:x

what mk? 3, 4?

1.8t is good, you can easly soft-tune it or replace it with a bigger turbo
much better possibilities than with a naturally aspirated engine

hf with it
ah yeah and picz, ffs
:)

ye its a mk4, british racing green, with recaro's, interiors mint!!

also ye, u can get em chipped and they go upto like 195brake with no work (just shortens length of turbo life tho :<) which il prob do in a year or two's time when im bored of the current power!

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Cool! 150 hp?

ye its 150 brake

200 when he gets the mega

and 800 with quad damage!

how much is that gonna cost to insure ?

i gotta pay 115 for the next 5months until i renew, then shud be about half that cus il have another yrs no claims and il be 23!

it wont be half that, beleive me, mine didnt drop atall when i was 23, 25 is the drop.

well if i quit my insurance now id be paying 70 a month with a diff company, but playing 115 cus i dont wanna lose my 6months no claims ive got this year, so when i go to renew, id of thort id wud be about 60ish! :))

fair enuf but a drop of half is huge, that would surprise me

im just getting ass fucked by my insurance company now :)

not really, I just paid £2700 for my 1.2 corsa

oh ye, your right, ur getting fucked in the ass!

mate thought you were more the nova type

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not everyone needs "cars" that need a 4 liter engine for 150 hp and sucks up 15 liters per kilometer.

and cant turn corners :)

1.8T w 150hp is hardly an efficient engine, actually far from it
a simple and cheap civic si has a NA 1.6 engine with 170hp, not to mention a lot more reliable than the VW 1.8T engine. mine has only been reason for joy so far

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even a 106 gti gets 130 from a 1.6, so i guess its not that efficient, but its very tuneable! so am not too bothered!

can you please point me to where I said it's highly efficient engine?
If I really were looking for the most efficient engine I would always look for the most fuel efficient engine for a given hp and torque.

Oh and maybe it's news to you but engines actually have two types of output. Hp and torque ;)

yep, and HP is a product of torque and revs
whats your point?

that you obviously need higher revs for reaching those hp and therefore usually burn a lot more fuel. Which in turn should not be good for the efficiency.
Also low torque is bad for the acceleration.

high torque needs higher displacement, so it needs more fuel and is less efficient
also, as long as power is the same, torque plays almost no role in acceleration

"Understanding the relationship between torque, power and engine speed is vital in automotive engineering, concerned as it is with transmitting power from the engine through the drive train to the wheels. Typically power is a function of torque and engine speed. The gearing of the drive train must be chosen appropriately to make the most of the motor's torque characteristics."

and that's all there is about it

Understanding the relationship between torque, power and engine speed is vital in automotive engineering" this one is true, but you should really do it know.

A) You say higher torque needs more fuel and is less efficient. Yes, high troque does need more fuel. But as you said Power is (proportional to) the product of torque and revs.
Therefore if you have higher torque you also get more power which in turn effects the efficiency. The point is you can't say for sure if the efficiency will be better or worse. It depends on more factors.

B) Torque is the main factor in acceleration. period. Yes of course you can transform revs to get more torque nevertheless it still is torque that accelerates you car.

C) If you have less torque and still get the same or more hp you obviously have to run your car at higer revs. And then the efficiency suffers, at least one you have exceeded 2000 prm.

i agree that good constant low end torque usually gets a car rolled faster in 1st gear
the difference, when we talk about car engines, is negligible; you dont need low end torque since you can rev the engine up and let the clutch come slowly while maintaining high revs so you get the car rolling with enough power
also, the gearing has to be chosen appropriately, and the parts have to be stronger if you have a engine with higher torque, which is why bigger engine with higher torques have their place in trucks, trains etc. while smaller high reving engines get their places in cars or especially sports cars
apart from these differences, again, power is a product of torque and revolutions, so in performance, only one value plays a role, and that is power [BHP/KW]

about efficiency, youre right with your statement that it depends on many more factors; and tbh, i dont wanna talk about it, since i dont care about efficiency in performance cars; and if i dont want a performance car but a daily use car, i'll ofc get a diesel

stoneeh out

yea and with a torgue curve of an upside downe V...

would that be a u?

diesel: |\

:D

let me guess, you're 15 and already watched about all youtube videos to get your idea of a "real car"

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im only 25 in a month, i dont know what the hell a pimple is and you post way too much
just cool down a bit and write the rest tomorrow

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archaeology paper n1 :) keep it going guys this is fuckin funny

stonneh u cant allow that

what? i just dont have anything to say to him anymore :)

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If someone 25 is grandpa to you then that explains a lot about your family tree.

well, it makes sense to me (regarding his attitude)

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front end spoilers?

golfs chav m8

maybe a mk2, but a mk4 is not a chav car :x

1.8T VW engine is quite powerfull . I ve checked it out @ Dad's VW Passat. Of course its not NASCAR but its neither a cab.

Anyway Golf GTI V roxx ! :D

i thought europeans didn't own cars. oh, that's right, you're british.

Who cares what think to know about europeans that's like an African talking about the different types of snow.

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white and yellow...

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bad

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what kind of a statement is that ?

lmao, usa is like 10 years behind (west/north) europe.

thanks.

in having cars?

pretty much everything.

thanks.

oh. ok.

you're welcome.

I thought americans were smart. Oh, that's right, you're just retarded.

huh?

you've just proved my point

better than ur fukin cats

yep
it's the flamin that gets you the plussies

aha that sure looks like a car to me :P

yes, but I can't see the horses... :s

the steering wheel is on the wrong side :P

:x

the "0E" on the counter ruins it all :p

<@:)

Nice find!

whats with the extra 2 doors?

makes getting out the back ahole lot easier!

plus, 3dr turbos are hard to get round here :(

what shit photos :P

congrats mate

took with my phone :p

yeah man you should've hired a professional photographer to press the fucking button for you, because we need amazing photos to see your car in this journal!

agreed!

gold!

cool my mum has one of those :)

<@:)

he is trying to tell you that you have a girly car :P

a mum's car... could u give birth in it?

you can give birth anywhere :P

you should know :)

i was boring, done it in hospital :P

did u have a laptop with u to the hospital so u could post all about it on ESR? :P

ewww not the gory details

I GOT THE PLACENTA NOW! I GOT THE PLACENTA NOW!

But was the procedure done in the car? ;)

no :P

really, i didnt get that :p

oh. I'm just jealos 8p

I M P O R T A N T:

Dont forget to belt up yourself !

thx for the advice, i always do anyways <@:)

Germans can build cars I'll give them that.

For chavs like you yeah.

ig-nig-nokt... Yeeeahh

This should be the thread about gamer tags but nevermind.

?!?!?!??!!??!

actually what is ignignokt? :)

google it

urban dictionary:
"Ignignokt is the leader of the Mooninites. He is from the moon and, as such, is far superior to anyone you know. In fact, he would like it to be known that he considers your planet to be his moon.

My name is Ignignokt and I hail from the moon."

ignignokt: hello carl i'm ignignokt and this is err
err: i am err
ignignokt: we are mooninites from the innercore of the moon
err: you said it right
ignignokt: our race is hundreds of years ahead of yours
err: man you hear what he's saying
ignignokt: some would say the earth is our moon
err: we're the moon
ignignokt: that would belittle the name of our moon, which is the moon
err: point is that were at the center, not you
carl: no the real point is i don't give a damn
ignignokt: is your ego satisfied?
err: damn no
err: look room for rent
ignignokt: yes room for rent

That's pretty much accurate.

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proll-car.

lo new car m8

y green?

ye nice car but not green, black!, but green is cheaper

black wud of been nice, and ye, i wasnt a big fan of the colour at first, but its really grown on me!

well, nice car eitherway:D

haha grown on u nice double innuendo!

Yeah ,, Black is nice (IMHO .. I used to own a 95 Black Golf) but it's nice only the day that you wash it .. the next and a little dust the black color amplifies the "dust effect (tm) :P " and people will start writing on the dust "Please Wash Me" .. :)

heh, manly.

It's a car...

5000 EUROS :) good for cheap driving :)

£3900 i paid which is prob bout 5ish euros..

5,824.71 EUR

Where I'm from, you're either a girl or gay if you drive one of those. Oh well, it's german at least.

lol, its not even concidered girly where im from :<

Remember he's from Sweden, they do things slightly differently. Whats considered manly to drive in Sweden is the new VW Beetle in pink.

"rofl"

I actually like pink.

what a bump!

Golf $

u know yellow license plates is for beginners :D (read: dutchs)

license plates are for beginners.

thats the standard colour here for everyone!

go figure :>

<@:)

white at front, yellow at back.


fuckin noob

p6a
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Polar ice caps, fossil fuels, the ozone layer...oh dear.

who needs them? ;/

Polar Bear's, my car and the uk needs all the hot weather it can get so the ozone can burn its nuts off. me me me.

yeps...

dird steals shit like that

Here picture of mine cleaned, polished and waxed. Got her in March

wheres the pic? [edited for u cus u forgot tags]

i washed and polished mine on monday, did a terrible job tho :(

very nice car dude, that looks mint!

Nice, looks great. What model of Seat is that?

Seat Leon FR

Nice car!
Congratz, man!

I've got a MK 4 of my own, they're very solid cars and great performers.
i recently aquired a BMW series 3 so i'll be selling mine, which is a shame. The Golf IV was by far the car that I enjoyed the most so far.

bmw series 3 is so ...
sry, but only idiots drive those cars, dont get one

Dont be silly. Although i'd agree that they are very common cars they are also very good cars depending on engine and trim level.

they may be good cars, i dont know tbh, but i know what ppl drive those cars. and thats enough for me ;)

Nice m8 :) GTI engines are suberb :D

im in love with it :x