18 demos uploaded today, what's going on?

no clue. but #duel just finished a tourney last nite. should explain our contribution at least :)

Alchemist03 is back.

feel the q3 power ! :)

since i already have cpma, why not give cpm a shot too ^^
will watch this

this is a cpma vq3 demo.

ahh..i know now too :)

geoff and bio are great players in pretty much whatever game they play. Always names to look out for at big tournaments.

If there's a 15-minute timeout, just use "/ff 15:00" to fast-forward through it. CPMA > * :)

wow, nice !

Useful feature

wasn't that feature jacked from qw?

i could be wrong (might be the other way around), just curious...

Yea, QW has had it for quite a while... demo_jump followed by either an absolute time or +time to jump ahead a specific amount.

had it, still has.

qw started mvd, also (thanks HighlandeR!!!), and basically everything else you q4 noobs take for granted

Nice play.

ya, at least give credit to qw :\

LOL. Cos yeah, it's such a creative idea only one person could ever have thought of it.

The Q2 3.20 release notes.
An example of other features is a fast forward for demos:
alias +ff "timedemo 1"
alias -ff "timedemo 0"
bind f7 +ff

In 1999. Three years before QW had demo_jump (which came five years after most of us had stopped caring about QW, though to be fair I did get interested in QW TDM again a couple of years ago).

ZOMG, WHY AREN'T THOSE *ELITE* QW ENGINE HACKERS GIVING CREDIT TO ID FOR TEH BRILLIANTNESS?!!1!?

I'm flattered that you've got such a hard-on for me boo, but I'm tired of you constantly stirring the shit EVERY time you post just to try and pick a fight with me. If you want attention that desperately, you'll have to find it from someone else. The only thing I can offer you is a place on my ignore list.

glad to see you #care'd so much.

and it's funny how you tuck tail and act like an ass when someone points out that you aren't as original as you'd like to think. you're a good programmer and the contributions you do make are appreciated. why tarnish that by being a complete social retard? it's 2007 now, how about you start with a clean slate and try to be a bit more "reasonable adult" this year?

Didn't Ford steal the wheel from some other guy?Did he give credit? -_- It's hardly something innovative, just useful.

Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing but negativity. Pessimist

point well made

I don't think you should be calling ezquake (plus Tonik for zquake and fuh) developers "QW ENGINE HACKERS". Its disrespectful when you consider what they've done for qw scene.

how can you compare that stupid Q2 alias gimmick with the in-built QW function that instantly sets the demo at the desired time?

for your concern Q1 and QW had the same thing as that Q2 alias long before Q2:
// SLOWMOTION
alias +slowmo "host_framerate 0.007"
alias -slowmo "host_framerate 0"
bind F5 "+slowmo"

// FASTFORWARD
alias +fastforward "host_framerate 0.1"
alias -fastforward "host_framerate 0"
bind F6 "+fastforward"

and ironically calling QW developers: *ELITE* HACKERS only shows how your bloated ego suffers from a superiority complex against anything that isn't your work or your point of view.

sadly, most people judge your work by your attitude and that only is proving quite a dividing factor in the community..

lol raped by the community he constantly and consistently rips off :\

The morons who let someone's "attitude" be the deciding factor whether a game is good or not are dumb fucks.

Then most people are ignorant I guess.

It's fun taking everything literally isn't it? He said "ZOMG" at the start of that sentence for fucks sake, I'm no cybergenius (tell a lie, I am.) but I managed to figure out he was basically trying to get the point across that a fastforwarding feature for demos isn't exactly ground breaking origi-fucking-nality. I can't even believe there's a discussion about this.

If anyone other than arQon had said it there would be zero discussion.

Just people see arQon post something like that and instantly think "AHA WE CAN CATCH HIM OUT HERE QW HAS FEATURE XXX FIRST/SLIGHTY DIFFERENT".

Sure, if he ends with something dumb like "CPMA > *"

Hoony and co. started CPMA from QW and other Quakes. The original will always be original, and QW > * is simply true by definition :p

you should really work on your social skills and maybe stop coding for a while :/

Give the guy a break, he just lost his favorite coffee mug

dont think it was a QW is best thing, i think it was u saying cpma is > * when u didnt think of it urself. ur ego is lol but more lol is that ur the quite guy irl to scared to act like u do on the inet.

Now I see why people do not like you.

How does it feel to have your post destroyed by Aquashark?

Oh yeah, you don't care. Go play in traffic :>

i always got told to play marbles on the motorway

it's a gimmick.. not like in QW

in CPMA: /ff 15:00 means that the demo is fastforwarded (via timedemo) for the time of 15:00

in QW: demo_jump +15:00 would instantly get you 15 minutes ahead

QW *ELITE* HACKERS > ARQON :D

No, Engine mod > mod.

nice nice. i always used [dot] :P

not "dot": ">". Well, on US keyboards at least. Was the only way I'd remember it. :P

re 25, yes: then use \protect in the console to turn the
"don't crap out on every fkn keypess" block back on (or if you're cunning, add it to the end of "one-shot" demo binds).

if i press escape to use some of my binds can i go back into "demo mode"

is there a command to switch off the mvd? I mean to leave out the little screen in the right corner, or at least the sound? bit annoying sometimes

mvw_dm 0
... rtfm next time tyvm

thx, it works, but I don't understand your second line. is that the command for the sound?

=)

Either he truly didn't get it, or you just got owned really really hard.

How does that constitute as owning? More like a LAME EXCUSE FOR SUCKING

oh i just figured out the 2nd one: thank you very much, but don't know the 1st one =).

http://www.readthefuckingmanual.com/

I searched through the docs in the cmpa map and I searched online too, but without result. That's why I asked the question, because I couldn't find it...

it's a known fact that CPMA documentation is dog pooh

but i hope that is subject to change

ORLY?

EVERYTHING is documented. About 95% of it is in the wiki as well: including mvw_DM.

THE first hit for "cpma mvd window off" in Google is this thread: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1229770 from 3 months ago, which also has the answer in it...

The problem isn't the "pooey" documentation: it's the lack of people actually bothering to read it. >:(

You should really put him on the ignore list... :-)

just because everything is documented in some retarded, obscure wiki page doesn't mean the documentation is good or even remotely accessible.

why should anyone want to or have to read documentation for a stupid freaking Quake game modification, anyway? that's absolutely freaking retarded.

actually, the whole fucking thing is retarded. you're not Linus Torvalds, and you're not Richard Stallman.
this isn't GNU/Linux. you aren't making an operating system.

stop with the bullshit. it's a god damn video game.

who's Richard Stallman ?
:<

And you are? Oh yeah, much worse then nobody, you're anonymous... good

???

no, his ip says who it is, kdawg

Oh yeah, of course, Linus Torvards, AKA 245.150-13-37.linux.com

if it's all in the docs, why can't I find the commands in \cmpa\docs\demoplay.txt, where it should be? =)
and still no one gave the command to turn down the sound from the opponent you're not watching.

maybe because this happens automaticaly with mvd off, but I might be wrong.

no I still can hear pretty much all the sounds

thats the downside of mvd

please fix the mvd sound bug. and then document that.

Just wanted to tell you what rtfm means, nothing else.

Docs aren't as good as they could be, but since there's a wiki, everyone is more than welcome to contribute and change.

fuck yeah!!

CPMA > *
:>

Fix the strafe height to OSP standard then i'll agree CPMA >*

till then...

nice game, kinda like the map :)

really enjoy the map =)

ls-al aka TL11087883


lOl

TL071 bastard.

From the few times I've played this map, it seems to be a rape closet. Needs better spawns.

map seems alright, wud like to see a cooller vs czm on it just to make sure!

although this demo, comments were far more interesting than the game :<

haha omgz let's all bash each other!! yea we will solve all the worlds problems then!

How about CPM19? (anybody with experience on this map)

Anybody find any faults with this map? It seems like the transition to VQ3 would be a smooth one.

my subconsciousness seems to consistently agree with that notion...

hahaha =)

true, nice map!

I'd spec/watch demos of a few duels of average-above average players..

I was just trying to suggest the map in the most humble way possible.

Last year I did the same for Phrantic (Quake 4), only to be ass blasted by everybody and their mothers.

I'll just throw this in here. Think these maps are worth looking into too:

cpm12 (But with the RA like the vq3 version!)
cpm15 (RA area is a bit dodgy but the rest of the map is pretty solid)
cpm23 (This one looks interesting)
cpm29 (Same as above)
ospdm2 (Possibly too big)
ospdm8 (Proven decent map)
ospdm9 (Worth taking a look at)
ospdm11 (Could prove good)
pro-q3tourney7 (Excellent already!)

-I'm not much of a fan of hub3tourney1/cpm12, but some people seem to enjoy them.
-cpm15 has been played before, and while it's playable, it doesn't seem that great in vq3.
-cpm23 I couldn't say... it looked interesting to me too at first, but the openness is off-putting.
-cpm29 no thanks. All of the items you'd want to get when you are not in control (YA, 2x GA, 50 health) are in absolute deathtraps. RA, MH, and LG are all up top where you have a large advantage.
-ospdm2 is huge and it looks like an RA3 map. Maybe even big for 2v2.
-ospdm8 is a solid map and it's seen quite a bit of play.
-ospdm9 I can't say much about. It might play alright, but it seems to lack "landmarks"...
-ospdm11 seems like a 2v2 map. It has 3 or 4 atriums and armor is widely spaced.
-pro-q3tourney7 is proven and has several interesting aspects. 3 YAs and a long MH respawn, along with the rail in a dead end.

Also,
-ospdm7 is simple and ugly but seems quite playable. RA/MH side of the map is kind of a favored spot, though.
-cpm19 plays quite well, the flow is excellent. The item configuration (2x YA, 2x GA, and MH) feels nice.
-pukka3tourney5... just rocks. I haven't figured out why yet though. It could be the great number of routes available and the way rooms are isolated despite being right next to each other.

Was tempted to put ospdm7 but I think it would need a different item layout. cpm29 - perhaps with a different item layout these two would play better?

The main problem with ospdm11 is it could proove too easy to run away (ztn/dm6 are similar in size) if it isn't though I can only see it being good

I agree, the pukka map is excellent as well

ztn3dm2??

spawnrape fest deluxe

Can't be any worse than hub3aeroq3 :P

hmmm, true ;)

I love that map :)

ospdm8- definitely should be considered, used to play this a bunch like 2 years ago and always thought it was underrated. would make a nice replacement for dm6 tbh if that ever gets replaced

pro-q3tourney7- good map, rail placement should compliment how good people have gotten with rail nowadays. this deserves a chance in a pro tourney

It's pro tournament tested too !!!! cXg!

and some asus tourneys!

pro-t7 is one of the best 2on2 maps but it sucks so much for 1on1 imho.

"We were playtesting this map for a certain organization that is currently reviewing potential maps for use in their future tournaments."

CPL? :X

NO WAY !

hi. maps that do not consist of 90% stairs now please

yeah and maps that do not contain a million squared areas with boxes to get stuck everywhere...ever noticed why the campgrounds is so great? time to move on ppl...we don't need another q2dm1 cause this ain't q2.

agree
i think people should orient themselves more towards the original q3 maps
most maps try to make q3 something it isnt
no wait, let me rephrase it: most maps are plain shit. among the better maps, most try to make q3 another qw or q2
face it, it worked for ztn. but you cant go from there. create maps that suit the game. stairs/boxes/uneven surfaces, forget it. this isnt battlefield 1942, this isnt supposed to be realistic. its a performance game, everything that isnt flat, hinders movement and makes the game slower and more random
look at every good q3 map. flat surfaces/rooms, on 2 or 3 different levels. a few corridors. max. 2 tele and jumppad. that's it
why cant map makers go from there?

I completely agree with you...give us room to breathe, homos!

What maps for you "work"?

Do you mean like "t2" or like "hub3aeroq3" or what?

Are you talking about all the "pits" and stuff and small changes in height?

he loves tourney2 (which i hate) and is against maps like hub3aeroq3 (which i love) :/

he probably means maps like t2,dm6,ztn and pro-t4 are good maps

Well I agree that tourney2 is getting old, but I like dm6 and pro-T4...I don't hate hub3 but I think it's all about the teles, which is retarded.

15 mins pause .lol

this match didn't really test the map, but our patience