god 100+ comments awaits, this is turning into ch-tv

[+] for the help on the psp ;)

reload stylez \o/

well u were right. :)

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link to your cfg?

wow.

"in the west coast tournament where telnet had 100 ping he played pyro and shot a 44 lg and 60 rail"

*sarcasm invested with the power of the internets* Yeah because those stats obviously prove a cheat. *sarcasm invested with the power of the internets*

man get a motherfuckin clue, especially considering you're on agoddamn dev team

You check old threads looking for something to flame? You seem as unbalanced as Walter.

the hell? i didn't dig this up to flame you or (truly pathetic) walter supporters. i was only lookin up some of his history here. But cmon, walter or not, 44lg and 60 rail over like 70 shots with 100 ping? On bugged ass hub3aeroq3 of all places. Do you or do you not play q3/DM, at all?

so you didn't see tox and fox raping it up in the US with OSP?

yea FOX of all ppl shot a 44% lg during those games vs whoever fuckin jobbers they were LOL goddamn fuckin idiot

want some more of my cock?

who.fucking.cares

when was this game played?

Today.

first demo from walter he didn't upload by himself !?

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go uninstall newb

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says nobody.....

g0tenksss is Nobody, telnet is Royalty :(

Dude,

#2 - EVERYBODY knows gotenks is good.

whotenks?

I dont know where you get me saying im good where I specifically said " go uninstall newb "

Sigh, yet another joke of mine falls flat on its face.... (viju reference)

That's because it wasn't funny and NOONE knows g0t??s.

lol he doesnt hack get over it

PS walter's a rail-skank :E

Walter vs CZM showmatch plz! :D

When will you people learn to just accept that skill can exist outside of a LAN tournament?

This is 10x worse than CS pub nubs accusing the guy with the best K\D ratio of aimbotting, get over yourselves already or find a new game to play if one person who cheats gets to you that much.

You are the first one to mention cheating.

Yeah, because why else do you think this would be posted, honestly?

ignore the idiots here.

best frag around 12:45 :>

anyway, why upload this demo, its boring when players arent equally skilled.

Oh yeah, deffo best map in Q3 guys. I mean lets in depth analyse this.

- Guy gets railed twice
- Guy spawns and gets killed by two direct rockets
- Repeat for about 10 kills
- Guy gets railed twice
- Repeat

strangely this never happens to me, i must be doing something wrong :x

If you would've written about the pro's you probably would've had alot more [+]'s!

87 to -1 that was good demo. incrates your not going to get +'s by hurting hub3s reputation. It was against someone who gives up quite easily but the frags were great on 40 ping Herman[telnet]

wow was this Zup guy serious when he said like "lol you're pretty blatent"?

i mean start by not getting killed 87 times in 15 minutes then you might wanna talk

there aren't many 'weird' shots in this demo. in fact, only three stick out to me:

5:48, 11:53, and 12:31

11:53 looks odd at first, but I was predicted the guy would be there when I was watching the game, too. given that walter practices the map a lot and seems to have the perfect sensitivty for himself, it doesn't strike me as an odd shot.

the other two, though, I can't really explain. it could be luck.

however, even though this demo doesn't have many incredibly amazing shots, it does show someone who is exceedingly accurate (well, accurate in the sense that he hits a lot of shots that look like they miss, but which CPMA registers as hits, anyway), especially for having a 40ms ping (even in CPMA).

my question to you, though, is how do you know this is walter?
all signs might point that way, but this is a random demo uploaded by someone other than himself. he seems to be admitting to it, but he could do that for the amusment of it or because he would be FURTHER accused of cheating by denying it's him, or either the telnet on this site could possibly not be walter anyway.

it is well known that walter has been going around lately playing without cheats and pretending he's "high" so that no one suspects anything. maybe he just got fed up with losing and gave in again.

I forgot to add that other cheaters would do well to use walter's name, so no one bothers to suspect anyone else when they're found hitting 100% rail with 9 million shots.

he's been framed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11.53 the 180 rox after coming thru tele? he does it twice in the space of about 10 secs, dunno =o

i'm not saying he cheats.

though, the day after a PB update was released (just after new year's), walter suddenly couldn't hold his own the way he used to. he didn't tell me he was high, he said that he'd changed some settings. this went on for a few days til i didn't see him playing anymore, similar to some other players who are known (busted) hacks. and then suddenly after another couple of days, those busted players began showing up again with their usual tricks. walter shows back up with his usual rapes.

i'm not saying he cheats. but man, he sure doesn't help his own case at all. i mean wtf, if anything, DON'T decide to randomly change all of your mouse settings just after a PB update is released (defeating a bunch of common hacks), thereby causing you to be "really off" your game and get raped off the server by those you raped off a server just weeks prior, and then so coincidentally decide to revert back to normal when all the updated hacks start showing up again....

i seems to me that 5:48 is perfectly legit. he surely pushed the fire button before the guy exited through the teleporter

so that makes it legitimate? WHY would he fire before going through the teleporter? lolz?

I watched the demo in realtime, and there was hardly anything to indicate that he should fire there. granted, the guy did kind of walk into his path, but that would have been some major luck for him to know to fire.

stop watching it in slow motion.

it's called prediction shooting. even i happen to have similar seemingly weird frags

I know what a prediction shot is, and that wasn't one. there was no reason to predict that whatsoever if I recall from watching the demo. it was nothing more than a misfire or extreme luck if he actually fired on purpose, but I don't believe anyone else would have fired then, especially since he'd possibly die if he missed (maybe not against this guy).

what is so cheat about this? whas just good play by walter keep it up man hope to see more from you !! hf in tourneys !!11111

insane demo,
how does he go @ lan?

He doesn't go to lans. He was supposed to attend cpl winter, but got a job at target (where he can steal stuff easily) and didn't want to risk his job, or so he says.

yes it must be hard for you to understand that there are some people who dont feel like risking their jobs to go to video game tournaments lol

he would have made more in a weekend at CPL (basing this off the fact that he was owning viju prior to CPL) than 3+ months at Target (a common department store).

not to mention viju/cl0ck offered him $600 to attend CPL; another 2-3 weeks wages @ Target making $10 an hour working 40 hours a week (not likely to get those kinds of hours due to so many employees competing for time, even during the holidays). and i'm pretty sure Target doesn't even pay that much considering it was supposedly seasonal work, which normally draws a hair over minimum wage ($5.15/hour in Virginia where walter lives). so the "risking job" thing doesn't really hold water. especially considering he said that it was a "seasonal" job, ie, just for the holidays (which had all of about 10 days left after CPL).

so to justify not attending CPL over that one week period, he'd have had to work about 600 hours @ 5.15/hour in 7 days to surpass the $3100+ he stood to gain. even at $10/hour, that'd still be over 300 mundane hours of stocking shelves in one week. i'm not so good at math anymore, but i don't believe a week has that many hours.

Dood i dont want to betray walter's trust, but the man is poor poor.. hes nearly trailer park poor.

I think you kinda did that with the trailer park thing.
Nothing wrong with being poor so long as you're not a thieving scum bag with it.

I don't know many 19 something's who have a pot to piss in TBH.

just because you're a spoiled little kid who grew up in america, not knowing anything else, doesn't mean shit. walter's house looks nicer than mine and I'm not even remotely poor, especially considered to the rest of the world.

I'm canadian ROFL.

Close Enough!

Why is that so fucking funny? Just because you live in US-appendage state, doesn't invalidate his point nor do you look remotely on que or even intelligent pointing out that you live in Canada with pretentious laugher.

mmm? walter told me himself he's poor. Why would i be laughing at him? other ppl are saying he should get fired from his job to go to cpl.. like why?

he would have made more in a weekend at CPL (basing this off the fact that he was owning viju prior to CPL) than 3+ months at Target

thats just a guess from your side, also you should check out what a double elimination system actually means.

not to mention viju/cl0ck offered him $600 to attend

VERY unlikely he wouldve seen those money had he attended. Even walter said so himself. Also it was apparently worth playing a couple of days of quake, travelling, hotel costs etc for cl0ck to win a mere $1000 and then hand out $300 to some random(to him) internet player just for showing up. Not to mention these people was actually pissed of at walter for beating them(viju) online, how often do we see people handing free money to people they dont like, let alone know lol...

so the "risking job" thing doesn't really hold water. especially considering he said that it was a "seasonal" job, ie, just for the holidays (which had all of about 10 days left after CPL).

I dont know walter but might just aswell be that he can keep the job to work weekends and stuff off-season and doing a good job means he can add it to his resume. It makes a HUGE difference for future jobs if the employers can call previous jobs and hear that he works well, is rarely sick etc. Doesnt matter if its for a future qualified work or more unqualified. Also he might get to keep this job for the next season. But i guess you should immidiately throw away all jobs if short term just might earn a few more peanuts eh?

so to justify not attending CPL over that one week period, he'd have had to work about 600 hours @ 5.15/hour in 7 days to surpass the $3100+ he stood to gain.

No to justify not going to a video game tournament he can just say he doesnt feel like it. That makes perfect sense. I dont see how anyone who doesnt really make a big deal out of himself somehow should have to go to one of these lans tbh.

i'm not so good at math anymore
It shows, that and spotting cheaters from demos.

i didn't call him a cheater, nor do i contend that he cheats.

and you're clueless.

when you get older youll figure there are more to life than playing in the cpl

Amen

dont ever trust anyone on the internet

and he would make more than 3 months worth of target pay by working at target for 12 months.

Do you know the guy or do you just like him becasue he's named after a network protocol?

Come on now be honest!

hrm. telnet isn't really a network protocol. I mean, in the broader sense of 'network,' then yeah, sure. but mostly, it's an application protocol. and many people hardly understand that telnet is even a protocol today; to them, it's just a 'piped connection' or an IP bridge.

anyway, I'm completely impartial. I neither like walter nor dislike walter, and neither think he cheats nor doesn't.
in fact, I really don't care; I was just bored and there was a Q3 demo I knew I'd like to watch, and the arguments on here are so weak that it's like child's play to make people rethink their opinions.

just because I say something doesn't mean I support that something; in fact, most of the things I say have nothing to do with opinion.

opinion would require me thinking about something for more than ten minutes, to be sure.




(P.S. this post was originally deleted. hahahaha. you gotta love it. you just do.)

It's a series of tubes.

Target? lol.

When he said he turned down a $600 offer by cl0ck and viju for going to CPL Winter 'cause he could make that much in a day or two of work, I thought maybe he got an apprenticeship or something. Now I guess he's just full of it -- after all, who at the age of 19 is gonna make $20+ an hour working at fucking Target?

Comment #70 @ 18:43 CST, 17 January 2007
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By telnet - Reply to #50
ffs, people. target was my SEASONAL job, my 2ndary job. i only worked there to make some extra dough in compliment to my primary. i wish people would stop acting like they knew more about my personal life than i do.

ESR would be a bore without the narcissism:)

managers.

i really love people that are on this crusade to prove walter cheating, when in fact, he isnt.

yes they sure make themselves look stupid lol

The American quake scene sure seems bitchy :D

Lol~

still waiting for a walter - czm demo ;)

They don't demo, its the rule czm enforced. So no one can rewatch it and learn his playing style. I only got to watch cuz im leet.

u cant check if someone is recordin :p

No, but you can enforce a code of honor!


















Lame joke, I know. Shut up.

What a stupid "rule". BOO HOO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO WATCH MY GAMES!!1111111111111one

i bet he sucks on dm6 and ztn

Walter is one of the best on dm6. He actually resembles cooller, except with monster aim.

However, on ztn he rushes way to much and forgets strategy.

The weird thing is, he plays fine on nodm9 which is more strat than ztn (imo)

And he used to be a monster on pro-t4, but no one plays that again.

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most people tend to call you a railwhore, so according to most people, and your comment about ztn being railonly, you must be a god on it =)

LOL

dm13 you could argue is more strat than ztn but not nodm9.

pro-nodm9.. same map as dm13..

Yes I know what you meant.

It's FAR from being the same as q3dm13. Go do your homework and come back when you have a clue.

Some bugs are fixed, diff textures, shotgun switched with gren. same fucking map.

far from, it's a bag of shit

Yeah except for it has less health in all the important places, less shards, way too wide corridors, giant door openings at YA/MH, etc.etc. SG/GL switch is utterly retarded.

just prove the haters wrong, try to make it to a lan tourney, and prove wrong. Don't worry bout getting bullied on lan, people talk big online but always seem to have lost their tongue on lan :).

Yes exactly. I remember when destrukt was talking total shit to viju after viju destroyed him in that online tournament. Then at cpl winter viju again raped him off the server on lan. Was pathetic.

This guy doesn't impress me. I can do 80% rail percentages on aero with high pings also.

im sure you can beat czm consistently too then?

demos? no? lan games? no?

2bad...

bingo

walter never beat czm. i just want that on the record for czm's behalf

so the story about czm doesnt wanting to release the demos where he lost is fake?

hi mentalward! :)

lalal, this is pathetic

Just out of curiosity, how long has walter/telnet been playing q3?

He started with instagib, then went to dm17 and ctf. 2 years.

you are to walter as cloud is to kash.


add that to the SATs. :p

where are the bullshit shot? I think I saw a lucky rail at 6:59 but above all I see a player who knows the map, moves very well and has a good aim. quick reactions.

wallhack? not at 3:45. and it's not like he can't hear his opponent. aimbot? no fucking way. autoshoot is Always possible, how can watching a demo help? it's not like he sucks with shaft and rockets.

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oh yea sorry. i was thinking about fragger not you.

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heh, now, if u do well at CPL, ull be drugtested, and thrown out, walter, the first doper in esports, the biggest cheater of all

It´s not like they will test for psychedelics anyway.

Besides, everything except pot is water soluble.

...pot... kettle... black.. hmm

So many people like to cry foul about this guy, so why not organise a small lan near him. Problem solved, no?

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Ahh i see , it's not the cost of travel/loss of earnings. Your just lazy,

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Was a silly joke.

this whole walter thing is very gay...

Agree. Walter, why you don't go to a fucking world tour stop and stop kidding with random internet games.

Why the hell should he have to do anything?

If he just wants to play a game at home when he pleases then let him and get off the bandwagon.

because people have ego problems and need to justify losing games. those trying their up most trying to prove he cheats and just idiots wasting their time, lets say he does cheat and some type of solid proof surfaces what will it change? just a few damaged egos and likely Walter not playing in the few online tournaments, not going to stop him playing quake is it?

I mean it's not as if his 'image' is not damaged already.

i'd like to see a demo of walter on lan and NOT on aero. Would be new stuff.

if its not hub its not worth it

walter is one popular guy lately

a new guy on the block in q3 is big news

sooooooooooo...... walter is gay........ok......

really, this whole story is bullshit. someone accused you of cheating, and to prove him wrong, you posted a .avi of yourself playing quake? like "see, i'm playing, winning, and i'm not cheating". and to make things even more dumb, that .avi isn't anything special. if you had like 90% rail there, there could be a point, this way it makes no sense. just a good aim match.


anyway, i dont care.

link to tha avi ? :D

dunno, its here somewhere something like webcam walter playing

this is more of a www.cached.net demo than a esr demo. stop spamming this site with useless demo's

Shut up stunt. Bitch. aha

haha alias pussy.

Go wait near a jump pad with rail, slut.

haha :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

lol