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lol long awaited movie made in movie maker. Looking forward to watching this masterpiece when I get home.

gekko pic requested

should be doing a facepalm

I'm glad I didn't donate for this.

high quality! from the bottom of dem0ns heart.. made with scrollwheels only

alrighty then, this was ... something different. The glamorous life of LANs from a shaky camera as fuck.

! give you +1 for the almoast effort, after how much time? :)

This video is gold. Those cheap transitions and the fact that for more than a half of the video nothing is happening make it awesome. 10/10

oscar nomination inc ;))

I dont know why, but this movie has this 90's feeling...

Huge thanks again to all who (...) supported us going through this tournament.

By the way, how did you play against welp? It wasn't on stream, so there's no VOD, and I can't find the actual results anywhere. The brackets just show that you lost 2-0.

All I remember was that it wasn't a rape lol.

The fact that you don't remember how you got eliminated is indicative of how little your team cared about the tournament, right?

edit: Don't understand this as a personal attack, but it's unlikely that Spart1e/silencep/exodus show up on ESR.

We cared a lot but certainly didn't give our best. We overestimated our chances a bit is a more plausible explanation.

As for remembering goes, I don't know what to say, I can hardly remember everything that happened after I just played a teamgame nowadays, already focusing on the next one.

I reckon we played japanese castle and that arcane citadel map - can't remember scores but we stood no chance on that fps-drop map and we gave them a run for their money on japanese castles.

Thanks for the explanations and for trying to remember.

My personal conclusion from Expendables at Quakecon 2014 is that it made no sense whatsoever to cheer for you. You got eliminated off-stream, and nobody seems to know the result. Your video documentation would have been the ideal format to recap your tournament, and e.g. to discuss why you lost against welp on Jap Castles, or why you dominated SAKE on Spider Crossings item- and fragwise but still lost. What the video should have provided for the viewer is experiencing your team's passion and knowledge about the game (together with the silly stuff).

Maybe you had this kind of stuff in my mind, but the way it turned out it clearly contains no Quake at all. We literally see ins and zoot playing, which is as irrelevant to your team as it can get. It's very disappointing.

So, this means that quakecon's pcs couldn't run maps at 250 fps O.o ?!?

Nah, afaik that one map Arcane Citadel was buggy and caused fps drops. All other maps were fine. Beats me how it entered the Qcon map pool and why most American teams picked it ...

how many games do you think they've played in the last 12 months? Do you remember the score you lost by even in the last cup you played in?

Well, it's not just any cup, it's the most prestigious team tournament that dem0n, exodus, and silencep have ever participated in. I think it's a reasonable assumption that they remember how they lost.

its a year ago you tool
- the most prestigious team tournament I entered was a CB QL cup as ESR* or a UT2004 TAM cup
- academically, university

I remember I got a first-class, I don't remember individual scores for the modules and think the significance is greater than some gaming cup where I have no idea what the scores were, only that we finished 1st in some division

people struggle to remember what they watched last week yet you seem to think not winning quakecon is some life altering moment

too long ; didn't remember

wow ur so smart

Spart1e creeps around.

The few video makers that agreed to make the movie stepped down or ignored me for months.

Tada.

They probably just realised they can't polish a turd

Took 5 minutes until I realised you weren't walking through a shopping centre

I also went through our demos and timed several actions to include into the movie.

Anyways I'll gladly keep on getting the hate from esr, sacrificing myself for my teamates :).

you should ask kevlark :D

Can you really blame them why they stepped down? You have no material, and what you have is 99% shit. Who in their right mind would want to be affiliated with something like this?

I mean, from the material you've uploaded it's obvious you never had any serious intentions to make a quality movie. It'd be better if you never released anything as this has fuck it and fuck you written all over it.

Well it does have fuck you written on it and it goes toward you who just feeds on trolling :).

I don't care if you think it is shit tbh. But hey, atleast you can see what quakecon looks like a bit, something you'll never experience cuz you'll never leave the cave you're living in.

Haha wtf. Esdf speaks the truth, this is shit and a big fuck you to the donators,. Your overreacted selfdefence isn't to your favor.

You promised ownage, a movie + special clip with spart1e doing something special.

You sure got owned allright, and this 10/10 drama thread is worth something on its own.

if you are smart you grab a fucking camcorder and record the whole thing ftom scratch, doing it properly this time. kevlark will gladly help with the editing.

I stopped reading at esdf speaks the truth.

http://esreality.com/post/2602485/dem0n-and-e...-quakecon/

let's see:

Hey demon I feel for you. They keep saying it would happen, and, they didn't keep their word...

I was really looking forward to it. Keept checking up on the forums every so often to see if it happened.

Tks for doing what you did period.

Sincerely sorry, not trolling..

[+]'d for releasing it before quakecon 2015, quite a feat

I'm not a fan of the config.

Omg, I cannot describe how awful is this. Shot on Nokia 3310 cam.

shot on casio calculator.


Also, cg_parkinsonsCam 1

10/10

That was hilarious. Blair witch project.

You should have those hand tremors looked at.

Definitely 10/10. My girlfriend can't stop laughing.

I see what you did there.

Slightly underwhelming to be honest...

:S

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nice lol

S P A R T 1 E
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Flawless transition between frags

Thanks for video

<_<
Dat camera shake..
>_>

couldnt find the right harmful words....some 1 help me out plz

i expected something like Hangover

too much weaponbob
fov too low

This is the BEST/WORST thing i'v ever seen :-D

My favorite moment is dem0n saying, "you are ruining this"

maybe cause it's the only moment in this?
nice work on the the walk thorugh the mall though, 10/10. would like a slowmo version of it and add some motion blur.

gg nice try, but i'm not buying this. looking forward to the real movie being released at quakecon!

(if this ain't a fucking joke i think i'll finally register just in order to rate 0 :D )

A new step has been taken in the field of quake video.

featuring demen, investing 5 minutes into movie production

i am divided on either 0 or 10.

perfect setup for the next 3 hours of sudden monster and/or alien attack

well that was... what was that? When dahang will lose qcon as every year it will only be the second biggest let down.

Is this how real life looks like with cg_fov 60?

Not really an aftermovie but rather some bloke with tic disorders spasming across a hotel, filming the toilet and towels on the floor.

I betcha you couldnt hold that shit smartphone better than I did !

It doesn't help that this shitty samsung tablet has an implemented useless zoom in it. :D

So your idea from the start was to film the whole roadtrip thing, on a tablet?

No, *our* idea was that *we* would use our phones / cams to try and tape as many things as possible during that trip so that *we* could find a willing movie maker to mount the whole thing.

Besides, I didn't have any clue if my tablet would render so bad, I'm not exactly a professional camera man or movie editor or whatever the fuck else.

I'm not the man in charge to complain about this, because I didn't donate anything myself..

But oh man this project sounds fucked from start.
Doesn't anyone of you own a camcorder/systemcam?
noone thought it would be wise ask the surroundings record your team a couple of your games? and maybe include just a tiny bit of actual gameplay?

No?

I have said somewhere else on this post that I did go through our demos (yes, I, again, alone) to find elements in our tournament games to implement into the movie.

Turns out nobody other than me gave a fuck about this whole promise/project but me. But that might also partly be because everyone thinks this movie was entirely my responsability when it really wasn't.

The only reason I'm not just saying fuck you to everyone at this point is because I feel sorry for the people who donated but I couldnt give a single fuck to the ones who didnt and constitute the majority - if not all - of the people hating right now.

Off the donations, I must admit I took my share because I didn't have to pay for my room, but I won't let anyone criticizes me anymore beyond this point because I feel like I have now largely repaid what has been kindly given to me.

You sound more like you hate on your teammates rather than the people bashing your movie, maybe because you feel like they are just as responsible for this as you, yet I have this weird feeling you were the one pushing forward the idea with this whole movie project, which makes your teammates not giving a fuck. I'll just leave it at that.

It is indeed a weird feeling you have.

must be demons.

Way to make yourself look like the victim here.

You fucking tried. What can you do when your own team wouldn't even help.

Heres hoping this is troll topic. Bad dream for you etc.

you tried your best....

That mobility scooter interrupting spart1e's turnaround
:DD

Hahah I still cannot believe he post this shit....

good frags

is this hall of fame material or not

more like hall of shame

hall of scam

I was there when SPART1E was so drunk standing in front of that TV.

Totally movie worthy!

Best part: Strenx mirin' Spartie in underwear, and asking him where he sleeps

Oh.

At first I thought I was watching some kind of cheap horror movie..
Seriously though, what is zis crap? :D

I don't know how to rate this by normal standards. spartie saved it from being just straight out a bunch of random clips. I mean wtf was the start? :D

then there were some funny moments but mostly a bunch of stuff that either made no sense or we couldn't understand because the quality was so bad.

so I'm going to rate this scooter granny/10

1219 € lmao

lmfao what

"Event: QC15" ?
"Major Movie: QL" ???

should have just made a spartie movie

Rofl 10/10. Trolled hard everyone who donated

Even if you had the best movie maker, what would you expect him to do with these clips ?

The creator of the Arenas series could have done an epic battle going on while he's walking through that shopping centre/quakecon venue...unicorns flying past and everything

wtf is that shit ?

thats a decent scam you guys had going on

+1 for no gibs

solid 10/10 for the spart1e part1e

i know i'm not the only hetero male viewer that watched the spartie pants scene twice

Define hetero..

not strenx

Wow.

You didn't know?

Nope

wow

apart from dem0n, who else used the money from the donations?

http://esreality.com/post/2602485/dem0n-and-e...-quakecon/

Memento Mori payed for dem0n's travel and hotel.

lmfao, then why is it him who has to do the sodding movie?

Also, shouldn't the movie have been exclusive content to donators?

lmfao, then why is it him who has to do the sodding movie?

I dunno. Maybe he agreed to take care of it from the beginning? Or ask exodus/silencep/spartie? Maybe they'll say something other than "wow".

Also, shouldn't the movie have been exclusive content to donators?

I think the movie should be for everyone.

The donators were supposed to get "nods towards the contributors (with their permission)" and "random bonus included in the aftermovie (personal message from Spart1e or something along the lines, we'll get creative)", but we've seen how that turned out.

silencep and exodus should be ashamed.

not spart1e, cuz he kinda deserves it for entertaining us for years already. but sliencep and exodus writing "wow" is kinda disgusting

better than "lol, u/l donators"

not really

U gonna get raped on LAN u onlinehero :D

LOL

That everyone hates on demon doesnt seem fair to me. iirc he was the one who got sponsored by memento wasnt he? His teammates were the ones who needed the money, yet demon was the only one who put some effort into this...

I think the lack of effort is the problem

More effort than the guys who got donations. :D

10/10 thread happening. haven't laughed this hard since "is rapha a racist?" thread.

2/10

So to summarize (correct me if I'm wrong):

- dem0n pushed the movie idea onto his teammates and then proceeded to do all the work himself
- dem0n kept his share (probably a quarter) of the donations for himself, because he didn't need anything for quakecon
- the rest of the money went to spartie/silencep/exodus, who literally did nothing in return

This is hilarious.

all the work ? you're calling 10 mins of footage with no content work? it's just randomly recorded crap with no insight at anything.

neither of them didn't do anything in return aside from trolling here.

let's see, replies from team mates:

1) dem0n - paid my debt by merging 4 random, contentless clips recorded on my cellphone together and uploading it to youtube

2) spart1e - thanks for free vacation lol

3) exodus - wow

4) silencep - wow

grats to everyone who donated, you've been scammed on the level of Ndong Muutu emails from Nigeria

all the work ? you're calling 10 mins of footage with no content work? it's just randomly recorded crap with no insight at anything.

You have to look at the big picture.

dem0n:
- recorded some footage with his tablet
- talked to multiple movie makers
- looked through quakecon demos
- made a (crappy) movie when everything failed

spartie/exodus/silencep:
- did nothing

With some good will, we can conclude that dem0n did the best he can, considering his team mates apparently didn't support him at all.

grats to everyone who donated, you've been scammed on the level of Ndong Muutu emails from Nigeria

Yeah... if I was a donator, I'd ask for my money back. Maybe the affected people are already doing this? I'd personally do it via PM instead of publicly.

The big picture is really completely opposite. While you're claiming dem0n's "something" is better than nothing of the rest of the team, I'm saying it's even worse.

Here we got a halfassed attempt at doing a video, while blaming everyone else but himself and his team for it not being better. I mean, cmon, honestly, if you were a movie maker approached by dem0n with such bad / nonexisting content, would you accept the task?

Yes, while exo, sil and spartie didn't record absolutely anything, dem0n did. But as it can be seen from the video, he did it without any intention of making a decent docu for the donators/supporters, it was more of a "let me get this off my dick so I can say I did something at least" thing.

As far as looking through quakecon demos goes, where are they? Doubt they even have them. Maybe dem0n does but I wouldn't hold my breath.

And in the end, I don't really mind that the movie is shit. What I really mind is dem0n's arrogance and narcissism in this thread where he just dumps this shit on us, proclaims we should be happy with what we got and those who are not can go fuck themselves. Along with proclaiming that his hard oh-my-god work of merging 4 fucking clips together repays his debt to the community.

And if that weren't enough, spartie comes here trolling with "tx 4 free vacation" and sil & exo just spamming "Wow" like it's none of their business.

I can only feel sorry for dem0n because the rest of his team mates doesn't even have the nerve to face the firing squad and leave a meaningful reply.

I'm not really disagreeing, but I think you should cut dem0n some slack.

Four people claim they want to produce a documentary, three of them actually don't care about it at all, and then you're mad at the fourth person for the fact that the documentary is shitty? It's a bit unfair.

Sure, he could have done better; but I really can't be all that upset towards him.

What dem0n/silencep/exodus/spartie should have done is contact all their donators, say sorry that they didn't deliver what they promised, and offer them a refund.
[edit: dem0n is doing something similar in the post below. I don't think it's enough, though. The team as a whole should offer the refunds, not a single person.]

They don't own the community anything, they own it to the donators.

"They don't own the community anything, they own it to the donators."

Pretty much this, the rest of us got a good show and a decent laugh, we can't ask for more. the donators got screwed over for the donation promises, and that is worse.

But dem0n shouldn't take all the hate, everything just falls back on him when he takes the role as spoke person, only because he is the only on caring.

If he replied with a "wow" when people started asking for movie, then hell would break lose :D

This is bst mouse all over. A well thought out plan backfires, and guilt and desperation makes everything worse, while rest of community grabes popcorn.

Yes, I agree, I was too hard on him, but as he was the only one to actually post something of relevance here, it was only natural that he took all the heat. I'm really sorry for that to happen, but he was the only one here while the rest of his team mates lacked the common courtesy to say sorry, hell they did the opposite and made fun of people.

Actually i recorded all the non weaponbob videos, and i expected a fragmovie with some clips, not this. Hence the wow. Also demon said he had a proper moviemaker who would make the movie so im not sure what we could do about this. I wouldve not released anything if this was it.

Actually i recorded all the non weaponbob videos

That's why I said "correct me if I'm wrong". I couldn't have guessed this. The videos don't contain what you promised your donators, see below.

i expected a fragmovie with some clips

But you did nothing to accomplish this, correct?

Also demon said he had a proper moviemaker who would make the movie so im not sure what we could do about this.

If your team had put any sort of effort into getting decent material, the movie makers would probably have made the movie, don't you think?

I wouldve not released anything if this was it.

So instead of delivering a shitty version of your promises, you would just have forgotten about your promises altogether? That's worse.

Here's what you promised, just to remind you:

- we're going to produce a movie documenting the trip and the event itself from our team's perspective and we will include nods towards the contributors (with their permission);

- random bonus included in the aftermovie (personal message from Spart1e or something along the lines, we'll get creative).

You didn't deliver any of this. More importantly, it's not the fault of there being no good movie maker, it's the fault of you not filming what you promised to film.

Its funny to see everyone who didnt donate whine, and the ones that did arent.

The goal was to goto quakecon, not to make a movie, get over it.

When someone makes fun of you because you did a shitty half-assed job, they're not exactly whining.

If there were no goals whatsoever to make a movie, why was it promised time and time again?

Just say it plainly and out loud, fuck it thanks for donating but we won't be doing a movie.

Better than releasing this... this masterpiece of our generation.

damn, it was really amazing. in a way.

Thanks to all the donators for a cheap Vacation lol ;)

Maybe me and demon can make up for IT a little this quakecon.

lold' when he was filming ins play and said "it's good filler" as if the rest was content XD

didn't see the scene but lol'd at the comment

I want to say sorry for losing my cool in this thread at some point. You have to understand that this comes partly because of the disappointment this cool project didn't come out as I (we all) had expected.

Everything went wrong and we probably didn't put enough effort into this and I want to apologize for it all. Especially to the people who donated to support us going to QuakeCon with a team of ctfers. Unfortunately we disappointed you in terms of results aswell, which probably came as a result of our own arrogance and we are the only ones to blame for it.

I feel bad about this to a point it makes me sick to my stomach. I can absolutely not go to QuakeCon and perform the way I want to with this feeling in mind.

I want to announce that, if I were to win any money at this year's QuakeCon, I will reimburse every donator who contacts me with their infos with the right amount that was donated.

You can contact me via facebook (https://www.facebook.com/dem0nQL) or through PM on esreality.

no need to choke on esr dem0n mate - leave that for the games :D

but seriously, gl hf and don't let this cloud your mind

i for one didn't donate but now wish I had, this movie is already an instant 'Hall of Fame' legend

<3

<3

Regardless of anything that's said by other people in this thread. Your honesty and good nature legitimately makes me want to stop trolling and be better.

If you go imma be rooting for you over rapha even. Anyone who follows my retard posts knows I root for him always.

I feel you deserve it, or in the very least some good support.

Don't fret, stay calm, and fuck 'em up at qcon 2015!!!

Tl;Dr

You have a conscious, unlike most people nowadays, and its commendable!

who are you kidding...I give it 12 hours before you're back trolling, 8 of those will be sleeping :d

He he. Probably . but felt it last night. Imma still root for demon though!!!

Don't feel bad demen, nobody donated for a movie. If you plan to make another for this years trip at least you have some guidelines.

I wouldn't feel bad about performance either, just use your experience wisely.

If you plan to make another for this years trip at least you have some guidelines.

Team Averagers actually promised daily videos for this year, FYI.

Meh, daily videos. A fragmovie with some tournament live footage and a touch of spart1e party will do.

Eh, dem0n got fucked pretty hard by this whole situation but at the end of the day when you make a promise under your name it is your responsibility to follow up on it. The behaviour of the other teammembers, however, who were the beneficiaries of the donations is very questionable. If the donation initiative was spawned by the whole team then have the balls to stand for what you promised and either throw some money together and hire a moviemaker or make a proper movie yourselves. The "wow" replys just seem completely out of place unless the whole donation thing was forced upon them somehow (was it?).

Just my 2cent.

dem0n is shit (c) 2GD

This is a painful reminder that I did not donate!

Btw sorry for ruining the tour to the tournament area dem0n

he's gonna shit on your chest at QCON15

Am I the only one that liked it?

Also, seems like after all these years people here still don't understand what a donation is. In the end they did go to Quakecon and that's all there is to it. Oh and it has to be said most likely the majority of the critics here didn't donate them a penny.

There's a difference between simply donating to a "cause" and being promised specific "perks" during crowdfunding campaigns.

Expendables used the crowdfunding approach, getting a movie was the incentive for the backers.

In dem0n's defense, it was very clear from the beginning that what backers will get is a phone camera footage.

However, for something to be called a movie, it's usually supposed to have a narrative. Some subtitles at least.

This is more like a David Lynch movie - no one actually knows what we're watching, completely random stuff is happening in non-chronological order and some of the time, nothing is happening at all. All this makes it impossible to digest for the majority, but for some, it's art!

I think what this really needs now is a Q&A with the director where he would throw us some bones to chew on. Not explain everything, just hint at stuff, so people can create fan sites posting theories about the meaning, drawing diagrams of the film's chronology, stuff like that.

Made me laugh irl =)

Did they go to Quakecon? Yes.
Did they release a movie? Yes.

:dddddd

Why did they ask for donations?
A) To get the team to QuakeCon?
B) To finance a movie?

Seriously, get a grip.

If I were to donate money to get a player or team to a lan event, I would not expect anything in return, I would do it for the love of the game and the players.
Call me corny, but all this misplaced entitlement from a lot of comments is just bullshit.

"donate for poor kids in africa and get a free shirt!*"

*shirt not included

What a creative movie.

I think he went so slow at the beginning to make the best of the camera recorder he had.. Otherwise it would of been much blurrier.

Nice theory. Mine is that he did so as a reflection of the perceived slowness of the space-time tissue while waiting for something big to happen, like we all waste our lives doing.

:p <3

War dem0n!

was wrong thread before:
how come this is not in hall of fame?

this is still not in the hall of fame

the movie was perfect until xds ruined it

haha xd

haha xds

haha xds

I just can’t believe I’ve missed it. The tears in my eyes are 4 years late

anyone has link?