stermys best role model i guess
forever & clamp tie for last

no

:o

you just called your (stinky weird) boyfriend a geek.

kinda loled me

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oh w8 they made me read the rest of it. rolf.

people on irc loled at that statement; "These three guys can teach the important lesson that it is good to take care of yourself!"

i wouldnt ofc, its all about inner beauty and you dont choose the person you love!


tear to my eye ;(

didnt she do the exact opposite?
:p

yeah, i replyed, to myself with another comment, admins are just messing atm tho :)

i always doubted that you would make such a mistake <3

hahaha :X

cant see anything good to troll, gona read

forever a rolemodel? brahaha

GDI everytime I see his name in a Chrome thread I start to giggle.

:o

Great read :D Thanks Liefje ^^

always been a big fan of foxes :/

python \:D/

role models? NO WAI!

TO THE COOLLER FACTORY!

"and causing havoc on the street. That's why the girlz 0f destruction were invited,"


That one made my day :D

gahcomma i sincerily hope people donapostrophet have gaming rolemodelscomma can it get more serious than thatquestionmark

my rolemodel is 240 for actually spending time helping people instead of trying to make money of ze internetexclamationmark

also:

"It seems to be fashionable to just roll out of bed, put pants on and go out the door."

fashionable? i consider myself one of those who does that, but its not because i think "omgs im so cool i look like a bum", it's more of the uncaring side that takes over, who honestly cares how you look if you're going to the store to buy milk?(or whatever) that's not *fashionable*, thats lol! if other people care how one look, thats their problem, not yours.


MRRAAAHHH! :b

ye, long haired beasts hating on looks unite.

TO THE HAIRMOBILE

I'm letting it grow out again, looking a bit 70's atm, dunno if I'll cut it for christmas. How long is yours now fb? Down to the nipples yet?

i actually cut it last thursday, so its like, 5cm below my ears atm!

My hair wins the match. Admit it.

I don't mean it like they need to get dressed up to go to buy milk. I mean in general, I believe it's good for people to take a little care of their appearance!

I know I myself have been caught looking extremely rough and not cared at all, but i wouldn't go to anything important without checking the mirror! Taking pride in your appearance to a degree is not a bad thing. It's not good to be obsessed with it, but just to care a little would really change peoples perceptions of you.

well sure i agree with you, some care about your looks never hurt, but I would never catch myself standing in my wardrobe thinking "does this shirt match these pants?", and again, its not cause i think its cool with the out of bed look, i just dont have enough care to really bother about such things.

i rather put my mind to more important stuff, like what to eat for breakfast, stuff that matters to me!(my god, how selfish didnt that sound)

Why is it good in general for people to care about their looks?
You do realize fashion sense etc. is bound to social groups and the like? Like if you go to uni half of the people might dress like bums in certain courses because it's actually a style for them?
What's the real benefit of caring about your looks? In general?

I'm not talking about buying all the latest trends and all that crap. I'm just talking about doing a little more than just getting out of bed and putting pants on :P Yes, it could be fashion for some but I guess not all occasions call for the "douchebag" look.

The benifit of caring about your looks is that when you present yourself to others you then give a better impression about yourself, because if you care about yourself, it shows not only on the outside but it says a little something about the inside too. It says that you're not the type of "oh i don't give a fuck about anything" person.

I am not talking about going out to buy milk or shit like that. I am talking about going out where you are going to socialise with people beyond "that'll be $2.99 thanks"

What if you ARE the "I don't give a fuck about anything" person? Keep doing that then?

But seriously, meh, I don't _really_ care what I wear, and I can't afford to buy a lot of new clothes, which means I go through the same cycle of clothes (in a slightly different order) each week because I just don't have enough clothes to dress to suit the occasion, assuming there even is one.

Personally, I think you put way too much weight on the importance of looking good for a gamer. If you really want to launch people as rolemodels, it's for a certain characteristic, not a bunch of artificial tacked-on ones that you came up with because you needed 200 more words.

It's not necessarily about the clothes you wear, just like brushing your hair, shaving and generally being presentable :)

I'm not saying that gamers should pay attention to their appearance, but im saying that looking at some younger people today it seems that they are quite sloppy... just look at chavs lol eg: if your pants hang down at your ass, wear a belt :P

I'm just fucking with you, I agree about being presentable at all times (except Saturdays - holy day of hangovers). I just don't agree with fashion victims, people who have to gel up their hair every single day because society dictates that gelled up hair makes you a better person.

dont forget sunday too ;)

What if you ARE the "I don't give a fuck about anything" person? Keep doing that then?

this is SO rare. alot of people act like it for sure, but 98% of them are just talking bullshit to seem cool or whatever. the few ones where you can really tell, surely are my fav kinda people tho $

I had one of those in some engineering classes.

he almost always wore the same dirty clothes, his hair had never seen a comb and he stank. Definately not my favorite people, thank you very much.

Personally, I think you put way too much weight on

Let's hope there isn't a power outage before she can finish reading the rest of that sentence ;P

-edit-
I realized I don't want to argue xD
"Well, I disagree, but I respect your opinion!"

should be ...rolemodelsperiod capitalcan... ;)

oh nose

!

What?

Mmm thats very true too, people who go out of their way to help people is very admirable. But i'm just saying that some gamers can contribute a little in inspiring kids to start a new hobby beceause it seems that bored teenagers are really starting to cause problems!

gamers shud do everything in their power to prevent young kids from joining the scene for their own safety

gaming kills, football doesnt

forever rolemodel = no
forever for best family man of the year award = yes (hence he sticks up pics of them allover his screen @ tourney's)

o yeah, FAT FOR PRES \o/

since he puts up pictures of his parents you should name it "best child award"

kids need real role models not some persons that are mostly made up by the media and faboys. and every second pic that i see of some of these 'role-models' shows them beeing totally drunk/wasted or with some form of dildo on their head or somewhere else ....

ooohh and besides 'role models' writing about how they had to purchase the alcohol for other 'role-models' ,who happen to be under 18, to get them totally drunk is really something.

some pro-gamers should take socrates as their role model.

Ohhh yeah! I was supposed to include him but i forgot :x

8 year old : cooller cooller will you be my role model?
cooller : no.
cooller : INFIDEL.

:::::::::::::::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd
cooller is bestest

LMAO

g0d are my role model, now i like to dress in womens clothing :X

surely you're getting a bit confused with time? :D

No, Liefje sent me a pink g-string, i wear it everyday, i look well hot in it

Thats because I always send the best ;D

I dont really see gamers being role models, not for now atleast. Its VERY few who actually make it to the top and can make a living of gaming. Besides, kids should defenitly NOT look at the gamers today and say "wow, he makes X amount of $ - I wanna do that too", kids should play on their computers for fun, just like they should play soccer, or whatever sports they like - For the fun of it.

I kind of agree, but I think that gamers can be role models in the sense that they're encouraging kids to take up a new hobby instead of doing what I see so many bored youth do today... drinking and experimenting with drugs :x

then tell those kids not to look @ pictures from major gaming tournaments ;)

But are these gamers doing nothing with their lives? No, they are travelling the world to play in tournaments in something they are good at and (in most cases) like doing!

I'm not saying at all that gamers should not party, they travel a long way to attend tournaments and see friends they they would not normally hang out with, which calls for some celebration. There is such a thing as "drinking responsibly" :P and that is another lesson that kids can also learn!

Responsibly being having someone there to roll you back into your room when the night's done (or you are)!

hahah

Atleast my life was very much enchanced by drinking irresponsibly and doing drugs :D and what is a role model, anyway?

You're Finnish and thats awesome ;D That means it's just in your heritage to do that anyway ;)))))

<3

En Finne igen :P

Hey, I'm Finnish too! \o/

woo really? Awesome, teach me some finnish! best sounding language imo :p

i wouldnt say they were rolemodels.

my favourite one is cooller tho, cos his game is very enjoyable to watch, and he has some character. also, hes probably the gamer we know most about. hes just a beast imo.

The girlz send the message to other girls that it's very possible to compete amongst the males without feeling embarrassed or scared in any way.

Sorry for being picky, but if by that you mean that you can compete in male tournaments how come you girls get owned at every tournament? In case you meant that you can get along with the guys and are not handicapped in any way, well it doesn't really need that much of a bright mind to figure that out. 'pro gaming' is no more driven by interest in the game and a strong competitive community, it's driven by a handful of people who can be arsed to practise whatever game comes out and play for money.
If any gamer was ever supposed to be a role model, then it was in the glory days of deathmatch with the nice guys competing at the top because they enjoyed so much what they did and showed great attitude in general. Not roughly 20 players playing a random game for the sake of making money, eating plastic cocks at events and trying to act cool and professional at the same time.

'pro gaming' is driven by a handful of people who can be arsed to practise whatever game comes out and play for money. [...] roughly 20 players playing a random game for the sake of making money trying to act professional.

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...it's true though... I just can't see the role-model'ness of any of them... seriously!?

Yeah that is what I meant and I didn't really think twice about it either so I guess it doesn't take a bright mind to figure it out, but apparantly in more male dominated societies it is a message that we portray.

Please don't be offended personally, I wasn't calling you dumb or anything :) I just don't agree with progamers being role models, especially not seeing as deathmatch (and I guess we're talking about deathmatch here as it's ESR and you list Q4 players) is in a very very sad state. I'm not sure if progaming is something 'healthy' for kids or in general, and especially progaming in its current state is far from being great and something to look up to for todays kids imo. Not exactly high salaries, a most likely unhealthy job and a future far from promising and secure.. nothing I would encourage my kids to do really (if I had any).

Oh I wasn't offended :) I do understand where you are coming from and I know what you mean about gamers now playing not for fun but for money. I don't really mean that kids should look up to becoming pro-gamers, but they should consider gaming as something they can do on the weekends instead of getting plastered and getting into gang fights.

I wrote this article in order to create debate and make people think what kind of example gamers really are setting... and thats exactly whats happened :P

I'd be inclined to say getting plastered and being in fights (without weapons) would actually be better in certain ways

eg being in a fight teaches a young male to stand up for himself the hard way, which is something he will have to do for his entire life in his job/relationships with the other sex and whatnot. Young males also tend to much better absorb things they find out the hard way.

Getting plastered well, i know you mean maintaining a healthy balance between gaming and social life, but face it, its well known gaming tends to overtake social life , Also, some of the most memorable times anyone has tend to occur when he/she is just plain drunk tbh :)

Personally i just wouldn't advise a young male to take up gaming in the semi serious way most esr users do.. the downsides in later life just outweigh the benefits too much. In retrospect i'd wish i had never touched quake 3 also, sure ive made a lot of online friends and some real life ones by it, and ive been succesfull in leagues and whatnot but in the end it just takes away too much from a really healthy life imo (with the obv exception of the real pro crowd who travel 24/7)

You can say that about any activity, but in a way I do agree. Gaming certainly helped me through the awkward 15-17 period, but it's one thing I'm rather glad to be (nearly) rid of now.

I mean, hell, I'm actually enjoying a physical activity for the first time perhaps ever in my life now. Gaming was relevant to me before, but now, it's mostly my past.

What a load of shit.

U SAID A SWEAR, IM TELLING MOMMY D:

ok.

\o/

lol

In 5 years time, cooller will travel around the world to speak at schools about the dangers of having 45%+ shaft.. 'It all started when i began timing items in my sleep...'

Michael Jackson!!! .. oh wait.. LeXer! ;D

lexer LOL... "I got $20, where can i get some sex?"

Perfect :P

)))))))))))))

rofl

Personally, the nicest, most impressive gamer I've ever met was CZM. I mean, seriously, particle physicist at Princeton, debatably best Quake 3 player ever and all around nice guy. I'd never met him before ESWC 2005, but he really was fantastic, and he didn't even dress in hoodies or faded jeans, just white socks, shorts and an old t-shirt.

Honestly, I've met a lot of people who to me fit the profile better than the ones mentioned - socrates_, Lotus, fox, Lauke, Vo0 to mention but a few.

Yeah as I said before I forgot to put s0crates in. Lauke, vo0 and Lotus are also great examples but I was more looking at the active players today. CZM is an awesome guy and I think he deserves to be on there anyway, even if I was just looking at the players today :P

Personally, I think none of those people should be gaming role-models.

I think the rolemodel's are the gamer's who are nowhere near the top, maybe not even neccesarily go to any lan tournaments. The ones who can hold a good full time job / full time education, manage to have a healthy social life, and occasionally play a fair and fun game, while always respecting their opponents. And being able to show skill while not doing huge amounts of practice, practice, practice like every one of the people on that list.

Telling kids to risk everything at a 0.0000000000001% chance that they might make a decent enough living in a profession that doesn't really hold any alternative future after their gaming days are over is silly.

The people in your list might be the most successful or famous players (or your closest friends?), but they are most certainly not rolemodels; they are not the kind of people who's footsteps kids should be following.

They are the awesome kind of people - "I want my rockstars DEAD!" ;D

av3k is probably a good kandidate for what you describe tho, i really don't think he plays that much

Nice article

Not really true about the high pings in Australia, all the people playing on the east coast ping under 40 as a general rule... and in Sydney it's 10-30.

bah how can you call any game pro with a railgun in it (yes i just lost another duel vs a 55+ acc rail only player)

brain > aim

use it more!

rail > brain.

xerp > rail

fatal1ty picking up educational games. THAT'S a role model.

bump'd, and again, no

nice