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Hello, Sujoy!
So now I had to browse and read even more comments on the thread to find out what has been said in the first place, because some cleverboy decided not to keep the post.
For once, the so-called stagnation of this forum. But what does it mean? Is it supposed to go somewhere, achieve the surface of Mars or anything? Wait, maybe people wanna say that this forum has been going down!
If that's the case, you have to consider a few things. Funny thing is that if you bother looking through older comments on this forum, you may find a lot of aggressive users in the past, guys which would make most so-called aggressive users from the present look like sheeps. I think it would be quite decent to say that the dicrease of the quality of this forum is caused by old users getting older, not caring abt the forum with its discussions and not caring abt the game (especially Quakelive now), this especially because the game was going down for some time already. By who's fault? First by id's fault, because they refused to add crucial things to quakelive, like gtv. Because their pocket might be small, but their ego is big. And because the scene moved on. They, the many don't preffer quake, they preffer starcraft 2 and other games. If the competitional scene is almost dead, it is quite hard for the community to remain fresh and vibrant, whaddya think Demiscourge? So if there is a dicrease in the quality of the forum regarding its content, decrease in smart comments and interest showned by the user, users and admins should not wonder.
What is quite sure is that by putting an end to people's word by so-called moderation, however you wanna call it, is a political decision, which direction is quite clear. You -admins of this forum -base this political decision especially on two factors:
1) that people should not spam the threads with useless comments, especially trolls; in this regard there is the ignore function which serves us pretty well
2) that some people are aggressive, especially with racist comments all the way; well, regarding this matter you gotta admit that the esr users do live in real world so they have contact with other people, do hear things here and there; you cannot totally ignore history nor nuke what's going on outside this forum, especially the economical crysis and that fact that many of the causes however incredible might look, funny, after almost 100 years are still continuing to point towards the jews; please ask yourself in the first place why do people talk abt them and why evidences are pointing towards them; also as I said some time before, you can't ignore nor nuke a few millions of turks who are living in germany and will be more and more numerous, till the germans will represent a minority in their own country; think that all the germans will just acept to be overwhelmed? don't you see what gypsies did in europe and how many they are, at the point that some when they say romanians they think "gypsies"? it has been recorded the increase in racism tendencies all over the world, especially in Europe, because civilised countries are under siege by these other nations from Africa and Asia and they will fight for their right to keep what they have been gained in the long process of their evolution, as civilised state and people; unlike americans, the europeans don't wanna give away their history and their hard earned values, because they fought for much longer than the americans for these values, values which again unlike to the americans, were not formed with and by multiculturalism; connect the demographic factor with the recent economical crysis and you can see very well why this racism is (still) increasing; I don't think that shutting people's mouth will solve anything anyway, it would just probably become worst for the inquisitors over time; which finally brings us to the real problem, which is...
Sujoy. I find pretty hard to think that he did not decide to take action when he has seen the increase of true racism (why lie and hide behind trolls, true racism) on his forum. He might have a lot of things to carry on, he might not. He or someone has been pointing out these facts. So don't blame demiurge, for he is just the perfect puppet for what real politics want him to do. You did not think that a site who's founder is an outsider (from a pure point of view towards his origins), so you did not think that a site created by him would be let "let it be", once there will be "alarmant" signals of racist, anti-CIA, anti-government and generally anti-order behaviour, did you? Pls keep in mind that most of these anti-whatever posts, however hursh some might sound, they have at their base good intentions and in order to meet the quote you should aknowledge that good intentions represented by nice words could hide different things behind, while tough words might do exactly the opposite. So much for your language!
Yeltsin deserves to be hanged for accepting to be the leader of this political orientation on this which, I have to tell you one more time, Sujoy initiated, along with his helpers, but he -demiscourge -is not the initiator.
I have been posting on planetdoom for abt 3-4 years before moving to esreality. With one specific omission, my comments have been approved every time. But when I have been starting a thread in which I attacked id Soft., comparing the members of this company to preaching priests which do not follow the rules they preach, admins censored my thread. I did not use words with f* or anything, just said that id Soft. in my opinion is exactly like those priests in religion. It was my sincere thought and it was the result of my deepest regret for the failure of what supposed to come out a great game, Doom3. Their new game, Doom3 did not leave to most people's expectations: horrible graphics (brute stencil shadows and lack of shaders), horrible gameplay (superliniar and nonexistent A.I., weapons felt like toys), etc. Anyway one censorship was enough for me to left planetdoom.
I lived a serious amount of time under the communist regim (russians and their ideals...).
I am not a little kid to have other people decide what I may say and what not.
Here the site is now full of admins who just become traitors overnight. Someone censored once one image I uploaded in the thread where 2GD and the horde proposed to change dm6 for competitive purporse (michalengelo would laugh over their intention), when I drawed the map upside down (ironic post of course), it was long time ago, but some admins licking 2GD's balls were pretty much on that subject. For them it become personal.
If this censorship is part of some sort of grewing up procedure, I don't get it how can you prove that you grew up by letting other people shutting your mouth. What will you tell to your kids: 'I grew up, in other words I kept my mouth shut'? What new users, young users learn is that you can't say what you think else there will be consequences. You admins do not learn the people that they are in charge and that they have power, you just show the young people your power. This is a lesson of obedience. Wanna talk more about maturity?
So you see, none of the reasons presented to you till here are reasons enough! So...
Let's better talk politics. Because this is... all about!
From my point of view, being forced not to say whatever you have in mind is a form of restriction. Whatever people wanna say, you who make the decision do not let people telling me what they wanted to say. It is my decision and my faculty whether I wanna listen or not, maybe there has been said something of interest, maybe not. There has been a documentary abt americans these days on sum channel, just a few days after my inceptive 'americans vs europeans', and the documentary was saying that at the beginning of XX century one guy who was coming for the 1st time in USA found out that the level of democracy and liberty of the individual was overwhelming, almost unreal, by working so much for the individual, even against the rights and liberties of the masses, and this is the paradox of capitalism. Please in mind that when he say abt individual it is all about the usual individual, not the individual the admin, the boss, the sujoy. The power of the many working in favour of the many against the expression of the individual, which esr wanna aply now on users, is of communist nature. Talking abt USA again, does CIA know that a gaming site who's owner is leaving under capitalist regim and rules, is proposing itself to live by communist rules? In order to dominate people's mind you have to keep their attention and then to teach them who's their boss, and people's mind right now is on the Internet, some on this forum. I'd say communism-capitalism score on this forum is now 1-0. If this is the plan of the CIA, then I might say that they are thinking it all wrong.
Let me explain. So you admins are a wall I did not ask for (maturity comes pretty much against freedom, like someone said, well yeah this is some sort of maturity, for those who don't have an alternative and those who like to be under command and for dumb people who accept to stay between talking people, like perfect attention whores: I want to say something to people i.e., not to you, you admins should fuck off gently, whaddya say?). Till now I did not have much in common with administration, not even knowing who was admin and who's not. Now I find some strange guy who's ideas I dunno but the important thing is that I don't wanna know or if I want to know I should find out by usual methods, so I have a guy staying in front of me, telling me what I should read and what not. He is the new invisible wall.
And how ironic, russians are involved again )))
The communist blocade was great if you was the commissar and the wall of Berlin will grow again with the help of outsiders (Sujoy, go back to Africa where people are shot for having an opinion, seems that you belong there). It is not a racist comment, but a comment containing some much deeper sense, like the culture and the habits of the people who's genes you might possess, and which genes might be at the peak of Africa's problems. Am I just forming a new discrimination law, one based on genes or am I just using statistical science supported by solid evidence (the case of this site) and perpetual political communist orientation in Africa towards the russians?
P.S.: don't worry, if you will delete the thread I will post it again on other gaming sites, like quakelive forums
So now I had to browse and read even more comments on the thread to find out what has been said in the first place, because some cleverboy decided not to keep the post.
For once, the so-called stagnation of this forum. But what does it mean? Is it supposed to go somewhere, achieve the surface of Mars or anything? Wait, maybe people wanna say that this forum has been going down!
If that's the case, you have to consider a few things. Funny thing is that if you bother looking through older comments on this forum, you may find a lot of aggressive users in the past, guys which would make most so-called aggressive users from the present look like sheeps. I think it would be quite decent to say that the dicrease of the quality of this forum is caused by old users getting older, not caring abt the forum with its discussions and not caring abt the game (especially Quakelive now), this especially because the game was going down for some time already. By who's fault? First by id's fault, because they refused to add crucial things to quakelive, like gtv. Because their pocket might be small, but their ego is big. And because the scene moved on. They, the many don't preffer quake, they preffer starcraft 2 and other games. If the competitional scene is almost dead, it is quite hard for the community to remain fresh and vibrant, whaddya think Demiscourge? So if there is a dicrease in the quality of the forum regarding its content, decrease in smart comments and interest showned by the user, users and admins should not wonder.
What is quite sure is that by putting an end to people's word by so-called moderation, however you wanna call it, is a political decision, which direction is quite clear. You -admins of this forum -base this political decision especially on two factors:
1) that people should not spam the threads with useless comments, especially trolls; in this regard there is the ignore function which serves us pretty well
2) that some people are aggressive, especially with racist comments all the way; well, regarding this matter you gotta admit that the esr users do live in real world so they have contact with other people, do hear things here and there; you cannot totally ignore history nor nuke what's going on outside this forum, especially the economical crysis and that fact that many of the causes however incredible might look, funny, after almost 100 years are still continuing to point towards the jews; please ask yourself in the first place why do people talk abt them and why evidences are pointing towards them; also as I said some time before, you can't ignore nor nuke a few millions of turks who are living in germany and will be more and more numerous, till the germans will represent a minority in their own country; think that all the germans will just acept to be overwhelmed? don't you see what gypsies did in europe and how many they are, at the point that some when they say romanians they think "gypsies"? it has been recorded the increase in racism tendencies all over the world, especially in Europe, because civilised countries are under siege by these other nations from Africa and Asia and they will fight for their right to keep what they have been gained in the long process of their evolution, as civilised state and people; unlike americans, the europeans don't wanna give away their history and their hard earned values, because they fought for much longer than the americans for these values, values which again unlike to the americans, were not formed with and by multiculturalism; connect the demographic factor with the recent economical crysis and you can see very well why this racism is (still) increasing; I don't think that shutting people's mouth will solve anything anyway, it would just probably become worst for the inquisitors over time; which finally brings us to the real problem, which is...
Sujoy. I find pretty hard to think that he did not decide to take action when he has seen the increase of true racism (why lie and hide behind trolls, true racism) on his forum. He might have a lot of things to carry on, he might not. He or someone has been pointing out these facts. So don't blame demiurge, for he is just the perfect puppet for what real politics want him to do. You did not think that a site who's founder is an outsider (from a pure point of view towards his origins), so you did not think that a site created by him would be let "let it be", once there will be "alarmant" signals of racist, anti-CIA, anti-government and generally anti-order behaviour, did you? Pls keep in mind that most of these anti-whatever posts, however hursh some might sound, they have at their base good intentions and in order to meet the quote you should aknowledge that good intentions represented by nice words could hide different things behind, while tough words might do exactly the opposite. So much for your language!
Yeltsin deserves to be hanged for accepting to be the leader of this political orientation on this which, I have to tell you one more time, Sujoy initiated, along with his helpers, but he -demiscourge -is not the initiator.
I have been posting on planetdoom for abt 3-4 years before moving to esreality. With one specific omission, my comments have been approved every time. But when I have been starting a thread in which I attacked id Soft., comparing the members of this company to preaching priests which do not follow the rules they preach, admins censored my thread. I did not use words with f* or anything, just said that id Soft. in my opinion is exactly like those priests in religion. It was my sincere thought and it was the result of my deepest regret for the failure of what supposed to come out a great game, Doom3. Their new game, Doom3 did not leave to most people's expectations: horrible graphics (brute stencil shadows and lack of shaders), horrible gameplay (superliniar and nonexistent A.I., weapons felt like toys), etc. Anyway one censorship was enough for me to left planetdoom.
I lived a serious amount of time under the communist regim (russians and their ideals...).
I am not a little kid to have other people decide what I may say and what not.
Here the site is now full of admins who just become traitors overnight. Someone censored once one image I uploaded in the thread where 2GD and the horde proposed to change dm6 for competitive purporse (michalengelo would laugh over their intention), when I drawed the map upside down (ironic post of course), it was long time ago, but some admins licking 2GD's balls were pretty much on that subject. For them it become personal.
If this censorship is part of some sort of grewing up procedure, I don't get it how can you prove that you grew up by letting other people shutting your mouth. What will you tell to your kids: 'I grew up, in other words I kept my mouth shut'? What new users, young users learn is that you can't say what you think else there will be consequences. You admins do not learn the people that they are in charge and that they have power, you just show the young people your power. This is a lesson of obedience. Wanna talk more about maturity?
So you see, none of the reasons presented to you till here are reasons enough! So...
Let's better talk politics. Because this is... all about!
From my point of view, being forced not to say whatever you have in mind is a form of restriction. Whatever people wanna say, you who make the decision do not let people telling me what they wanted to say. It is my decision and my faculty whether I wanna listen or not, maybe there has been said something of interest, maybe not. There has been a documentary abt americans these days on sum channel, just a few days after my inceptive 'americans vs europeans', and the documentary was saying that at the beginning of XX century one guy who was coming for the 1st time in USA found out that the level of democracy and liberty of the individual was overwhelming, almost unreal, by working so much for the individual, even against the rights and liberties of the masses, and this is the paradox of capitalism. Please in mind that when he say abt individual it is all about the usual individual, not the individual the admin, the boss, the sujoy. The power of the many working in favour of the many against the expression of the individual, which esr wanna aply now on users, is of communist nature. Talking abt USA again, does CIA know that a gaming site who's owner is leaving under capitalist regim and rules, is proposing itself to live by communist rules? In order to dominate people's mind you have to keep their attention and then to teach them who's their boss, and people's mind right now is on the Internet, some on this forum. I'd say communism-capitalism score on this forum is now 1-0. If this is the plan of the CIA, then I might say that they are thinking it all wrong.
Let me explain. So you admins are a wall I did not ask for (maturity comes pretty much against freedom, like someone said, well yeah this is some sort of maturity, for those who don't have an alternative and those who like to be under command and for dumb people who accept to stay between talking people, like perfect attention whores: I want to say something to people i.e., not to you, you admins should fuck off gently, whaddya say?). Till now I did not have much in common with administration, not even knowing who was admin and who's not. Now I find some strange guy who's ideas I dunno but the important thing is that I don't wanna know or if I want to know I should find out by usual methods, so I have a guy staying in front of me, telling me what I should read and what not. He is the new invisible wall.
And how ironic, russians are involved again )))
The communist blocade was great if you was the commissar and the wall of Berlin will grow again with the help of outsiders (Sujoy, go back to Africa where people are shot for having an opinion, seems that you belong there). It is not a racist comment, but a comment containing some much deeper sense, like the culture and the habits of the people who's genes you might possess, and which genes might be at the peak of Africa's problems. Am I just forming a new discrimination law, one based on genes or am I just using statistical science supported by solid evidence (the case of this site) and perpetual political communist orientation in Africa towards the russians?
P.S.: don't worry, if you will delete the thread I will post it again on other gaming sites, like quakelive forums
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