ESR - player looks like he had a stick in..

<< Comment #1 @ 12:58 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Troll

Need codec, won't work in VLC, WMP, DIVX

<< Comment #2 @ 13:01 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #1

its x264, so vlc should be fine O_o
try to get a newer version

<< Comment #3 @ 13:02 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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noctis +++|

how about a front view when strafing left and right ?:)

<< Comment #7 @ 13:05 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #3

gimme a minute, ill create one

<< Comment #10 @ 13:22 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #3

done

<< Comment #20 @ 14:40 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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noctis +++| - Reply to #10

looks damn good actually

<< Comment #4 @ 13:03 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^ :

supermaaaaaaan for the rescue! ... looks quite funny :-)

<< Comment #5 @ 13:03 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Putka

What do you gain with this ?

<< Comment #6 @ 13:05 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #5

looks better in movies :P

<< Comment #12 @ 13:40 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Nukm ++++: - Reply to #6

not only in movies, it looks better ingame, too?
but well, the hitboxes wouldnt realy fit with the new "models" would they?

<< Comment #60 @ 04:18 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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Vayne - Reply to #6

No movies should be made in 3rd person view god I hate them so much, thats why they probably dont get alot of downloads either.

<< Comment #61 @ 04:34 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #60

You have to see the model of the opponent?

<< Comment #101 @ 19:22 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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Bluder ' - Reply to #60

You have to see the model of the opponent?

<< Comment #102 @ 20:35 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #60

You have to see the model of the opponent?

<< Comment #8 @ 13:08 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Curious

Legs become what i think too straight?
Wouldn't it be better if they sort of waved?

<< Comment #9 @ 13:20 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #8

already said, it needs better animation ;-)

<< Comment #46 @ 19:45 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #9

Yeah. Seems like the legs go into the rest position before you hit the ground, which is kind of silly, since you're still in the air.

<< Comment #49 @ 23:55 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #46

although that was in q3 exactly the same, it just looked better, as the models looked better.

<< Comment #55 @ 00:58 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #49

Did you take out the land animation? Cuz' in the first one, every time you're about to land the animation is already in its idle state.

<< Comment #56 @ 01:34 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #55

was a bug, is fixed already

<< Comment #71 @ 21:07 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #56

Oh, so you fixed it and uploaded a different version or something? : [

<< Comment #74 @ 21:28 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #71

maybe the 1.3 version doesnt have it yet, the 1.4b should have it fixed.

<< Comment #57 @ 02:40 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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zeicon - Reply to #9

you don't have to be a modeler to animate well though

<< Comment #11 @ 13:27 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Cuffahid

<3

<< Comment #13 @ 13:48 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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xgo :

nice :)
now put everything else that makes q3 better :))

<< Comment #14 @ 13:50 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Sujoy +

The body should lean at a similar angle, then it would be perfect.

<< Comment #15 @ 13:52 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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fuzz +'

add to 1.4 patch 4sho

<< Comment #16 @ 13:54 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Xsi +'

very nice, id should take a look at this :)

<< Comment #17 @ 14:10 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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jonte

hardcore gamers would prefer no player movement at all, whats the point when the hitmodel doesnt change when you move anyway. a hardcore gamer would infact just prefer to see the hitmodel as it really is and in some fluoroscent color!

<< Comment #19 @ 14:21 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Nukm ++++: - Reply to #17

well, you could just make it client side so ppl could chose between look and effectiveness

<< Comment #21 @ 14:42 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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noctis +++| - Reply to #17

you can predict the opponnents movement a bit better that way. (imho of course)

<< Comment #23 @ 15:20 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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jonte - Reply to #21

true, but fuk dat m8 5-10ms to server+big hitscan gun, BZZZZZZZ

<< Comment #31 @ 17:39 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #21

cg_showplayerlean "0" for the fucking win mate.

<< Comment #34 @ 17:44 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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noctis +++| - Reply to #31

sif a tank can lean anyway :P

<< Comment #35 @ 17:46 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #34

True dat. TANKJR FOR LIFE.

<< Comment #18 @ 14:10 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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g0th

ohh very nice bandit

<< Comment #22 @ 14:54 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit

added a playable version

<< Comment #24 @ 15:38 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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MUNG>esh

cg_showplayerlean should be implemented in q4 but til then i like what you've done here, as superficial as it may be. the q4 playermodel just doesnt fool me enough to think that it belongs in this 3 dimensional space like in q3. oddly enough, this is one of the first things i noticed in mp when q4 came out. really bugged me.

<< Comment #25 @ 15:51 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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dokk

Really nice !

<< Comment #26 @ 16:14 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio ++++

Probably like this for a technical reason.
q4 is already laggy enough. If this adds to network traffic or gives a performance hit then it's bad. If it does not then I'm all for it.

Edited by Jamerio at 16:16 GMT, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #29 @ 16:58 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #26

it is totally clientside, so no traffic changes at all, and it does not take much more time to calculate than the original q4 code.. so you don't have to worry.

<< Comment #39 @ 18:34 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio ++++ - Reply to #29

Cool. Go then go for it :)

<< Comment #27 @ 16:29 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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mefajpE^ :

looks really nice now ;)

<< Comment #28 @ 16:45 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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naymlis

looks great but i agree with jamerio

<< Comment #30 @ 17:33 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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fur*q + - Reply to #28

I don't like Jamerio, so i will agree with you instead.

Edited by fur*q at 17:34 GMT, 10 February 2007

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<< Comment #33 @ 17:42 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #30

Sneaky

<< Comment #42 @ 18:38 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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Jamerio ++++ - Reply to #33

See what I'm up against :)

<< Comment #43 @ 18:39 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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fur*q + - Reply to #42

Only got your self to blame.

<< Comment #32 @ 17:42 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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ini

This would look really nice if the torso/head/arms tilted in the same way. Then add cg_showplayerlean "0/1" and it can be used for movies/streams. I expect most players would use "0" in Q4 seeing as the model stays in the hitbox quite nicely anyway (And now that they're smaller it's even more important)

<< Comment #36 @ 17:59 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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ashr

now if only something could be done about that stiff upper body. great work though.

<< Comment #37 @ 18:17 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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xyGvot

when a player moves back and forth constantly (like when peeping around a corner) it drives me nuts, sounds like he had 8 fucking legs, i know it's all related to new player accel introduced in 1.3, but it's dumb.

<< Comment #40 @ 18:36 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #37

it has nothing to do with 1.3.. it was like that back in first release

<< Comment #44 @ 18:42 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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xyGvot - Reply to #40

i don't recall that back in previous patches but i find it annoying anyway.

Edited by xyGvot at 19:28 GMT, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #48 @ 22:32 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #44

Walk animation seems to restart or reverse whenever you change directions, instead of just looping and twisting like in Q3., seems like that's why the "back and forth" movement sounds like river dancing in it's most annoying incarnation.

Also, there's no interpolation between the model twisting every which way. Add that, a better jump animation, fix the left - right - left animation/sound and the lean will be gold.

Edited by Ganemi at 22:35 GMT, 10 February 2007

<< Comment #38 @ 18:22 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

I've been buggin everyone since 1.0 to put a lean into Quake 4. I mean, I'm more of a sucker for Quake's gameplay, than anything else, but to me, 3's movement and gameplay just seems like so much of a beautiful art form, just because of the lean, and that's part of what made me so addicted to the series. Sounds silly, but yeah, it's true.

Awesome, man. : P

<< Comment #41 @ 18:36 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #38

i thought it was gibs

<< Comment #45 @ 18:54 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #41

It's not just gibs. It's everything that could possibly make a game look and feel more engaging as a shooter. It's for people who can admire a game with a good aesthetic feel, rather than a game that ONLY has competition. It's hard to describe, but I think it's just so much easier to get pulled into a game on another level if it has very good animations, special effects, lighting and all that good stuff.

Could you imagine actually fighting someone in reality with Quake 3's movement and weapons? How freaking beautiful would that be?

<< Comment #70 @ 20:25 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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wocK_ ' - Reply to #45

you addict!

<< Comment #73 @ 21:17 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #70

Tell me you wouldn't think a perfectly accurate live action Quake movie in theaters that wasn't cheesy wouldn't be incredibly awesome.

<< Comment #76 @ 21:43 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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wocK_ ' - Reply to #73

how would they explain people getting fragged and spawning?

tell me how!!??

it can't be with a story apart from the arena gods do it to watch for fun

lel i <3 quake

<< Comment #78 @ 21:55 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #76

Oh, you could totally do it.

Make it a Rocket Arenaish story about people who participate in tournaments who strive to test the truest ability of their skills in 1 versus 1 competitions.

All weapons, 1000 health, 1000 armor, the match doesn't end until one team dies.

Or they could do it the default way with the gods or whatever. : P

<< Comment #47 @ 21:05 GMT, 10 February 2007 >>

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killat0n

OMG I'M SPRAYING CUM EVERYWHERE!!!!1111

nice work bandit, you are really helping to close the gap ;)

<< Comment #50 @ 00:23 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit

made torso lean a bit too, and added q3style footsteps

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<< Comment #67 @ 16:18 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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ashr - Reply to #50

avi? :)

<< Comment #69 @ 17:22 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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HamidoOs - Reply to #50

OMG if you fix Q4's footsteps you will have truly saved a soul! (mine)

<< Comment #51 @ 00:36 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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Jagou

Impressive. Needs work still, like was said, but very nice.

<< Comment #52 @ 00:43 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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vamp1re

doesn't really change the fact that the model sucks in the first place.

<< Comment #53 @ 00:50 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #52

agreed but its better than nothing ;-)

<< Comment #54 @ 00:56 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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ini - Reply to #53

Keep on it!

<< Comment #58 @ 03:15 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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vedic

actually, nm

If the knees bent a bit, it'd probably look fine.

Edited by Vedic at 03:17 GMT, 11 February 2007

<< Comment #59 @ 04:09 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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advent™

Less forward and backwards movement imo -- with the cylindrical hitboxes, I don't think it'd be a good idea to have the player look like he's doing a nosedive.

<< Comment #62 @ 06:50 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #59

I would agree, but most of the time we're not jumping around near the speed of the rail jumppad on Dm17.

And besides, there should definitely be an option to turn it on or off if it gets implemented. : ] cg_showlean 1/0

<< Comment #63 @ 11:33 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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shqdow

the skin in the first vid looks like superman lol
sry but i think those animations don't fit pretty good

<< Comment #64 @ 13:06 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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c1 +++:

those animation fits a lot better to trickjumps like a 4-5 rj

<< Comment #65 @ 13:20 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit

added cvar: g_playerLean 0-1 (floating number) so you can change how much the speed affects the playerlean. set to 0 to turn it off and use default q4 behavior.

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<< Comment #66 @ 15:22 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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nemecel

Conclusion: Play Q3. Already done, better, and with more than 20 different models.

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<< Comment #86 @ 12:48 GMT, 14 February 2007 >>

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Nukm ++++: - Reply to #66

cu... and close the door from the outside, ty

<< Comment #87 @ 14:55 GMT, 14 February 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #86

Truth hurts.

<< Comment #88 @ 15:19 GMT, 14 February 2007 >>

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Nukm ++++: - Reply to #87

nah, its not about thruth
i dont care if u enjoy the q3 (and its models more) but if u do, go play q3 and dont annoy ppl who like something else

<< Comment #89 @ 17:48 GMT, 14 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #88

oh snap, son u he told u!!

<< Comment #95 @ 21:28 BST, 4 June 2007 >>

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Anonymous (ip565bfb8d.direct-adsl.nl) - Reply to #87

Q3 isn't a better game, it was made the better game.

The way i see it Q4 has more potential, still work to do tho.

- Terifire

<< Comment #97 @ 06:43 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #95

D3 engine fails to deliber mp wise, to begin with. Q3 engine makes the game itself better than Q4.
End of motherfucking pointless obvious discussion already.

Edited by meltvord at 06:43 BST, 5 June 2007

<< Comment #99 @ 17:01 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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Anonymous (ip565bfb8d.direct-adsl.nl) - Reply to #97

Learn to read:

"Q3 isn't a better game, it was made the better game.

The way i see it Q4 has more potential, still work to do tho.

- Terifire "

I AM saying that Q3 is better in it's current state, but that didn't happen without some extra patches/mods, it took its time.

I mean Q4 has more potential to become a better game then it is now in it's current state, it's true that the D3 engine limits the possibilities, but it could also lead to totally new features.

- Terifire

<< Comment #100 @ 18:07 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #99

It could, but never to surpass Q3's quality. Which makes the whole "lets switch to Q4" thing pointless, but well, money happens.

Edited by meltvord at 18:24 BST, 5 June 2007

<< Comment #68 @ 17:00 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit

added 1.4b compatible version

<< Comment #72 @ 21:15 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #68

: P Sweet. It works pretty well.

Edit: Still looks slightly awkward because of the idle animation thing.

That doesn't happen when I turn the lean off. Were you saying before that that's a side effect? I must've misunderstood.

<< Comment #75 @ 21:30 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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TTK-Bandit - Reply to #72

you're talking about the idle animation, which is played during falling, right ?
that was done on purpose, it just needs a better looking animation, but the player should keep the legs straight after jumping, like it was in q3.

<< Comment #77 @ 21:51 GMT, 11 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #75

Ohhhh, I see now. : P

Now all we need are solid directional gibs. >; P

Edited by Ganemi at 21:52 GMT, 11 February 2007

<< Comment #81 @ 20:06 GMT, 12 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #77

what are directional gibs exactly? :\

<< Comment #82 @ 08:35 GMT, 13 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #81

"Directional Gibs: This is cool. In regular Quake, when you hit someone with the rocket launcher or some other powerful weapon and gib them, they sort of just pop; they explode and spray gibs straight up. The same thing holds true if you hit the wall next to them and the area damage gibs them (especially with Quad). With this patch, the gibs will take on the correct (or at least More Correct) velocities based on who killed you. If you are hit head on with a rocket, your gibs will blow backwards. If someone splatters you by shooting the wall next to you with a Quad Rocket, you will spray away from the wall. It REALLY makes gibbing people a lot more fun. I am also told that this sort of thing is going to be in Quake II, which is good."

didn't feel like explaining it even though its a ridiculously simple concept okay

<< Comment #83 @ 15:43 GMT, 13 February 2007 >>

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naymlis - Reply to #82

thats what i figured, thx

<< Comment #79 @ 06:54 GMT, 12 February 2007 >>

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c1 +++:

add a backlfip animation and it would be perfect for trickjump movies ;D

Edited by crazyone at 07:32 GMT, 12 February 2007

<< Comment #80 @ 19:51 GMT, 12 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #79

I always thought backflip animations were just plain silly.

Grunt's is an exception, though, since the grunt model is plain awesome.

<< Comment #85 @ 21:41 GMT, 13 February 2007 >>

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xchaser - Reply to #80

yea the grunt and ranger are by far the best models and the q2 female skin. http://ra2io.planetquake.gamespy.com/images/ra2bluefem.jpg

<< Comment #84 @ 16:11 GMT, 13 February 2007 >>

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manic

Looks really good :)

<< Comment #90 @ 22:46 GMT, 15 February 2007 >>

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babyBeelz

I think Bandit should give the code to Sync so it can be implemented in the final version of 1.4 : P

I'm sure we'd all appreciate that.

<< Comment #91 @ 16:28 BST, 3 June 2007 >>

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nemecel

Resurrecting this thread because this needs to be added in the official next 1.4.2 patch.

<< Comment #93 @ 20:48 BST, 3 June 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #91

Seriously. Playing Quake 2 without a lean is fine(though at times it seems like there is in that game), but it's super annoying in Quake 4. Makes the game a lot less entertaining to watch, believe it or not.

<< Comment #105 @ 23:50 BST, 8 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #93

Yeah, I believe it. They look stupid, specially when dodging.

<< Comment #107 @ 03:23 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #105

It's weird, you know? For q2 it was fine, because even when you fired your weapon the run animation stopped, but that was fixed in Q3, and beyond that, something more was added, the lean. Even in Q3 you only had the head, torso and legs to mess with, but now you could potentially control all the bones and parts of a model's body based on the player's movement.

It's interesting when you consider how many people I've encountered that either don't know what "bunny hopping" is, or think it's just ridiculous, because it's never been introduced in an organized fashion. It's surprising that it takes people a while to realize this, but the general feel of a game aside from the mechanics do impact how it's receipted.

%_% poopie! ^_^

<< Comment #92 @ 19:09 BST, 3 June 2007 >>

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xchaser

yea well its been quite in the q4 front. so lets keep playing 1.4.1 and hope for the best. I think we won't be disapointed.

<< Comment #94 @ 20:53 BST, 3 June 2007 >>

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naymlis

lean ftw!

<< Comment #96 @ 22:02 BST, 4 June 2007 >>

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det5

Another bump for great justice. This needs to be in 1.4 final.

<< Comment #98 @ 07:03 BST, 5 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #96

This, CPMA netcode and getting rid of the nonsensical FPS drops even on lowest settings, and the game will be decent.

<< Comment #103 @ 22:17 BST, 8 June 2007 >>

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zuphrin |

looks very nice! Just the legs are too "stretched" imho.

<< Comment #104 @ 22:59 BST, 8 June 2007 >>

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bonBon

NICE MAN.

NOW ADD THE BACKFLIP ANIMATION :D

<< Comment #106 @ 03:11 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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Adelbert

Why I never see Sync posts when talking about shity parts of Q4, like model animations?

<< Comment #108 @ 04:12 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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SyncError ' - Reply to #106

If I had to guess, probably because he's trying to help get things fixed and then can't discuss those things that are under development.

<< Comment #109 @ 06:50 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #108

What things? Like your FACE?!

(Really, I just wish I understood what you just said better)

<< Comment #110 @ 11:59 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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HeavyD - Reply to #109

Basically what he said was "We are doing things but due to legal reasons I can not tell you what we are doing".

<< Comment #113 @ 00:03 BST, 10 June 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #110

Oh, alright. Makes a lot of sense.

<< Comment #111 @ 14:13 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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Adelbert - Reply to #108

Owned :P

Glad to know that you guys are working on those animations... "hell, it's about time!"

<< Comment #114 @ 00:04 BST, 10 June 2007 >>

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babyBeelz - Reply to #111

Hope so. Quake 3 animations were super happy awesome.

<< Comment #112 @ 16:29 BST, 9 June 2007 >>

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nemecel - Reply to #108

CPMA netcode first? Yes.

<< Comment #115 @ 17:32 BST, 10 June 2007 >>

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Paracet - Reply to #108

Take your time =)