going to have heavy, medium, and light player classes).

We understand the problem greatly. We've coded in debugging tools to observer the bounding box to examine the problem and we hope to make some adjustments to improve things. But the real fix is out of reach in Q3 or QL. Fixing it would change the game you love much more than anyone would imagine. This is one of the reasons most FPS games are all similar looking human models that don't jump high and move fairly slow. =p

The most important change we can make would be to finally separate the collision box (used for movement) and the hitbox (used for registering damage) into two separate boxes. This could allow us to have the hitbox travel closer to where the model is located, while keeping the collision box at its current behavior so that the movement doesn't become affected by our changes. One of the difficult aspects of this is not adding the second box, but is instead things like knowing where the model is in its animation state, where it is located so that you can have the hitbox in the appropriate (new) location. One reason this is so difficult is that every model is different and yet we allow players to swap out models at will (the player may be using orbb and doing a backflip, but you may be forcing them to keel -- these two models would have to have hitboxes in different places to match up where the model is visually located). So even if we pursed this.. it would be nearly impossible as long as we allow players to forcemodel -- and no one wants us to remove that.

Edited by SyncError at 10:57 CDT, 22 April 2009

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<< Comment #1397 @ 10:54 CDT, 22 April 2009 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1396

Holy epic novel batman. Sorry, for the long post.

At least I use paragraphs and punctuation. =p

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Paladia - Reply to #1397

I don't mind being critted by wall of texts as long as there is something interesting to read on the wall :) On the contrary, I very much appreciate your thorough response (it wasn't even a true wall due to the paragraphs).

However, by far the biggest problem right now isn't so much that the size of the model is inaccurate but rather that the hitbox lags very far behind the actual model, the faster you go, the more apparent it is. It's not only related to ping or to lag (it even happens against bots but to a lesser degree). It's most likely some kind of anti-lag code that over compensates. There is no Swedish server at the moment but still my ping isn't too high (around 40) and if the opponent speed jumps, a rail shot from the side at the model will never hit, you have to constantly hit behind him.

What's interesting about this is that I remember no such issues in Q3. In my opinion, fixing this should be fairly high up on the priority list, as it's something that affects all players in all gametypes at all times.

Fixing this problem in Q3/QL would require a total removal of all existing models and redoing models so that their animations weren't as exaggerated.

It may not be an optimal choice but those players who care about such things all use forcemodel, so in reality, to cater to the hardcore crowd it would be enough if one model was that way. Yet at the same time I fully understand and completely endorse focusing on the players new to the game, as it's required for the community to grow and it's the sound thing to do businesswise.

While you are here, do you have any theory as what might be causing this ( http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1681821 )? It seems to be a very common problem and at times a highly frustrating one.

Also, are you considering an Elo-rating (or something similar) for the leader boards?

Edited by Paladia at 05:55 CDT, 24 April 2009

<< Comment #1399 @ 02:53 CDT, 28 April 2009 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #1398

considering cpma with its improved netcode didn't have that problem, i'd say its the antilag of quakelive that is causing this.

Antilag at this magnitude is bad, m'kay!

<< Comment #1400 @ 02:23 CDT, 6 May 2009 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #1396

Fixing this problem in Q3/QL would require a total removal of all existing models and redoing models so that their animations weren't as exaggerated. Unfortunately this would also give a much different feel to the game. The players could not look like they jump as high as they do (cause right now the models look like they jump higher than the box actually leaves the ground), so all players would 'look' more grounded. Player models could not lean (or lean as much) as they do now.. which would make for some very dry visuals.

I don't think many people care about the looks anymore.

I would prefer this seeing done in a mod for Q3, not to hinder idsoftware in their current developments, because
I don't think idsoftware can afford to experiment with this right now(Correct me if I'm wrong).

There are a lot of people on esreality with their own view of how to make a better Quake game.
Some ideas good, some less, but I personally think it would be great to get a list of all the good ones, for the community to select a new modding group out of 'volunteering' programmers/3D artist.

It would make a lot more sense than to ask idsoftware to completely change the game in this stage, while they have so many things to do still.

<< Comment #1401 @ 10:25 CDT, 27 May 2009 >>

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darko - Reply to #1396

Well, i understand the potential ruckus this might cause up in your headquarters, but i'm more than certain the problem is not with the animation and collision boxes, instead, it's the netcode you are using. why? because the same animations were in Quake 3 and in no way shape or form do things like this happen in CQ3.

the problem is that your netcode is overcompensating and it is creating imaginary latency to our real latency.

and you don't need to 'rework' every single model in the game, why not make a new model called KEEL BOX, and have it within boundaries, and you will STILL see the same bs shots you do here (mind u, it's a tankJR, so the shot here should still be on the model, and be a miss, let alone an actual miss like it is shown)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhcs_iEpk6E&fmt=22

<< Comment #1402 @ 10:30 CDT, 29 May 2009 >>

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SyncError - Reply to #1401

We are aware of one issue, yes. arQon was looking into it and we hoped to have that solved soon. We won't have an idea at how much things are improved until that fix is in place though.

<< Comment #1403 @ 17:38 CDT, 30 May 2009 >>

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Paladia - Reply to #1402

So the same arQon who, amongst other flames, told me that "you actually couldn't be MORE wrong" when I tried to explain to him that something wasn't right, is now in charge of fixing the problem?

Lovely!

<< Comment #1404 @ 04:10 CDT, 18 June 2009 >>

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hazrd - Reply to #1403

logs or gtfo