ESR - No Av3k at ESWC Finals

<< Comment #2 @ 17:07 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Aaron

second o/

<< Comment #130 @ 05:13 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #2

u too!

<< Comment #3 @ 17:07 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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[mash]

this is what you get for letting them put their missiles in your country.

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<< Comment #97 @ 02:24 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #3

We (european people and our politics) are really dumb to say nothing about that... Because if the anti missile is based in europe, that means that a potential nuclear missile which will be launched against US, will fall down in european ground instead of US one... :-(

I don't care about (some of) US people when it's because their politics that other people want to destroy them, It's not my fault or my problem, and I don't want to receive a nuclear missile on my head because US anti missile are based in europe...

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 06:42 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #103 @ 02:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #97

Well the Swedish government has been sucking US d*** since forever, no surprises here.

<< Comment #184 @ 07:58 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #97

But missiles don't get shot down and explode when they hit the ground. More than likely the only thing that hits the ground will be fragments of missile components, maybe some rocket fuel, maybe some bits of uranium or plutonium or deuterium, but nothing that couldn't be easily cleaned up by hazmat crew. Uranium/Plutonium in casings hitting the ground may cause a little radioactive leakage, but that sure beats the crap out of having a 2 megaton warhead hit your hometown and vaporizing all your countrymen.

This is good thing for Europe, especially those in NATO. It's a missile shield against any non-NATO. It's a symbol US is using to get more European countries to join NATO. And Russia is using it as a symbol of continuing arms-race.

IMO, It's probably a good decision for Poland and Czech Republic.

<< Comment #279 @ 17:09 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (c-98-207-159-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) - Reply to #184

See, this is as far as an American's critical thinking takes them when it comes to foreign policy. He just concluded everything is right with the world.

WRONG, MORON.

Czech Republic and Poland have now become TARGETS for nuclear attacks launched from Russia. If there is a war, the first thing Russia will do is drop nukes on those radar and missile installations, quite a few of them. Poland just made itself the front line.

<< Comment #280 @ 17:12 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Burn the Priest - Reply to #279

Maybe you should use your superior European critical thinking skills to remember that this is a topic about somebody who cannot attend a video game competition and not a war debate.

Edited by Vicarious at 17:12 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #282 @ 18:06 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #279

I suppose it would make sense for Russia to waste nuclear missiles by sending them to attack an anti-missile station... if they were complete retards.

Also, the missile shields and radar towers in Poland and Czech are hardly the only ones around. Those merely extend the coverage of those already installed in long-standing NATO member countries. The only thing tactical that Russia is left with is air-strikes and ground forces, which obviously will be combated with other air and ground forces by NATO troops.

I'm sure you thought that if a war did break out between Russia and USA that Russia would simply leave alone Czech/Poland because they don't have missile shields. This isn't a world we live in which World Wars or Nuclear Wars is only fought between two nations. If nuclear ICBMs start flying everywhere, you can be pretty sure that EVERY CIVILIZED COUNTRY ON EARTH is going to get wrapped up in it in some fashion, whether that be politically, economically, or militarily. They will, at some point, have to pick sides.

If you had been following the events as they unfolded and the responses between Russia and NATO members, you'd see the pundits all point to this only as inducing more of an arms-race between Russia and NATO. Not making Poland/Czech less safe, when in fact a missile shield makes them more safe. It's as simple as that.

Now if you want to get into who is right and wrong, that's all subjective and I'm not saying US or Russia is right/wrong. I'm just saying what it is...

And btw, fuck you for insinuating just because I'm American I can't think critically about the way the world works. Which is IRONIC cause you're from the bay area in California, USA.... zZzZz, I love how hypocritical people are on this website.

Edited by lolograde at 18:19 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #298 @ 04:39 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #282

"I suppose it would make sense for Russia to waste nuclear missiles by sending them to attack an anti-missile station... if they were complete retards."

ya, it makes much more sense to not use them at all or let them be shot down...

<< Comment #312 @ 07:00 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #298

Well, I'd assume they would use the air-strikes and ground forces first to take out the missile shield defenses and then start nuking away.

<< Comment #321 @ 07:24 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #312

takes too long I guess.

In any case I think I read somewhere that Russia has many more missiles than that shield could shoot down, so it's really not efficient against them, and as you also pointed out yourself, Russia's nukes wouldn't cross Europe in any case.

<< Comment #278 @ 17:07 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #184

Maybe you should look up the sole purpose of NATO - it's purely anti-USSR, and now anti-russian block.

<< Comment #283 @ 18:38 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #184

"the only thing that hits the ground will be ..//.. some rocket fuel, maybe some bits of uranium or plutonium or deuterium,"

So if it's (ROFL) ONLY some uranium and so on, keep it on your ground and destroy Iranian missiles on the US sky instead of EU sky.

"It's a missile shield against any non-NATO. It's a symbol US is using to get more European countries to join NATO."

ROFL. Do you really think that Poland is the best place to protect EU against potential Iranian missiles ? In fact the only thing why US asked to install this system in Poland, is ONLY to protect US from middle-east country missile, which could pass via the north pole... US don't care about EU and more over don't care about Poland. If it was to protect EU, the anti missile system should be better installed in Romania (south east of EU) instead of Poland which is on the north east of EU.

And please, stop your mentality @ "dark side of the force" against the "Mary Poppins World of NATO".

You should perhaps better try to understand why some people wanna destroy US, instead of make war, build fences, and close your eyes and doors on the other culture.

EDIT : And if you not thought about Iranian missiles but CCCP@Russia ones, do you really think that Russia want to launch a nuclear missile against EU ? No, another time, the only mission of this anti missile system is to protect US and not EU.

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 18:51 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #284 @ 18:51 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #283

First off, Iran doesn't even have ICBMs capable of hitting US soil. Second off, any Russian ICBMs bound for US would probably take the shortest, fastest route which would be straight over the Arctic circle.

Okay, I guess you'd rather have a 2 megaton explosion hit your hometown rather than some chunks of radioactive material contaminate a small area for a short while before hazmat crews get out there.

ROFL? What's ROFL is that you think the USA doesn't care about anyone but USA. You realize that our economy have very, very big trade deficit, i.e., imports > exports? Our economy is based on trade with our countries, including every country in the EU and all across the world. You have to realize that what affects one of us, affects us all. For example, look at how the housing crisis in the US has affected the US and vice-versa.

Your mentality would make sense in world that isn't as globalized as our world is today. We are all playing poker at the same table. What affects one of us, affects us all. You need to realize that you can't just turn your back on world events and everyone around you and think you can succeed in the world. Moreover, I don't see where you think you rank among all the member nations of NATO, but it obvious that you think you know what is better for the Czech and Polish people than they do themselves...

Edited by lolograde at 18:58 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #295 @ 03:36 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #284

"Okay, I guess you'd rather have a 2 megaton explosion hit your hometown"

From who ? And why somebody wanna attack my country ?
The best way to receive nothing is to not follow your (US) way of think. Is to not attack a country without reason (irak) and so on.

"We are all playing poker at the same table." => but without the same rules... Or with YOUR rules (that we do not accept), and we don't have the choice :/

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 03:40 CDT, 23 August 2008

<< Comment #300 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #295

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end

<< Comment #314 @ 07:02 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #295

Afaik, France got dragged into WW2 and they were complete pacifists. So... *shrugs*... don't know what to tell you other than what I've already said.

<< Comment #320 @ 07:22 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #314

Well they did declare war on Germany just like the UK as far as I recall.

<< Comment #299 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #284

"First off, Iran doesn't even have ICBMs capable of hitting US soil."

according to some reports they are planning to launch a satellite into space...

<< Comment #311 @ 06:58 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #299

This is true, yes. I've heard about that. But they still don't have ICBMs. I suppose once they start sending Jihadists up into space, the world will be a better place?

<< Comment #315 @ 07:05 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #311

the point is that the technology needed for orbit helps a lot when you try to develop ICBMs.also: http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2007_10/Mistry

and that completely ignores the possiblity to buy or steal the technology.

Anyway, I really doubt that Iran would launch a few nuclear missiles at the US.

<< Comment #322 @ 09:08 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #315

I suppose we are in a state of a semi-cold war

<< Comment #327 @ 10:50 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #284

"Second off, any Russian ICBMs bound for US would probably take the shortest, fastest route which would be straight over the Arctic circle."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOBS

oh I'm sure the good comrades have decommissioned every single one of those babies.

<< Comment #238 @ 11:06 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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sudstah - Reply to #3

how true is that haha

<< Comment #4 @ 17:08 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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winz

shame, really

<< Comment #5 @ 17:08 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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hnns

no document has hurt quake3 as much as visa. on behalf of the QUAKE III community i declare a JIHAD ON FUCKING VISA !!!!

<< Comment #185 @ 08:01 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #5

=D

<< Comment #6 @ 17:09 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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stuntz

Man this visa shit is a major turd!

<< Comment #30 @ 17:59 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #6

who is this VISA-guy anyway? I don't like him.

<< Comment #62 @ 21:41 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #30

BYEs nemesis

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<< Comment #7 @ 17:11 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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optimizer

go usa...

<< Comment #8 @ 17:12 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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karizma

oh shit :/

<< Comment #9 @ 17:12 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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noctis

i can now really say moving to usa was the best thing eswc has ever done :D

... im serial!! :DDD

:/

<< Comment #11 @ 17:16 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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mnemjc - Reply to #9

at least, you're not funny

<< Comment #31 @ 18:00 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #11

but he likes south park :)

<< Comment #50 @ 18:48 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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hnns - Reply to #11

at least, you are boring

<< Comment #59 @ 20:01 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Adel - Reply to #50

at least, you are gay

Edited by LkI3 at 20:01 CDT, 21 August 2008

<< Comment #153 @ 06:07 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #59

at least you are right

<< Comment #154 @ 06:11 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #153

At least. IM BATMAAAN

<< Comment #165 @ 06:46 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001 - Reply to #154

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPRscxQZs8E

<< Comment #201 @ 09:09 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Vlad- - Reply to #165

Haha, that is by far the most funny commercial I have ever seen :D

<< Comment #270 @ 16:07 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Adel - Reply to #201

I prefer this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_25R-mjADE&feature=related

:)

<< Comment #10 @ 17:16 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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n1ghty

aprils fool that late again? :f

<< Comment #12 @ 17:21 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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saboya

BS =/

<< Comment #13 @ 17:22 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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timmah

Pretty lame. I guess this is a sort of thing where the IESF
(http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1596291) could serve a really good purpose

Edited by timmah at 17:25 CDT, 21 August 2008

<< Comment #15 @ 17:26 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #13

rofl

<< Comment #84 @ 01:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #13

like homeland security would care

<< Comment #14 @ 17:25 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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vedic

GRATS CYPHER

<< Comment #16 @ 17:29 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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harleyQUINN - Reply to #14

true dat

<< Comment #23 @ 17:48 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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kaliberr44

By disabling Russians nukes, at least they could give our Quake 3 player a go.

<< Comment #17 @ 17:31 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Bono

GRATS cooller

<< Comment #27 @ 17:52 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #17

why no interview ya canadian bacon :(

<< Comment #78 @ 00:46 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #17

give Dird interview meany!

<< Comment #186 @ 08:02 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #17

You should interview, cause two people said so, so now I say so and my word is the law.

<< Comment #216 @ 09:58 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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AHXNXA - Reply to #17

lmao g1

<< Comment #18 @ 17:38 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Kruzz

wow, this sucks :< aw well, hope to see you in the future :)

<< Comment #19 @ 17:38 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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TUMULT

ALI I N.A.B 4tw

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<< Comment #138 @ 05:26 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Kaloos - Reply to #19

ROFL

<< Comment #21 @ 17:48 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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daka '

damn, that sux

<< Comment #20 @ 17:46 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Bl4sT

no visa to Cypher for Gamegune ,no visa for Av3k to ESWC, no visa for Cooller in quakecon 2003 or 2004, FUCK this stupid visa system..

<< Comment #126 @ 05:00 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #20

Except cooller placed 3rd at QuakeCon 2004.

<< Comment #228 @ 10:57 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #20

unkind 2003, lexer was almost visafucked 2002, but made it with aunt power and won in the end.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:48 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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outlaw

Cypher: "im spraying cum everywhere!"

<< Comment #273 @ 16:35 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Jubei - Reply to #22

Cypher woulda won with or without av3k tbh.

<< Comment #24 @ 17:49 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Grumx

:EFFFFFFF {FPFFPfp
gw Cypher :E
cant believe it ...gosh

<< Comment #25 @ 17:49 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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ted

serious?

<< Comment #28 @ 17:53 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #25

gaming

<< Comment #261 @ 14:46 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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H1ghTecM@N^ - Reply to #28

nab

<< Comment #26 @ 17:52 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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raithza

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

<< Comment #36 @ 18:12 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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reyu - Reply to #26

http://de.fishki.net/picsw/082008/21/strannie...people.jpg

<< Comment #29 @ 17:59 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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POL_ThrawN

kurwa mac

<< Comment #32 @ 18:02 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Aquashark '

PARANOID USA FUCKS
fuck this Visa gambling man.. can't imagine how it feels to be left out after training hard for this event

Edited by Aquashark at 18:04 CDT, 21 August 2008

<< Comment #188 @ 08:04 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #32

Now he has more time for sports and army...

<< Comment #33 @ 18:03 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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mefajpE^

EH WTF KURWA?!

24 players left out of 32, ~ AWESOME~~!!

Edited by MEFajpE^ at 18:05 CDT, 21 August 2008

<< Comment #34 @ 18:08 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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ceppy

It's a conspiracy by the government so that the US wins more gold medals. DUHHHHHHH

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<< Comment #35 @ 18:09 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Nukm

:(

<< Comment #37 @ 18:13 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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doYdY

fail

<< Comment #38 @ 18:17 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

Ali Nab's cunning plan seems to be working. congrats dude, you passed the 1st group stage!

Edited by Gladius at 18:17 CDT, 21 August 2008

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<< Comment #65 @ 22:15 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #38

As first seed from his group, no less!

<< Comment #73 @ 00:25 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ shajN - Reply to #38

ALI N.A.B is a sneaky bastard. Who knows what he's going to do next...

<< Comment #131 @ 05:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #73

groups will be changed when necessary....he won`t be the only one in his group!

<< Comment #39 @ 18:18 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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[DOA]XiLLy

Gah, I was really looking forward to seeing avek compete. His potential matches with cypher were of particular interest!

Cooler will be there im sure, in soviet russia, visa gets you huh?

:(

<< Comment #40 @ 18:22 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Gladius

on a serious note, although I don't like him, it sucks he won't be there =((. so much bad news in the prelude of this event, when will it stop? ó_ò

Edited by Gladius at 18:22 CDT, 21 August 2008

<< Comment #42 @ 18:25 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #40

when eswc will be held in a democratic country.

<< Comment #43 @ 18:26 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #42

yeah, things were much better in la douce france =\

/goes to watch some eswc '03 demos

<< Comment #48 @ 18:35 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #43

...

<< Comment #93 @ 02:04 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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unihumi - Reply to #43

and last year I said to myself "I'll be visiting ESWC next year in france. hell yeah" :'(
Please, somebody hold my hand *sniff*

<< Comment #41 @ 18:24 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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dem0n

America ist wunderbar !!!

<< Comment #81 @ 00:52 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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ArKtiK - Reply to #41

Hard for you foreigners to get into the World Power, the Land of the Free - the American Dream.

Too bad.. keep hating bitches

<< Comment #82 @ 01:05 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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mess - Reply to #81

i would not like to live in your World Power, the Land of the Free - the American Dream even if you paid me

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<< Comment #90 @ 01:52 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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illogic - Reply to #82

i second that

<< Comment #229 @ 11:00 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #82

really, i dont see planes crashing into our buildings, our weight is not 350 pounds in average and more than 90% of us have health insurance.

americans are kinda retarded with the self-fanboism. no, i think *brainwashed* is a better term.

<< Comment #285 @ 20:09 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Arcita - Reply to #229

yeah, well, americans can defeat terror.. and evil too!

<< Comment #289 @ 00:21 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (87.206.98.174) - Reply to #82

sure, "the Land of the Free" but not free to visit and most of dumb ppl there believe that they can get to Europe by bus... dreamland...

<< Comment #331 @ 18:27 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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DWdanne - Reply to #82

I live in the US... then again - they did pay good money :P

<< Comment #96 @ 02:21 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #81

Well who isnt free except for commies?
American dream, what is that?

<< Comment #107 @ 03:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Anonymous (caa69.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) - Reply to #96

It's one of the slogans that US government uses, when it wants to fool american people into another war.

<< Comment #114 @ 04:21 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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karizma - Reply to #107

rofl :D

<< Comment #137 @ 05:24 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #107

Sounds about right.

<< Comment #112 @ 04:09 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #96

what they say when they want to sell you a crap car?

<< Comment #101 @ 02:30 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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[DOA]XiLLy - Reply to #81

I've got a billion mexicans that say otherwise:P

<< Comment #246 @ 11:42 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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g0b - Reply to #101

trailerpark anyone?

<< Comment #115 @ 04:26 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #81

lol you gotta be kidding me :D

I actually laughed at this one.

The American Dream is a name that fits so perfectly..

<< Comment #132 @ 05:18 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #81

american dream my ass!

<< Comment #144 @ 05:53 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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predr - Reply to #81

He was joking, obviously

<< Comment #149 @ 06:03 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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koekie - Reply to #81

You mean czm?

<< Comment #189 @ 08:12 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #81

things written on paper and reality, two different things, eh?
btw ask aronofski about american dream, seems he know better

<< Comment #248 @ 11:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Jazzy - Reply to #81

ESWC Pr0 Gaymer Quake 3 Esports Entertainment Duellist ArKtiK... ur very humble and have a lot of dignity. keep it up

<< Comment #44 @ 18:26 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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draven-

ESWC in NL plz ;)

<< Comment #57 @ 19:31 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #44

[+]

<< Comment #45 @ 18:30 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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erok

stupid

<< Comment #46 @ 18:33 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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dronesoul

callvote stophostingtournamentsintheUS
vote yes
vote cast

<< Comment #139 @ 05:27 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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By $\0/$ sniden - Reply to #46

vote yes

<< Comment #145 @ 05:56 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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predr - Reply to #46

vote failed

<< Comment #47 @ 18:35 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Serious Gaming?

<< Comment #49 @ 18:36 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #47

deadly

<< Comment #51 @ 19:05 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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madbringer

What the shit diarrhea dick fuck rhino cunts spinning on pogo turd sticks/?

<< Comment #52 @ 19:10 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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dallow

gg usa

<< Comment #53 @ 19:18 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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donka '

sooo US can install rocket defense in Poland, but one quake 3 champion cannot come to US for 4 days? I see how it is....
way to go Poland, select your allies wiser next time

<< Comment #66 @ 23:03 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Venim - Reply to #53

ya they should have stuck with the russians and let them destroy their country more

<< Comment #83 @ 01:12 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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mess - Reply to #53

no reason to watch eswc now :/

gg usa eswc ROFL

<< Comment #116 @ 04:28 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #53

I would never let America put rockets in my country, that's like giving your soul to the devil, you gotta pay for your mistakes, Poland !

<< Comment #212 @ 09:44 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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juxx - Reply to #116

cause we don't have US nuclear weapons stocked here :p

<< Comment #266 @ 15:29 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Gigamo - Reply to #116

Belgium is still a country!?

<< Comment #271 @ 16:13 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Adel - Reply to #266

No

<< Comment #252 @ 12:28 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #53

yeah, it's totally the same people taking care of visas and air defense after all

<< Comment #54 @ 19:21 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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DWdanne

Does anyone know the reason why he was refused a renewal of the VISA?

<< Comment #55 @ 19:23 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #54

its america

<< Comment #68 @ 23:18 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Stasis - Reply to #55

fuck yeah

<< Comment #87 @ 01:21 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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DWdanne - Reply to #55

Well, even if it's America they usually have some reason. Like "Oh, you're going there to win prizes? Is that part of your income? Oh, then you need a WORK PERMIT. You need written confirmation from the company hosting the event that you will attend, and it will take X number of months to get the VISA" (strictly hypothetical case of course)

<< Comment #113 @ 04:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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tourist - Reply to #87

come on he didn't tell them he's there to win money. the kid can time armors on ztn surely he's not that stupid.

<< Comment #157 @ 06:11 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #113

that made me laugh

<< Comment #206 @ 09:27 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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DWdanne - Reply to #113

:D

<< Comment #343 @ 17:01 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #113

haha but he is polish...

<< Comment #233 @ 11:02 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #87

i guess they heard he is good with a *rocket launcher* and denied him the visa due to national security. they are just stupid.

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predr - Reply to #233

74 posts too late. :/

<< Comment #302 @ 05:11 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #255

yeah ive seen. cba reading all of those.

<< Comment #105 @ 02:52 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #55

WORLD POLICE!!!

<< Comment #58 @ 19:34 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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_agu - Reply to #54

same here

<< Comment #56 @ 19:28 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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_agu

visa suxevAH

<< Comment #60 @ 20:06 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Adel

I hope the visa-guy have a poor & sad life

<< Comment #61 @ 20:27 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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CAREEM

Nice news, looking forward to see second awesome news

us in my x3 4 ewa

<< Comment #63 @ 22:04 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Jazzy

for gods sake

<< Comment #64 @ 22:08 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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bsk

From the Serious Gaming site:

"For Av3k this decision is an extra blow since he was determined to prolongue his title, and become the third player in history to do so after French Quake and UT champion Winz and French Gran Turismo player Snake."

Erm, forgetting someone?

Edit: Forgot to say it's such a shame :/

Edited by bsk at 22:12 CDT, 21 August 2008

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Anonymous (12-216-119-222.client.mchsi.com) - Reply to #64

this says it all |]

.rapha (my account was ummm deleted or something it wont work anymore :/ )

<< Comment #80 @ 00:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #77

accounts dont get deleted, maybe reset your password

<< Comment #140 @ 05:39 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Dird - Reply to #77

because you wont do an interview :D

<< Comment #67 @ 23:04 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Venim

do they ever say why they deny visas? im curious to know what the problem is with half of these guys being denied visas

<< Comment #69 @ 23:20 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Stasis - Reply to #67

His mouse and keyboard are considered weapons of mass DKTion.

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<< Comment #85 @ 01:18 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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bsk - Reply to #69

:)

<< Comment #99 @ 02:26 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #69

haha :D

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predr - Reply to #69

They probably Googled him and realized, that he's experienced with rocket launchers.

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<< Comment #175 @ 07:22 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #159

lol

<< Comment #118 @ 04:33 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Deimos - Reply to #67

Basically consular officer is not obliged to explain why a person was rejected visa, especially if we are talking about US visa.
In 2003 or 2004 Cooller was having problems with american visa. He told me, that a consular officer in visa section of US Embassy in Moscow had told him after the interview: "I don't see any point in your presence in the United States". That's all, no further explanation. Luckyly, in the end of ends, Cooller finally managed to get the visa that very time, thanks to some good personal connections. Actually any consular officer of any country has the right to reject in issuing you a visa, and he is not supposed to give any explanation.

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<< Comment #243 @ 11:23 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #118

I think he is supposed to do so. Atleast in a 'free' democratic country that is.

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Deimos - Reply to #243

Trust me, he is not. I know for sure, cause I'm working in this sphere, not for US though:)

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dem0n - Reply to #257

What I am saying is that it's not normal to have this. Those officers SHOULD be giving relevant arguments for not letting a guy enter the country. Or something is fucked up.

<< Comment #70 @ 23:21 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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apoxic

Such a shame

<< Comment #71 @ 23:45 CDT, 21 August 2008 >>

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Putton

damn that sux :´(

<< Comment #72 @ 00:11 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp '

Stupid Americans too dumb to allow visa

will an esr petition to the polish american consulate work ? !!

Edited by butcher_kgp at 00:12 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #76 @ 00:43 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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ios

damn avek ;<

<< Comment #74 @ 00:29 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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meat man

Another reason why you dont host gaming events in USA.

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #74

Another reason why you take care of this kind of things earlier, just in case.

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becks - Reply to #79

they wrote several attempts...

<< Comment #75 @ 00:43 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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X0z3N

Just give the man a...cig...VISA ! ;P

<< Comment #88 @ 01:23 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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filo

lol yes idd the land of the free ... and to be under gov fear factor ..lol no tnx ... i rather choose to live in truly free country.

<< Comment #98 @ 02:25 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #88

Yeah I guess you could say that america isnt as free as it used to be, big brother is watching.
They love spying on their own inhabitants.

Which is why im glad to live in denmark. :>

<< Comment #128 @ 05:08 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #98

I thought you lived in Jutland?

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jonte - Reply to #128

correct me if im wrong but jutland is the amish part of denmark with barely any electricity, no internet etc?

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CENEk - Reply to #146

Yeah, I'm surprised he can even play from there.

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Anonymous (90.185.36.187) - Reply to #98

heh, and how exactly is denmark any different?

<< Comment #318 @ 07:21 CDT, 23 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #269

Our government dont spy on us?

<< Comment #89 @ 01:41 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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mov9k

Mr Sikorski, help please.

<< Comment #91 @ 01:57 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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illogic

US of A suck

<< Comment #92 @ 02:03 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Alchemist03

hah terrorism... wtf that's bad... without Nike and Av3k

Edited by Alchemist03 at 02:08 CDT, 22 August 2008

<< Comment #94 @ 02:09 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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VeRTeX

bah, there goes the final

<< Comment #95 @ 02:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n

Thanks to that, now an US player has a chance to be on the top3. That's why they refused to renew his VISA.

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amOKchen - Reply to #95

Well its ofcourse sad that a competitor isnt going, but saying that they dindt have a chance for top3 before is jsut truly ignorant.
czm and zero4 is some of the most winning players ever, if they bother to get in shape topspot would really get a run for it..

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #100

It's not only a competitor, it's a topseeded player... That's why I said they have more chance to be in the top3.

But wait and see...

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 02:43 CDT, 22 August 2008

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stunt.us - Reply to #102

wouldn't that mean any other player even ones from outside of usa have the same exact chance now too?

why you hatin?

<< Comment #346 @ 17:41 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #344

It's not "hating", and the facts are that I was right to say that...

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stunt.us - Reply to #346

why were you right? Who said you were wrong? You failed to mention that everyone else would have the same chance of getting a top spot that avek wasn't there. Instead you just mentioned one country. hmmm!?!??!

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #347

Because, since age, there always exists a "competition" between the old continent players (and "flame" from their fanboys) and those from US :p Nothing bad, nothing anti-American.

About the : "everyone else would have the same chance of getting a top spot", you are wrong.

The fact that av3k was not here, do not change the fact that the "weakest "players (low seeded) still the weakest ones, and even without av3k they have no chance to reach the top3.

But 4th, 5th, or 6th of the high seeded players have a "free" spot, and better chance to be 3rd (when cypher, jibo and av3k were the expected top3... in disorder).

However, Rapha impressed me a lot and he deserved his 3rd place, and even, he deserved to play Cypher in final instead of semi.

I'm looking forward the next lan with such talented players from all countries and especially from USA (it's exciting to have a lot of fights like that).

<< Comment #349 @ 21:37 CDT, 28 August 2008 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #348

no it isn't. it might seem like you're just having fun on the internet, but thinking like this is what people do everyday. This ends up in hate and wars. Why keep spreading it? OMG AMERICANS NOOBS OR EURO PUBES?! YA IT'S SP FunnY!! HAHAHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHA?

It ends up being real and people die because of the differences. Oh but you don't want to be conscious of that fact do you? I'm just going to sit here and believe you've never been in a war with friends and buddies getting shot around. Or else maybe you too would have a different opinion on this and others. People, friends, family, little kids dieing for no reason. I been there man, and it's because of people on the internet not thinking their little jokes don't matter. When in fact it does, it really does.

I'll just hope you don't have your friends,family or yourself be shot at just because you are from another country, town, culture.

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #349

You are so LOL. I speak about video games, fanboys (not fanatics hooligans and so on...). And you spoke about wars, died people and so on... :/

Since 40 years, the United states of America is the only country which is involved in every wars around the world... So please keep you're argument for you and don't come to say to French people that wars is not good. It's not the fault of France if more than 3000 US soldiers are died in Irak (and I'm really sad for their family).

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 15:29 CDT, 31 August 2008

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stunt.us - Reply to #351

It might not be france's fault but it people who think like you fault.

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #352

How can you know what I think ?

You come here to tell me the moral and the way to think (just because I said thanks to the forfeit of Av3k US players have more chance to be in the top3). And after you speak about wars... But your country is the 1st seller of weapons, and makes wars everywhere over the world :x and I don't find the relationship of your argument with the fact that US players had more chance to be in the top3.

You speak about culture, but you invades the world with your Judeo-Christian culture and way of life... And if the world is like that (wars and so on), naturally it's not your fault, but the other fault (me, in the present case)... :/

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 16:10 CDT, 31 August 2008

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stunt.us - Reply to #353

Place blame on everyone but yourself. go ahead.

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Co1nCo1n - Reply to #100

As I said "wait and see", but I was right to said that american players have more chance to finish in the last top3 since av3k and also nike can't come.

SEMI-FINAL 1
srs`Cypher -vs- SK-rapha

SEMI-FINAL 2
k1llsen -vs- RazerJ

There is only 1 american in the top4 (with av3k and nike, it should even been 0 american player in the top5)

Edited by Co1nCo1n at 15:38 CDT, 26 August 2008

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amOKchen - Reply to #336

Thats pretty bold and ignorant thinking at the same time isnt it :P?

edit: considering that groupstage2 was with 50% americans.

Edited by amokchen at 03:13 CDT, 27 August 2008

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[mash] - Reply to #336

yeah, cause nike performed so well on LAN.

<< Comment #108 @ 03:16 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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aCtion'nite

just missing that great qcon coverage now

<< Comment #104 @ 02:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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kaboom

no comment...

<< Comment #106 @ 02:55 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

As if you really needed another reason to hate the US politics.

<< Comment #109 @ 03:47 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Memento_Mori '

Afaik there are two types of visa, for immigrants and non-immigrants. The former is a complex thing involving immigration whatever. The latter (used for tourism, medical treatments, short terms studies jobs,...) requires you to show proofs you will not stay in US forever. In the case of a 4 days stay, the plane ticket should be good enough. Are you saying that the problem here is that avek comes from Poland? It sprays nonsense everywhere…

<< Comment #111 @ 04:02 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #109

afaik, that short term visa in combination with a plane ticket only works for selected countries.
And even then if you repeatedly enter the country then can ask for more reasons.

That was the way it worked several years ago and now with the homeland security and TSA I doubt it's becoming any easier.

see also: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/...12DEQU.DTL

<< Comment #119 @ 04:33 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #109

well, maybe americans think Poland = middle east = evil axe.

Who knows :(

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madbringer

Edited by madbringer at 03:53 CDT, 22 August 2008

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<< Comment #134 @ 05:22 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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vkl - Reply to #110

xD

<< Comment #117 @ 04:30 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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dem0n

Av3k got his visa refused probably cause he said he came to frag lots of people

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crv - Reply to #117

or just because he ask it one week before the event ?

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dem0n - Reply to #123

even if that was true it shouldn't take so long to have a visa to usa at this era of fast communication :))

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crv - Reply to #168

depend wich country you from :D

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Shrike - Reply to #123

If that is true then he has no-one else to blame.
How long ago did he know he would be attending ?

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Lethe - Reply to #123

would it be normal if his "serious" clan took care of it?

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LeXz

ESWC, You Forgot Poland!

<< Comment #121 @ 04:48 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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duumed

retards

e: how about matrox? did he get his visa?

Edited by duumed at 04:49 CDT, 22 August 2008

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vicek - Reply to #121

yes afaik

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Dird - Reply to #121

yes

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d00mer

kurwa

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cYmoZz

this sucks :(
Can't anybody do smth about this? I remember that one time when a clan or tournament organisation spoke to the embassy guys so they gave the player a visa even though they denied it before.
I think it was either avek or cypher.

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becks - Reply to #124

having someone issue an invitation is normally a good way to get a visa and in several countries it's actually a necessity.

but on such short notice I'm afraid you would have to find someone really high up, like a governor or a senator.

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DamianLillard

He should try Mastercard

<< Comment #133 @ 05:18 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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tNaCarN

omfg just boarder jump av3k from mexico to California you stupid fool.

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<< Comment #135 @ 05:22 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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sabre0001

This happens too much when something is in USA - THIS is something that G7 / ESFI / whatever union that says it wants to sort gaming issues should actually look at!

That, or stop holding things in the US til they play nice with competitors...

<< Comment #148 @ 06:03 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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jonte - Reply to #135

yes someone ought to tell whatever union that says it wants to sort out gaming issues to look into this!!!!!

<< Comment #142 @ 05:45 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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timmah

I hope we will see an interview with the CEO of ESWC concerning issues like this. Would be interesting to see the reactions/answers...

<< Comment #177 @ 07:24 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #142

one for Dird i think ;)

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xou - Reply to #177

I think M. Dallon will go for face instead of boobs

<< Comment #143 @ 05:47 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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toifel

completely resonable since poland is only about 5000 miles away from iraq.. so he might be a terrorist!

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becks - Reply to #143

aren't they both in Africa?

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predr - Reply to #147

Nah, Iraq is the capital of Stockholm; thus part of Austria.

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becks - Reply to #155

k, thx

edit: the cangaroo austria, right?

Edited by becks at 06:14 CDT, 22 August 2008

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predr - Reply to #158

Hmm, I think you are thinking about Iran (0:38)

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Jamerio : - Reply to #143

Terrorists generally have dark skin these days.

<< Comment #150 @ 06:03 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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alien*

What a shame. You americans are really living the american dream.. because your so far away from reality.. that's a wise sentence. Maybe it was ALI N.A.B. with is ultra sneaky terrorist connections.

And av3k.. don't get too frustrated kid.. you allways have GTV!

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lolograde ' - Reply to #150

Never thought I'd see an Isreali be anything but grateful to America... xD

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Venim - Reply to #193

ya after saving them so many times lol

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Jamerio :

Sucks av3k but it happens. About 2 years ago I finally got a full-time job in the US and had a company hire an attorney to get me over there, sadly it could not happen because I did not have a uni degree, desipite exceeding other factors like earnings and awards. And I was a white brit so has nothig to where you from.

Sadly we live in a time when you're not treated as an individual, more of a statistic. Also many factors come into play like the time of year, and their quota limits. Of course it sucks as you only wnat to go for a few days to play a game.

Your only real chance would have been going to the American Embassy in Warsaw and obtain an interview there, they could have fast tracked it then, but yeah it stinks.

Stuff like this really makes you question the perception of "freedom", but don't listen to idiots implying its to do with where you're from. They just do things like this, and it's also happened to other players from other countries.

Edited by Jamerio at 06:15 CDT, 22 August 2008

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becks - Reply to #156

aren't you the one who wants to have stricter immigration laws for the UK?

Edited by becks at 06:25 CDT, 22 August 2008

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Jamerio : - Reply to #160

Immigration is fine for skilled people.
It's not fine for the majority of people who come here.

Its already too late for the UK anyway. Damage has been done and will continue.

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becks - Reply to #167

ah, yes but have you ever taken the time to check those qualifications? or do you just work with the unemployed = must be unskilled approach?

Cause funny interestingly enough many have studied and so on.

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timmah - Reply to #170

I think he meant it in the sense that if you are qualified, you have a chance. If you are not, you will land on the street or find yourself in a just as poor situation as before...

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becks - Reply to #171

no, he meant that only skilled people should let in at all, completely ignoring that there are indeed qualified who are unemployed.

You know, people who even have uni degrees with it is usually easier to get a new job if you are fired in the first one...

<< Comment #173 @ 07:18 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #172

The way he puts it is ambiguous...

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becks - Reply to #173

not when you read his prior rants...

in a related matter, certain people from iceland should make sure to make degrees mandatory for flights to their island

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timmah - Reply to #174

Well, I haven't read any of his other rants, but from the wording alone:

It's not fine FOR the majority of people who come here.

the interpretation could well go the way I put it...

but whatever. I would also want stricter immigration laws.

Edited by timmah at 07:28 CDT, 22 August 2008

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Jamerio : - Reply to #172

Dude, we all know you're trolling me on ESR. you only need to check your post count to see your disgruntled about something which was probably true.

What I actually said was...

"It's not fine for the majority of people who come here."

And you processed it, and added a bit of elevation to lauch your negative opinion of me as..

"no, he meant that only skilled people should let in at all, completely ignoring that there are indeed qualified who are unemployed."

I really don't think a German, who's family tried to invade my country and was responsible for the death of some of my ancestors in a bid to launch their Eugenist (look it up) views on the rest of Europe is in a postion to mis-represent a british person on immigration.

Please go away, or if you're going to attack, me at least come at me with something solid or you'll just keep coming off as second best as you have done here and get more and worked.

lat but not least most British people are against mainstream immigration, its a fact :). Sorry.

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becks - Reply to #190

interesting deduction, but I can assure you I'm not disgruntled, just bored at work or while studying ;)
also I see this as a way to keep my English in shape.

and seeing you normal reception on this site, it seems I'm not the only one who often disagree with you.

I actually don't think my family was busy invading England cause my grand grand father died in Russia and my mother's side was busy fleeing from what is now Poland.
then again, I do come from lower-saxony ;) maybe not the invasion you had in mind but so what.

honestly, I find it quite surprising how easily you make a step from accusing my family and by extension me of being Eugenist to accusing me of being to liberal with immigrants from foreign countries.
What's next, am I also a communist with too many capitalistic influences? :P

But, really in the end I just find it very very deserved that you of all people actually had to struggle with immigration laws :D
What would be even more hilarious is if Wales were to become completely independent and the English officials would send you back there :P

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Dird - Reply to #172

from what i read hes not mentioning being employed at the time of trying to gain entrance. if you have a useful skill or qualification that is required in the country then you get sent to the front of the queue kind of thing.

if we're in need of doctors, then doctors get prioritised. if we're short of electricians/plumbers then they get prioritised. if the person has no skills and just works in a factory shifting objects or pushing a button on the process line or serves as a waiter then we don't need that person as people can easily carry out those jobs already.

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ini - Reply to #191

Except those are the jobs most people on benefits/unemployed (British people) refuse to take, they would rather stay unemployed and living off of benefits.

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Jubei - Reply to #160

Well hes right but as we actually have no say in the UK regarding immigration as i believe thats all controlled by EU or sommit now? it hardly matters.

There is a diff between granting a visa for someone to attend an event/convention in a country, and the UK where you can just get given a house/benefits/car/mobile phone whilst there are actually UK born people filling the shop doorways at night.

Should just host all of these big events in the UK, we dont turn anyone away tbh.

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[mash] - Reply to #156

maybe they did some research about you and came to the conclusion that they don't need any more assholes.

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Jamerio : - Reply to #163

I doubt it given I was reserved for the o-1 visa which is only reserved for people with extraordinary ability.
I guess I was not extraordinary enough!

Trust me buddy, I done enough to make me immune from jealous put downs from losers on th net. Especialyl on a game forum/

I see past your little ip's and know deep down you're in a bad place and the only way to make yourself feel better is to knock others at every opportunity.

I wish i could say things will get better for you, but they probably won't :)

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[mash] - Reply to #179

do you have a template saved for that?
no need to defend yourself. i just said that you're an asshole, not a dumb asshole. no personal attack right there.

well, i could say that you're dumb, because you're a racist but then again that's not the topic.

P.S.: Why be so insecure about yourself, mate? Not having a uni-degree doesn't make you a bad person at all. :'(

Edited by Magnus Magnusson at 07:49 CDT, 22 August 2008

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becks - Reply to #180

he's cute, isn't he? :)

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[mash] - Reply to #181

he's the best. i don't have much experience in forums at all, but he's the most amusing (cunt) guy i've ever come across.

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Jamerio : - Reply to #183

Was that a reply to convince me or others?

You have 3000+ posts on esr and you don't think you're have much expereience in forums?
Come on you're just trying to distance yourself from the site and come across as a casual user in the hope your opinion carries more mainstream clout.

I'm gonna give you a 9/10 for that because you called me "amusing" and "The best" and you know I did like that casual user thing you had going there gave you more credibility to the mis-informed. Plus you still got the opsHON! of denial.

its brilliant!

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[mash] - Reply to #205

well, i meant on forums in general. this is the first one i'm actually "contributing" myself.
so, no. i'm not trying to pretend that i'm the casual user. i am just a nerd like you.

Edited by Magnus Magnusson at 09:41 CDT, 22 August 2008

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Something - Reply to #209

This is so funny!

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ini - Reply to #205

Well, you are Welsh...

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perez™ - Reply to #205

This time I agree with you. It's enough to see Whitechapel, Lewisham and some Metro headlines in the DLR to draw some conclusions xD

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ini - Reply to #265

What do Whitechapel and Lewisham (/metro) got to do with anything?

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perez™ - Reply to #272

have you been there?

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ini - Reply to #287

Yes, check what you replied to though.

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perez™ - Reply to #313

xD

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Venim - Reply to #163

winner

<< Comment #162 @ 06:23 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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alien*

Freedom? That's just a word.
You are free to choose.. if you wanna live in a democratic or whatever society with strict rules. If not you can allways pack your bags and become an hermit or create a community outside the typical society. But wherever you live.. as all human beings you live by the rules.. or the ones that the society implies to you, the ones from your neighbourn or your owns.

Some of us simply live in an illusion or don't seem worthy of the hability of being mentally capables.

Anyway.. if they are reporting that he won't go .. sadly it means that they have tried everything they could to get his VISA.

But has i said .. av3k.. get two packs of beer some cigs.. and enjoy the games!

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lolograde ' - Reply to #162

The world will never be entirely free from rules. This was implied by John Locke's "Social Contract".

If you're looking for absolute freedom from all rules, maybe you'd like Noam Chomsky.

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a1r-r41d - Reply to #162

haha and your country doesnt even exist in the reality

2%

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xou - Reply to #203

It exists in the american dream!

<< Comment #164 @ 06:30 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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amOKchen

he was only top6 in my book anyway D:

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wata - Reply to #164

but he was the 2008 defending champion, kind of sucks for eswc to not have him there just because of visa bs

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Grumx

|LOLipop

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rupertt

that really blows :(

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Anima

fucking idiots americans

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #187

aw, c'mon!...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

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Anima - Reply to #250

THAT CAN T BE REAL

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Anonymous (ip-77-223-228-31.atol.com.pl) - Reply to #251

Since Star Wars is based on true story

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evan

Why does everyone always use this as an excuse to whine about hosting competitions in the US, or the Americans themselves? I mean, every country has VISA issues, some countries are stricter than others so you've to take that into account by preparing further in advance.

There are two Polish Counter Strike teams and another Polish Quake player attending, so I'm quite surprised that literally no one is 'blaming' av3k to be honest.

Edited by evan at 08:21 CDT, 22 August 2008

7%

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Dird - Reply to #192

Please. NL/DE/FR - you think they'd be as difficult for everyone to travel to? Wait till you see Prague compared to the US =/

If this was SK I'd give you a (N) so your comment couldn't be seen :D

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[mash] - Reply to #195

av3k wouldn't be allowed to play Quake3 in DE. :D

Edited by Magnus Magnusson at 08:51 CDT, 22 August 2008

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ashr - Reply to #195

nah Visa stuff is generally pretty retarded. ESWC 2006 in France... our CS team couldn't play because 4 out of 5 guys were refused a visa to travel. it couldn't have been because of lack of travel history because the one guy who did get it hadn't gone anywhere earlier either. they all applied at the same time too. the one guy had a nice Parisian holiday at ESWC's expenses.

they didn't give them a reason either.

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Dird - Reply to #264

ok remove FR from the statement. the fact is europe is a better position overall (americans dont seem to struggle for sponsors and makes it more likely to get eastern europe players to be able to afford it) and there'll be places easier for players to get accepted into

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ashr - Reply to #267

that is true.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #192

Thank you and God bless you.

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illogic - Reply to #192

NOT every country has visa issues...just the US...in Europe you can travel everywhere you want without any fucking visa...

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timmah - Reply to #200

Yeah, as long as you are from the "EU" and travel to the "EU"

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shlaeNg - Reply to #204

US and EU*

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lolograde ' - Reply to #200

What about Cypher trying to go to Spain for GameGune???... I suppose that was because of US, somehow... =\

The simply issue here is that Av3k waited wayyyy too long to apply for Visa. Matr0x got Visa to US, so obviously it's got nothing to do with Poland and US relations.

Edited by lolograde at 09:54 CDT, 22 August 2008

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becks - Reply to #210

and you know that for a fact?

because the mentioned "several" attempts andit's not like serious gaming didn't get him a visa before.

My guess is actually that the denied it exactly because he was there before and propably can't name any American relatives either. just speculation tho.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #217

I honestly don't know how it works, but if another Polish player got a Visa, it makes me think that it has nothing to do with US or Poland. It has something to do either with the Av3k or when he applied.

I doubt Matr0x has any relatives in San Jose. Why Av3k can't get a Visa to just travel into the US is beyond me.

You could say, "several attempts" if he applied last week, and got declined (probably cause it was too short notice) and then applied again two days ago and the Embassy or whatever says, "It's wayyy too late to get a Visa at this point." My guess is that's what happened...

If Av3k or Serious-Gaming said that he had applied 3 months ago and it didn't work out, and made six attempts after that, I wouldn't have anything to say on the topic other than, "wtf". But because they say, ambiguously, "several attempts", who knows and therefore I point out Matr0x as having gotten a Visa so who really knows for sure?

Edited by lolograde at 10:23 CDT, 22 August 2008

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becks - Reply to #219

matr0x hasn't been to the US for gaming events before. So that also works with my theory.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #224

I suppose you're right. Either way it sucks Av3k can't attend.

But at least ESR gets some drama and controversy since Walter has gotten bored with it. xD

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becks - Reply to #234

agreed

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evan - Reply to #217

Well you can make an educated by the way the Serious Gaming manager replied, I think his reply suggests av3k was partly to blame. My guess is he left it too late.

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becks - Reply to #220

I thought that statement was as vague as it gets

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evan - Reply to #221

Well he doesn't want to publicly blame his player, does he? ;)

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Cloud - Reply to #210

are you fuckin fat?

<< Comment #339 @ 14:23 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #338

ahaha, what? xD

I'm 1.8 meters tall and 78kgs or so... So not really?

<< Comment #340 @ 20:16 CDT, 27 August 2008 >>

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Cloud - Reply to #339

what exactly makes you so sure that av3k waited "wayyyy too long" to apply for a visa fatso?

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lolograde ' - Reply to #340

Ahaha, I was never "so sure". I was merely speculating since Matr0x got a Visa no problem. I was just adding perspective to the conversation! xD

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evan - Reply to #200

That's simply not true. The Schengen Agreement does allow some 'unrestricted travel', but there are a number of countries who only use part of the agreement. I know the UK and Ireland are two countries and you've a lot of Eastern and even central European countries who're neither part of the treaty or EU.

The irony is, if we held competitions in Europe, like people are suggesting; Russians, other Europeans and anyone Asian would still need to obtain a visa...

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fragmaster_ - Reply to #192

got both my US visas without any problems at all. but i guess that depends from what country you're from. unfortunately.

Edited by fragmaster_ at 16:57 CDT, 22 August 2008

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stunt.us - Reply to #192

because everyone is on the bandwagon of hating usa?

<< Comment #194 @ 08:21 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

fuck this is shit news!

<< Comment #196 @ 08:31 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun :

if the guy with the visa would have understand that av3k wanna remain illegally in usa it would have been visa all the way

<< Comment #208 @ 09:32 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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shlaeNg - Reply to #196

Cheap gaming labor eh.

<< Comment #214 @ 09:46 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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xou

Carmac should give him his VISA : pppp

<< Comment #215 @ 09:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Jamerio : - Reply to #214

Carmac's the reason why they won't give him a visa :)

<< Comment #218 @ 10:20 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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AHXNXA

Or as Av3k said himself: "Life is brutal sometimes."

when u dont get to paly video games in another country its very brutall.... THINK ABOUT THE CHILDNRE IN AFRICA and THE WOMEN IN SAUDIARAABIA

<< Comment #225 @ 10:37 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #218

What about women in Africa and children in Saudi Arabia ?

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AHXNXA - Reply to #225

theyre doing fine

<< Comment #231 @ 11:01 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #218

Or the poor Finnish gypsies using their children to pan for money. =((((

<< Comment #237 @ 11:05 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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Khorney - Reply to #218

Yeah, I guess the women in Saudi arabia would feel better if Av3k would get his Visa renewed.

<< Comment #222 @ 10:32 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8

The two things this thread is lacking:

[1] Kurwa
[2] RAGE

<< Comment #230 @ 11:00 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #222

I hate you alright

<< Comment #232 @ 11:01 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #230

Needs more effort. :(

<< Comment #235 @ 11:04 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #232

kurwa pizdek faggot-spaz-nazi-child abuser u wanna be
or
God bless america :P

<< Comment #236 @ 11:05 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #235

Plussed for effort \o/

<< Comment #240 @ 11:10 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #236

rasist!

<< Comment #241 @ 11:15 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #240

smickrare!

<< Comment #245 @ 11:39 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #241

assentator!

<< Comment #247 @ 11:49 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #245

komplimenterare!

<< Comment #249 @ 12:00 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #247

detractore!

<< Comment #259 @ 13:47 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #249

underestimator!

<< Comment #242 @ 11:20 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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tath

Epic Fail.

Who cares about Matrox ? Av3k had real chance for stand in top3 :|.

<< Comment #244 @ 11:23 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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timmah - Reply to #242

I care about matr0x cos he's actually gonna be there.

<< Comment #256 @ 13:38 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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rzelky

nic sie nie stalo .. wazne ze ameryka jest bezpieczna :/

Edited by rzelky at 13:39 CDT, 22 August 2008

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H1ghTecM@N^

Next time keep it in FRANCE :D !

ul young boy

<< Comment #275 @ 16:51 CDT, 22 August 2008 >>

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amanappl

Why does everybody assume that it's not avek's fault that he doesn't have a visa? Especially because the post mentions "several attempts"... to me it sounds like he submitted several visa applications with different reasons why he wants to go there which obviously looks like someone trying to sneak into the country.

Although its kinda weird that Poland isn't included in the visa waiver program seeing how their government has been kissing America's ass for many years... maybe they should ask Slovenia how they got included 8=]

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Slajer - Reply to #275

You really don't want to know what we did to get that :/