If it's OSP it's capped at 125 for online play afaik.

In CPMA fps doesn't matter as far as psychics goes, if you are above 100 you should be fine. Why would you want 333 anyway, trick jumps? In actual duel or tdm all jumps can be done with 125.

i have seen alot of ppl in the server i play that seem to have a higher rate of fire. The one common thread with these players is them using the 333fps command. Maybe its my imagination, but i've also read numerous online post about q3 engine games having this affect on 333fps. I intitially thought it may be the newer mice with higher sample rates giving this effect.

no, it was fixed (or rather: disallowed to use higher fps) in both osp and cpma. other players do not have a higher rof than you :)

Dont you bug you hitbox with 333fps? Make it smaller or something?

no. you must be thinking about the "blue bug"? that was something else and mod related iirc.

As ger1 said, online play is capped to 125fps in OSP, and the cpma physics are frame-rate independent.

I'm not sure about vanilla Q3, and I presume it's an option in defrag?

nothing to do with physics, 333 is just smoother than 125 @ 75 Hz presumably (I dont have an lcd)

In cpma, I presume?

yeah, but apparently that's not what he's talking about

Yeah, I think he wants 333fps for the higher jump height by the looks of things.

its capped by the client

I think terifire had an uncapped version of cnq3, pm him

I think you guys may have helped me. I have to wait to get home to try it to be sure. I have an OSP file in my base folder to give me the OSP models on all servers. This file may be whats capping me when i try to go online.

Ill check back when i know for sure but your description is exactly what im experiencing.

even if you'd find a way around the fps cap that would be considered a cheat, but whatever... i doubt you find a way anyway.

I understand alot of mods may disable it, but i know for a fact 2 of the mods im playing the other players are using it against me. Being as how there are only a few servers active around me, i want to be on a level playing field with the others. Thanks for the help, I am going to have a toggle for on and offf based on where im playing at the time.

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yeah, no hard feelings, i'd use it aswell, always thought it was kinda fun tbh.

What's fun in it?

different physics.

less gravity resulting in higher/longer jumps, floaty feeling overall. fazz (and fox too?) among others used it first iirc, i have a demo on osp5 somewhere of a cb game.

from what I've seen their osp configs were at 125 or even at 120 maxfps, fox even had 75 at some point

yes, it was banned rather quickly. 75fps probably were from 75hz tft times, i wouldn't recommened doing that.

I myself have a 75 hz tft, I use 125 though (OSP vq3)

my biggest thing was the feeling of being outshot by people using it. Ive read a couple places that it does increase the rate of fire and it seems true when i play against people that have it on.

Removing an OSP file from base did remove the cap, but the game was very laggy. Not sure that ill use it now that ive tried it.

The mod that i still play that people are using it is Efreeze and some FFA, nothing serious. I just dont want to bring a bike to a car race ;)

There is no way to increase your rate of fire. 333fps can only make you jump higher, if the client allows it.

I've been playing quake 3 since it came out, like a lot of other people on this site.

what he said, it does not change your rate of fire. higher fps effect jump height and lenght and grens (a bit).

I heard of 333fps increasing the rate of fire in CoD I think (well I read about it on some forums) I strongly suspect that it was just a rumour though, but 333fps does feel extremely weird.

Thats the same ive been reading about q3 engine games. Im going to figure you guys are right and just not worry about it. I actually like playing at 125 better with my 120hz lcd as long as im not handicapping myself. I constanlty over jump everything at 333.

So you guys think nothing would increase the rate of fire as in the new mice either? Just seems like some players are in excessive mode.

The rate of fire is set by the game engine, and the tic rate is set server side, therefore everyone would have the same rate of fire. You cannot change this on the client. Most likely the people you are playing are just better than you and have better aim and weapon switching. For example:

We are both using lightning gun, but I kill you in what seems to be an even fight, but my accuracy is 10% higher than yours. This could seem that my rate of fire is more, but actually I am hitting more.

Or, with the rail gun, instead of waiting for a clear shot, I will just hold down rail after my first shot, therefore it can seem that my rate of fire is faster, but actually I am just firing at the highest rate you can. (I usually don't do this, as I have been playing for years and know by instinct when the next time I can fire is)

In CoD the rate of fire could be exploited if you had the shoot stuff on your scroll button, CoD 2, even in CoD 4 if you scrolled fast you could make a desert eagle a machine gun. Big recoil though. I used to play CoD 4 with a G3 and in that abomination of a game it's half auto but using the scrolling I could shoot full auto (the way it's supposed to be)

found out my diff in rate of fire was not loading the mod files. Apparently shooting faster is part of the efreeze mod. Ive been playing along time, it was obvious there was a difference. Took a while to figure where the difference was coming from. Actually loaded all the mod file and all is good.

Thanks for all the input

Dood you cant play on a server if you dont have the mod file, so no matter what mod it is everyone will be firing the same rate.

I dont think you understand how mods work, you mentioned removing osp files, all that means is that you cant play on OSP servers without out downloading the osp files.

So having efreeze or what ever files dont make a difference if you join a osp server. When you play offfline you most likely playing vanillia quake so it allows 333fps, you join a osp server you'll be on 125max and you join another mod(im not sure what efreeze is, im guessing freezetag?) then you'll get whatever max fps that mod allows.

So it seems you're joining a bunch of different servers running different mod which some of them allow more fps and different weapon setting(excessive etc)

Just play ql?

someone should ban fazz for using this in an official tournament

3 minutes :p

someone should ban everyone else for not being as awesome as fazz in an official tournament

you sir, probably did not get the joke

must be some german humor

nah not really, guess it was befor you started playing quake or something... 2002 or 2003, some online invite tourney

To all the people who claim that your rate of fire does not increase with 333fps I can tell you that's a lie. In cod it actually does increase ever so slightly (Don't know the exact timing) and it also allows you to jump higher. 500fps allows you to move around the map like you're skating on ice and you also don't make a sound.

op says quake3, what the fuck are you talking about???

CoD uses a modified Q3 engine.

Yeah but some dudes had a mid convo about cod and it was directed at them soz

Physics in the original Q3 engine have always been terribly fucked at 333 or 500fps (ever tried 1000? D: ), dunno about the rate of fire but since the maxpackets is limited to 100 I'd say 100/200fps is actually better for gunfights anyway.

I knew a CoD player who did that; using 100fps most of the time and switching to 125 with a bind when needed.

mp was 125 in the end, not 100. maxfps was locked at 125... 125/125 was the best setting possible and no nothing of it changed RoF.

It wasn't clear in my post but I meant that most games using some odd version of the Q3 engine (such as CoD) kept the mp 100 limitation, but yes Q3 was updated making 125/125 possible and preferable (and obviously OSP and CPMA kept that :P ).

ok, you CoD people confuse me to no end, i'll shut up now :p

Well your almost right 333 lets you jump the heighest (18.5% to be exact). Atleast that is what the quake engine calculator from funender says.
As for the others:
125 is the standard: max packets in quake3 is 125 I believe. So that makes sense information you see this way is in sync with the server in order to get the best hitreg.
In cod2 and later installments though max packets are at 100 max so it makes sense to use a maxfps of 100 or 200 to get the best hitreg in that game. (the first cod uses 125 max btw)
500 does absolutly nothing special
1000 tried myself although probably not possible to keep it steady even for the most top of the line system. But this lets you like float really strange feeling with the game (tried in cod4 indoors with the lowest of the lowest settings with a very high end cpu and even that bottelnecked). Also tried it online and it made the graphics glitch :D like crazy. All the fences were messed up and floating and I could see people behind it when on certain distances. Maybe has the same effect on quake but not sure.
Well that is like all I know about it